Big Men in the 15th?

[OnCeABobcat]

Who do you think are the top 3 big men in the Region?

[Cameron Crazy]

Anthony Coleman will be dominate this year for East Ridge, not too sure about other 15th schools.

[NYY10]

John Johnson for Valley,if he decides to play this year

[NY152]

well I dont know if he's top 3 but Pikeville will have the adams kid again this year and he is big..!

[gish_7]

Josh Martin-Ac
Trai Whitt-BL

[Cameron Crazy]

John Johnson for Valley,if he decides to play this year


I heard he wasnt playing anything this year.

[Homer Simpson]

Anthony Coleman

[bball fan]

Anthony Coleman will be dominate this year for East Ridge, not too sure about other 15th schools.
He is a decent high school player but no one that East Ridge has returning will "dominate" this year!!

[bball fan]

I heard he wasnt playing anything this year.
What a waste of a good athlete!! I guess he is going to concentrate on those tough classes at SV.

[Warriors23RJ]

Josh Martin-Ac
Trai Whitt-BL
Listen to this man, should be a matchup to look foward to next year in the 58th.:Thumbs: :Thumbs:

[NYY10]

I heard he wasnt playing anything this year.

Im for sure that he is play football

[Luxord]

Trai Whitt could be the best if he actually tries and plsys with all his talent

[Luxord]

Trai Whitt could be the best if he actually tries and plays with all his talent

[Old School]

Are there any true big men in the 15th 6'-4" or bigger, in the past few years someone 6'-2" was considered a big man

[J. R. VanHoose]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!

[gish_7]

Trai Whitt is 6'7'' or 6'8''...and Josh Martin is about 6'4''...thats about as big as it gets in the 15th

[bball fan]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!
Pikeville will have a 6'8 big man in the post next season. He has a ways to go before he will be really good but he will only be a sophmore. At least he will have legit "big man" size!!

[Cameron Crazy]

Lucas Herrall for East Ridge is 6'6'' but he lacks the weight.

[Warriors23RJ]

Trai Whitt is 6'7'' or 6'8''...and Josh Martin is about 6'4''...thats about as big as it gets in the 15th
Is Whitt really that big?? I didn't realize he was that tall.

[alfus21]

Pikeville will have a 6'8 big man in the post next season. He has a ways to go before he will be really good but he will only be a sophmore. At least he will have legit "big man" size!!

Size is it. He has a heckuva long way to go to be considered a "good" big man.

[wild bill]

Size is it. He has a heckuva long way to go to be considered a "good" big man. i agree but if he works hard then he will be good he has thas the size to be a great big man in the 15th........

[gish_7]

I'd say he still has a few more inches to grow to, he's only a sophomore.

[bball fan]

Size is it. He has a heckuva long way to go to be considered a "good" big man.

To be a moderator on BGR, you sure are very negative!!! I wouldn't think that a moderator would be allowed to criticize young players like you do. Oh well!!

[Moe]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!

Agreed, out of the best ""Big Little Men"" for the upcomming season I'd have Whitt-BL at the top of the list(best big man returning). I think hes a little smaller than origionally posted though maybe 6'5 at best unless a growth spurt hit him after last season..Just My thoughts. he's prolly the best though

Wh are some that are under the radar??.

[bball fan]

Size is it. He has a heckuva long way to go to be considered a "good" big man.
When is the last time you watched him play?? Because he didn't play much at all next year. I bet when you watch him the next time you will say he is improving fast. The main point of the whole conversation is that he is 6'8 and just a sophomore. Now, will he be a Todd May or a JR Vanhoose? Maybe not, but he already has the hard part, the size, which is hard to find in the 15th. Let's just hope that Williams and May can develope him!!

[bball fan]

Agreed, out of the best ""Big Little Men"" for the upcomming season I'd have Whitt-BL at th top. I think he a little smaller than origionally posted though maybe 6'5 at best unless a growth spurt hit him after last season..Just My thoughts. he's prolly the best though

Wh are some that are under the radar??.
Magoffin has a couple of little guys inside that play big.

[Moe]

Magoffin has a couple of little guys inside that play big.Some scrappy little guys is typical MC basketball, the coaches get the best of what they got..Danny Adams was a genius at this during his term as head coach for the Hornets or should I say the Runnin Hornets.of MCHS..and Coach West seems to be carrying on that tradition.

[THUNDERCHILD]

Coach Adams was alot of fun to "watch" coach. Really animated. But he knew what he was doing.

[The King]

The main point of the whole conversation is that he is 6'8 and just a sophomore. Now, will he be a Todd May or a JR Vanhoose? Maybe not

Maybe not??? :) Definitely not.... I can't believe anyone would make that comparison...

but he already has the hard part, the size, which is hard to find in the 15th.

But he lacks something else that you can't teach and that's coordination...

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Maybe not??? :) Definitely not.... I can't believe anyone would make that comparison...

I dont think anyone was making that comparison. Untill people can be cloned, there wont ever be another Todd May or J.R. Vanhoose. My prediction is, after Christmas break next season, no one will be even in his league in this region. He is getting bigger, stronger, and gaining LOTS more confidence. Plus he has something that not many big kids in this whole state has. He has a Todd May showing him stuff and playing against in open gym.



But he lacks something else that you can't teach and that's coordination...

I dont understand why everyone says he has a coordination problem. I know others his age and grade my be better than he is, but then again, they are not 6'9" either. But for his age and size, anyone who says he has a big problem are either short or dont know what they are talking about.

[The King]

It's hard to fairly evaluate his ability because he got into so few games last season. Maybe if he actually got into the game everyone could see for themselves... :thumpsup:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

It's hard to fairly evaluate his ability because he got into so few games last season. Maybe if he actually got into the game everyone could see for themselves... :thumpsup:

Does that everyone include yourself?

[JD If U Please]

I dont think anyone was making that comparison. Untill people can be cloned, there wont ever be another Todd May or J.R. Vanhoose. My prediction is, after Christmas break next season, no one will be even in his league in this region. He is getting bigger, stronger, and gaining LOTS more confidence. Plus he has something that not many big kids in this whole state has. He has a Todd May showing him stuff and playing against in open gym.





I dont understand why everyone says he has a coordination problem. I know others his age and grade my be better than he is, but then again, they are not 6'9" either. But for his age and size, anyone who says he has a big problem are either short or dont know what they are talking about.


I honestly don't believe the kid will be very good because he looks like he has a serious problem running up and down the floor. I saw him play a few games last year and I fell the best he'll ever be is giving them 15 minutes a game.

[The King]

Does that everyone include yourself?

Nope... I've watched him play numerous times and have never been impressed with his ability. I think even mentioning him in the same sentence as Todd May and J.R. Vanhoose is unfair to Devon because he just doesn't have anywhere near that ability... :Thumbs:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

It's hard to fairly evaluate his ability because he got into so few games last season. Maybe if he actually got into the game everyone could see for themselves... :thumpsup:


Nope... I've watched him play numerous times and have never been impressed with his ability. I think even mentioning him in the same sentence as Todd May and J.R. Vanhoose is unfair to Devon because he just doesn't have anywhere near that ability... :Thumbs:

so few games he played, but you watched him numerous times... hmmmm, sounds like extremes on both ends unless you can watch a few minutes of playing then know how someone would be. Ever think of being a college scout instead of a net poster?

[The King]

Have you ever heard of junior varsity??? Alot of fans that don't watch JV games probably didn't get to see him play very much because he got so little varsity playing time. I, however, watched him play numerous times in JV games. That is what I'm basing my assessment on.

Believe me, I've watched him play plenty enough to know that his ability isn't anywhere near the same league as Mr. May or Mr. Vanhoose. He isn't even in the same league as Chase Gibson for that matter.... He may develop his game to get to the level of Chase Gibson, but he has an extremely long way to go...

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Well, I dont think that anyone said he is going to be as good as Todd or JR.
I do think he will be as good as he wants to get. Remember back in time though. I cant say for sure about JR, but Todd wasnt a all stater player as a sophmore. Wasnt it Mikes team then? So before you start to judge one player to another, remember the ages of each player not when one was at their peak against another one just starting playing high school ball. Now, I am not saying that he will be another Todd or J.R. But I do think come Christmas time, you will be changing your story some from what it is now.

[bball fan]

Let's drop the topic! Let's not put the same pressure on Adams that this website put on Landon Slone last summer. Deven is a 15 year old sophomore to be. He does have a ways to go and hopefully he will work his butt off until his coordination fits his 6'9 size. Until then, sit back and enjoy the ride. I think the Panthers will be a very good team even if he isn't ready next year. I do agree with bballonly, I think he will raise a few eyebrows next season......if he continues to work hard!!

[BeaverCreek Connection]

Trevor Patton-Blackcat, I spoke with Trevor's dad and he indicated that Trevor had quit football to concentrate on Basketball this summer. Trevor is currently at a Skills Camp in Illinois. Doing quite well against kids from Chicago and surrounding area. Trevor measures solid 6'7 and has gained weight like crazy. He is in the weight room every day and is very strong. I believe Trevor could surprise some people around January. I wish him only the best, class kid with great dedication.

[youknowwhoibe]

Let Devon have time to prove himself before we dismiss him. That being said I have to say sometimes I do worry about his coordination but Im sure as he gets older, he will become more comfortable and gain that coordination needed for a big man. 15th good big men are few and far between. Give Devon time to develop. I dont expect him to be ready to play this year but, by his junior year, I expect he will be able to surpise some people plus not many people will be able to guard him. That being said he wont be a Todd May, a Vanhoose, or even a Chase Gibson, those guys were great, one of a kind players. But, Devon can be Devon so let him be what he is and work to be the best player he can be.

[The King]

So before you start to judge one player to another, remember the ages of each player not when one was at their peak against another one just starting playing high school ball. Now, I am not saying that he will be another Todd or J.R. But I do think come Christmas time, you will be changing your story some from what it is now.

If I remember correctly it was YOU that brought up the names May and Vanhoose... It is better to let others pat you (or your kid) on the back than to constantly do it yourself... :thumpsup:

[J. R. VanHoose]

To be actually measured as a "good" big man you must be able to compete against other big men from around the country. Being a "dominant" post player in Eastern Kentucky means nothing because their are not other big men to play against. Play against other quality big men across the state and nationally and you will be able to see what you need to improve on. I was able to see this early on in my high school career because Coach Runyon took our teams across the country to play against kids that would make us better!!

[The King]

Obviously J.R. you've seen what it takes to be a division I basketball player. I know it's impossible to project physicial development, but do you see the potential in any 15th region player to become a DI level player???

[BasketBallonlyfan]

If I remember correctly it was YOU that brought up the names May and Vanhoose... It is better to let others pat you (or your kid) on the back than to constantly do it yourself... :thumpsup:

Scroll back threw the list, the first time May and Vanhoose was brought up was in message 25, then you mentioned them in message 29. I just have one question for you king, What all has he been doing sense last season went out? Lets see how much you know about what you post here. Has he done anything to get better on the court, or just sat around playing X box?

[The King]

Show me one place where I said the kid didn't work... but just because you work doesn't mean you are going to be a great player... If the ability isn't there, it just isn't there...

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Make sure you keep a clean fork come Christmas time.... But let me ask this, because JR and Todd was brought up, do you think they was D-1 players as 15 year olds?

[Warlock]

Just let the boy be himself. Players dont need to be compaired to other players who no longer play the game.

[The King]

But let me ask this, because JR and Todd was brought up, do you think they was D-1 players as 15 year olds?

I do know that JR won four regional titles and I think four All "A" titles during his high school career. He started for the entirety of his career for very good Paintsville teams. He was MVP of the Sweet 16 his sophomore year, in which his team won the state title. Devan, on the other hand, rarely saw playing time for a Panther squad that finished with a 12-16 record in probably the worst region in the entire state.

[EKY Sportster]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!

:thumpsup: That's for sure!

[EKY Sportster]

To be actually measured as a "good" big man you must be able to compete against other big men from around the country. Being a "dominant" post player in Eastern Kentucky means nothing because their are not other big men to play against. Play against other quality big men across the state and nationally and you will be able to see what you need to improve on. I was able to see this early on in my high school career because Coach Runyon took our teams across the country to play against kids that would make us better!!

:thumpsup: Very True!!

[J. R. VanHoose]

Obviously J.R. you've seen what it takes to be a division I basketball player. I know it's impossible to project physicial development, but do you see the potential in any 15th region player to become a DI level player???


May I plead the fifth on this? :)

[corndog23]

May I plead the fifth on this? :)

ill take that as a no...

[The Blue Blur]

May I plead the fifth on this? :)

Sure plead it.

[Slasher 07]

I know the region has no "big men" but a 6'3 or 6'4 player can have his way in this region. And Josh Martin from AC is very good offensively and is scoring around 20 a game this summer. Has impressed me.

[Justin Credible]

I know of some big men, the biggest is Devean Adams 6'8'' of Pikeville, next is Trevor Patton 6'7'' of Prestonsburg, Trai Witt 6'4'' of Betsy Layne....Thats as big as it gets...And I read a post on here earlier that Trai Witt stood at a "MEAN" 6'8, im almost positive he hasnt hit 6'5 yet..The one to beat will be Trevor, stop him then you've stopped Prestonsburg..Devean is still young so theres not much to expect at this time but hit the weights hard and develop your game...As for Trai, I honestly believe BGR makes him out to be like a D1 player..He'll be good but im not expecting anything more than what he did last year.

[MCDADDY]

May I plead the fifth on this? :)

JR.............Who were some of the most challenging players you played against in the post when you were in high school? Both Nationally and in the state? Also, tell us the difference between the region today, versus the region you played in the 4 years you all went to state. Should be interesting.

[StillGoing]

Since no one has said anything of about Valley's, I figured I'd break the ice. Valley has two young players by the name of Taylor Newsome and Ashley Hatfield. Both are around 6'4 or 6'5 but are very athletic. Ashley is more of a softer player who will sort of play more outside than inside. Taylor is more aggressive and will base his play around the basket. I've played against these boys several times and I can see the determination and talent that they posess. I see these two doing well in the future.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Isnt Taylor more along the lines of 6 foot to 6'1"?

[J. R. VanHoose]

JR.............Who were some of the most challenging players you played against in the post when you were in high school? Both Nationally and in the state? Also, tell us the difference between the region today, versus the region you played in the 4 years you all went to state. Should be interesting.


In high school I played against some great post players but many were from across the nation. My senior year we went to St. Louis to play in a shootout against a team from Massachusetts (Governor Dummer Academy). They had a 6'11" post player - Dan Gadzuric that weighed about 250. He was supposedly the best post player in the country and he sure thought he was. But we beat his team and I out scored him 32-27. He now plays for the Bucks in the NBA.

I alos played against Chris Burgess (who went to Duke then Utah) and later played for the Suns (NBA) and Malik Allen (who went to Villanova) and later played for the Miami Heat.

The best players in Kentucky that I played against were .... honestly I can't remember any post players in Kentucky that I was really scared of playing against. Alot of them were good battles, good challenges, but nothing like the challenges of the ones I played against from across the country.

The difference in the region today vs. when I played is that many of the top teams in the region had good post players and good guards. There were good teams in the region. For example, Magoffin County was always very good. They had a 6'11" kid in the post that was very strong, and they had many good guards. I always hated playing them because it was a battle every night. Johnson Central had a 6'11" post player (Robinette) and good guards in Jason Shepherd, Derek Howard (who later played at Paintsville), Mike Jarrell and others. Sheldon Clark was always very physical. Prestonsburg had a good post player in Andy Jarvis and guards Wes Sammons and John Ortega. Pikeville had Doug Powers, Scott Justice, and Chase Gibson in the post at different times and had two great shooting guards (I forgot their names). Allen Central had Jeremy Hall and Thomas Jenkins.

What I am trying to say here is that there were alot of teams that were good and challenging in this region when I played. It was going to be a battle every night that you played. If you weren't ready you were going to get beat. The year we won the state tournament we beat Magoffin County in the region finals by 3, that was the hardest game that we had in the post season (even the state tournament). I think that that Magoffin County team could have made some noise at the state tournament that year too!! You just don't see teams like this in the region any more. Kids are too busy playing X-Box and Playstation, they are not working on their game in Open Gyms or playing pick up games aganist older guys who will make them better. I still play pick up sometimes (when I am not busy with the IBL) and I try to take some of Paintsville's high school kids with me to play against some of the guys I play with. It only makes them better!!!!

[The King]

Isnt Taylor more along the lines of 6 foot to 6'1"?

Nope... he is a very legit 6'3". :thumpsup:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Nope... he is a very legit 6'3". :thumpsup:

Funny thing... he sent me a message a weeks ago himself saying he was 6'1" either he grew 2 inches in a week, or he is playing in high heeled tennis shoes.

[StillGoing]

I know that he is my height if not a little taller, because I know I am not 6'1...scary thing is, he still has a couple of years to grow

[The King]

Funny thing... he sent me a message a weeks ago himself saying he was 6'1" either he grew 2 inches in a week, or he is playing in high heeled tennis shoes.

And the funny thing is that he is still a better post player than most, even ones that are 6'9". :shh:

[StillGoing]

Do I think that Taylor will be good? Yes I do. But as if with everything else, it will take lots of hard work and dedication these next four years. I also have reason to believe that Ashley will also fit into Valley's puzzle. I see the both of them being a terriffic duo in the future. Maybe not as soon as I'd like, but maybe a year or two before things come around.

[NYY10]

its not only about big men in ball,some of the smaller men can still get over some of the big one's

[Warlock]

I went to watch the Bobcats of Betsy Layne and the Pikeville Panthers play yesterday. After reading these post, I dont think the battle of the big men will be between Whitt and Patton. Whitt didnt impress me any at all in that game. The paint was controled by Pikeville in that match up.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I know of some big men, the biggest is Devean Adams 6'8'' of Pikeville, next is Trevor Patton 6'7'' of Prestonsburg, Trai Witt 6'4'' of Betsy Layne....Thats as big as it gets...And I read a post on here earlier that Trai Witt stood at a "MEAN" 6'8, im almost positive he hasnt hit 6'5 yet..The one to beat will be Trevor, stop him then you've stopped Prestonsburg..Devean is still young so theres not much to expect at this time but hit the weights hard and develop your game...As for Trai, I honestly believe BGR makes him out to be like a D1 player..He'll be good but im not expecting anything more than what he did last year.


Trevor did a really good job at center today, but I disagree with the stopping him part, In todays game, it was Jordan Hall that was the hot hand.

[Justin Credible]

Trevor did a really good job at center today, but I disagree with the stopping him part, In todays game, it was Jordan Hall that was the hot hand.

Well viewing both games he played in today,PikeCen/East ridge, hes the only big man who has a lick of basketball sense...From last year to this, he looks like a new player...Im very impressed.Pburg should be a very dangerous team come season. Their only problem iv'e noticed is they rely on 3's too much , what they need to do is dish it to Patton and let him score , a good inside game really opens up the Outside game. Keep doing them squats Patton, you'll be UNSTOPPABLE.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

The big man match up this year will be between Pikeville and Prestonsburg. That will be the match up to watch in the paint.

[NYY10]

Valley has Taylor Newsome and Ashley Hatfeild,but there freshman,but tall lol

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Valley has Taylor Newsome and Ashley Hatfeild,but there freshman,but tall lol

Taylor is 6'1", Ashley is around what, 6'4" to 6'5"?

[bball fan]

Some fairly good sized post players in the 15th for next season for a change. I look for the 15th to be stronger next year from what I saw this summer.

[MRC06]

The big man match up this year will be between Pikeville and Prestonsburg. That will be the match up to watch in the paint.

Yeah, but will either team be a threat to win the region? NO!

[MRC06]

Plus he has something that not many big kids in this whole state has.

A dad that won't be quiet about him on the internet?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

A dad that won't be quiet about him on the internet?

Ok, I give up. You valley people are right. Pikevilles 15 year old 6'9" sophmore got outplayed by valleys 15 year old 6'1" freshman, their 6'3" or 4 inch freshman, and a borrowed 6'8" boy. Wait, that was a valley dream I was told about. The game I seen was a little different than what valley dreams and posts on here.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

A dad that won't be quiet about him on the internet?

At least he does have someone else talking about him besides himself and not making up 20 names so he can get his name out. But it will be interesting, I filmed the game between the Valley all star 15 year old freshmans playing against Pikevilles 15 year old sophmore. It wil lbe posted in the image gallery area on here. So everyone can see if Deven sucks, and he outplayed you, what does that say about you?

[bball fan]

Yeah, but will either team be a threat to win the region? NO!
I definately don't want to get in this silly debate on this thread, but Pikeville will have a shot to win the region after watching them closely this past week and P-burg will also be better than expected.

Everyone on here needs to relax, it is only June. Let these boys enjoy the summer without this nonsense!! Don't put anymore pressure on them than they already have!

[TICKLEME]

I definately don't want to get in this silly debate on this thread, but Pikeville will have a shot to win the region after watching them closely this past week and P-burg will also be better than expected.

Everyone on here needs to relax, it is only June. Let these boys enjoy the summer without this nonsense!! Don't put anymore pressure on them than they already have!

I agree 100%. Let them play.

[wild bill]

Well, I dont think that anyone said he is going to be as good as Todd or JR.
I do think he will be as good as he wants to get. Remember back in time though. I cant say for sure about JR, but Todd wasnt a all stater player as a sophmore. Wasnt it Mikes team then? So before you start to judge one player to another, remember the ages of each player not when one was at their peak against another one just starting playing high school ball. Now, I am not saying that he will be another Todd or J.R. But I do think come Christmas time, you will be changing your story some from what it is now. i agree with ya man deven is just starting he has time to get better then he is i know him he is one of my good friends and he gets better in my opion ever time i watch him play and he will be as good as he wants to get :PirateSho

[Randy Davis]

You don't always have to tell everyone how good Deven is. Most of us who have seen him play think that he will turn out to be a very good player one day, but do you always have to downgrade everyone who doesn't feel the same way as you do. From what I have seen of Deven, he has a lot of skill but it often takes big men a while to gain coordination. I have seen a drastic improvement in him since his 8th grade year, and if he continues to improve might someday be a force in the 15th.

[Randy Davis]

Ok, I give up. You valley people are right. Pikevilles 15 year old 6'9" sophmore got outplayed by valleys 15 year old 6'1" freshman, their 6'3" or 4 inch freshman, and a borrowed 6'8" boy. Wait, that was a valley dream I was told about. The game I seen was a little different than what valley dreams and posts on here.

How did the game go? I heard from one of the Lightning's parents that Pikeville beat them one point. The parent also bragged on Deven's play when I asked what he thought. How did Deven match up with the Lightning big men? Give us your take.

That 6'8" boy isn't borrowed by the way. He has played for the Lightning for years. This isn't Shelby Valley's AAU team. It has players from June Buchanan, Shelby Valley, and a 6'4"/6'5" player from Barbourville who did not play in that game.

Why the grudge against Valley?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

How did the game go? I heard from one of the Lightning's parents that Pikeville beat them one point. The parent also bragged on Deven's play when I asked what he thought. How did Deven match up with the Lightning big men? Give us your take.

That 6'8" boy isn't borrowed by the way. He has played for the Lightning for years. This isn't Shelby Valley's AAU team. It has players from June Buchanan, Shelby Valley, and a 6'4"/6'5" player from Barbourville who did not play in that game.

Why the grudge against Valley?

I think Deven did well against Lightning. And I think you know what I meant when I called Garrison a "borrowed 6'8" boy. He a June Buchanon player, not Shelby Valley, he won't be a factor for the Wildcats. I don't have a grudge against Valley, as I said earlier Valley has a lot of talent. Unfortunately, they also have one particular player who thinks he IS the team. For over a year I have gotten private messages downing my son, Deven rarely reads any of the posts on here, but I do. I get a little tired of this particular person, insulting, degrading, and threatening my son on an almost daily basis. I guess my posts do seem a little harsh to someone just reading the boards, but I think the person I mentioned earlier understands them.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Size is it. He has a heckuva long way to go to be considered a "good" big man.

Is this a nice thing for a grown man, a moderator at that, to say about a teenager? That said, I just wanted to say that I'm not going to engage in anymore Pikeville - Shelby Valley arguments. I got so angry about the comments of one person that I let it get to the point that everyone is asking why I have a "grudge" against Valley? I don't think Valley will dominate the area like they have in the past, but that is not to say they won't have a good team. Elisha, Logan, and Jacob are outstanding players, and I think Ashley and I believe his name is Kirby? have enough size to establish an inside game for Valley in time. I am going to try to keep my posts objective, scores, stats, etc. from now on. Not saying that I am not proud of Deven. I'm very proud of him. He's a really good kid and a good basketball player. He may have some co-ordination problems at times but believe me it's not easy to be 15 and 6'9". His co-ordination is pretty good for someone who is growing so fast. No antagonizing posts fom basketballonlyfan? I hope life doesn't get too boring. Good luck to Pikeville AND Valley.

[alfus21]

Is this a nice thing for a grown man, a moderator at that, to say about a teenager? That said, I just wanted to say that I'm not going to engage in anymore Pikeville - Shelby Valley arguments. I got so angry about the comments of one person that I let it get to the point that everyone is asking why I have a "grudge" against Valley? I don't think Valley will dominate the area like they have in the past, but that is not to say they won't have a good team. Elisha, Logan, and Jacob are outstanding players, and I think Ashley and I believe his name is Kirby? have enough size to establish an inside game for Valley in time. I am going to try to keep my posts objective, scores, stats, etc. from now on. Not saying that I am not proud of Deven. I'm very proud of him. He's a really good kid and a good basketball player. He may have some co-ordination problems at times but believe me it's not easy to be 15 and 6'9". His co-ordination is pretty good for someone who is growing so fast. No antagonizing posts fom basketballonlyfan? I hope life doesn't get too boring. Good luck to Pikeville AND Valley.

:) I didn't say anything bad, so you can just calm down a little bit there bud. I was just speaking the truth, and my opinion. Nothing more, nor less.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

:) I didn't say anything bad, so you can just calm down a little bit there bud. I was just speaking the truth, and my opinion. Nothing more, nor less.

Didn't I sound calm? My point was, not every comment on here is "nice" and most are about teenagers. It was in reference to another thread and a post by Randy Davis. Dang it Alfus, if I hadn't just promised to be good I'd tell you to get your panties out of a wad. But, I'm being nice, so have a nice day!:shh:

[alfus21]

Didn't I sound calm? My point was, not every comment on here is "nice" and most are about teenagers. It was in reference to another thread and a post by Randy Davis. Dang it Alfus, if I hadn't just promised to be good I'd tell you to get your panties out of a wad. But, I'm being nice, so have a nice day!:shh:

:thatsfunn

[StillGoing]

For the last time, Taylor is taller than 6'1. As for who is the best, I am sick of tired of everyone putting each other down. Especially the guys on here who don't even play anymore. Let the boys do their thing without the criticism from everyone sitting behind a screen. Nobody has a right to say one "sucks" whether it is true or not. May the players who work hard in the off-season and give it their best at every game succeed. Good luck in 06-07 15th Region.

[TICKLEME]

In the games I saw Belfrey schooled Pikeville and Lightning.

[Mr.Baseball2]

Keep em come n

[NYY10]

Keep em come n

Stop tryin to build up your post

[Moe]

Would Shane Grimm be considered Paintsville's bigman this upcoming season?? He's a good shooter but he also plays bigger than he actually is.

[NYY10]

Would Shane Grimm be considered Paintsville's bigman this upcoming season?? He's a good shooter but he also plays bigger than he actually is.

idk about the other veiwers but i would say he is lol.

[wild bill]

o no i think bballonlyfan just burnt you :flame: :)
that was funny thats why i like this site

[wild bill]

wait what bout the other guys besides valley players and pikeville players how bout that raymond jones from sf:rockon:

[wild bill]

At least he does have someone else talking about him besides himself and not making up 20 names so he can get his name out. But it will be interesting, I filmed the game between the Valley all star 15 year old freshmans playing against Pikevilles 15 year old sophmore. It wil lbe posted in the image gallery area on here. So everyone can see if Deven sucks, and he outplayed you, what does that say about you?where is their an image gallery at on here ???

[BlackcatAlum]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!

Trevor Patton is 6'7 or 6'8 ! For Prestonsburg

1)Trai Whitt-BLHS
2)Trevor Patton-PBURG
3)???

[liveMAROON]

yes trevor is big but from what i recall it was Deven adams that tipped the ball in over him at the buzzer during one of the scrimmages. trust me ive even seen deven in the weight room working with the FOOTBALL team.....that my friend is how dedicated this youngster is......its a long way from here to England but if you got a plane that trip is much shorter....lets just say that weight room has wings...and deven is sitting first class........now let the arguing cease

[wild bill]

yes trevor is big but from what i recall it was Deven adams that tipped the ball in over him at the buzzer during one of the scrimmages. trust me ive even seen deven in the weight room working with the FOOTBALL team.....that my friend is how dedicated this youngster is......its a long way from here to England but if you got a plane that trip is much shorter....lets just say that weight room has wings...and deven is sitting first class........now let the arguing cease good post you are absolutly right

[NYY10]

Valley has 2 or 3 big Freshman

[TheEagle]

I think if you look into the 57th district, one of the strongest last year, the big men are gone. There aren't any. Last year you had Thompson, Rice, Helton, Williams, Copley, only a few of which where truly big men. I think the 57th will be a foot raced guard frenzy this year.

[ERblue4ever]

This is a wasted thread because they are no big men in the 15th region. The Adams kid from Pikeville couldn't start for most middle schools in Pike County.

[bball fan]

This is a wasted thread because they are no big men in the 15th region. The Adams kid from Pukeville couldn't start for most middle schools in Pike County.

I don't know much about the Pike Co. middle school teams this upcoming season but Deven Adams will start at Pikeville. And this is the same Panther team that beat your beloved Warriors 3 times last season! Big Dev is closer to 6"10 now and I would say that would qualify him for a "Big Man" in this region full of midgets! You had better quit worrying so much about "Pukeville" and start worrying about your baby blue team. You can start with finding a coach that will come to the head of nowhere and coach them.
Hey ERblue4ever, why don't you apply??

