Hazard and Pikeville

[midback8]

Are these two 1A power houses a definite top 10 team in the state for the 07 season???

[A Decent Lineman]

Yeah they pretty much have to be because the only other teams left that are any good in 1a are LCA, Raceland, Mayfield, and Beechwood. So I guess these two teams will be competing late into the playoffs.

[Buckeyex7x]

Yea atleast for a while.

[A Decent Lineman]

Yea atleast for a while.

Who else do you have in mind???

[BIGBLACK]

Hazard nor Pikeville are the teams of past. No one fears them anymore, much like the UK Basketball program. Hard to call a team that hasn't won a state title since 1989 or a team that hasn't won one at all a state powerhouse. JMO.

[A Decent Lineman]

Hazard nor Pikeville are the teams of past. No one fears them anymore, much like the UK Basketball program. Hard to call a team that hasn't won a state title since 1989 or a team that hasn't won one at all a state powerhouse. JMO.

Who else is there in 1A??? Hazard, Pikeville, LCA, Beechwood, Mayfield, and Raceland---and btw the status about Hazard never winning a state title will soon change..lol

[BIGBLACK]

Who else is there in 1A??? Hazard, Pikeville, LCA, Beechwood, Mayfield, and Raceland---and btw the status about Hazard never winning a state title will soon change..lol

It's always good to think positive about your team. But be honest, no team from Region 4 has defeated a Region 3 team since Middlesboro in 1998. Size and speed in mountain A football has been on a steady decline. No team in the near future from Region 4 will compete for the state title so its hard to call either one of these two programs a powerhouse.

[GridironGang1]

well , idk about that because the last two years have shown a steady increase, going 10-1 and then beating pikeville to get to the third round, i think they r getting much better so yea , could possible win state ina couple of years

[hillbilly]

You can count on one hand the teams from EKY that have state titles over the last 20 years. Beechwood and Mayfield are neither one near what they were in the 90's either. The difference in the EKY schools and the others are (1) quantity of players and (2) the big boys up front.

[BIGBLACK]

You can count on one hand the teams from EKY that have state titles over the last 20 years. Beechwood and Mayfield are neither one near what they were in the 90's either. The difference in the EKY schools and the others are (1) quantity of players and (2) the big boys up front.

You are right about quantity, but you forgot quality. There is more raw talent on the football field when it comes to speed, agility, and toughness everywhere else in the state, but the mountains. Riding 4-wheelers and playing video games gets you a broke neck and fat.

[A Decent Lineman]

You are right about quantity, but you forgot quality. There is more raw talent on the football field when it comes to speed, agility, and toughness everywhere else in the state, but the mountains. Riding 4-wheelers and playing video games gets you a broke neck and fat.

Just out of curiosity are you from the mountains?? I mean come on to say that because of living in the mountains it automatically makes you a fat redneck?? Do you realize that last year, Durrell Olinger from Hazard broke some of Tim Couch's old QB stats and this year his little brother Tyler is supposedly going to be better?? Did you know that Daniel Pugh was one of the top QB's in the state last year in rushing?? Hmm....all of those guys were from mountian teams. Did you know that 3 out of the top 5 leading rushers and receivers were from mountain teams. --Colby Hoskins, John Cole, Daniel Harmon, Shawn Grimm, etc.... Wow, these are some pretty sucky players no quality at all, I guess theyre all fat rednecks who just ride fourwheelers and play video games. lmao Are you serious????

[BIGBLACK]

Yes I'm from the mountains. I'm just saying that they don't have the athletes to compete with the better teams in class A from around the state. The majority of the mountain kids work ethic and natural born talent left with the coal boom. Families move elsewhere to find jobs. That's life. Yes you still have some talented kids but they are far more spread out than kids from the greater Cincinnati area, Lexington, Louisville, Bowling Green, and Paducah.

[A Decent Lineman]

Yes I'm from the mountains. I'm just saying that they don't have the athletes to compete with the better teams in class A from around the state. The majority of the mountain kids work ethic and natural born talent left with the coal boom. Families move elsewhere to find jobs. That's life. Yes you still have some talented kids but they are far more spread out than kids from the greater Cincinnati area, Lexington, Louisville, Bowling Green, and Paducah.

