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JustTrying
01-10-2007, 10:56 PM
I've heard through a friend that the coach will not be back next year. I was just wondering if this holds any truth?

poco_chick4
01-11-2007, 02:50 PM
Yea i dont think that he's coming back...The couach from the middle school is suppose to be moving up to coach high school!! He's a hard coach but hes good, he coached a championship team in Florida....But as long as u think u can handle conditioning they should have a decent next year....:PirateSho

DEVILOLOGIST
01-11-2007, 03:03 PM
I would take a shot at them...

bigbill2
01-11-2007, 05:50 PM
Yea coach left .. it was very sad .. he was a great man .. as far as the new coach goes im sure that they will find someone .. Coach Rose is a good coach but i think that the admin will go outta county on this one

thecoacher
01-11-2007, 06:51 PM
Coach Jones is a good guy. I hate to see this happen. If things are the way they sound, it will not be any better with a new coach. You have to have administrative support to be successful. You must be able to choose your own staff. You also have to have buy in from the athletes. If only 3 or 4 kids are showing up for lifting, it sounds like they do not want to do better.

thecoacher
01-11-2007, 06:52 PM
Sorry, double post.

Getum-Choppin
01-12-2007, 09:35 AM
Coach Jones did resign for a fact this week.
Coach was considering leaving due to the lack of support but remained due to his loyalty to the kids. He made his decision after he was told he would not be getting any coaches hired and the non-dedication from his players.
The admin. at this point would not even tell coach is he was going to be rehired but that they hadn't made up their mind. SO, COACH MADE THE DECISION FOR THEM.
Coach asked for 1 football coach to be hired this season( just 1) and he was told "IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN".
All students who were footballplayers or who were going to play football were called into a class room this week, 60 showed up BUT ONLY 2 TO 3 HAVE SHOWED UP IN THE WEIGHT ROOM SINCE LAST SEASON. But that's what happens when the the players were told by the admin. that "You guys don't have to lift, Coach Jones cant make you lift".
The final nail was the petition that a some people came up with on their own. It was to keep coach but it was taken to all the admin. and the admin thought coach was behind it and he got the blame.
Nobody has ever had a winning record at Powell,EVER, but coach Jones had back to back 4-6 seasons and in 04 was a 1 game away form playoffs. You lost a good coach who's main concern was the kids. So it's the same ole song in Powell county. Good coach gone once again. This is my last post on Powell football indefinatley.
It's not even worth speaking of.

Truthbeknown
01-12-2007, 06:02 PM
Will Coach Jones still be teaching at Powell County? Do you think he would want to continue his coaching career at another school? Would it take a Head Coach position for him to be interested in coaching again? Sounds like he would be a good addition to any staff.

Getum-Choppin
01-13-2007, 11:19 AM
I will comment on Coach Jones so I'm not breakig my word here(lol).
I know at least 3 schools are showing interest in Coach Bruce Jones.
I don't forsee him being where he's at in any way,shape or form.
Bruce is a die-hard football guy so the man will continue coaching, No doubt.
If a school could get this coach as a coordinator, It would only benefit that school.
Your talking about a coach who has been part of Paris state championship teams and has had the highest win percentage at a school right now that has no football tradition at all. I see him pursuing a Head coaching position and with support the man would win. I don't think a coordinator position would be ruled out all together either.
If you could get Bruce Jones as an assistant coach, You better get him. He will give 100% and he is a very hard working coach. Bear Bryant couldn't win in the situation he was in.

JustTrying
01-13-2007, 02:56 PM
Coach Jones did resign for a fact this week.
Coach was considering leaving due to the lack of support but remained due to his loyalty to the kids. He made his decision after he was told he would not be getting any coaches hired and the non-dedication from his players.
The admin. at this point would not even tell coach is he was going to be rehired but that they hadn't made up their mind. SO, COACH MADE THE DECISION FOR THEM.
Coach asked for 1 football coach to be hired this season( just 1) and he was told "IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN".
All students who were footballplayers or who were going to play football were called into a class room this week, 60 showed up BUT ONLY 2 TO 3 HAVE SHOWED UP IN THE WEIGHT ROOM SINCE LAST SEASON. But that's what happens when the the players were told by the admin. that "You guys don't have to lift, Coach Jones cant make you lift".
The final nail was the petition that a some people came up with on their own. It was to keep coach but it was taken to all the admin. and the admin thought coach was behind it and he got the blame.
Nobody has ever had a winning record at Powell,EVER, but coach Jones had back to back 4-6 seasons and in 04 was a 1 game away form playoffs. You lost a good coach who's main concern was the kids. So it's the same ole song in Powell county. Good coach gone once again. This is my last post on Powell football indefinatley.
It's not even worth speaking of.


