Who's got the best defense in the 15th?

[TheGreatest]

Tell me who you think puts the best pressure on thier opponents

[BlueBells]

D. Pugh. enough said.

[bball fan]

Last year it was Pikeville. They couldn't score very well but their defense got them a district championship and a competive game against Johnson Central in the regional tourney.

[bball fan]

D. Pugh. enough said.

Pugh was a solid defensive player. Paintsville will miss him. Without him they will struggle to stop people because of their lack of size.

[Moe]

In years past when this question came up most everybody would have said Allen Central, but since the've had such a struggle up there the past 3 season you definitley can't say them, I would Probabily put the tigers of paintsville at the top and then probabily Johnson Central with the addition of the New PG up there...JMO

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Is this a team question, or who the best players on defense?

[gish_7]

Both Paintsville and Pikeville will be solid on defense....and Allen Central is still not bad on defense, coach Martin always has them in the best shape possible

[Hoops Lover]

Last year Belfry held their opponents to around 36% from the field and forced around 21/22 turnovers per game..

[Hoops Lover]

Paintsville didn't defend very well the times I saw them last year...tried to outscore opponents..imo

[NY152]

Pikeville and Belfry were both defensive last year and probably will be again this season

[bball fan]

Paintsville didn't defend very well the times I saw them last year...tried to outscore opponents..imo

I agree! They sure couldn't slow SV down in the regional tourney, including Pugh. SV scored at will all night.

[Sweet_16]

Now that pugh is gone, Jesse Meek is the best defender in the region, HANDS DOWN
JC will be very excited for the new year, and will be dangerous with McCarty, Meek, and Crum.

[bball fan]

Now that pugh is gone, Jesse Meek is the best defender in the region, HANDS DOWN
JC will be very excited for the new year, and will be dangerous with McCarty, Meek, and Crum.

He is a good player but nothing in the 15th is "Hands Down". The region is always very close in every category including defense!

[Sweet_16]

He is a good player but nothing in the 15th is "Hands Down". The region is always very close in every category including defense!

There are some things in the region that are hands down...
Ex. McCarty and Slone are the best in the region..
Paintsiville and JC will be the 2 best teams...
AND Jesse Meek is the best defender.

---------HANDS DOWN--------------------------------

[bball fan]

There are some things in the region that are hands down...
Ex. McCarty and Slone are the best in the region..
Paintsiville and JC will be the 2 best teams...
AND Jesse Meek is the best defender.

---------HANDS DOWN--------------------------------

McCarty and Slone are very good!! The other two examples are very shaky.

[Sweet_16]

McCarty and Slone are very good!! The other two examples are very shaky.
Point well taken.:Thumbs:

[Hoops Lover]

Hands down?? Like Paintsville was going to win it "hands down" last year?? like he said...nothing or no one is hands down that much better right now in the 15th..

[The King]

There are some things in the region that are hands down...
Ex. McCarty and Slone are the best in the region..
Paintsiville and JC will be the 2 best teams...
AND Jesse Meek is the best defender.

---------HANDS DOWN--------------------------------

:rolleyes: Absolutely nothing in this region is "hands down"..... as much as you might want it to be...

[NYY10]

Shelby Valley and Pikeville

[Moe]

SV is top 3 also..IMO

[The_LeGenD]

Hands down?? Like Paintsville was going to win it "hands down" last year?? like he said...nothing or no one is hands down that much better right now in the 15th..

lol.
I believe only the "paintsville fans" said that one.....Not once in my mind did pville winning a 15th region championship cross...

[ducky]

Back to the topic... I like JC as the best defensive team..

[gish_7]

Now that pugh is gone, Jesse Meek is the best defender in the region, HANDS DOWN
JC will be very excited for the new year, and will be dangerous with McCarty, Meek, and Crum.
Umm Pugh isnt gone....he's a senior this year :Thumbs:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Back to the topic... I like JC as the best defensive team..

Check the points totals... out of 17 schools in the region, only 5 schools give up more points than JC, I dont think that would make them a defensive team. But then again, that is just my opinion.

[bball fan]

Umm Pugh isnt gone....he's a senior this year :Thumbs:

Yes, but he has hung up his basketball shoes. Him and BMR never did see eye to eye!!

[NYY10]

Shelby Valley

[Warlock]

15th region teams ranked in order of lowest to highest in points givin up during the season.

