View Full Version : Top 10 Incoming Freshman Point Guards in Kentucky?
bballfanky
07-28-2006, 12:16 PM
Are there any others that are top 10-15? Feel free to fill in or correct anything. Note that some of these I've listed below are holdbacks. I think that some of the non-holdbacks will surpass some of the holdbacks when they mature more physically. I've seen all of these players several times except Wyatt. I think that point guards are perhaps the most important to the overall success of a team because they direct the offense. Some of these I've listed below might actually be closer to 2 guards. I think that J-Town and Boone County could end up having the best backcourts in the 2010 class.
Top 10:
Chad Jackson - Rose Hill, Kentucky Patriots (6'3", more of a scoring PG, ranked top 10 freshman by Kentucky Prep Hoops, ranked in the top 100 nationally by Hoop Scoop, great rebounder, defender, and slasher/finisher, athletic)
Tate Cox - June Buchanon, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (5'11"?, a holdback, great shooter, smart player)
G'lawn Guyn - Lexington (5'9", very quick, good slasher and scorer)
Ryan Popp - Boone County, Kentucky Patriots (5' 8" great court vision and on-the-ball defender, smart player)
Thomas Jackson - Jeffersontown, Derek Smith Saints (a holdback, 5'9"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (a holdback, 5'8", very smart player, good outside shooter, good defender)
Richard Kennedy - Jeffersontown, Louisville Lakers (5'8"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Mike Gabbard - Boone County (5'9", great ball handler and court vision, above average passer)
Travis Johnson - Grayson County, Kentucky Hoopstars (holdback, 5'9"?, strong, good outside shooter and finisher)
Isaac Wilson - Corbin, Louisville Yellowjackets (5'7", good ball handler and shooter)
? Wyatt - St. Xavier
Next 5:
Nick Noble - Breathitt County (a holdback, 6'0", great shooter)
Zack McElwain - Seneca, Derby City Ballers (good shooter and scorer)
Daniel Corbett - Trinity (5'3"?, quick, good ball handler, good outside shooter, very smart player)
Zach Lother - Highlands (5'3"?, quick, good passer, good outside shooter)
Branden Burdette - Lexington
The King
07-28-2006, 03:05 PM
On Elisha Justice's description you can add "amazing ball handler"...
And Tate Cox is a 2 guard rather than a point, but he is a very nice player...
free throw
07-28-2006, 07:18 PM
On Elisha Justice's description you can add "amazing ball handler"...
And Tate Cox is a 2 guard rather than a point, but he is a very nice player... Cox can play point very well. It is a lot of fun to see Cox and Justice play together. They have played together since they were small at ALC camps and later with EKL. AAU team.
Are there any others that are top 10-15? Feel free to fill in or correct anything. Note that some of these I've listed below are holdbacks. I think that some of the non-holdbacks will surpass some of the holdbacks when they mature more physically. I've seen all of these players several times except Wyatt. I think that point guards are perhaps the most important to the overall success of a team because they direct the offense. Some of these I've listed below might actually be closer to 2 guards. I think that J-Town and Boone County could end up having the best backcourts in the 2010 class.
Top 10:
Chad Jackson - Rose Hill, Kentucky Patriots (6'3", more of a scoring PG, ranked top 10 freshman by Kentucky Prep Hoops, ranked in the top 100 nationally by Hoop Scoop, great rebounder, defender, and slasher/finisher, athletic)
Tate Cox - June Buchanon, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (5'11"?, a holdback, great shooter, smart player)
G'lawn Guyn - Lexington (5'9", very quick, good slasher and scorer)
Ryan Popp - Boone County, Kentucky Patriots (5' 8" great court vision and on-the-ball defender, smart player)
Thomas Jackson - Jeffersontown, Derek Smith Saints (a holdback, 5'9"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (a holdback, 5'8", very smart player, good outside shooter, good defender)
Richard Kennedy - Jeffersontown, Louisville Lakers (5'8"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Mike Gabbard - Boone County (5'9", great ball handler and court vision, above average passer)
Travis Johnson - Grayson County, Kentucky Hoopstars (holdback, 5'9"?, strong, good outside shooter and finisher)
Isaac Wilson - Corbin, Louisville Yellowjackets (5'7", good ball handler and shooter)
? Wyatt - St. Xavier
Next 5:
Nick Noble - Breathitt County (a holdback, 6'0", great shooter)
Zack McElwain - Seneca, Derby City Ballers (good shooter and scorer)
Daniel Corbett - Trinity (5'3"?, quick, good ball handler, good outside shooter, very smart player)
Zach Lother - Highlands (5'3"?, quick, good passer, good outside shooter)
Branden Burdette - Lexington
Wow, Great job on the reserch bballfanky, Before reading your post I probabily could have named 2 or three Freshman PG's in the state..Great Job:thumpsup:
NYY10
08-01-2006, 06:58 PM
Are there any others that are top 10-15? Feel free to fill in or correct anything. Note that some of these I've listed below are holdbacks. I think that some of the non-holdbacks will surpass some of the holdbacks when they mature more physically. I've seen all of these players several times except Wyatt. I think that point guards are perhaps the most important to the overall success of a team because they direct the offense. Some of these I've listed below might actually be closer to 2 guards. I think that J-Town and Boone County could end up having the best backcourts in the 2010 class.