I don't believe that at all. Why would an admin. tell a young kid to not better themselves. From what I know Coach Jones is a great person, but not even close enough to being the right person for the job. Great person though and probably will be a great assistant coach somewhere. I appoligize if this makes people upset, but the truth hurts.

baseballking
01-13-2007, 10:02 PM
Yea i agree with getum-choppin .. Powell co has definitly lost my support too .. I mean they have talent , but who doesnt .. Rice is overrated, Crowe is scared, the line is lazy, no heart ... no one can catch .. imo powell co needs to do alot of work

bigbill2
01-13-2007, 10:45 PM
thanks for the support guys .. its not like were not going through enough trouble ... i guess that were too OVERRATED AND SCARED AND LAZY .. i dont care what ne one says we work hard .. the 1-9 record.. no one looks at the teams we play .. we played Russell and even tho we was down and out of it before it started we didnt think that .. im just saying u got to look behind the scenes before u judge us .. the people that do play cannot make ppl come out for weight lifting .. as far as 3 or 4 for weightlifting i guarantee that will change after basketball season

stroked
01-14-2007, 01:28 AM
see this is also one of the reasons why coach jones is leaving, everyone complaining about everything. people who have no clue what is going on, i only know 2 ppl that has posted on here that actually knows what happenend in the powell county field house in the past 3 years. powell county football has been around for close to 20 years, not like everyone in powell county wants to play football. it wasnt coach jones fault that 20 kids wanted to be apart of the team this season. not like he can hold a gun to their head and tell them to play. and as for over rated goes, how can you be over rated as a first year quarterback, and as for being scared, crowe did a great job for this being his first year playing high school. and i am apart of the lazy o-line you talked about and i guarentee you we worked and took more crap throughout the entire season than any one. and if no one can catch how come rice is one of the leading passers in the state. you have to have another person on the end of the ball to accomplish that. and matt sebey was mentioned as one of the best recievers in the state. powell dont need alot of help, they do need help but in a few years if they get support and some more players powell can be a threat to some schools. the new district can be just what is needed for powell county. and as for billy rice being over rated, i think he is under rated, he done great for his situation and all the crap he went through and he will only get better, he has 2 more years, and if he works hard and continues to show he wants it, he can lead the state in scoring and passing. who ever is the new coach will allready have a building block for the team.

Estillfootballgirl
01-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Lol...Wonder If He Wants To Come Help Out At Estill???? Ha Ha:BigLaugh:

Getum-Choppin
01-14-2007, 06:39 PM
About Big Bill, All coach ever said was positive things about this young man.
Coach Jones said he was the leader of the football team and always positive.
Trust me Bill, Coach always bragged on you son and you would have been his qb.
I talk to coach all the time and he always had great things to say about Bill.
About Matt, Sebey had alot of talent and did a great job. Coach always said Matt gave 100% on the football field.
Stroked, About the line, Truth does hurt my friend and you guys took the year off.
I only talk of what I know for a fact and if coach Jones didnt do your drills himself You guys loafed and it showed. You didnt want anybody to make you guys work this season and once again it showed. With the size you guys had, You did nothing this year and you let coach Jones down. Hey, You got what you wanted, You didn't get a line coach who would bust your *****, You got a push-over and once again it showed.
Coach Jones couldnt do it all and he had no help or dedication at all, and if you dont believe me then you dont believe coach.

stroked
01-14-2007, 10:34 PM
well seein as im the only player who didnt miss a practice throughout the entire off season, pre season and season i know a lil bit bout dedication, i lived football, there was a lack of dedication i know, having 15 players at practice will do nothing for a program. i know the line didnt live up to their potential this year, we did the best we could with what we had. its not our fault that we didnt get pushed in practice, when i looked around i saw only maybe 4 or 5 players that actually wanted to be there. and that showed every friday night. coach jones did a great job with what he had, i dont think vince lombardi could have done any better with the team this year.

The College One
01-17-2007, 08:11 PM
coach jones was the best coach powell has ever said. if it wasnt for him, powell county football would still be in the dumps. two years he led THE STATE in total defense. now if that man is not right for the job then i must not know much about football. now Just Trying, your right. he aint the right man for the job cause hes the perfect man for the job. he brought the biggest and best group of players out from the school. he was a great man. we will miss him. peace. love. hate, coach jones.