Your right but the other powerhouse teams I mentioned, LCA, Mayfield, Beechwood, and Raceland. All of these teams are from these areas. There really arent any 1a schools left in these areas like Cincinnati, Lexington, and Lousiville. Beechwood, and LCA are about it from big cities because of the resizing of schools. Newport Central is gone, Danville is gone....who is left but Hazard, Pikeville, LCA, Beechwood, Mayfield, maybe Paintsville and Raceland that make playoffs year in and year out...IMO these will be the teams to beat next year.

[PantherPride68]

Yes I'm from the mountains.What a Sellout! LOL!

[BIGBLACK]

What a Sellout! LOL!

Not a sellout. I am not going to sit and sugar coat anything for anyone just to let them think they are something that they are not. Pikeville has had some good teams in the past several years, but when was the last time they competed with a school from one of the areas I mentioned. I'm not talking about just playing against them, I'm talking about putting them to a true test. It has almost been 10 years since Region 4's last victory against a Region 3 team in the playoffs. Now that the playoff system has changed and Beechwood has gone to Region 2, it is likely that sometime in the future a mountain team will make it back to Louisville. The main comment that I was arguing was that the first comment that I saw on this thread called Hazard and Pikeville "STATE POWERHOUSES." I am disagreeing with that statement and giving you reasons why they are not "STATE" powerhouses. Sure they may be the strong team or your so called "POWERHOUSE" in Region 4, but as compared to the rest of the state they are just lost dog playing in traffic on the middle of I-75. Now with that being said, provide me with your reasons that you should think Pikeville or Hazard is a state powerhouse. I'm not talking about just their region accomplishments either. What have they done against other teams from around the state to make the point that Region 4 has some of the best football? I don't think a lop-sided or on better terms, a 4 TD defeat in the State Semi-Finals proves anything to anyone. Until they actually defeat some of the better teams in Class A, all the noise that you think these teams are making is just that, noise. It doesn't mean anything to anyone else across the state.

[warriorpride]

Pikeville will but I dont know about Hazard

[PLAYBOY5]

Pikeville..YES
Hazard.....um..no!!!!

[Panther1]

Are these two 1A power houses a definite top 10 team in the state for the 07 season???

Interesting thread.

If it were the same make-up of teams in 1A as last year, I'd say Hazard -- by virtue of winning head-to-head their last meeting and both teams losing basically similar quantity/quality players (I think Pikeville returns almost all their skill -- except one shifty receiver...and Hazard returns all their skill except one shifty receiver; both lose two or three I think of their strongest linemen on both sides of the ball) would be in the bottom half of the top 10 and Pikeville on the outside looking in.

Too many question-marks at the qb spot...and don't they say, "you're only as good as your last game!?" If so, one would have to say that right now, Pikeville could not be considered very good -- probably played their 2nd or 3rd worst game of the season.

[PLAYBOY5]

Great post Panther!

[A Decent Lineman]

I believe hazard and pikeville have just as good or BETTER chances of going to the carpet or at least deep into the playoffs as any 1a team. But u know what???? WHO CARES!!!! Well let the play on the field do the talking next season...

[Panther Thunder]

I believe hazard and pikeville have just as good or BETTER chances of going to the carpet or at least deep into the playoffs as any 1a team. But u know what???? WHO CARES!!!! Well let the play on the field do the talking next season...

I think both teams should be more concerned about making it into the playoffs. Once you make it there then you still have 2 games before a PHS vs. HHS rematch. It by no means is guranteed to happen. So i think both teams should get their minds off Hazard - Pikeville and worry about their games that are scheduled. As i look at the schedules I don't see Hazard on Pikeville's or Pikeville on Hazard's ....With that being said i hope both teams do well and make it fr in the 07 playoffs!!!

[A Decent Lineman]

I think both teams should be more concerned about making it into the playoffs. Once you make it there then you still have 2 games before a PHS vs. HHS rematch. It by no means is guranteed to happen. So i think both teams should get their minds off Hazard - Pikeville and worry about their games that are scheduled. As i look at the schedules I don't see Hazard on Pikeville's or Pikeville on Hazard's ....With that being said i hope both teams do well and make it fr in the 07 playoffs!!!

U are right, Hazard does need to be concerned about their schedule because it is extremely hard!!! lol But no hazard does not play pikeville because they switched districts. Im sure hazard and pikeville will make playoffs, it is not that hard to make playoffs...haha...but either way well see what happens next season.

[Buckeyex7x]

ok i cant these 2 teams be a power house. Maybe in their regions but not in state compition. It would be great to see moutain teams make a stand and be known for A football but i reall dont see it happining.