Phelps 1,384

East Ridge 1,503

Pikeville 1,504

Shelby Valley 1,687

Betsy Layne 1,763

Lawrence County 1,780

Prestonsburg 1,798

Magoffin County 1,811

Sheldon Clark 1,841

Belfry 1,861

Allen Central 1,957

Johnson Central 1,993

Paintsville 2,041

Pike Central 2,053

Piarist 2,146

South Floyd 2,233

David 2,257

I know this won't help settle the arguement. I do think some of the teams are rather surprising though.

[Hoops Lover]

Look at the number of games played as well...that will shed some light on some of the teams with lower points allowed per game.

[basketballjones]

Look at the strength of schedule too.

[tubthumper]

I thought J.C. and Paintsville has the best defense last season this year I think we'll see more teams play better defense. I'll keep my lips sealed on who I think will pick the d up in the near future till I feel comfortable revealing it..lol

[BasketBallonlyfan]

7 out of the last 8 games Pikeville played, win or lose, their opponents didnt even score 50 points. That included holding Magoffin County to 48, Betsy Layne to 45, Shelby Valley to 39, and Johnson Central to 46. Not a bad defensive effort if you ask me.

[BlueBells]

I will have to go with Shane Grimm from Paintsville. He did a mighty job defending himself last week when a fellow teammate attacked him by slapping and fist punching him in the face. Could this be more trouble for the Big Blue and BMR. Too much fighting amongst each other.

[TheGreatest]

Well...I think JC and Pikeville will have the best defenses IMO

[gish_7]

Yes, but he has hung up his basketball shoes. Him and BMR never did see eye to eye!!
wow...this is the first ive herd about this

[LUMBERJACK'06]

johnson central plays defense really well, tough to run the floor with thier intense pressure

[BlueBells]

johnson central plays defense really well, tough to run the floor with thier intense pressure


And adding Crum into the mix surely intensifies their defense.

[White Mike]

Pikeville

[Sweet_16]

JC-Paintsville-Pikeville
Meek being the best and Honaker being the next best, it will be fun to see how
Paintsville will guard some of the regions best scorers without pugh being on the roster......!!!!!

[WWJD]

I think Shelby Valley, Betsy Layne is also a team who plays good D on a typical basis.

[NYY10]

I think Shelby Valley, Betsy Layne is also a team who plays good D on a typical basis.

Thats True

[thepharmacist]

Johnson Central gives up some easy baskets due to the pressure they place on opponents. They will very tough defensively this year.

[White Mike]

JC-Paintsville-Pikeville
Meek being the best and Honaker being the next best, it will be fun to see how
Paintsville will guard some of the regions best scorers without pugh being on the roster......!!!!!Paintsvile won't have to guard anyone with Pugh off the roster...the person Pugh guarded best was Landon Slone....with Pugh not playing Landon will average 50 ppg. and Paintsville will just outscore other teams

[White Mike]

but Pikeville has the best D

[rooster]

Paintsvile won't have to guard anyone with Pugh off the roster...the person Pugh guarded best was Landon Slone....with Pugh not playing Landon will average 50 ppg. and Paintsville will just outscore other teams....and whomever Slone guards will score 60. You do the math in figuring out who wins.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

How many teams can say they held Shelby Valley to 39 points. Johnson Central to 44? East Ridge to 47?

[WWJD]

Paintsvile won't have to guard anyone with Pugh off the roster...the person Pugh guarded best was Landon Slone....with Pugh not playing Landon will average 50 ppg. and Paintsville will just outscore other teams
:) Funny but very true.:)
Pugh could play some good D though.

[rooster]

:) Funny but very true.:)
Pugh could play some good D though.I dont think there is anything funny or true at all with that statement. Pugh may have been the only true team player on the floor last year. It takes an unselfish team player to play defense. And a selfish player in most cases is the one who generally are only concerned with the scorebook. Mark it down now that Paintsville will be less of a TEAM without Pugh. Landon Slone may be the worst thing that has ever happened to Paintsville High School basketball, regardless of if he averages 70 points a game. His arrival has seemed to have been nothing but a total distraction to the Paintsville team.

Obviously there was not good chemistry, but did anyone ever stop to think it was Slone who was the jealous one and not Pugh. The times that I witnessed Slone last year he was hardly an unstoppable player, but he was a player that had problems with stopping anyone else.

If Pugh doesn't play , it is certainly Paintsville's loss.

[White Mike]

I would take Landon Slone over Pugh any day

[rooster]

I would take Landon Slone over Pugh any dayYour mentality is a prime example of why nobody out of the 15th region ever makes it out of the 15th region. You really dont have a clue.