Getum-Choppin
01-18-2007, 10:17 AM
well seein as im the only player who didnt miss a practice throughout the entire off season, pre season and season i know a lil bit bout dedication, i lived football, there was a lack of dedication i know, having 15 players at practice will do nothing for a program. i know the line didnt live up to their potential this year, we did the best we could with what we had. its not our fault that we didnt get pushed in practice, when i looked around i saw only maybe 4 or 5 players that actually wanted to be there. and that showed every friday night. coach jones did a great job with what he had, i dont think vince lombardi could have done any better with the team this year.it's not your fault you didn't get pushed, HMMMMMMMMMM.
As I recall you lineman threatened to quit and not play if coach Jones brought certain coaches back who would bust your ***** at practice. That's right, You linemen threatened not to play and would boycott if he brought back certain coaches. These certain coaches could and would have helped coach Jones.
You thought about yourselves and not coach and now, WELL...........HE'S GONE.

Getum-Choppin
01-18-2007, 10:29 AM
Your not fooling anybody but yourself Stroked. Hey, Why in the heck didn't one of you seniors step up and make sure they busted their butts at line practice? One of you senior lineman should have stepped up and took over the drill if your line coach was standing around day dreaming about what's gonna happen on the "Days of our lives" today. You wanted the year off, Your last year. No way you wanted a mean ole coach doing the line who would put a foot in your hind parts when you decided" I don't feel like getting in a stance today". I don't wanna go through the chutes today, WHAAAAAAAA, WHAAAAA, WHAAA, I need my BA-BA coach. You didnt wanna be pushed and you threatened to quit if coach brought in a coach that would. SO YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESEVED, 1-9. No guts and coach Jones paid for your lack of guts. NO GUTS.

stroked
01-18-2007, 07:41 PM
i never once said i was going to quit, i would have cared less if you would have came back and coached, it would have helped. im not denying that. your just mad because you didnt get to come back, and im not worried about it any more because that is the past. hopefully who ever the new coach is will be as good as coach jones, cause this is what the thread is about, not the lineman, and i did not want to take a year off, i would have loved to be apart of your practice when you was there but it didnt happen that way, and before you go and say i wouldnt make it, i know i would have, so enough on your complaining about the line coach, about seniors who wouldnt step up on the line, there was only 3 senior linemen, my self included, and we helped during every practice. we tried and tried, this year just wasnt our year, and what kind of person thinks a team deserves a 1-9 season, thats sad, real sad your a sad man.

Getum-Choppin
01-20-2007, 10:50 AM
i never once said i was going to quit, i would have cared less if you would have came back and coached, it would have helped. im not denying that. your just mad because you didnt get to come back, and im not worried about it any more because that is the past. hopefully who ever the new coach is will be as good as coach jones, cause this is what the thread is about, not the lineman, and i did not want to take a year off, i would have loved to be apart of your practice when you was there but it didnt happen that way, and before you go and say i wouldnt make it, i know i would have, so enough on your complaining about the line coach, about seniors who wouldnt step up on the line, there was only 3 senior linemen, my self included, and we helped during every practice. we tried and tried, this year just wasnt our year, and what kind of person thinks a team deserves a 1-9 season, thats sad, real sad your a sad man.Stroked, You've really hurt my feelings. I'm so strickened with grief I can barely type. STROKED, HEY I TALK TO COACH SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK. I KNOW RIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORKED. I never one time heard how that O-line was working hard or busting their *****, NOT ONE TIME. Why don't you go ask coach Mon. how hard the O-line worked last season. AND YES, IF YOU LOAFED YOUR ***** AT PRACTICE, You deserves 0-10 actually. Coach Jones didn't but you did. Hey the bottom line is the effort you guys showed was a part pf the determing factor as to Coache's decision. SPARE ME the sob story man, Coach is a friend of mine, I k now the truth as to how hard you guys worked on the line. Coach would be over doing the backs and would have to go to the O-line drill cause you guys were standing around doing absolutely nothing. Your not fooling anyone son. ASK COACH MONDAY, HOW HARD DID THE LINE WORK THIS YEAR, ASK HIM, and I'm sure he will tell you pretty much the exact and this discussion will be over.

Getum-Choppin
01-20-2007, 10:58 AM
I'm not a bit sad buddy, I'm glad.... Glad I didn't go through what coach did last season. The actual sad thing is " No dedication and no work ethic an most of all.....NO GUTS made a good coach look really bad. Give yourself a pat on the back Stroked.

Daddy #62
01-23-2007, 07:51 AM
it's not your fault you didn't get pushed, HMMMMMMMMMM.
As I recall you lineman threatened to quit and not play if coach Jones brought certain coaches back who would bust your ***** at practice. That's right, You linemen threatened not to play and would boycott if he brought back certain coaches. These certain coaches could and would have helped coach Jones.
You thought about yourselves and not coach and now, WELL...........HE'S GONE.
... I'm part of Tight end/O-line group and nobody said that they would quit. As a matter fact I was hoping that our old line coach would come back last year because it helped us out alot. The only people who didn't want certain people back were seniors my sophomore year.