[TRAIN85]

U are right, Hazard does need to be concerned about their schedule because it is extremely hard!!! lol But no hazard does not play pikeville because they switched districts. Im sure hazard and pikeville will make playoffs, it is not that hard to make playoffs...haha...but either way well see what happens next season.
What does Hazard's schedule look like for 2007?

[A Decent Lineman]

What does Hazard's schedule look like for 2007?

(no order)
1. @Letcher
2. PCC
3. @Lex. Christian
4. @Clay Co.
5. Lynn Camp
5. Cumberland
6. Evarts
7. Harlan
8. Pineville
9. Jenkins

Decent schedule....no easy games like Allen Central or anything....lol...but we'll try

[The Guru]

(no order)
1. @Letcher
2. PCC
3. @Lex. Christian
4. @Clay Co.
5. Lynn Camp
5. Cumberland
6. Evarts
7. Harlan
8. Pineville
9. Jenkins

Decent schedule....no easy games like Allen Central or anything....lol...but we'll try
Looks like a 6-4 year to me....They might not get consideration as a powerhouse in their own Dist. JMO

[A Decent Lineman]

Looks like a 6-4 year to me....They might not get consideration as a powerhouse in their own Dist. JMO

Y are u always hatin on us mayne??? Got no faith...yall will see nxt year.

[The Guru]

Y are u always hatin on us mayne??? Got no faith...yall will see nxt year.
Just an oppinion.....you all might win 7!!


What goes around comes around!!! LOL

[Buckeyex7x]

Man u are really full of your team(decent lineman). Hazard will not be a power house. Pikeville maybe!

[The Guru]

Man u are really full of your team(decent lineman). Hazard will not be a power house. Pikeville maybe!

I know.......I mean....he is just a self admitted "decent" lineman...LOL

[A Decent Lineman]

Aiight first of all....Pikeville has no room to talk about anybody...neither does Paintsville. Both of them lost last year in the playoffs. Paintsville in the regular season too... Second of all...actually it was a sarcastic joke about how everyone always hates hazard for some reason---admit it...we get no respect from neone. Third....what exactly are you a Guru on??? Wtf does my screen name have to do with nething....lol

[The Guru]

Aiight first of all....Pikeville has no room to talk about anybody...neither does Paintsville. Both of them lost last year in the playoffs. Paintsville in the regular season too... Second of all...actually it was a sarcastic joke about how everyone always hates hazard for some reason---admit it...we get no respect from neone. Third....what exactly are you a Guru on??? Wtf does my screen name have to do with nething....lol
ROFLMAO!!!
I love pulling your chain!!!

I am a Guru on everything... I know at least 2,000 words on any subject!

I kinda like reading your posts, mostly cause you seem to enjoy putting paintsville down!!
back in the day, when I played....Nobody ever heard of Hazard.

[A Decent Lineman]

ROFLMAO!!!
I love pulling your chain!!!

I am a Guru on everything... I know at least 2,000 words on any subject!

I kinda like reading your posts, mostly cause you seem to enjoy putting paintsville down!!
back in the day, when I played....Nobody ever heard of Hazard.

wot exactly does ROFLMAO mean??? I actually dont like putting paintsville down...I just speak my opinion and the truth. All that Ive ever said about Paintsville is that they wont be as good as previous years bcuz they lost too much in sublett and pugh, and that they will finish second in their district nxt year to pikeville. Wow, that is really putting down paintsville tho eh?? and back in the day when you played, they still wore leather helmets and no pads right???LOL

[punjabi_bulldog79]

Hazrd,paintsville,pikeville. Oh this brings back sweet memories of when paintsville rolled up in hazard at a regular season game and they were screamin D-CHAMPS. i guess the whippin they took didnt teach them this season that they shudnt overlook hazard. i guess pikeville forgot about the fact that the dawgs are even more dangerous when they are hurt, and the 42-6 whippin actualy inspired us to beat u all at pikeville in a very heartbreaking way. The tears i saw in both the ville's players eyes just made me realize that we had done somthing which nobody predicted for us to do, especialy u all. It sums up to this, if u wanna prove me wrong, paintsville has to step up and win the district, coz i know that we'll see one o y'all in region next year and i hope that my dawgs shut u all up once and for all

[The Guru]