Top 10:
Chad Jackson - Rose Hill, Kentucky Patriots (6'3", more of a scoring PG, ranked top 10 freshman by Kentucky Prep Hoops, ranked in the top 100 nationally by Hoop Scoop, great rebounder, defender, and slasher/finisher, athletic)
Tate Cox - June Buchanon, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (5'11"?, a holdback, great shooter, smart player)
G'lawn Guyn - Lexington (5'9", very quick, good slasher and scorer)
Ryan Popp - Boone County, Kentucky Patriots (5' 8" great court vision and on-the-ball defender, smart player)
Thomas Jackson - Jeffersontown, Derek Smith Saints (a holdback, 5'9"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley, Eastern Kentucky Lightning (a holdback, 5'8", very smart player, good outside shooter, good defender)
Richard Kennedy - Jeffersontown, Louisville Lakers (5'8"?, very quick and athletic, good leaper, good slasher)
Mike Gabbard - Boone County (5'9", great ball handler and court vision, above average passer)
Travis Johnson - Grayson County, Kentucky Hoopstars (holdback, 5'9"?, strong, good outside shooter and finisher)
Isaac Wilson - Corbin, Louisville Yellowjackets (5'7", good ball handler and shooter)
? Wyatt - St. Xavier
Next 5:
Nick Noble - Breathitt County (a holdback, 6'0", great shooter)
Zack McElwain - Seneca, Derby City Ballers (good shooter and scorer)
Daniel Corbett - Trinity (5'3"?, quick, good ball handler, good outside shooter, very smart player)
Zach Lother - Highlands (5'3"?, quick, good passer, good outside shooter)
Branden Burdette - Lexington
Hey man..this looks good
3 points
08-02-2006, 05:34 PM
There is always so much hyp that comes with the Patriot's team, their players are always#1 or ranked in the top so and so I have seen them play. I have been to camps and tournaments . They have a great PR man . I will just wait untill the season starts and see who does what. By the way Chad Jackson is also a hold back. Forgot that I guess.
bballfanky
08-02-2006, 10:28 PM
There is always so much hyp that comes with the Patriot's team, their players are always#1 or ranked in the top so and so I have seen them play. I have been to camps and tournaments . They have a great PR man . I will just wait untill the season starts and see who does what. By the way Chad Jackson is also a hold back. Forgot that I guess.
Did not forget it, but he was playing up to begin with anyway. He is young enough to legitimately be a ninth grader without having to be held back. The hype is deserved in mine and many other's opinions who have seen him play over the last few years. Do you disagree that those boys are in the top 10 in KY? Who would you put before them and based on what? They have proven it in head-to-head competition against the state and nation's best. I believe the Patriots have won the AAU KY championship in their age division the last three years. I know that Jackson had a decent varsity season as a starting PG at Rose Hill even as an eighth grader. I saw him handle several senior point guards. Who did you see them play against and at which camps? The Patriots have several of the top players in Kentucky in their age class.
free throw
08-02-2006, 11:58 PM
I think every boy on the list deserved to be there. I will just wait for the season to start and see who does what. It will be high school ball, under KHSAA rules. Some of these boys played varsity as 8th graders and did well.
free throw
08-03-2006, 12:16 AM
these boys were also starters in varsity play I have watched the Patriots for the last 4 years. If a player is good , he will come to the top.