[Warlock]

In my opinion, very few high school teams in this region play what can be considered "team defense". Each team has one or two players that try to play it. But overall, very few TEAMS play it like it is supposed to be played.

[White Mike]

I dont think there is anything funny or true at all with that statement. Pugh may have been the only true team player on the floor last year. It takes an unselfish team player to play defense. And a selfish player in most cases is the one who generally are only concerned with the scorebook. Mark it down now that Paintsville will be less of a TEAM without Pugh. Landon Slone may be the worst thing that has ever happened to Paintsville High School basketball, regardless of if he averages 70 points a game. His arrival has seemed to have been nothing but a total distraction to the Paintsville team.

Obviously there was not good chemistry, but did anyone ever stop to think it was Slone who was the jealous one and not Pugh. The times that I witnessed Slone last year he was hardly an unstoppable player, but he was a player that had problems with stopping anyone else.

If Pugh doesn't play , it is certainly Paintsville's loss.It isn't Paintsvilles loss if he doesn't play...If anything it will make them better and they will play better team ball....looks like your the one that don't have a clue little chicken man

[rooster]

It isn't Paintsvilles loss if he doesn't play...If anything it will make them better and they will play better team ball....looks like your the one that don't have a clue little chicken manYeah, well pretty much a response that I expected. As I said, your mentality is just a prime example of why nobody out of the 15th region ever makes it out of the 15th region. Your just one of the masses of teenie boppers that know it all here in the 15th region.

[White Mike]

Yeah, well pretty much a response that I expected. As I said, your mentality is just a prime example of why nobody out of the 15th region ever makes it out of the 15th region. Your just one of the masses of teenie boppers that know it all here in the 15th region.some 1 makes it out of the 15th region every year...Johnson Central made it last year

[WildcatFan08]

some 1 makes it out of the 15th region every year...Johnson Central made it last year
LOL Thats the funniest thing I've seen in awhile....Good 1 White Mike...:Clap:

[rooster]

LOL Thats the funniest thing I've seen in awhile....Good 1 White Mike...:Clap:Add yourself as being one of the intellectual masses out there Wildcat. Anybody that had a clue would know that I was talking about an individual player going on to play Major College basketball . Yeah the 15th region gets an automatic bid to the state tournament, but that's about the only way in most years they are able to get there. As I recall nobody out of the 15th region has managed to win the first game at the state tournament for the last 7 years, and it has been 11 years since anyone out of the 15th region has signed a D1 scholarship.


Its mentalities of some of you guys that fail to realize that you live in your own little "And1" worlds, and dont have the first clue as to what it takes to play D1 basketball, and I can guarantee you that the Daniel Pugh's of the world would have a much better shot at playing than the Landon Slones of the world. You have to be able to play a little defense even at the DIII level,let alone DI. Slone cant shoot out side of the freethrow lane or the charity stripe. He can't rebound, he can't jump, he can't play defense, and he can't rebound, and is not quick. He is able to score on a bunch off 5'9" guards penetrating the free throw lane and drawing a foul, which he would never be able to do against lightening quick 6'4" guards in college. He would never be able to make it to the free throw lane, let alone draw a foul on a shot attempt.

When some of you teenie boppers can get this through your thick skulls, and quit living in your fantasy worlds, the 15th region might start producing a few quality basketball players.

[basketballjones]

You have hit the nail on the head rooster. Most people in the 15th blieves if you score alot then you are the best, there is alot more to basketball than scoring.

[White Mike]

Add yourself as being one of the intellectual masses out there Wildcat. Anybody that had a clue would know that I was talking about an individual player going on to play Major College basketball . Yeah the 15th region gets an automatic bid to the state tournament, but that's about the only way in most years they are able to get there. As I recall nobody out of the 15th region has managed to win the first game at the state tournament for the last 7 years, and it has been 11 years since anyone out of the 15th region has signed a D1 scholarship.


Its mentalities of some of you guys that fail to realize that you live in your own little "And1" worlds, and dont have the first clue as to what it takes to play D1 basketball, and I can guarantee you that the Daniel Pugh's of the world would have a much better shot at playing than the Landon Slones of the world. You have to be able to play a little defense even at the DIII level,let alone DI. Slone cant shoot out side of the freethrow lane or the charity stripe. He can't rebound, he can't jump, he can't play defense, and he can't rebound, and is not quick. He is able to score on a bunch off 5'9" guards penetrating the free throw lane and drawing a foul, which he would never be able to do against lightening quick 6'4" guards in college. He would never be able to make it to the free throw lane, let alone draw a foul on a shot attempt.