Hazrd,paintsville,pikeville. Oh this brings back sweet memories of when paintsville rolled up in hazard at a regular season game and they were screamin D-CHAMPS. i guess the whippin they took didnt teach them this season that they shudnt overlook hazard. i guess pikeville forgot about the fact that the dawgs are even more dangerous when they are hurt, and the 42-6 whippin actualy inspired us to beat u all at pikeville in a very heartbreaking way. The tears i saw in both the ville's players eyes just made me realize that we had done somthing which nobody predicted for us to do, especialy u all. It sums up to this, if u wanna prove me wrong, paintsville has to step up and win the district, coz i know that we'll see one o y'all in region next year and i hope that my dawgs shut u all up once and for all
tell the truth now....you all cheated in both...LOL

[punjabi_bulldog79]

tell the truth now....you all cheated in both...LOL

i'm not even goin to get into this, because ignorant people start blaming other people for their defeats and you are one of the most ignorant and idiotic person ive met.

[The Guru]

i'm not even goin to get into this, because ignorant people start blaming other people for their defeats and you are one of the most ignorant and idiotic person ive met.
You have never met me....and if you had....you better get dad to talk to me like that....and he wouldn't dare.

[punjabi_bulldog79]

You have never met me....and if you had....you better get dad to talk to me like that....and he wouldn't dare.

alright i think yer gettin off topic now,and way out of line, dont get me started man. Dont go out for my family. all i have to say is we won the district, u all didnt, if u wanna do something about it then prove it on the field this trash talkin aint goin to help ya. its just gonna show how much of a sore loser u r. so shut up and get in the weight room and try to beat u snext year, and the kewy word is TRY,.

[A Decent Lineman]

You have never met me....and if you had....you better get dad to talk to me like that....and he wouldn't dare.

Guru...I thought we squashed this in a private message??? Website arguing is enough, now that is personal. Plz dont talk like that to my teammates....it could only be trouble for u ok??

[The Guru]

Guru...I thought we squashed this in a private message??? Website arguing is enough, now that is personal. Plz dont talk like that to my teammates....it could only be trouble for u ok??
Look...I made a joking comment, and it was obvious....then he calls me ignorant and idiotic??? Now that was uncalled for and personal!!!

[punjabi_bulldog79]

i apologize, now lets just end this and move on with new posts on this thread

[A Decent Lineman]

BGR....gets everyone riled up in a hurry tho eh??? hahah.....I think we should have a Paintsville vs. Hazard vs. Pikeville brawl and just take out all aggressions hahaha....nebody in???? lmfao but seriously lets get on with the thread

[The Guru]

i apologize, now lets just end this and move on with new posts on this thread
I accept and offer any appology to you!!










But you all cheated......................


.NOTE....This was a joke, only a joke, to be taken toungue in cheek!!!

[Panther#42]

(no order)
1. @Letcher
2. PCC
3. @Lex. Christian
4. @Clay Co.
5. Lynn Camp
5. Cumberland
6. Evarts
7. Harlan
8. Pineville
9. Jenkins

Decent schedule....no easy games like Allen Central or anything....lol...but we'll try

I can see Hazard going 10-0 at best, or 6-4 at worst, still making playoffs of course
I know Lex.Christian will be good, Letcher should be better next year, Harlan usually has a good D and Lynn Camp usually has a good year too
Those are the only team's that I could see to give Hazard trouble

[A Decent Lineman]

I can see Hazard going 10-0 at best, or 6-4 at worst, still making playoffs of course
I know Lex.Christian will be good, Letcher should be better next year, Harlan usually has a good D and Lynn Camp usually has a good year too
Those are the only team's that I could see to give Hazard trouble

Good post, Panther #42. What does yall's schedule look like for next year??

[Panther#42]

1. PCB Holy Cross (Covington) I think?
2.Ashalnd
3.Betsy Layne
4.Lexington Catholic
5.Allen Central
6.Belfry
7.South Floyd
8.Prestonsburg
9.Paintsville
10.Phelps

[Panther1]

1. PCB Holy Cross (Covington) I think?
2.Ashalnd
3.Betsy Layne
4.Lexington Catholic
5.Allen Central
6.Belfry
7.South Floyd
8.Prestonsburg
9.Paintsville
10.Phelps

That first game is against HC LOUISVILLE I believe I heard.

That has to be the TOUGHEST non-district schedule for a Single-A team (possible exception: Beechwood?)...it also has to be the WEAKEST district schedule for ANY class team.

[A Decent Lineman]

That first game is against HC LOUISVILLE I believe I heard.