Daddy #62
01-23-2007, 08:21 AM
it's not your fault you didn't get pushed, HMMMMMMMMMM.
As I recall you lineman threatened to quit and not play if coach Jones brought certain coaches back who would bust your ***** at practice. That's right, You linemen threatened not to play and would boycott if he brought back certain coaches. These certain coaches could and would have helped coach Jones.
You thought about yourselves and not coach and now, WELL...........HE'S GONE.
... I'm part of the lazy o-line too and nobody said that they would quit. As a matter fact I was hoping that our old line coach would come back last year because it helped us out alot. The only people who didn't want certain people back were the Seniors my sophomore year. But you didn't hear this from no one. I wish Coach Jones would of stay because we would have a really good season. All the linemen got in there at practice and busted our ***. yeah we could have done better but look at the line. We have young people on the line. So next year we should have a pretty good line and since our line was so young they will have been here longer over the next few years so they will know the offense well and play better.

qb destroyer
01-23-2007, 04:57 PM
it is not fair to blame the line for coach jones's resignation. some of those kids played with heart. it was a mixture of problems that has lead to the resignation of coach jones a great coach. the main problem being an administration that thinks the world revolves around a round ball that bounces on wood. there is only 2 seniors returning next year. did you know only 10 of the members of the team were not first year players last year? so, powell county lost a great coach. lets move on encourage the young men to return do their best and give the new coach a 110% effort.

JustTrying
01-24-2007, 05:53 PM
hey getum choppin, why didn't you come back and coach this season? Just wondering because it sounds like you really care alot about powell football.

Getum-Choppin
01-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Just Trying,
I'm gonna clarify some things up first hand. I know how good these guys could have been. I had them when they were sophomores and with the exception of Russell and Flemming, Probably one of the BEST o-lines I have ever coached. Now, What I say about the line goes for the senior linemen, The underclass men I don't know.
You can't tell me a line with that size and strength could have and should have been that bad. They were huge! All they had to do was fire off the ball and ***** should have hit the ground. I know how good these guys were and if they stunk or had no talent or size I'd ever say a word. But they were good and 2 years ago when they had to walk a fine line and o-line practice was fire and brimstone, These guys were football players and took it to people. We fired off the ball, We knew how to block, We knew who to block and we got after people all night because our line practice was so hard, IT MADE THE GAMES SEAM EASY. We weren't great, BUT we never quit and had pride. I made those linmen accountable for their efforts and I graded each and every game film. If 1 linemen didn't make the grade, They all paid. I preach UNITY every day and that's what an o-line is, A unit, Not an individual. We won, We lost as a unit and by making them accountable( the film never lies) THEY GOT BETTER. I was hard and You do down-ups a whole practice if you loafed.( That's where Getum-Choppin was derived). The only unforgivable sin to me was LACK OF EFFORT. Bust your *** and mess up, I'll work with you till we get it right. Go half speed and mess up, Well........
Your gonna have a very bad day. A few of the SEIOR LINEMEN, went to coach and threatened to quit when he asked me to come back and help him. Their mommys went to the upper and it caused coach alot of grief. I told coach that if they were gonna try to cause him problems cause of it, Forget it and good luck. I could take Elam and Ledford and make all-staters. Thes particular guys were selfish and coach only had like 18 players and these big babys threatening to quit when coach offered me a job.
HEY, yOU KNEW HOW HARD IT WOULD BE, NO MORE LOAFING AND STANDING AROUND AND TAKING IT EASY. It would have been ****, But you'd have been prepared and ready for war. NO WAY YOU'D BEEN 1-9, NO WAY, I wouldn't have allowed it and you would have known better than to allow 1-9 to happen.

JustTrying
01-25-2007, 11:25 AM
I don't play football. It sounds like something else is going on, because I can feel the tension. These are just kids in high school and you, an adult, are yelling and cursing, and tryiing to embarass high school kids. That is pretty sad. Powell has never had aq great football team and its not the fault of any of the coaches. We have never taken the field and the other team be scared. If you coached at Russell, I would have stayed there as an assistant. Get over yourself. These are high school kids that have a lot of things going on and you as a coach should understand that.

Daddy #62
01-27-2007, 11:14 AM
the line we be the best again because we can and we will. we ain't taking nothing less.

bigE
02-05-2007, 04:27 PM
one thing i want to make perfectly clear is that coach jones is not the best coach powell has ever had. Tom Posey, Phillip Stockdale, Bruce Reynolds, and even Dave Collins can be in the mix and he was only an assistant. Granted Posey had some off the field issues but other than that he took powell to their first ever playoff appearance in 1997 and i believe he won 10 games in his 3 year tenure as well. I do know in1998 they won 5 which is the school record. Powell county has not always been as terrible as people make them out.

