Which region is better in baseball? The 14th, 15th, or 16th?

[moofer]

Which region do you think is better? I am def gonna have to say the 15th. And I think the 57th district is the best in that region.

[corndog23]

I think the 57th district will be one of the more competitive districts in the state this year.


15th is the best of the 3.

[ShortStop]

15th region by far  :party:

[TheBlackHole]

15th!  57th district has the best competition IMO

[2000PHS]

Boyd Co, Ashland, and Rusell vs. Paintsville, Pikeville, and JC =  toss up

[#_4]

15th

[no~one~cares]

15th no doubt

[Statmaster]

16th can hold its own against the 15th. Let them play with neutral umpires and let talent decide. Boyd,East,,Russell,Raceland,Ashland, Fairview......I say the 16th would be better.  :party: :1:

[baseball_dad]

16th by far. Followed by the 15th and the 14th.

[corndog23]

16th by far. Followed by the 15th and the 14th.


Ill put Pikeville, JC, Paintsville, SCHS, and Allen Central, against your top 5 ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!Â* I would win 4 out of 5 90% of the time.

[Statmaster]

I doubt that.  :argue:    Especially if on neutral fields with neutral umpires.  :thx:

[corndog23]

Can you give me a reason why???? 



.......didnt think so.

[leslie eagle fan]

14th is IMO the best wait thats not an opinion thats a fact

[chicken wing]

15th IMO

[mtnfootball7]

what is the fact that the 14th is the best? honestly...?

[corndog23]

14th is IMO the best wait thats not an opinion thats a fact


You say that, yet there is another thread in this forum that says why the 14th is so bad this year!  :rolleyes:

[Statmaster]

Can you give me a reason why????Â*



.......didnt think so.


PITCHING    :1:

[corndog23]

Any stats to prove it to me?? 





......didnt think so.

[airball3]

I would have to go with the 16th Region.

Boyd County, Ashland, Russell, Fairview, East Carter, Greenup County, Rowan County, West Carter, Raceland, Morgan County, Fleming County, Bath County, Rose Hill, Elliott County, Lewis County, and Menifee County.

2005 Season:
Boyd County ended their season with a 33-8 record, and a state semi-final apperance.

Which Pikeville ended their season also with a 33-8 record, but they went 2 and out in the semi-state.

2004 Season:
Ashland ended their season with a 26-12 record, which they got knocked out in the 2nd round against Johnson Central 1-2.

Johnson Central ended their season with a 23-18 record, they knocked out Ashland in the 2nd round, and went on to loose in the semi-finals.


I'll post more later...

[airball3]

2003 Season:

Lawrence County ended their season with a 24-8 record, getting beat out in the second round to Apollo.

Allen Central ended their season with a 17-12 record as they got knocked out in the first round by Lawrence County.

2002 Season:

Boyd County finished their season with a 22-16 record as they got beat out 0-1 in the first round by Middlesboro.

Pikeville finished their season with a 26-8 record as they also got beat out 3-4 in the first round by Lee County.

2001 Season:

Boyd County finished thheir season with a 29-6-1 record and State Baseball Championship winning it all as they edged out Paintsville in the first round and Ballard in the finals.

Paintsville ended their season with a 27-9 record as they got blanketed in the first round by Boyd County 0-7.



This is only a few reasons why I think the 16th Region is strongest. Everyone has their opinions.

[gobles_girl40]

15th IMO....Go Cards!

[alfus21]

The 16th Region is the strongest of the three, and airball3 proved it...

[Pacman]

I think Boyd County has the best team out of the 3 regions; however, this season the 15th may have a few more quality teams than the 16th. Especially with Lawrence moving to 15th this season.

Boyd, East Carter, Ashland Blazer, Greenup are prolly tops in the 16th

Pikeville, JC, Paintsville, SC, Allen Central, Lawrence Co are all contenders for a region title and with the addition of Lawrence -- 15th has the edge this year.

Both are tough though and have tough programs at the top.

[StrikeoutKing]

What kind of inter-region match-ups are there going to be this year? I know AC plays a few teams from the 14th Region:

Breathitt County
Hazard
Knott County
Wolfe County
Leslie County
Letcher Central
Buckhorn

Which other 15th Region teams play teams from the 14th and 16th Regions. We could keep track and decide by the records which region is tougher.

[alfus21]

Shelby Valley plays Fairview from the 16th, and Jenkins and Letcher Central from the 14th...

[corndog23]

The 16th Region is the strongest of the three, and airball3 proved it...

airball3 stated for the top of the region. Top to bottom i dont think there is even a question about it being the 15th.

[airball3]

Now that I think of it from top to bottom, I'm gonna have to go with the 15th Region. As for the best teams in the area, most of them come from the 16th.

[2000PHS]

I think the 16th has the number 1 overall seed (Boyd Co.) but the 15th has many solid 2,3 and 4 seeds.

[The Guru]

I think the 16th has the number 1 overall seed (Boyd Co.) but the 15th has many solid 2,3 and 4 seeds.
I agree.

[MCHStennischic]

IMO 15th!!