NYY10
08-03-2006, 05:15 PM
Elisha Justice's
3 points
08-09-2006, 08:18 AM
EKL got 5th place in the YBOA tournament in Orlando in June. They won the academic award as nearly all their players have a 4.0. Two of them got special recognition in academics. They chose this tournament to go to because some of the boys went to Australia right after this tournament . One of their players made the all tournament team. The same player made the all tournament team in the Kentucky High School AAU tournament as an 8th grader. He is the second 8th grader to do that. He was 8th in the state in free throws. as an 8th grader. Two of them made the 53rd and 14 region all tournament teams . Three of the boys won the middle school tournament as 7th graders and made that all tournament team as did one who was not on the Virgie team. He made it because he was high point man in the tournament .They have done very well and they have won many awards over the last 4 years. They came in 6th place in AAU in Memphis as 13U . This year they will all be in High School, and I am sure they will make their schools proud. 3 of them are guards for their school's teams.
bballfanky
08-09-2006, 05:39 PM
EKL got 5th place in the YBOA tournament in Orlando in June. They won the academic award as nearly all their players have a 4.0. Two of them got special recognition in academics. They chose this tournament to go to because some of the boys went to Australia right after this tournament . One of their players made the all tournament team. The same player made the all tournament team in the Kentucky High School AAU tournament as an 8th grader. He is the second 8th grader to do that. He was 8th in the state in free throws. as an 8th grader. Two of them made the 53rd and 14 region all tournament teams . Three of the boys won the middle school tournament as 7th graders and made that all tournament team as did one who was not on the Virgie team. He made it because he was high point man in the tournament .They have done very well and they have won many awards over the last 4 years. They came in 6th place in AAU in Memphis as 13U . This year they will all be in High School, and I am sure they will make their schools proud. 3 of them are guards for their school's teams.
They finished 6th in Division 2, right?
Congrats to your son on his accomplishments. I can tell you are proud. He is a good player. Both the Lightning and Patriots have several very good players who have exceled at every level so far, and both are good teams.
3 points
08-09-2006, 10:40 PM
They finished 6th in Division 2, right?
Congrats to your son on his accomplishments. I can tell you are proud. He is a good player. Both the Lightning and Patriots have several very good players who have exceled at every level so far, and both are good teams. I don't have a son but I am very proud of the boys that play for EKL and JBS. I am sure you are proud of your teams.
3 points
08-11-2006, 11:17 AM
I don't have a son but I am very proud of the boys that play for EKL and JBS. I am sure you are proud of your teams. You play 14U right?
bballfanky
08-14-2006, 01:32 PM
You play 14U right?
No, I am not a player. Are you?
3 points
08-14-2006, 02:08 PM
No, I am not a player. Are you?. I am not a coach, are you? I don't have a son, do you? :howdy:
3 points
08-14-2006, 02:20 PM
. I am not a coach, are you? I don't have a son, do you? :howdy:I am not a player. I am a scout.
bballfanky
08-15-2006, 10:10 PM
I am not a player. I am a scout.
What level do you scout for?
3 points
08-16-2006, 08:17 AM
. I am not a coach, are you? I don't have a son, do you? :howdy:One question at the time.
bballfanky
08-16-2006, 08:22 AM
One question at the time.
???
I guess we all scout for our own purposes...
3 points
08-16-2006, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=bballfanky]???
I guess we all scout for our own purposes...[QUOTE= I guess so. Shall we just end all this on a light note and say if a boy is good enough" HE will Get his name OUT THERE.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-16-2006, 10:34 AM
I have not heard of a AAU scout before. Can you give us a scouting report on a 15 and under AAU team that played in Cincinatti about 2 months ago named "Southeast Elite"? Team member names, or other stuff that won the 15 and under, and finished second in the 17 and under?
On a lighter note, what does a AAU team have to do with high school freshman? Besides them being the same players, I dont think the KHSAA depends on AAU for ranking players and teams.
free throw
08-16-2006, 10:37 AM
I think this thread was for the top incoming Freshman point guards. I think they all are good, I don't think I would have put them in the same order, but that is everybody's opinion. Any way.Good luck to all of them.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-16-2006, 10:50 AM
I just dont understand why some people on here on every thread somehow bring in the lightning AAU team.
3 points
08-16-2006, 10:56 AM
I have not heard of a AAU scout before. Can you give us a scouting report on a 15 and under AAU team that played in Cincinatti about 2 months ago named "Southeast Elite"? Team member names, or other stuff that won the 15 and under, and finished second in the 17 and under?
On a lighter note, what does a AAU team have to do with high school freshman? Besides them being the same players, I dont think the KHSAA depends on AAU for ranking players and teams. You might be able to fill everyone in on this one as I think you know players on that team." Southeast Elite" In my book it has absolutly nothing to do with high school ball, except some players play both. You see what they can do to some extent but most AAU coaches tend to favor certain players.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-16-2006, 11:01 AM
You might be able to fill everyone in on this one as I think you know players on that team." Southeast Elite" In my book it has absolutly nothing to do with high school ball, except some players play both. You see what they can do to some extent but most AAU coaches tend to favor certain players.