The College One
02-05-2007, 07:29 PM
bigE, You don't know nothing. Coach brought Powell from leading the state in personal fouls to not even getting any. He also brought the biggest group and best group of players out.

RUNNING DOWNHILL
02-05-2007, 07:59 PM
It's been over a week and there hasn't been much talk of whether Whitaker is any closer or further away from becoming a Pirate??? Any new news??

bigE
02-05-2007, 08:11 PM
you obviously dont know your history, maybe they did lead the state in personal fouls but they were also among the leaders in alot of stats....the DB's were ranked 2nd in the state in passing defense, and your numbers were no better the past few years. im not saying he's a bad coach all im saying is he wasn't the best. i would rather have a group of kids who get the occasional personal foul than have kids who were afraid to hit, and that bunch was not afraid to hit and every team they played knew. they were the toughest kids i'd ever seen and that was the best team, not too mention they still have the school record for wins

Daddy #62
02-06-2007, 03:02 PM
you obviously dont know your history, maybe they did lead the state in personal fouls but they were also among the leaders in alot of stats....the DB's were ranked 2nd in the state in passing defense, and your numbers were no better the past few years. im not saying he's a bad coach all im saying is he wasn't the best. i would rather have a group of kids who get the occasional personal foul than have kids who were afraid to hit, and that bunch was not afraid to hit and every team they played knew. they were the toughest kids i'd ever seen and that was the best team, not too mention they still have the school record for wins
I don't know who you are but only one coach had a tie season at powell. Coach Jones Has 3 state champs rings. One of them was one he played in. Within two years of him being in powell. Had a Dfence that was 1 in the state for 4 week in a role. Then he had the 1 rushing offense inthe state for 3 weeks. Know each other coach has done that?

bigE
02-06-2007, 04:18 PM
you might want to check your stats buddy in 98 coach posey went 5-5, and no he didn't have the number 1 anything the whole time he was there, defense or offense..i think your thinking about number 1 in the district not the state.

augustus
02-06-2007, 04:30 PM
Big E and Daddy#62, in comparing coaches, you have to look at a lot of criteria and it is not fair in a lot of situations, especially at Powell Co. Bruce Reynolds had the nerve and the guts to start a program from scratch there. We played them the 1st or 2nd year of varsity football. He had his hands full and it took a lot of hard work to do what he did. Tom Posey did a great job there as well. If I'm not mistaken he still has the best single season record. I do not recall Phillip Stockdale but I do remember Dave Collins. Tom Posey had a couple of great assistants but the only one I remember is Coach Dayne Brown. Each coach had their good points and bad and each had different support both in and out of the school. The districts each were in, needs to be considered as well. Every coach that has been at Powell has brought and left something (good and bad). The overall program needs to be considered as well from the structure, to the up keep (program & facilities), to the performance just to name a few. "IF" Mike Whitaker gets or takes this job I believe he will have the first winning season but again should you compare him to Bruce Reynolds who had to play Danville and Lex Cath, or Tom Posey that had to play Belfry, Pike Central, Johnson Central, etc., or Doug Martin or Bruce Jones that had to play Russell & Fleming & East/West Carter? I'm hoping that any coach that takes this job will have support from the new administration and that the fact the state dept. (supposedly coming in next year) is not going to hinder their ability to get the job done on the field. Those are tough situations if you are a teacher but when you are both teacher and coach it can be disastrous. Hats off to all of the coaches and players that came before and best of luck to the new coach, players and program.

bigE
02-06-2007, 04:38 PM
tom posey does have the single season win record, and his head assistant was phillip stockdale, and dayne brown came in a year later, but didn't do much. bruce reynolds in my opinion is the best coach powell had because he had the most pressure and he was let go with a number of other coaches at the same time. dave collins was good to but he was limited with what he could do, he was a great baseball coach though. the danvilles and lex catholics were alot tougher than what they are playing now, with the exception of russell...posey took them to their first ever playoff appearance in 97, so something should be said for that.

augustus
02-06-2007, 04:46 PM
I agree. I am not taking away anything from any of the guys you mentioned. They all have had an impact on the program. I am not sure how old that program actually is, (15-16 yrs?), but I believe that until the cycle begins to where the players daddy's played it is going to be tough to build a solid program. Look at all the great programs. The players fathers and in some instances grand fathers and great grand fathers have played football and most of the time for that same school. They know what it takes and instill that in their kids. Again, could not agree with you more bigE, about Coach Reynolds and Posey but I do believe every player and every coach has laid another run on the foundation needed to get the program over the hump. Again, Best wishes for the new coach, the players and the program.

Daddy #62
02-06-2007, 11:35 PM
I heard that Coach Jones has put back in for head coach for Powell Co. So maybe since Mr. Smith has resigned as principal we will have more support for our team. If they give Coach Jones the spot back they won't have to worry.