That has to be the TOUGHEST non-district schedule for a Single-A team (possible exception: Beechwood?)...it also has to be the WEAKEST district schedule for ANY class team.

Have you seen hazard's schedule??

1. @ letcher
2. @ Lex. Christian
3. @ Clay Co.
4. Lynn Camp
5. Pcc
6. Cumberland
7. Evarts
8. Pineville
9. Harlan
10. Jenkins

I see Hazard and Pikeville as being a lot alike. We are both good teams...and we both return a lot next season...but lost a lot on the line. We have about the same schedule as far as difficulty, and are predicted to do big things in the playoffs. These two teams really compare out to be two of the top 1a teams in the mountains.

[Panther#42]

Have you seen hazard's schedule??

1. @ letcher
2. @ Lex. Christian
3. @ Clay Co.
4. Lynn Camp
5. Pcc
6. Cumberland
7. Evarts
8. Pineville
9. Harlan
10. Jenkins

I see Hazard and Pikeville as being a lot alike. We are both good teams...and we both return a lot next season...but lost a lot on the line. We have about the same schedule as far as difficulty, and are predicted to do big things in the playoffs. These two teams really compare out to be two of the top 1a teams in the mountains.

Good post ADLinemen, district scheduling, Hazard's is harder, but non-district scheduling Pikeville has to have the hardest....Proably the hardest in 1A, as said earlier by Panther1, Beechwood may have a harder non-district schedule

[A Decent Lineman]

Good post ADLinemen, district scheduling, Hazard's is harder, but non-district scheduling Pikeville has to have the hardest....Proably the hardest in 1A, as said earlier by Panther1, Beechwood may have a harder non-district schedule

Yea thnx #42...IMO yall will go 8-2 at worst...like us--with our losses to @Clay Co., and @LCA. Yours will be prolly to Holy Cross and Ashland...

[TidesHoss32]

ill give much credit to Pikeville...they DO NOT SLOUCH on scheduling. They cant help what schedule they have in the district, however when they jump out of the district, they always have one of the toughest non-district schedules in Eastern Kentucky..and i think this year a 7-3 Pikeville team is better than an 8-2 or 9-1 (if they are that good) Hazard team.

[A Decent Lineman]

ill give much credit to Pikeville...they DO NOT SLOUCH on scheduling. They cant help what schedule they have in the district, however when they jump out of the district, they always have one of the toughest non-district schedules in Eastern Kentucky..and i think this year a 7-3 Pikeville team is better than an 8-2 or 9-1 (if they are that good) Hazard team.

Well I personally think both teams will go 8-2, but hey we both could do better. Pikeville should win their district and so should Hazard...and IMO our schedules arent that much different...so I dont see how yall are better at 7-3 than us at 8-2??? But hey, w/e man, we'll see what happens next year.

[TRAIN85]

Hazard
LCC is decent at best But getting better.
LCA is getting better bu the year with their recruiting and such.
Clay has the states best passer back from '06 and should pretty good.
After that nobody worth a crap until Harlan
Pikeville
Louisville HC is a top ten team in 1A every year
Ashland is always competing for regional and state titles in 3A
Lex Cath is usually in or close to the championship game every year
Belfry enough said right there
Prestonsburg should be improved from last year in which they won a playoff game
Looks to me that those games alone are harder than what Hazard has scheduled. It is not a big deal to me because all I want is HC (Louisville).

[A Decent Lineman]

Hazard
LCC is decent at best But getting better.
LCA is getting better bu the year with their recruiting and such.
Clay has the states best passer back from '06 and should pretty good.
After that nobody worth a crap until Harlan
Pikeville
Louisville HC is a top ten team in 1A every year
Ashland is always competing for regional and state titles in 3A
Lex Cath is usually in or close to the championship game every year
Belfry enough said right there
Prestonsburg should be improved from last year in which they won a playoff game
Looks to me that those games alone are harder than what Hazard has scheduled. It is not a big deal to me because all I want is HC (Louisville).


Honestly, i could care less too....because non-district games really dont mean anything...it is how u do in your district and how you do in the playoffs right??

[The Dirty 1]

Are these two 1A power houses a definite top 10 team in the state for the 07 season???

Hazard isn't gonna be a 1A team in 07'

[The Guru]

Hazard isn't gonna be a 1A team in 07'
Uh........They are as of right now. They already have their schedule. They are 1A.

[A Decent Lineman]

Hazard isn't gonna be a 1A team in 07'

Yea, we will....lmao:Thumbs: