Crum Leaving Cardinals?

[brokencard]

Rumor has it that Jaryd Crum met with some of the staff at JCHS today. Can anyone confirm that he is definately changing his school colors or was this just a chance meeting?

:popcorn:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

If he had a meeting with some of the staff, anyone except the principal or vice princpal before he actually transfers, wouldnt that make him not able to play next season?

[Bob Knight]

To my knowledge Spud is happy at SC and isn't going anywhere. His dad will be helping out the SC staff so I highly doubt it.

[FOX SPORTS]

Rumor has it that Jaryd Crum met with some of the staff at JCHS today. Can anyone confirm that he is definately changing his school colors or was this just a chance meeting?

:popcorn:
This thread will be closely monitored as this could be illegal(recruiting) according to KHSAA rules.

[StillGoing]

Well, I know he was playing for S.C. at Pikeville College. Watched him play some team from North Carolina

[Golden Eagle]

This thread is stupid especially since his dad is helping out with Sheldon Clark's team this upcoming season.

[StillGoing]

I don't see why we can not just wait until the first day of school and see where everyone is before these kinds of threads start two months before school.

[brokencard]

Someone confirmed that he was seen with his uncle that lives in Johnson County, so maybe he was just visiting with him. I hope he does make the move to JCHS though , cause I think he would be a great asset to the team!

[Warlock]

Why is it that every year people get on here and talk about the good players from teams leaving to other schools? Has it happened yet? As far as I know, Landon is still at Paintsville just the same as Jaryd will be at SC next year. Why would he take a chance on losing a year to change schools. I guess we will know for sure because isnt it that if you didnt transfer before July 15th you will be ineligable reguardless if you moved or anything?

[corndog23]

Why is it that every year people get on here and talk about the good players from teams leaving to other schools? Has it happened yet? As far as I know, Landon is still at Paintsville just the same as Jaryd will be at SC next year. Why would he take a chance on losing a year to change schools. I guess we will know for sure because isnt it that if you didnt transfer before July 15th you will be ineligable reguardless if you moved or anything?


crum is gone....and i couldnt be more upset....

[twentythree]

I don't blame him at all. If I were as talented (we all know I'm not, haha) I would have went anywhere besides Sheldon Clark to open up more oppurtunites for myself as well.

[Golden Eagle]

crum is gone....and i couldnt be more upset....
For real corndog? I'm shocked to say the least. Didn't they hire his dad to be on the staff?

[StillGoing]

I visit my aunt in Ashland, but does that mean I'm going to Greenup County? No.
I visit my uncle in Floyd Co., but does that mean I'm going to Prestonsburg? No again. Let's just leave the boy alone. Football comes before basketball. You all can then talk to me about all this around mid-November.

[brokencard]

crum is gone....and i couldnt be more upset....

I am estatic about the news! I believe JCHS will have a stronger team this '06 -'07 season. Best of luck to Spud and his family! I think you have made a good decision in choosing to call Johnson County your home.:howdy:

[cardsfan]

Isn't life great when you can tell all those people that said you were stupid and wrong "I TOLD YOU SO !!!!" Ihope that Matney's Prodigy and the rest of the coaching staff at SCHS has a great year.I look forward to seeing them when JC beats them to a pulp!!! LET THE PARTY BEGIN !!!!!! :letsparty :letsparty :Cheerlead :Thumbs:

[corndog23]

ya know, its probably a better oppurtunity to win basketball games, but thats not what you should base your life decisions on. loyalty and friendship is what i consider the most important things in life. when i heard the news, crum went from one of my best friends, to one of my worst enemies...

[BasketBallonlyfan]

He was in Tennessee playing with SC thurs fri and sat of last week... did he change after that?

[corndog23]

decision was made yesterday..

[bigcountry]

ya know, its probably a better oppurtunity to win basketball games, but thats not what you should base your life decisions on. loyalty and friendship is what i consider the most important things in life. when i heard the news, crum went from one of my best friends, to one of my worst enemies...Unfortunately there are a bunch of us that have those kind of friends that dont require us to have any enemies.

[cardsfan]

ya know, its probably a better oppurtunity to win basketball games, but thats not what you should base your life decisions on. loyalty and friendship is what i consider the most important things in life. when i heard the news, crum went from one of my best friends, to one of my worst enemies...



:dontthink You know, if you were really his friend you would wish him the best and tell him it does not matter what team he plays with.I know Spud real well and he knows just about everybody that is on this site.I bet he is saying "WOW" what great friends I have in INEZ!!! I think thats part of the problem. Nobody ever showed him the respect he truly deserved over here.You guys that call yourselves his friends are really not anything more than Judas Iscaroit's.You were just waiting for a reason to betray him!!!!

[brokencard]

decision was made yesterday..

The decision has been a long time coming. I'm sure that the decision wasn't based solely on his ability to play ball in Johnson County. His mom is originally from Johnson County and that's where most of his family is. I believe that they made a good decision and that they made it on their own. Jaryd will have better opportunities in every aspect, not just basketball! I wonder where some of us would be today if we allowed our friends to rule our lives. As far as a true friend, Jaryd will find out pretty soon who his real friends are. Hang in there Spud! Things can only get better!!!!
:Thumbs:

[moofer]

I wish Jaryd the best of luck. He will be a great addition to the Golden Eagles. He not only brings to them a great absketball player but also a fine young man. Good luck Spud.