CoachB
02-07-2007, 11:58 PM
Good Luck to Coach Jones and Powell County, regardless of the outcome of the coaching situation. Coach Jones is a good man and I feel can do well given the support!

bigE
02-08-2007, 12:44 AM
i hope he goes somewhere he is wanted, i heard the only reason he ended back at powell the first time was because the other coach quit a couple of weeks before the season and they had no other choice.

MR.PERFECT
02-08-2007, 01:27 AM
the atheletic director at powell has finally decided to bring in a football coach to that has built programs and can build a program at powell. I applaud the administration on going after a coach like Whitaker. This makes a statement that they are going to make an all out effort to turn the football prgram around. Your right bigE, stockdale was a great motivator and coach. coach Reynolds had the misfortune of being in the toughest district in the state. im just glad to see the administration do the right thing and get a true football coach at Powell co.

bigE
02-08-2007, 01:28 AM
i agree they need ressurection like ive never seen before and i hope he can do it

MR.PERFECT
02-08-2007, 01:39 AM
I don't know who you are but only one coach had a tie season at powell. Coach Jones Has 3 state champs rings. One of them was one he played in. Within two years of him being in powell. Had a Dfence that was 1 in the state for 4 week in a role. Then he had the 1 rushing offense inthe state for 3 weeks. Know each other coach has done that?I'm not being negative but i will be realistic here. powell never had the best defense in the state or district ever. they have given up approximately 400 points the past couple seasons. you cant blame the players for that. if they were taught any basic fudamental defense at all that would never happen. a turn around for Powell is comming and the only thing they can do is get better.

MR.PERFECT
02-08-2007, 01:46 AM
Whitaker has won every where he has been. if he is the coach powell gets its first winning season in the next 4 years or even sooner. the kids will play for a coach like whitaker. every athelete in that school will come out and play for a coach who coached Tim Couch. wont be any more of this dressing 18 to 20 kids on game night.
if powell gets Whitaker i bet theyll dress 50 kids or better. kids will play for a guy like that.

warriorpride
02-08-2007, 01:51 AM
Good Luck to Coach Jones and Powell County, regardless of the outcome of the coaching situation. Coach Jones is a good man and I feel can do well given the support!

Good post :Thumbs:

Daddy #62
02-08-2007, 02:28 AM
I'm not being negative but i will be realistic here. powell never had the best defense in the state or district ever. they have given up approximately 400 points the past couple seasons. you cant blame the players for that. if they were taught any basic fudamental defense at all that would never happen. a turn around for Powell is comming and the only thing they can do is get better.
I telling the truth it was all over the clay city times and not to say i was on that team. Now say we wasn't the number 1 deffence in the state for 4 weeks in a row and the number 1 rushing offence in the state. The offence is true for sure because i was the left guard on that line. Look it up. 05-06 season

bigE
02-08-2007, 09:39 AM
i wouldnt rely on the clay city times for my information if i were you

Midee1
02-08-2007, 10:18 AM
I telling the truth it was all over the clay city times and not to say i was on that team. Now say we wasn't the number 1 deffence in the state for 4 weeks in a row and the number 1 rushing offence in the state. The offence is true for sure because i was the left guard on that line. Look it up. 05-06 season

I looked up some stats for you. In 06 Powell gave up 438 points while scoring 126. In 05 Powell gave up 220 points while scoring 130. That does not add up to the best defense or offense at all.

Powell was next to last in the region in 06 just edging out North Oldham. In 05 Powell was 10th in the region out of 14 teams.

The elite teams in region 3 in 06 were as follows:
Mercer scoring 760 and giving up 140 while finishing with a 15-0 record.
Russell scoring 585 and giving up 142 while finishing with a 13-2 record.
Fleming scoring 388 and giving up 229 while finishing with a 8-4 record.
Newport scoring 248 and giving up 152 while finishing with a 8-4 record.

The elite teams in Region 3 in 05 were as follows:
Russell scoring 565 and giving up 261 while finishing with a 14-1 record.
Newport scoring 541 and giving up 288 while finishing with a 11-2 record.
Mercer scoring 419 and giving up 248 while finishing with a 10-2 record
East Carter scoring 337 and giving up 214 while finishing with a 8-4 record.

RUNNING DOWNHILL
02-08-2007, 10:23 AM
link
http://www.khsaa.org/football/2005/stats.htm
(http://www.khsaa.org/football/2005/stats.htm)

bigE
02-08-2007, 10:25 AM
finally some real stats!!! i would love to see what the stats said in the clay city times

JustTrying
02-08-2007, 10:45 AM
I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.

bigE
02-08-2007, 10:49 AM
it may be in the lexington herald archives if you just know the date it came out, which would be kinda hard to narrow down but maybe

Midee1
02-08-2007, 10:52 AM
I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.