[LUMBERJACK'06]

josh martin form AC

[NYY10]

This is a wasted thread because they are no big men in the 15th region. The Adams kid from Pikeville couldn't start for most middle schools in Pike County.

haha..oh yea..there u go

[ERblue4ever]

bballfan, 3wins and 9 defeats against the Warriors since East Ridge opened, not bad is it?? He might be big but he can't play. That says a lot about the Pikeville program . They go to the region one time since East Ridge opened and they didn't have a winning season last year when they went to the region. Last year was our first losing season since the school opened. We will send the rest of our rejects to Pikeville.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

... We will send the rest of our rejects to Pukeville.

Keep them there, Pikeville has all they need from East Ridge....

[BigJ]

Deven Adams

[bball fan]

bballfan, 3wins and 9 defeats against the Warriors since East Ridge opened, not bad is it?? He might be big but he can't play. That says a lot about the Pikeville program . They go to the region one time since East Ridge opened and they didn't have a winning season last year when they went to the region. Last year was our first losing season since the school opened. We will send the rest of our rejects to Pukeville.

Yes, you are right. I finally agree with you ERblueforever. Pikeville will never beat them again. Last year was a complete fluke. I don't know what I was thinking. It will be ER and SV battling it out next year for the 59th. Pikeville doesn't stand a chance, they will be horrible. They probably won't even beat David!! Hail Warriors!!!

[LUMBERJACK'06]

There are no "big men" in the 15th Region!!!
there is one, devon adams from pikeville is close to 7' decent player

[BlackcatAlum]

The PF last year from Magoffin was real good, not tall but played big !

[gish_7]

I heard today that one of the teachers at Ac had a nephew move in today from Detroit...they said he was comin out for basketball this year...supposed to be a great ball player, around 6'3'' or 6'4''...this may be what Ac needs to compete for the districe and regional title this year.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Is he moving in with his aunt and uncle or are his parents moving down also?

[gish_7]

Is he moving in with his aunt and uncle or are his parents moving down also?
Im not sure

[BasketBallonlyfan]

If he did come down from Michigan, would he be able to play if his parents didnt move with him? Didnt something like that happen at South Floyd last year with a exchange student moving in with a relative?

[Warriors23RJ]

If he did come down from Michigan, would he be able to play if his parents didnt move with him? Didnt something like that happen at South Floyd last year with a exchange student moving in with a relative?
It would probabily determine his situation and how the KHSAA rules it.

[White Mike]

Devan Adams will be a force in the paint in another year.

[dfblackcat53]

Go Patton

[Moe]

To be honest and relistic, their are really no good big men in the 15th this upcoming season, I'm taking about the players who play inside that are considered big men. Maybe some will emerge this season like little from SF last season but really no one will be a force inside for any team in the region this season. It is a guard dominated region this season...jmo on this

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I think your opinion may change some before the season is out Moe. Trever Patton had some bright spots this summer, just the same as Deven Adams did. I heard that Tri Whitt did good, but he must have had a off game when I seen him play this summer. You are right though. This is a guard region.

[Moe]

I think your opinion may change some before the season is out Moe. Trever Patton had some bright spots this summer, just the same as Deven Adams did. I heard that Tri Whitt did good, but he must have had a off game when I seen him play this summer. You are right though. This is a guard region.I believe you are probabily right about my opinion changing. I was just basing it on last season performances..I believe someone will have to emerge as an inside presence to help their win the regional title IMO...like Kyle Rice did last season, Rice wasn't even a top 15-20 player in the preseson pools last season but was named the MVP of 15th region and was probabily a top 5 player at the end of the season. I heard Patton has played well during the summer and put on some weight which should help, but he didn't play alot last year so I cant judge him untill I see him play, as well as Adams and Trai Whitt, who I feel will be the best of the group going into the season, but is far from dominate at this point. Josh Martin from Allen Central may develope into a descent post player also with the right work. He's not gonna be a dominate player by no means but he works hard and should be able to hold his own against these guys...Their may even be some younger kids make names for themselves at the post position...who knows...But that JMO on this.

[dfblackcat53]

Patton had a motor accident last season, broke his hand, was getting some legit PT before the wreck. He sat out almost the whole season, got back around March.

[WWJD]

Josh Martin isn't the best player in the world and wasn't blessed with alot of ability or athleticism but he fights hard everygame and one thing you can be sure of, He will battle you in the Interior eveygame. He knows how to use what he does have to his advantage and can throw his weight around. He and Collins should be good leaders on the AC team. I respect kids who make the best of their situations.

[Nike Man]

What bigmen?? The 15th lacks size on a yearly basis.....Most of these inside players become 2-3 men if they play college ball!!!