[Matney's Prodigey]

Top to bottom I would have to lean towards the 15th, but I'm a homer any how.

[airball3]

Looks like East Carter beat Johnson Central, and Russell beat Lawrence County, so far this season. Should be a good matchup in between Paintsville and Boyd County.

[eaglesbaseballfan]

the 14th region is stronger than usual but I will still rank them behind the 15th and 16th.

[moofer]

I think the 16th has the best overall team but top to bottom I think 15th is the best.

[Homer Simpson]

15th

[BelfryJustice]

15th all the way!

[NationalFan]

15th By far

[StrikeoutKing]

Overall, this year, I think the 15th has best all around region. Boyd County is the best of all the teams in either region, but the 15th is the most competitive.

[schs_football]

15th

[PLAYBOY5]

14th is KILLING the 15th early on this year!

[baseball*sweetheart]

15th!

[schs_football]

15th

[alfus21]

Fairview from the 16th has beaten Shelby Valley, Prestonsburg, and Pike Central to go along with airball's last post of East Carter beating JC, and Russell beating Lawrence County...The 16th is stronger overall guys...

[StrikeoutKing]

So far this season, the 15th is getting pounded by the 14th and 16th Regions! I think they are all very equal in talent, but right now the 15th is a little behind at this point in the season.

[corndog23]

SC over Morgan today, 10-6. solid win for the 15th.

[bigcountry]

SC over Morgan today, 10-6. solid win for the 15th. Solid???

Not hardly. Morgan is usually one of the cellar dwellers in the 16th.

Overall the 16th is much better than the 15th. Some of you all are only dreaming.

[Battle Tested]

15th all the way

[alfus21]

Most people are so biased they can't say otherwise, but the 14th and 16th both may be better than the 15th this season at the top, and I think the 16th is better overall...

[corndog23]

Maybe i am a little biased, but daggone it yall aint gonna change what i think.

[airball3]

Looks like the 16th Region is also crushing the 15th Region this year. Besides the Sheldon Clark win over Morgan County, has any of the 15th region teams beat a 16th?

[Statmaster]

Looks like the 16th Region is also crushing the 15th Region this year. Besides the Sheldon Clark win over Morgan County, has any of the 15th region teams beat a 16th?

Raceland (16th) has beaten Lawrence and Paintsville on their home fields.:argue:

[corndog23]

Sheldon Clark beat Fairview...

[NYY10]

15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,

[alfus21]

15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,

16th, Boyd County, Raceland, East Carter, Fairview, Russell

[corndog23]

15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,

SC, AC....

[NYY10]

SC, AC....

Thats right,didnt mean to leave them out

[Sponge Bob]

I did a little research. The results are only as good as the records indicated on KHSAA.

Here are some key stats:

Win Loss Record
14th: 117-118 (46 losses by weakest 5 teams)
15th: 122-120 (32 losses by weakest 3 teams)
16th: 121-122 (48 losses by weakest 4 teams)

Regional Breakdown
14th v. 15th: 9-10
14th v. 16th: 6-5

15th v. 14th: 10-9
15th v. 16th: 11-13

16th v. 14th: 5-6
16th v. 15th: 13-11

Looks pretty even there. The overall win loss records are skewed with poor teams at the bottoms of each region. Here are the skewing teams:

14th Region:
Jenkins 0-10
Buckhorn 3-10
Jackson City 3-7
Breathitt Co. 3-7
Cordia 4-12

15th Region:
South Floyd 1-8
Shelby Valley 4-13
Prestonsburg 4-11

16th Region:
Rose Hill 1-11
Menifee Co. 1-13
Elliott Co. 2-10
Lewis Co. 1-14

The records against each region are good indicators, but we need to evaluate how many victories were against the poor teams listed above.

14th Region
44-11

15th Region
36-7

16th Region
40-8

Also, here is a breakdown of the top three teams (by victories) in each region versus the other regions:

14th Region
Leslie Co. 17-1 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Letcher Central 12-7 (Overall) 5-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-1 (vs. 16th ) 5-0 (vs. weak)
Perry Central 11-7 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)

15th Region
Pikeville 17-4 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 1-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)
Sheldon Clark 13-6 (Overall) 0-1 (vs. 15th ) 3-2 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Allen Central 11-4 (Overall) 2-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 4-0 (vs. weak)

16th Region
East Carter 17-2 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th )1-1 (vs. 16th ) 6-0 (vs. weak)
Russell 16-9 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 15th )1-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Fairview 15-5 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 15th )6-2 (vs. 16th ) 7-0 (vs. weak)

I'm not going to make any predictions on which region is stronger. You all look at the numbers and go from there. I'm not sure the numbers tell.

[alfus21]

That's amazing research, so nice job on that..It looks pretty even to me on there, but for some reason I still think the 16th is stronger....

[Sponge Bob]

I found a typo. The quote below is corrected:

I did a little research. The results are only as good as the records indicated on KHSAA.