What year are you talking about. In 06 they went 1-3 the first 4 games being outscored 129-72

Midee1
02-08-2007, 10:54 AM
Now in 05 they went 3-1 the first 4 games. But I would have to say they were not the top defense by the 4th game of the year. If I remember correctly Russell was up 21-0 within the first 3 minutes of the game.

Midee1
02-08-2007, 10:56 AM
Sorry. My mistake on the 05 game. That was the 04 game I was thinking about.

RUNNING DOWNHILL
02-08-2007, 10:57 AM
Powell County
2005 Kentucky High School Football

Have a score we don't have? Call it in to 1-800-715-8388.

Coach: Bruce Jones
Class: AA
Region: 3
District: 6
Latest Stats Report: October 26, 2005

DATE
OPPONENT
SITE
SCORE
Aug 20, '05 Berea Berea 14 - 6 (W)
Aug 26, '05 Betsy Layne Powell County 40 - 6 (W)
Sep 2, '05 Phelps 20 - 0 (W)
Sep 9, '05 Open -
Sep 16, '05 Russell Powell County 12 - 42 (L)
Sep 23, '05 West Carter Powell County 6 - 26 (L)
Sep 30, '05 Morgan County Morgan County 0 - 36 (L)
Oct 6, '05 Fleming County Powell County 6 - 42 (L)
Oct 14, '05 East Carter East Carter 0 - 42 (L)
Oct 21, '05 Lewis County Powell County 4 - 6 (L)
Oct 28, '05 Estill County Estill County 28 - 14 (W)
Schedule and scores last updated at Oct 28, 2005 11:24pm

bigE
02-08-2007, 11:03 AM
they obviously dont weigh-in strength of schedule on the stats huh?

DevilsWin
02-08-2007, 11:21 AM
I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.

They had the top rated defense in the state until the JFL part of their schedule ended.

bigE
02-08-2007, 11:24 AM
jfl!!!haha i actually played jfl thats funny

JustTrying
02-08-2007, 11:31 AM
well i don't think they were the best in state, but they were ranted there.Whatever!

JustTrying
02-08-2007, 11:32 AM
Now in 05 they went 3-1 the first 4 games. But I would have to say they were not the top defense by the 4th game of the year. If I remember correctly Russell was up 21-0 within the first 3 minutes of the game.

I meant the first four weeks, before Russell

Midee1
02-08-2007, 11:53 AM
I meant the first four weeks, before Russell

OK there were just 3 games played prior to Russell. Berea, Betsy lane and Phelps. The forth week was open.

bigE
02-08-2007, 12:02 PM
yeh my middle school team could've put up 40 points against those teams

Midee1
02-08-2007, 12:04 PM
Berea and Betsy Lane were both 1-9 and Phelps was 4-7

JustTrying
02-08-2007, 12:06 PM
congrats to your middle school team. I bet they were really good in high school. Why put down a team of kids that have to play the sched put in front of them? Kind of confusing to hear grown-ups make fun of high school kids. NICE!

Midee1
02-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Just trying to post some stats about the team. I would hate to see any team fold up and certainly hope that they can get a coach in there. Plus I would hope they would get the administration to support football as well as they do basketball. At our school we have the luxury of having an administration that supports football as well as other sports. Plus in my opinion we have one of the finest coaching staffs in the state.


As an earlier poster stated. It needs to start at the JFL level and build from there. We have a wonderful feeder system here that preps our young boys for the brand of football that we play.

bigE
02-08-2007, 02:02 PM
if you dont have a feeder program you can't accomplish anything, russell is the same size as powell and their feeder program is unbelievable with the jfl they....if powell could get something of that nature than in a couple of years they could compete...but so many people in powell would rather start work at a young age than play sports...nothin wrong with that, its the only thing they all know.

DevilsWin
02-08-2007, 02:24 PM
if you dont have a feeder program you can't accomplish anything, russell is the same size as powell and their feeder program is unbelievable with the jfl they....if powell could get something of that nature than in a couple of years they could compete...but so many people in powell would rather start work at a young age than play sports...nothin wrong with that, its the only thing they all know.