When some of you teenie boppers can get this through your thick skulls, and quit living in your fantasy worlds, the 15th region might start producing a few quality basketball players.I beleive some 1 is jealous because Slone is #1 in the region for the second year in a row...i know the Cat's Pause hasn't came out yet but its safe to say that Slone is #1 again. I also belive that he is D-1 material

[rooster]

I beleive some 1 is jealous because Slone is #1 in the region for the second year in a row...i know the Cat's Pause hasn't came out yet but its safe to say that Slone is #1 again. I also belive that he is D-1 material lol. Yeah right.

[corndog23]

I beleive some 1 is jealous because Slone is #1 in the region for the second year in a row...i know the Cat's Pause hasn't came out yet but its safe to say that Slone is #1 again. I also belive that he is D-1 material

your beliefs are skewed...NOBODY in the 15th is D-1 material at this time...

[Moe]

your beliefs are skewed...NOBODY in the 15th is D-1 material at this time...
Maybe not yeat but I believe potentially he could become a D-I player, he's still young and could use 25-30lbs of muscle, but he is on the right track I believe.

[BlueBells]

Great Post, it may hurt some feelings, but the truth usually does that. I try to listen to all of Paintsvilles games via radio. Time and time again the announcers would say "someone needs to light a fire under his @$$ to make him play D" but, he wasnt the only one. Landon is pretty much known to be a **** of an inside shooter, but being labeled as a team player...never..

Add yourself as being one of the intellectual masses out there Wildcat. Anybody that had a clue would know that I was talking about an individual player going on to play Major College basketball . Yeah the 15th region gets an automatic bid to the state tournament, but that's about the only way in most years they are able to get there. As I recall nobody out of the 15th region has managed to win the first game at the state tournament for the last 7 years, and it has been 11 years since anyone out of the 15th region has signed a D1 scholarship.


Its mentalities of some of you guys that fail to realize that you live in your own little "And1" worlds, and dont have the first clue as to what it takes to play D1 basketball, and I can guarantee you that the Daniel Pugh's of the world would have a much better shot at playing than the Landon Slones of the world. You have to be able to play a little defense even at the DIII level,let alone DI. Slone cant shoot out side of the freethrow lane or the charity stripe. He can't rebound, he can't jump, he can't play defense, and he can't rebound, and is not quick. He is able to score on a bunch off 5'9" guards penetrating the free throw lane and drawing a foul, which he would never be able to do against lightening quick 6'4" guards in college. He would never be able to make it to the free throw lane, let alone draw a foul on a shot attempt.

When some of you teenie boppers can get this through your thick skulls, and quit living in your fantasy worlds, the 15th region might start producing a few quality basketball players.

[Moe]

I'd rather not get involed in this because I have no dog in the fight but the times I saw Landon play last season he often looked to set his teammates up first and shoot second, often passing up shots that I though he should have taken or could have. I can't speak for the whole season because I only saw Paintsville play a few times but as a fan observing I don't see how you can say he isn't a team player. Also I'd try and shoot more too if my team was playing keep away from me like a few players did last season. What I saw in the regional tournament from this some players on this team was one of the most selfish things I had seen in years from a team(I'm not talking about everyone), that wasn't the time for them to be keeping the ball from him and thats what got them beat. He had to earn everything he got, and thats coming from someone who's not a Paintsville fan or biased to any certain player at Paintsville, just an honest answer from my point of view.

I thought Slone and VanHoose played well together also.

I've shared my opinion on this so I'm not going to say anything else about it or get involved in anymore of their Drama.:thumpsup:

[PHS*2]

15th region teams ranked in order of lowest to highest in points givin up during the season.

Phelps 1,384

East Ridge 1,503

Pikeville 1,504

Shelby Valley 1,687

Betsy Layne 1,763

Lawrence County 1,780

Prestonsburg 1,798

Magoffin County 1,811

Sheldon Clark 1,841

Belfry 1,861

Allen Central 1,957

Johnson Central 1,993

Paintsville 2,041

Pike Central 2,053

Piarist 2,146

South Floyd 2,233

David 2,257

I know this won't help settle the arguement. I do think some of the teams are rather surprising though.


This actually suprised me!

[White Mike]

that scoring list don't matter on who plays the best defence....the teams on the top of that list didn't play much competition....the teams more towards the bottom had some really tough schedules

[DFENSE]

Does anybody know about Prestonsburg, Lawrence, or Magoffin