[corndog23]

:dontthink You know, if you were really his friend you would wish him the best and tell him it does not matter what team he plays with.I know Spud real well and he knows just about everybody that is on this site.I bet he is saying "WOW" what great friends I have in INEZ!!! I think thats part of the problem. Nobody ever showed him the respect he truly deserved over here.You guys that call yourselves his friends are really not anything more than Judas Iscaroit's.You were just waiting for a reason to betray him!!!!

excuse me my friend. i showed this guy all the respect in the world. he knows me real well. and if you know ANYTHING about me, then you know i do NOT betrayal and abandonment of ones own. this guy was born and raised in inez. heck, he was my neighbor for a few years. its wrong to betray your friends and family in that way. he told me to my face that he was not going anywhere. hes a liar...and i will not associate myself with liars and betrayers.....

[Deimos]

Hard to believe he is gone. Going to be odd with him going there, and his parents teaching at SC.

[cardsfan]

excuse me my friend. i showed this guy all the respect in the world. he knows me real well. and if you know ANYTHING about me, then you know i do NOT betrayal and abandonment of ones own. this guy was born and raised in inez. heck, he was my neighbor for a few years. its wrong to betray your friends and family in that way. he told me to my face that he was not going anywhere. hes a liar...and i will not associate myself with liars and betrayers.....


:dontthink DID YOU EVER THINK HE DID NOT CHOOSE THIS SITUATION. THE USE OF WORDS LIKE LIAR ARE HARD TO FORGET.MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHOOSE A DIFFERENT WORD TO USE.I MEAN LETS THINK ABOUT IT.HE IS ONLY 16 AND HE GOES TO CHURCH AND IS INVOLVED IN THE FELLOW CHRISTIAN ATHLETES PROGRAM AT SCHS!!!I DON'T THINK JARYD IS A LIAR.HIS ACTIONS ARE TRULY JUSTIFIED.YOU ARE NO MORE THAN A FAIR WEATHER FAN OF HIS.I HOPE HE READS YOUR POST SO HE CAN SEE HOW YOU TRULY FEEL.HE IS GONE AND LIFE GOES ON! I'M SURE YOU ARE REALLY HEART BROKE ABOUT EVERYTHING,BUT TIME WILL HEAL ALL WOUNDS.

[cardsfan]

Hard to believe he is gone. Going to be odd with him going there, and his parents teaching at SC.



:dontthink YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO STIR THE POT AREN'T YOU? I SAY LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE AND MOVE ON.THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A BASKETBALL TEAM AT SCHS!!!! :Thumbs:

[Deimos]

:dontthink YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO STIR THE POT ARE'NT YOU? I SAY LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE AND MOVE ON.THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE BASKETBALL TEAM AT SCHS!!!!

You took it the wrong way. Just saying it will be odd. No stirring from me. I love Spud, and wish him luck. Wish he could of stuck around, but not everything works out the way people plan for them to.

[Nike Man]

JC is having alot of problems from what I hear. This could be a bad decision.

[The Guru]

Does anyone really know why he is transfering to JCHS???
Has his family moved yet, or are they going to?
Will he be eligible?

[Bob Knight]

Well I guess I was wrong. I feel bad for JR and SCHS but life will go on, it's not like we've been world beaters anyways. Spud's my buddy and I'll always support him and wish him the best. JC is getting a super kid and great player.

[the stud]

I know his new teammates at Jchs are really happy to have him. He is going to Ashland with them today.

[jchsrulz]

Does anyone really know why he is transfering to JCHS???
Has his family moved yet, or are they going to?
Will he be eligible?

Does anyone really know why he is transfering to JCHS???

Why three question marks? Do you think he should've transfered somewhere else? :)

If his family has moved to Johnson County, then he should be eligible. This is great news for JC. Yes he is a great player, but as most everyone knows, he is a great person.

Spud, keep your head up, several people will talk bad about you for transferring, it is just human nature. Your true friends will stay with you through thick and thin. Plus you will have several of my friends at JC that will welcome you and help you with your transistion. I wish you the best at JC!

[IISnakE]

I don't think TG meant anything with three ???'s. Why on earth would you infer that he meant something in "blue".... PHS is running off players. I'm sure The Guru knows better than anyone what the next two years are going to be about @ PHS.

[In the Know]

I don't think TG meant anything with three ???'s. Why on earth would you infer that he meant something in "blue".... PHS is running off players. I'm sure The Guru knows better than anyone what the next two years are going to be about @ PHS.

If not for your daughter's cheerleading coach or your son's bball coach what would you and the Guru talk about at night?!?!? If you are that unhappy, take your kids to another school. :argue:

[IISnakE]

If not for your daughter's cheerleading coach or your son's bball coach what would you and the Guru talk about at night?!?!? If you are that unhappy, take your kids to another school. :argue:

We don't have a problem with our son's baseball coach. As for leaving, baseball is the only reason we're staying. Baseball & making some things better than we found them. (softball field and baseball field) We're not going anywhere. Leave all this tradition and fun? As for cheer, it speaks for itself. The rest is none of your business.:howdy:

[The Guru]

Does anyone really know why he is transfering to JCHS???