You are the one who said you was a scout. So the lightning AAU team has more to do with incoming freshman than any other AAU team? So we are to take it in your "scouting" that you only scout one team, or do you scout that one team and whoever plays them?
Mr.Baseball2
08-19-2006, 02:18 PM
Justice
3 points
08-23-2006, 11:12 PM
You are the one who said you was a scout. So the lightning AAU team has more to do with incoming freshman than any other AAU team? So we are to take it in your "scouting" that you only scout one team, or do you scout that one team and whoever plays them? :dontthink You talk more about EKL than anybody else does.:popcorn:
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 07:25 AM
:dontthink You talk more about EKL than anybody else does.:popcorn:
You are right, after you bring them up in the other threads I always say that thread has nothing to do with the AAU team.
3 points
08-24-2006, 08:23 AM
You are right, after you bring them up in the other threads I always say that thread has nothing to do with the AAU team. So, you own Blue Grass Rivals?
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 09:09 AM
So, you own Blue Grass Rivals?
No, but tell me this, what does a AAU team have to do with incoming freshmen point guards? Why not talk about them on the high school team, or the freshman team they are going to be on instead of talking about their AAU team?
3 points
08-24-2006, 01:29 PM
No, but tell me this, what does a AAU team have to do with incoming freshmen point guards? Why not talk about them on the high school team, or the freshman team they are going to be on instead of talking about their AAU team? I don't understand why it bothers you so much.
3 points
08-24-2006, 01:44 PM
I don't understand why it bothers you so much. The dude that started this thread is connected with another AAU team. He mentions Chad Jackson, Ryan Popp, and another one or two of their players.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 02:19 PM
Does this thread have anything to do with a AAU team? The "dude" that started it may play for another AAU team, but he doesnt mention them. As far as I know, AAU does not list players as freshman, sophmores, juniors, or seniors. They list them as 14 and under, 15 and under, ect. ect. ect. So this thread has NOTHING to do with AAU teams. Same as many of the other threads you gotta stick the lightning in with.
bballfanky
08-24-2006, 02:54 PM
Does this thread have anything to do with a AAU team? The "dude" that started it may play for another AAU team, but he doesnt mention them. As far as I know, AAU does not list players as freshman, sophmores, juniors, or seniors. They list them as 14 and under, 15 and under, ect. ect. ect. So this thread has NOTHING to do with AAU teams. Same as many of the other threads you gotta stick the lightning in with.
Exactly, it was not intended to be specific to AAU.
Do you by chance play for the Lightning 3-point? "Dude" isn't a term used by most parents.
3 points
08-24-2006, 05:22 PM
Exactly, it was not intended to be specific to AAU.
Do you by chance play for the Lightning 3-point? "Dude" isn't a term used by most parents. I believe you wrote a little something by each name telling who each point guard plays for. Kentucky Patriots and 2 or 3 names that they go by and EKL and how they were hold backs, but you didn't say Jackson was a hold back.
alfus21
08-24-2006, 05:27 PM
I don't understand why it bothers you so much.
I really don't either.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Mr Moderator, does the title of this thread say anything about a AAU team? I thought the responses supposed to be about the topic?
3 points
08-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Mr Moderator, does the title of this thread say anything about a AAU team? I thought the responses supposed to be about the topic? The guy started the thread off by telling what AAU team the players played on. Which was not nessesary.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 06:46 PM
EKL got 5th place in the YBOA tournament in Orlando in June. They won the academic award as nearly all their players have a 4.0. Two of them got special recognition in academics. They chose this tournament to go to because some of the boys went to Australia right after this tournament . One of their players made the all tournament team. The same player made the all tournament team in the Kentucky High School AAU tournament as an 8th grader. He is the second 8th grader to do that. He was 8th in the state in free throws. as an 8th grader. Two of them made the 53rd and 14 region all tournament teams . Three of the boys won the middle school tournament as 7th graders and made that all tournament team as did one who was not on the Virgie team. He made it because he was high point man in the tournament .They have done very well and they have won many awards over the last 4 years. They came in 6th place in AAU in Memphis as 13U . This year they will all be in High School, and I am sure they will make their schools proud. 3 of them are guards for their school's teams.
He didnt say nothing like this.... give it up, your middle school glory days are over, try to as well in high school as you all did in middle school and AAU then talk about yourselfs as much as you want. But try to stick to thread titles. Mr moderator supposed to agree with that comment too, but I forgot he is a valley supporter also.