Here are some key stats:

Win Loss Record
14th: 117-118 (46 losses by weakest 5 teams)
15th: 122-120 (32 losses by weakest 3 teams)
16th: 121-122 (48 losses by weakest 4 teams)
:devilflam
Regional Breakdown
14th v. 15th: 10-11
14th v. 16th: 6-5

15th v. 14th: 11-10
15th v. 16th: 11-13

16th v. 14th: 5-6
16th v. 15th: 13-11

Looks pretty even there. The overall win loss records are skewed with poor teams at the bottoms of each region. Here are the skewing teams:

14th Region:
Jenkins 0-10
Buckhorn 3-10
Jackson City 3-7
Breathitt Co. 3-7
Cordia 4-12

15th Region:
South Floyd 1-8
Shelby Valley 4-13
Prestonsburg 4-11

16th Region:
Rose Hill 1-11
Menifee Co. 1-13
Elliott Co. 2-10
Lewis Co. 1-14

The records against each region are good indicators, but we need to evaluate how many victories were against the poor teams listed above.

14th Region
44-11

15th Region
36-7

16th Region
40-8

Also, here is a breakdown of the top three teams (by victories) in each region versus the other regions:

14th Region
Leslie Co. 17-1 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Letcher Central 12-7 (Overall) 5-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-1 (vs. 16th ) 5-0 (vs. weak)
Perry Central 11-7 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)

15th Region
Pikeville 17-4 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 14th ) 1-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)
Sheldon Clark 13-6 (Overall) 0-1 (vs. 14th ) 3-2 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Allen Central 11-4 (Overall) 2-0 (vs. 14th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 4-0 (vs. weak)

16th Region
East Carter 17-2 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 14th ) 1-1 (vs. 15th ) 6-0 (vs. weak)
Russell 16-9 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 14th ) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Fairview 15-5 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 14th ) 6-3 (vs. 15th ) 7-0 (vs. weak)

I'm not going to make any predictions on which region is stronger. You all look at the numbers and go from there. I'm not sure the numbers tell.

Also, I think it would help to see the actual victories in the region v. region breakdown:

14th v. 15th (14th Region in italics)
Leslie Co. (17-1) def. Paintsville (10-7) 12-5
Leslie Co. def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 16-5
Allen Central (11-4) def. Leslie Co. (17-1) 5-3
Pike Co. Central (7-9) def. Letcher Co. Central (12-7) 8-6
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 4-3
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 13-0
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 6-1
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. East Ridge (8-12) 8-1
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Belfry (10-7) 20-5
Perry Co. Central (11-7) def. Pikeville (17-4) 5-3
Pikeville (17-4) def. Hazard (8-14) 4-1
Pikeville (17-4) def. Hazard (8-14) 6-4
Hazard (8-14) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 6-1
Allen Central (11-4) def. Wolfe Co. (6-6) 12-2
East Ridge (8-12) def. Cordia (4-12) 6-2
East Ridge (8-12) def. Cordia (4-12) 14-4
Betsy Layne (5-10) def. Cordia (4-12) 15-4
Phelps (8-4) def. Cordia (4-12) 15-5
Cordia (4-12) def. South Floyd (1-8) 10-4
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Cordia (4-12) 5-2
South Floyd (1-8) def. Jenkins (0-10) 13-3

14th v. 16th (14th in italics)
Boyd Co (8-4) def. Letcher Co. Central (12-7) 13-0
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Fleming Co. (8-8) 8-0
East Carter (17-2) def. Powell Co. (10-6) 10-2
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 16-0
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Bath Co. (10-3) 13-7
Greenup Co. (6-8) def. Hazard (8-14) 5-4
Wolfe Co. (6-6) def. Elliott Co. (2-10) 12-6
Morgan Co. (4-5) def. Wolfe Co. (6-6) 11-2
Jackson City (3-7) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 7-5
Jackson City (3-7) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 15-12
Elliott Co. (2-10) def. Jackson City (3-7) 20-10

16th v. 15th (16th in italics)
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 13-5
East Carter (17-2) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 6-4
Johnson Central (8-10) def. East Carter (17-2) 4-1
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Morgan Co. (4-5) 10-6
Prestonsburg (4-11) def. Morgan Co. (4-5) 13-12
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. West Carter (4-9) 3-1
Greenup Co. (6-8) def. Paintsville (10-7) 15-9
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Lewis Co. (1-13) 10-6
Raceland (10-7) def. Lawrence Co. (11-8) 10-7
Raceland (10-7) def. Paintsville (10-7) 7-0
Russell (16-9) def. Lawrence Co. (11-8) 8-7
Lawrence Co. (11-8) def. Ashland (9-7) 10-0
Fairview (15-5) def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 7-4
Fairview (15-5) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 6-3
Fairview (15-5) def. Prestonsburg (4-11) 12-3
Fairview (15-5) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 5-0
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Fairview (15-5) 14-3
Pikeville (17-4) def. Fairview (15-5) 4-2
Lawrence Co. (11-8) def. Fairview (15-5) 2-0
Fairview (15-5) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 3-1
Fairview (15-5) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 19-8
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Rose Hill (1-11) 15-1
Boyd Co. (8-4) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 10-0
Rowan Co. (9-7) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 9-3

[alfus21]

Man that's some awesome research..Thanks

[NYY10]

Great research to Spongebob..im impressed