Why three question marks? Do you think he should've transfered somewhere else? :)

If his family has moved to Johnson County, then he should be eligible. This is great news for JC. Yes he is a great player, but as most everyone knows, he is a great person.

Spud, keep your head up, several people will talk bad about you for transferring, it is just human nature. Your true friends will stay with you through thick and thin. Plus you will have several of my friends at JC that will welcome you and help you with your transistion. I wish you the best at JC!

Actualy I meant nothing by the tree question marks, other than like the other 2 questions merely being legit questions. f he was a 6'7" pf, yeah, I would say he needs blue.:Clap:
But Paintsville doesn't need another 6' guard! They need more basketballs!

[The Guru]

If not for your daughter's cheerleading coach or your son's bball coach what would you and the Guru talk about at night?!?!? If you are that unhappy, take your kids to another school. :argue:
What have I said about my daughter's cheer coach?
Better question....What have we saidabout anyone that wasn't true?
Even better question.....Why would you try to start something in this thread that has nothing to do with Spud going to JC???
Why don't you just stay on track??
If you would like to talk in person,m just approach me sometime since you know me! I would be glad to chit chat with ya!

[Tiger77]

What have I said about my daughter's cheer coach?
Better question....What have we saidabout anyone that wasn't true?
Even better question.....Why would you try to start something in this thread that has nothing to do with Spud going to JC???
Why don't you just stay on track??
If you would like to talk in person,m just approach me sometime since you know me! I would be glad to chit chat with ya!

Let him have it Guru. This is a JC tread, so they need to leave us Tigers alone. By the way, how is your son liking the Johnson County Babe Ruth League? PM me.

[In the Know]

We don't have a problem with our son's baseball coach. As for leaving, baseball is the only reason we're staying. Baseball & making some things better than we found them. (softball field and baseball field) We're not going anywhere. Leave all this tradition and fun? As for cheer, it speaks for itself. The rest is none of your business.:howdy:

I wasn't talking about baseball. I was talking about basketball since the Guru "knows" about Paintsville running off basketball players.

To the "Guru" - everyone knows who you are, you've made that no secret. You've talked about your sons baseball and posted about your daughter's cheerleading as Snake has posted about her sons baseball and posted about her daughter's cheerleading. Everyone knows who you are and Snake has made herself obvious.

As for Snake ~ if you read through the cheerleading posts we all know you don't like JAD. She has bad taste in uniforms, isn't a good coach, etc. Do you think that maybe she reads these boards? However, this is your opinion.

As for what you have posted "that isn't true", everything you have posted is an opinion from your POV. Opinions are not truths.

This thread is about kids leaving a school system (crum in particular). I say if a kid wants to leave, let them go. This shouldn't even be a thread. Who cares where Crum plays so long as he can lay his head down at night and be happy with his choice. My point here is that some parents and fans criticize this decision, but at the same time criticize their own schools programs, coaches, etc. The point is that I think it's brave this kid made this decision to leave his hometown, start a new school, and a new team in order to better his situation. All of those who are so terribly :lame: unhappy with their kids current situation might want to look into this.

[IISnakE]

This thread is about kids leaving a school system (crum in particular). I say if a kid wants to leave, let them go. This shouldn't even be a thread. Who cares where Crum plays so long as he can lay his head down at night and be happy with his choice. My point here is that some parents and fans criticize this decision, but at the same time criticize their own schools programs, coaches, etc. The point is that I think it's brave this kid made this decision to leave his hometown, start a new school, and a new team in order to better his situation. All of those who are so terribly :lame: unhappy with their kids current situation might want to look into this.[/QUOTE]

Since this thread is about a good young man making a choice to go somewhere to improve himself, I can't see why on earth you start this crap. I wish this young man nothing but the very best. I wish his old school the best and his new school the best. Heck, I don't have a problem with it. I was just talking to jchsrulz for goodness sakes. We had been chatting in other threads. Didn'tmean to push your buttons or have you go off on a rant about something that has no business in this thread at all.
Hey... you're 110% right about opinions and points of view. If you don't like mine or agree with it... big deal. Now, we're not going anywhere. We made the decision to stay here a long time ago, we're happy with volleyball, softball, baseball, and really we're happy to support all the recognized sports @ PHS. We SUPPORT ALL THE STUDENT-ATHLETES and we work very hard for them all year long. I'll thank you to not get on here and imply or infer that we're criticizing any athlete. Stop it. Get over it... we're HAPPY!!!! Again, If this nice young Spud child wants to improve and he believes JC is the place for that, then my hats off to him and I wish him good luck.... anything else you've brought into this is bull butter. Have a nice day & Go Tigers!:Cheerlead

[jchsrulz]

Wasn't trying to start anything, just making a little fun. I know you love to do it. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity. I know you would have zinged me if you had the chance.:thumpsup:

Your boys all-star team looks like a pretty tough squad. I wish them well!:Thumbs:

Actualy I meant nothing by the tree question marks, other than like the other 2 questions merely being legit questions. f he was a 6'7" pf, yeah, I would say he needs blue.:Clap:
But Paintsville doesn't need another 6' guard! They need more basketballs!

[JOHNBOY1956]

I CANT BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE THAT goes to paintsville would put there kids in the county league instead of the PLL. why?


I think the KHSAA might need to investigate the transfer. maybe there was some recruiting going on.:dontthink

[cardsfan]

I CANT BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE THAT goes to paintsville would put there kids in the county league instead of the PLL. why?


I think the KHSAA might need to investigate the transfer. maybe there was some recruiting going on.:dontthink




:dontthink You better be ready to prove that statement you just posted about recruitment.I know all about the whole situatoin and recruiting was not part of it!!They want their child to get a better education.The kids in Martin co. are not privy to alot of stuff people over here take for granted.I'm talking about text books for class.I know Spud has not had a math text book since 6TH grade. They do everything on a computer and are really not taught how to work math problems.Your recruitment statement is way out of line!!! As far as kids playing baseball why does it matter where they play or who they play for!!! I say mind your own business. :Thumbs:

[youknowwhoibe]

I wish him the best of luck at JC, but to say that his "true" friends will stick by his side even through the transfer isnt necessarily true. Take Pikeville a few years back, Brenton Hamilton. Some people who were his best friends practically stopped talking to him. Holding grudges may be wrong, but people feel betrayed if they transfer to another school, especially for sports reasons.

[The Guru]

OTE=jchsrulz]Wasn't trying to start anything, just making a little fun. I know you love to do it. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity. I know you would have zinged me if you had the chance.:thumpsup:

Your boys all-star team looks like a pretty tough squad. I wish them well!:Thumbs:[/QUOTE]

I know you were not starting anything and it was just in fun, but ITK wanted to put their 1 1/2 cents in and spout off!!
You are right about if I had the chance to one up you though!!!

Well he hasn't made the all-stars yet, but they could be very very good.:thumpsup:

[The Guru]

I CANT BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE THAT goes to paintsville would put there kids in the county league instead of the PLL. why?

.:dontthink


PLL was asked several times if there would be jr and sr leagues this year, and without definate answers, I felt that BRL would at least give an opp for playing time, after all, I really am one that believes it is possible to play in these leagues without bringing one's school into the mix. Ask any of the kids that play for me if anything about any school has ever been mentioned. We talk baseball and baseball only.

[The Guru]

I wasn't talking about baseball. I was talking about basketball since the Guru "knows" about Paintsville running off basketball players.
There were 13 freshmen playing basketball last year at PHS. Of those 13, 4, tops went to camp this year. Last year, PHS had (2) varsity teams at camp, this year they are playing games with nine players. PHS had three srs. to graduate, Something has had an effect, don't you think?
To the "Guru" - everyone knows who you are, you've made that no secret. You've talked about your sons baseball and posted about your daughter's cheerleading as Snake has posted about her sons baseball and posted about her daughter's cheerleading. Everyone knows who you are and Snake has made herself obvious.
Your point???

As for Snake ~ if you read through the cheerleading posts we all know you don't like JAD. She has bad taste in uniforms, isn't a good coach, etc. Do you think that maybe she reads these boards? However, this is your opinion.

As for what you have posted "that isn't true", everything you have posted is an opinion from your POV. Opinions are not truths.
Not everything has been opinions. My question to you was, "What posts were not truth?"

This thread is about kids leaving a school system (crum in particular). I say if a kid wants to leave, let them go. This shouldn't even be a thread. Who cares where Crum plays so long as he can lay his head down at night and be happy with his choice. My point here is that some parents and fans criticize this decision, but at the same time criticize their own schools programs, coaches, etc. The point is that I think it's brave this kid made this decision to leave his hometown, start a new school, and a new team in order to better his situation. All of those who are so terribly :lame: unhappy with their kids current situation might want to look into this.
Finally, you post something that has to do with this thread.
And please don't think that my family is terribly unhappy, the only thing we are not happy with, is that our son doesn't want to play football!

[JOHNBOY1956]

im glad that schools are not brought into it. but i would say that you are the only one over there across the creek that feels that way. that is one reason why the tigers are always winners and JCHS will always be second best to us. GO TIGERS



PLL was asked several times if there would be jr and sr leagues this year, and without definate answers, I felt that BRL would at least give an opp for playing time, after all, I really am one that believes it is possible to play in these leagues without bringing one's school into the mix. Ask any of the kids that play for me if anything about any school has ever been mentioned. We talk baseball and baseball only.

[BLUEGRASS-RULES]

Actualy I meant nothing by the tree question marks, other than like the other 2 questions merely being legit questions. f he was a 6'7" pf, yeah, I would say he needs blue.:Clap:
But Paintsville doesn't need another 6' guard! They need more basketballs! Paintsville needs a coach ... End of story... Legend in his own mind... Heck i could have taken those teams and won... After what i seen @ pikeville this week Bill Mike Willie Ray Bob needs to move on..

[corndog23]

wow...this thread is WAY off topic....lets get back on it or its DONE...

[The Blue Blur]

wow...this thread is WAY off topic....lets get back on it or its DONE....

[cardsfan]

Ijust read the news paper and it had a article worded as follows: CRUM LEAVES CARDS TRANSFER TO JC. THats what is all about congrats to Spud and his parents decision to make a move.JR Hammonds was quoted as saying this will make them contenders and his team will be there come march.The only way Hammomnds will be there is if he buys tickets for general admintance.He was also quoted saying as long as his parents moved he could not do a darn thing about it!!!Thay will be purchasing a house very soon and normal life can be restored at cow town U.S.A. in INEZ,KY.They also mentioned Hammonds record and boy was it awesome.He really has something to be proud of!!! :rolleyes: :)

[corndog23]

Ijust read the news paper and it had a article worded as follows: CRUM LEAVES CARDS TRANSFER TO JC. THats what is all about congrats to Spud and his parents decision to make a move.JR Hammonds was quoted as saying this will make them contenders and his team will be there come march.The only way Hammomnds will be there is if he buys tickets for general admintance.He was also quoted saying as long as his parents moved he could not do a darn thing about it!!!Thay will be purchasing a house very soon and normal life can be restored at cow town U.S.A. in INEZ,KY.They also mentioned Hammonds record and boy was it awesome.He really has something to be proud of!!! :rolleyes: :)

boy, youve got alot to be proud of too dont you. hidin behind a screen name on a silly computer callin out coaches....go apply for the job yourself, tell coach hammonds to his face what you feel about him.......you, my intellectually challenged one, need to grow up....

[cardsfan]

boy, youve got alot to be proud of too dont you. hidin behind a screen name on a silly computer callin out coaches....go apply for the job yourself, tell coach hammonds to his face what you feel about him.......you, my intellectually challenged one, need to grow up....



:thatsfunn I was just stating the facts and quotes from the paper!! Hey Corndog have you ever been so happy you just could not hide it no matter how hard you tried? Thats all it is "MY HAPPINESS!!!" I was not knocking Coach Hammonds. I was just stating what he said to the reporter.He also said there was no I in team and now that Jaryd was gone they would be better! I believe he was talking about the Crums with that statement and not SCHS. (LOL " :rolleyes: ") As far as my application they would not hire me because they don't hire winners to coach their basketball teams.:Thumbs:

[corndog23]

:thatsfunn I was just stating the facts and quotes from the paper!! Hey Corndog have you ever been so happy you just could not hide it no matter how hard you tried? Thats all it is "MY HAPPINESS!!!" I was not knocking Coach Hammonds. I was just stating what he said to the reporter.He also said there was no I in team and now that Jaryd was gone they would be better! I believe he was talking about the Crums with that statement and not SCHS. (LOL " :rolleyes: ") As far as my application they would not hire me because they don't hire winners to coach their basketball teams.:Thumbs:


i wasnt aware the paper made statements such as, "boy thats something to be proud of" or "boy was it awesome" talking about his record......
i guess you dont remember sam sparks...he was a winner...coach hammonds won the freakin district. guess that means he cant win either...

if you dont mind me askin....whats your career coaching record??

[Moose Nuck]

Well CD23, do you still feel the same way about Crum now that it looks like he is going to be playing for JC? Do you all feel like the coach will try to prevent Spud from playing for the Eagles this season, because the paper said the coach was stated to "no comment" on whether or not he would fight the transfer.

[corndog23]

Well CD23, do you still feel the same way about Crum now that it looks like he is going to be playing for JC? Do you all feel like the coach will try to prevent Spud from playing for the Eagles this season, because the paper said the coach was stated to "no comment" on whether or not he would fight the transfer.

what do you mean feel the same way?? i feel like he betrayed his friends...

no i do not believe coach hammonds will fight the transfer, and i wouldnt either...if he doesnt want to be a part of this team and this community, then let him go.we dont need liars and betrayers in this county.

[Book Keeper]

I don't agree I would fight the transfer I would not sign a release. The funny thing is His parents are teachers at the High School.

[Moose Nuck]

I'm talking about his athletic abilitites. Do you still think he will be a superstar on the defending region champs, or do you think his time to shine was with SC? I think that if he wanted to get to that next level in college, not HS, then Sheldon Clark was the place for him.

[In the Know]

I don't agree I would fight the transfer I would not sign a release. The funny thing is His parents are teachers at the High School.

If his parents are teachers and what was previously said about academics (no math book since 6th grade) is true, than this is a SMART move. They would know first hand since they are school employees. Anyone with a brain obviously wants the best for their child. If you examine test scores short of Pikeville, PHS followed by JCHS have the best HS scores in east KY. Both are great schools and would be a good choice. Of course I'm partial to one, but that's just me. Parents have a responsiblity to see that their child gets the best. Playing basketball is no reason to stay anywhere or go anywhere. His jump shot won't do him any good if he can't pass his freshman year of college. (before anyone jumps on this - I don't know the kid or his academic abilities. I was making a GENERAL statement.)

[Moose Nuck]

If its a academic move, then I can see that. Pikeville, Paintsville, and Johnson Central are the top 3 in EKY. JC's academic team is always one of the best. I hope for whatever decision this was for it works out for both parties involved.

[brokencard]

Actually cardsfan was wrong it was the 3rd grade since Jaryd had a math textbook. I'm pretty sure that the Crum's decision was not based on him solely getting to play basketball. Academics and also family I would say was a big factor! I think that it was an important decision that they did not enter into lightly. As far as Sheldon Clark fighting his eligibility, let them try, but once they establish a bone fide address according to KHSAA rules there is nothing more that can be done!They will , by the way have a bone fide address change real soon!! As far as people go I don't think you will find that many better people than the Crum family. Jaryd's parents have already had to make numerous sacrifices for his own well-being, I would also dare to say that every time they hear an insult or a threat from someone who was believed to have been a friend,they will be even more confident in the choices that they have made recently.I wish them nothing but the best in whatever they choose to do.

[Bob Knight]

The Crum family are fine people who made a very tough decision for their son's best interests, for that they shouldn't be harassed. I will continue to support SCHS Basketball and Spud, it may be a blessing in disguise and allow some younger guys to develop and shine in Spud's absence. IMO, SC wasn't gonna contend this year anyways so now they can develop guys to make a run in a couple of years.

[Old School]

What grade will Crum be in this year? What was his stats for last year?

[cardsfan]

Jaryd will be a Junior!!!

[Book Keeper]

If his parents are teachers and what was previously said about academics (no math book since 6th grade) is true, than this is a SMART move. They would know first hand since they are school employees. Anyone with a brain obviously wants the best for their child. If you examine test scores short of Pikeville, PHS followed by JCHS have the best HS scores in east KY. Both are great schools and would be a good choice. Of course I'm partial to one, but that's just me. Parents have a responsiblity to see that their child gets the best. Playing basketball is no reason to stay anywhere or go anywhere. His jump shot won't do him any good if he can't pass his freshman year of college. (before anyone jumps on this - I don't know the kid or his academic abilities. I was making a GENERAL statement.)

One thing I don't understand there was no problem with academics his 8th grade year his freshman year and sophomore year but academics is a problem now. WOW

[THOMCAT]

Jaryd: As a JCHS grad, welcome aboard. Let everyone that CLAIMED to be your friend get on with their life and you get on with yours. Do what you feel is right and follow the guidance of your parents. When basketball is over, your education will go on forever. I personally am looking forward to seeing you in black and gold, I will be there cheering for you. :letsparty

[twentythree]

The Crum family are fine people who made a very tough decision for their son's best interests, for that they shouldn't be harassed. I will continue to support SCHS Basketball and Spud, it may be a blessing in disguise and allow some younger guys to develop and shine in Spud's absence. IMO, SC wasn't gonna contend this year anyways so now they can develop guys to make a run in a couple of years.

Very well said.

I think we all need to get past the betrayal you're feeling and congratulate Spud on making an attempt to better himself. Also, the statements about poor resources and preparation for your future are completely true about SC as a school. His parents made a tough decision but I think a right one in this case. Jaryd has aspirations that extend much farther than the small schools like Alice Lloyd, Pikeville College, and Morehead State (that students/athletes from this area seem to so often flock to). And I don't think its even about the athletics anyway. Top colleges and universities look at Sheldon Clark and see them as just what they are -- a joke. I've made the statement before, if you can not achieve a high school diploma at Sheldon Clark there is something HORRIBLY wrong. And that's not directed at all the teachers as a whole, because there are a few that try to make a difference, but with no avail. Regardless of a student passing or failing, they still somehow get their problems overlooked and slip through the cracks by being allowed to graduate without earning it. I believe Benton and Teresa were considering this when they, along with Jaryd, made the decision for a switch. Spud has dreams of attending Duke... not on a basketball scholarship, but on ACADEMICS.

We seem to be all forgetting that these kids are Student Athletes. Student comes first.

With that said, once again, I'm with the Crum family on their decision and wish them the best of luck!

[In the Know]

One thing I don't understand there was no problem with academics his 8th grade year his freshman year and sophomore year but academics is a problem now. WOW

Unfortunately, now is the time when students and parents start to realize the imporance of attending college. It's usually around the soph/jr year when everyone wakes up and takes notice. By that time, it's usually too late to make any major changes, but any attempt is a positive step.

As someone who's worked with college admissions there are 3 ways to get money for college:
1- be poor. There are several pell and other federal/state grants (KTG) that can get your college paid for plus get you a refund for living expenses. DOWNFALL - you have to attend a cheap college. No private ones. Downfall #2 - if your parents make any money at all, your grants are in jeopardy. AND if YOU work through school they can DEDUCT your income from your aid package. Now how are we to motivate people to work when the gov DEDUCTS the money they earned from college money? Bizzare!

2- be an athlete - if you are a good athlete and the coaches think you can stay eligible you're good to go.

3- be SMART - this is the most likely route for any one. Get good grades, study hard and be prepared. TAKE THE ACT starting in the 8th or 9th grade year!! If you don't do well take a study course!! An ACT of 18 will get you into college, but if you would like a full academic ride, you need a 27 or better at most schools. Especially private ones where scholarships are in high demand.

Hope this clears it up. Academics are where it is! I personally would like to invite all SCHS and LCHS (on state take over) students who can make the grade to transfer to one of our 2 GREAT schools! :1: (Not trying to make anyone mad here! Just putting it out there!) :Thumbs:

[corndog23]

Unfortunately, now is the time when students and parents start to realize the imporance of attending college. It's usually around the soph/jr year when everyone wakes up and takes notice. By that time, it's usually too late to make any major changes, but any attempt is a positive step.

As someone who's worked with college admissions there are 3 ways to get money for college:
1- be poor. There are several pell and other federal/state grants (KTG) that can get your college paid for plus get you a refund for living expenses. DOWNFALL - you have to attend a cheap college. No private ones. Downfall #2 - if your parents make any money at all, your grants are in jeopardy. AND if YOU work through school they can DEDUCT your income from your aid package. Now how are we to motivate people to work when the gov DEDUCTS the money they earned from college money? Bizzare!

2- be an athlete - if you are a good athlete and the coaches think you can stay eligible you're good to go.

3- be SMART - this is the most likely route for any one. Get good grades, study hard and be prepared. TAKE THE ACT starting in the 8th or 9th grade year!! If you don't do well take a study course!! An ACT of 18 will get you into college, but if you would like a full academic ride, you need a 27 or better at most schools. Especially private ones where scholarships are in high demand.

Hope this clears it up. Academics are where it is! I personally would like to invite all SCHS and LCHS (on state take over) students who can make the grade to transfer to one of our 2 GREAT schools! :1: (Not trying to make anyone mad here! Just putting it out there!) :Thumbs:

congratulations on offending the corndog... just to let you, and everyone else know, sheldon clark has some fine educators. I went there for 4 years, and guess what, my ACT was a 30..my JUNIOR year. you can talk about how far behind they are all you want, but it is NOT the teachers fault. its the kids who REFUSE to apply themselves. all you have to do is WANT to succeed and you will...please, refrain from talkin about schools and educators which you yourself know nothing about....

[In the Know]

congratulations on offending the corndog... just to let you, and everyone else know, sheldon clark has some fine educators. I went there for 4 years, and guess what, my ACT was a 30..my JUNIOR year. you can talk about how far behind they are all you want, but it is NOT the teachers fault. its the kids who REFUSE to apply themselves. all you have to do is WANT to succeed and you will...please, refrain from talkin about schools and educators which you yourself know nothing about....

Someone offends me on average of 5 times a day. :moon: It's called living in the world. I NEVER said SC couldn't produce good students or good ACT scores. Since you are so educated, I'm sure you could reread the post and figure that out. As for ACT scores, you don't want to have that discussion with me. Trust me. I simply said that his parents have likely found out that "HE" personally (talking about one kid here) was not being challenged, taught, etc like they felt he needed to. Obviously since they work in the system, they see problems, or else they wouldn't transfer him. If it was a simple fact of kids not applying themselves with great teachers, then I say they would leave him there. There are holes in your arguement.

[cardsfan]

Very well stated In The Know!!! I'm not so sure that people understand how important academics truly are.They can open many doors that otherwise would be closed forever.Jaryd will a have a tough time adjusting,but I think he will end up doing fine.Thanks for understanding the whole situation and not just focusing on the athletics. :howdy:

[Ridge Runner]

Someone offends me on average of 5 times a day. :moon: It's called living in the world. I NEVER said SC couldn't produce good students or good ACT scores. Since you are so educated, I'm sure you could reread the post and figure that out. As for ACT scores, you don't want to have that discussion with me. Trust me. I simply said that his parents have likely found out that "HE" personally (talking about one kid here) was not being challenged, taught, etc like they felt he needed to. Obviously since they work in the system, they see problems, or else they wouldn't transfer him. If it was a simple fact of kids not applying themselves with great teachers, then I say they would leave him there. There are holes in your arguement.

So this shouldn't really offend you:

1st - That is a lot of Bull Crap! You know as well as I do that Academics don't have a **** thing to do with it. If this was the case, seeing that his parents work in that system, and have know what was wrong for many years. Why didn't they move him many years ago? Why wait until his JR year, after all the better caliber players have left his program? Also, if that were the case. Why not move him earlier, when he is in grade school? Why wait until he is high school and have to uproot your entire home and move to another county.:rolleyes:

I could care less were he goes. Spud is a great kid and a great ball player and he will be welcomed no matter where he is. I just can't stand getting on here and listening to everyone try and sugar coat it. Every single person on here knows exactly why he is transfering. If that is what his family wants to do. Then so be it. It is their son and their life. Don't get me wrong though. I am not putting down JC. They do have a fine academic program. I am just saying that if this is why he is transfering, why wait so long to do so.

2nd - Corndog23 Explain to me how you can get on here and put down someone for getting on to a coach or for that matter any one else. When you get on here and flat out call a 16 year old kid a "Liar" and a "Traitor". Then you have the nerve to tell someone they need to grow up. Please! Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Sounds to me like someone needs to practice what they preach. All this coming from a moderator! If you are going to get on to someone for something, just make sure you don't do the same thing they are doing.:dontthink

[twentythree]

congratulations on offending the corndog... just to let you, and everyone else know, sheldon clark has some fine educators. I went there for 4 years, and guess what, my ACT was a 30..my JUNIOR year. you can talk about how far behind they are all you want, but it is NOT the teachers fault. its the kids who REFUSE to apply themselves. all you have to do is WANT to succeed and you will...please, refrain from talkin about schools and educators which you yourself know nothing about....

Sorry Corndog, I disagree. There is no excuse for the poorly educated people that come from our alma mater. People CAN do better if they want, but you had no further aspiration than UK (not that its not a good school, its a GREAT school) but if you were to want to go somewhere out of the state, not that you would, but lets say Wake Forest. They would NOT take you seriously with a 4.0 gpa diploma from Sheldon Clark High School. Thats my argument. And to come from SC myself, I KNOW it was an absolute breeze.