:thumpsup:

bigE
02-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Thanks

breakingankles
02-08-2007, 03:29 PM
yea that would be awesome but the middle school coaches wont run the high school offense .. they are stuck up and do their own thing .. its been like that when i played .. we never ran the high school offense .. i think that that might help a little ... the jfl is good and they run the high school offense but after they leave jfl they into the middle schools own little world .. that is one major problem with powell .. never will have a program until that changes

RIP_28
02-08-2007, 09:12 PM
The head high school coach has to have total control of all levels.
He dictates to the middle and grade schools what O and D they need to run to be in compliance with teaching all levels and age groups of football players the system he uses. The base plays of the high school O and D need to be the base plays for all levels. If the high school runs the wing T then the base plays for the middle and grade schools should be buck sweep, Trap and Waggle(example). That's the key to building a football program at Powell where all coaches and levels of football are on the same page doing the same things. That's how you get better and the transition from the grade school to the middle to high school isn't that big of a transition because everyone has the basics and the same offensive and defensive system.
Not trying to step on toes but with the head coach should come a whole new face lift of coaches from the ground up. Start a new tradition with a whole new purpose and new attitudes.

JustTrying
02-08-2007, 10:10 PM
why was my post taken off earlier?

Daddy #62
02-09-2007, 03:34 AM
I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.
that is what i'm talking about

CoachB
02-09-2007, 02:34 PM
I would like to say that the last time that I talked to Coach Jones, he did not sound like he would be taking the job back. Even with the principal leaving, I don't think that he will take it back. I DO look to see him coaching again in the very near future!

I heard that Coach Jones has put back in for head coach for Powell Co. So maybe since Mr. Smith has resigned as principal we will have more support for our team. If they give Coach Jones the spot back they won't have to worry.

Daddy #62
02-09-2007, 05:12 PM
I would like to say that the last time that I talked to Coach Jones, he did not sound like he would be taking the job back. Even with the principal leaving, I don't think that he will take it back. I DO look to see him coaching again in the very near future!
That what someone who knows him well said. So he may have and it could just be someone saying it. But this person doesn't lie.

Daddy #62
02-09-2007, 09:41 PM
That what someone who knows him well said. So he may have and it could just be someone saying it. But this person doesn't lie.
coach jones said he didn't put in and the person who suppose siad he did lie so. just to clear it up.

JustTrying
02-09-2007, 09:50 PM
who is your english teacher. SPELL CHECK.

MR.PERFECT
02-09-2007, 10:22 PM
they obviously dont weigh-in strength of schedule on the stats huh?Powell for last year
Mcreary Central 30 8 L
Betsy lane 26 22 L
Phelps 16 14 W
West Carter 61 22 L
Russell 55 0 L
Morgan 65 6 L
Flemming 61 6
East carter 48 22 L
Lewis 51 14 L
Estill 39 8 L

There were major problems when Powell wasnt 3 and 0 after those first 3 games. Morgan only won like 2 games and Lewis only won like 1 to the best of my recolection. Powell couldnt even compete with bad teams. You cant blame the kids cause if they were coached up at all theyd beat morgan and lewis.
defense aint about lining up punt block on every down. powell lined up like 10 guys standing on the line and just shooting through every gap. The kids deserve better

bigE
02-10-2007, 02:14 PM
teams they should have beat......betsy layne, lewis, estill and maybe even mcreary central, but for some reason that never happens the way it should....lack of motivation....what do these kids have to play for, what is their incentive?

Daddy #62
02-11-2007, 04:55 PM
teams they should have beat......betsy layne, lewis, estill and maybe even mcreary central, but for some reason that never happens the way it should....lack of motivation....what do these kids have to play for, what is their incentive?
Most of the players play because of one reason. They love the game. Not because they have to. Coach Jones motivated alot of the players by the sign in the weight room. Coach Clark would tell us stuff to help motivate us. You can't force a player to be motivated. The player has to be motivated by himself and other people can help motivate him. Another reason why we play is to prove people wrong about our football team. Everyone says we suck. So we get out there and we try with all of our heart to help make the team better.

dfblackcat53
02-11-2007, 09:45 PM
good luck powell in finding a coach

Derrick Blackford #1
02-12-2007, 08:27 AM
is everyone crazy come on we all know coach jones was the best coach powell as ever had. there never be someone better than him in my eyes. He taught me stuff no other coach can. i hope he comes back and get to think that over. Coach Jones is like my bestfriend and it never change. Its not his fault the record was bad it was people that only cared about them selves and not others and as a team. But i hope this comming season we can knock peoples heads up and work hard and over come mistakes the easy way.

bigE
02-12-2007, 10:13 AM
the only reason you think he is the best is because you've never had another coach to compare so theres really no reason for you to even argue this point

sportsfreak22
02-12-2007, 11:20 PM
theres really no reason for you to keep putting powell co down...these boys are never going to be good if all they hear is u guys suck and u have no good coaching staff

CoachB
02-12-2007, 11:56 PM
Excellent post!!! You must build the house instead of tearing it down!!theres really no reason for you to keep putting powell co down...these boys are never going to be good if all they hear is u guys suck and u have no good coaching staff