3 points
08-24-2006, 08:28 PM
What is your day job? Iwouldn't give it up to try and keep the posters on blue grass rivals straight. You post 2.32 posts a day. I think they have some one doing that already. You just seem to want to take care of everybody, when you don't seem to have anyone involved. or do you? Thanks for reprinting that article.
free throw
08-24-2006, 08:45 PM
He didnt say nothing like this.... give it up, your middle school glory days are over, try to as well in high school as you all did in middle school and AAU then talk about yourselfs as much as you want. But try to stick to thread titles. Mr moderator supposed to agree with that comment too, but I forgot he is a valley supporter also. You just don't worry about the Glory days as they are just beginning . No one needs your approval to speak.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-24-2006, 10:40 PM
The last time I heard about the glory days just beginning was the day before the all mighty lightning team went 0-2 against teams in what is supposed to be the worst region in the state... let the glory begin.
3 points
08-25-2006, 06:17 AM
Sorry you must be mistaken. I don't remember that and you don't either. You have lost it.
free throw
08-25-2006, 06:56 AM
He is talking about that tournament at Pike Central where the team was split playing another high school tournament and didn't play together untill the last day. just before they went to Orlando. Has nothing to do with the up coming year. I remember somebody getting beat 40 pts. last year but that has nothing to do with this season coming up either.
bballfanky
08-25-2006, 07:00 AM
I believe you wrote a little something by each name telling who each point guard plays for. Kentucky Patriots and 2 or 3 names that they go by and EKL and how they were hold backs, but you didn't say Jackson was a hold back.
Yes, but that was only for an additional point of reference for people. This thread was not intended to brag about AAU teams. Besides, what do you have against the Patriots anyway?
I've already noted before that Jackson is not technically a holdback because he was playing up before he stayed back. He was young for his grade before he chose to stay back in the correct grade.
Are you also "In My Opinion" on Blue Grass Preps? I see very similar responses there. Nothing wrong with being proud of your team, but you should be able to allow other people to talk about other players and teams without getting jealous, criticizing other teams and players, and/or always trying to change the topic to your own team and players.
BasketBallonlyfan
08-25-2006, 07:30 AM
He is talking about that tournament at Pike Central where the team was split playing another high school tournament and didn't play together untill the last day. just before they went to Orlando. Has nothing to do with the up coming year. I remember somebody getting beat 40 pts. last year but that has nothing to do with this season coming up either.
I agree with the bold print 100%!!! Just like you should agree that AAU ball with players from 3 or 4 different high school teams has nothing to do with this season either.
3 points
08-25-2006, 04:13 PM
Yes, but that was only for an additional point of reference for people. This thread was not intended to brag about AAU teams. Besides, what do you have against the Patriots anyway?
I've already noted before that Jackson is not technically a holdback because he was playing up before he stayed back. He was young for his grade before he chose to stay back in the correct grade.
Are you also "In My Opinion" on Blue Grass Preps? I see very similar responses there. Nothing wrong with being proud of your team, but you should be able to allow other people to talk about other players and teams without getting jealous, criticizing other teams and players, and/or always trying to change the topic to your own team and players. Why did the boy leave Rose Hill? So he could get away from the Patriot coaches?
bballfanky
08-28-2006, 12:12 PM
Wrong again I think. :rolleyes:
Being able to play basketball AND football for his hometown school was the main motivation. Rose Hill doesn't have football. It is a good move for him. He is a very good football player, and he will have the best of both worlds now.
3 points
08-28-2006, 12:56 PM
Wrong again I think. :rolleyes:
Being able to play basketball AND football for his hometown school was the main motivation. Rose Hill doesn't have football. It is a good move for him. He is a very good football player, and he will have the best of both worlds now. I am sure you are right. it would have nothing to do with anything else. Everyone knows they treat all their players just the same. You just want him to be happy, where ever he goes. I sure wish him well and that he will get to show what he can do.
Louisville Fan
09-04-2006, 11:21 PM
I Say the Cox Kid From Jbs Is Prolly The Best Guard in the !4th
BasketBallonlyfan
09-05-2006, 10:18 AM
I Say the Cox Kid From Jbs Is Prolly The Best Guard in the !4th
I agree with that statement. Tate is a VERY talented player.
free throw
09-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Several good guards in the 14th. I don't know about freshmen guards. 15 th has some good freshman guards. Stamper from the 14th from KCC is a good guard, not sure if he plays the point. I think he plays 2 guard.
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