[cardsfan]

So this shouldn't really offend you:

1st - That is a lot of Bull Crap! You know as well as I do that Academics don't have a **** thing to do with it. If this was the case, seeing that his parents work in that system, and have know what was wrong for many years. Why didn't they move him many years ago? Why wait until his JR year, after all the better caliber players have left his program? Also, if that were the case. Why not move him earlier, when he is in grade school? Why wait until he is high school and have to uproot your entire home and move to another county.:rolleyes:

I could care less were he goes. Spud is a great kid and a great ball player and he will be welcomed no matter where he is. I just can't stand getting on here and listening to everyone try and sugar coat it. Every single person on here knows exactly why he is transfering. If that is what his family wants to do. Then so be it. It is their son and their life. Don't get me wrong though. I am not putting down JC. They do have a fine academic program. I am just saying that if this is why he is transfering, why wait so long to do so.

2nd - Corndog23 Explain to me how you can get on here and put down someone for getting on to a coach or for that matter any one else. When you get on here and flat out call a 16 year old kid a "Liar" and a "Traitor". Then you have the nerve to tell someone they need to grow up. Please! Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Sounds to me like someone needs to practice what they preach. All this coming from a moderator! If you are going to get on to someone for something, just make sure you don't do the same thing they are doing.:dontthink





:dontthink I don't normally take up for people on here but, this one time I think I will. Ridge Runner I don't know who you are or where your from but, Corndog23 and myself know Jaryd Houston Crum very very well.We both have different opions on his transfer. We always banter back and forth with one another when ever possible.You are the one who does not know "crap from applebutter!!" His parents sole decision on transfering Jaryd did revolve around academics and where he wants to attend college.The basketball just made their decision a little easier.I don't think you should post on threads when you don't know anything about the situation!!! You yourself are just trying to stir the pot!!! :Thumbs:

[corndog23]

Sorry Corndog, I disagree. There is no excuse for the poorly educated people that come from our alma mater. People CAN do better if they want, but you had no further aspiration than UK (not that its not a good school, its a GREAT school) but if you were to want to go somewhere out of the state, not that you would, but lets say Wake Forest. They would NOT take you seriously with a 4.0 gpa diploma from Sheldon Clark High School. Thats my argument. And to come from SC myself, I KNOW it was an absolute breeze.
you are absolutely WRONG. i could have gone to wake forest, i could have gone to duke if i wanted, i could have gone to 99% of the colleges in the country. i CHOSE to go to UK because of my LOVE and LOYALTY to the state. 23 you know me, and you know what i am capable of, so this post really hurts...

[bigcountry]

attacking a moderator is not allowed...

[Basketballer]

If this is whats best for him then thats good, he needs to do whats best for him and not anyone else , you dont betray your friends by doing that

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I just think he did what he wanted, for whatever reason. The thing about it is, this is America. He doesnt have to explain to anyone why he did what he did. He chose to transfer so he did. Case closed. Why all the arguements when the only people who knows why he transfered is himself and his parents. JCHS is getting a great player. I dont know him personally and only talked to him once so I dont know what kind of person he is personally. I do wish him the best at his new school. The fact is, he is gone, why keep bringing it up when no matter what is said he will still be where he wishes to be. My hat goes off to him and his parents if they belive in their heart that what they did is is the right thing.

[Ridge Runner]

:dontthink I don't normally take up for people on here but, this one time I think I will. Ridge Runner I don't know who you are or where your from but, Corndog23 and myself know Jaryd Houston Crum very very well.We both have different opions on his transfer. We always banter back and forth with one another when ever possible.You are the one who does not know "crap from applebutter!!" His parents sole decision on transfering Jaryd did revolve around academics and where he wants to attend college.The basketball just made their decision a little easier.I don't think you should post on threads when you don't know anything about the situation!!! You yourself are just trying to stir the pot!!! :Thumbs:

I know more than you think. Like I said, I could care less where he goes. BUT, If they were so worried about academics why wait so long? You can take up for who ever you want. BUT, what gives Corndog the right to jump onto people when he wants and then jump onto others for doing the same thing. Just because he is a moderator, doesn't give him the right. That is a double standard. You said you don't know me, but then you say I don't know crap from applebutter. So if you don't know me how do you know I don't know the difference? Crap is the line and reasons they give for the transfer. Applebutter is what they are trying to coat and cover it with.
BUT, that's my OPINION which I am entitled to. And this is a public forum and I am a member and I can post my OPINION on any thread I well please.:thumpsup:

[rooster]

I know more than you think. Like I said, I could care less where he goes. BUT, If they were so worried about academics why wait so long? You can take up for who ever you want. BUT, what gives Corndog the right to jump onto people when he wants and then jump onto others for doing the same thing. Just because he is a moderator, doesn't give him the right. That is a double standard. You said you don't know me, but then you say I don't know crap from applebutter. So if you don't know me how do you know I don't know the difference? Crap is the line and reasons they give for the transfer. Applebutter is what they are trying to coat and cover it with.
BUT, that's my OPINION which I am entitled to. And this is a public forum and I am a member and I can post my OPINION on any thread I well please.:thumpsup:Your right Ridgerunner. DOUBLE STANDARDS seem to apply in this thread and it is absolutely not right. You cannot ban someone for their opinion and then turn around and post subject matter that is much worse.

[Warlock]

Why cant people just realize that he is gone, JC got a new student and player. All this fuss over something that cant be controled by anyone on here.