View Full Version : RUMOR---Starns Resigns!!
Warlock
02-03-2007, 09:57 PM
Coach Starns of Johnson Central resigned today. This explains why he wasnt at the game between Johnson Central and Pikeville tonight. I would imagion that Assistant Coach McKinzie will lead the Golden Eagles for the rest of this season with a new coach being named at a later date. A new coach at Johnson Central next season along with a new coach at Paintsville due to Coach Runion retirement after this season is over. The 57th is going to be shaken up for next season.
mcfan1
02-03-2007, 10:02 PM
Wow, I am shocked by this, I really thought after Starns won region last year he was the guy.
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 10:06 PM
Omg, cant believe Im reading this!
eaglehoops
02-03-2007, 10:10 PM
I'll keep everyone posted on this one. Give me about an hour and I'll have the full story. Don't read much into this just yet. I'll explain later, but this is going to shock a lot of people.
OffTheHook
02-03-2007, 10:11 PM
WOW! Oh Well. Same ole Same ole. Gonna make it even harder on the Eagles to finish the year.
BasketBallonlyfan
02-03-2007, 10:12 PM
The radio said he was sick. He was at the Pikeville/East Ridge game last night in a Johnson Central outfit scouting Pikeville.
eaglehoops
02-03-2007, 10:15 PM
Like I said don't read much into this... I'll keep you posted!
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 10:41 PM
Yeah man keep us updated, this is pretty shocking news if its true.
Waitin for Friday
02-03-2007, 10:43 PM
it's true.
firetubbyplease!
02-03-2007, 10:48 PM
I thought he was the GOLDEN boy!!! If this is true so much for having patience with a program.
BIGBLACK
02-03-2007, 10:50 PM
Shocking for it to come during the season. Why not wait it out? Who knows maybe Tommy can get something done with the boys.
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 10:53 PM
Shocking for it to come during the season. Why not wait it out? Who knows maybe Tommy can get something done with the boys.
Yeah, it would have been much better for his resignation to wait till after the season, but right in the heat of the season he leaves like he did, he has some explaining to do mainly to the players.
EKY Sportster
02-03-2007, 10:55 PM
Coach Starns of Johnson Central resigned today. This explains why he wasnt at the game between Johnson Central and Pikeville tonight. I would imagion that Assistant Coach McKinzie will lead the Golden Eagles for the rest of this season with a new coach being named at a later date. A new coach at Johnson Central next season along with a new coach at Paintsville due to Coach Runion retirement after this season is over. The 57th is going to be shaken up for next season.
I wouldn't count on BMR retiring at the end of THIS year! Wait and see. I don't think it will happen.
As for JCHS, not surprising that Starns resigned (if this is true). However, it does surprise me that he did so prior to the end of the season. It was not a secret that he wasn't thrilled to be here and I think that many Eagles felt the same way about him.
FOX SPORTS
02-03-2007, 10:59 PM
Starns resigning is to be considered RUMOR until substantiated.
I have spoken to several people from the Paintsville area and no one will go on the record.
Be very careful with this thread. You are messing with a teams season and a persons career. Again, be very careful and think twice before posting false, rumored, or slanderous information.
eaglehoops
02-03-2007, 11:04 PM
Okay, as of right now and I stress RIGHT NOW, Starns is still the coach of JCHS. The radio did say he was sick today, but my sources say he was meeting with someone about another coaching position, and its not high school related. I will dig deeper into this situation and let everyone know. Also, please know that I am posting only facts here, nothing false so please bear with me while I work on getting the info. I want to caution those who are in the know at JC to double check all their info because only a few ppl know about this situation. I'll post more when it becomes available.
BeaverCreek Connection
02-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Somebody call somebody; Call the mayor, call the judge, call the law! somebody has to know something. Uh, just kidding. All joking aside, I hope this is not true. This would be devestating to the JC Players.
EKY Sportster
02-03-2007, 11:09 PM
I don't see that it is a big deal either way. If he hasn't resigned, then I'm sure he will finish the season and then whatever happens at that point will happen. If he has resigned, the Eagles should be in as good a shape as they are going into the remainder of the season. They can't never be counted out, but aren't favored to do well. And if he has resigned, then I'm sure the JC administrators will find a suitable replacement.
IF TRUE, it is just puzzling about the timing!
BIGBLACK
02-03-2007, 11:13 PM
I hope its not true for the kids sake. Sure you may have a few knot heads, every team does, but I do not think its right for an adult to just leave the situation completely and wipe their hands clean of them. A coach has to be a role model for their players, if in fact he did leave it makes him classless. With success you have to be willing to take your bumps and it seems as if he wasn't willing to do the other.
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 11:14 PM
If its true, guess his patience ran out pretty quickly.
EKY Sportster
02-03-2007, 11:21 PM
Well lets not judge until we know for sure AND know the facts. There are SOME reasons that could justify a coach leaving in the middle of the season so to speak (although I doubt that they would apply here). But until we know for sure, lets just wait and see. But either way, I don't see the Eagles being any worse over it. JMO.
mcfan1
02-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Was Coach Starns on the hot seat?
eaglehoops
02-03-2007, 11:31 PM
Was Coach Starns on the hot seat?
Not really, he has however, given the administration many signs to believe he didn't want to be there. If true this is very classless of him and the fans and student athletes of JC should be very upset at the timing and handeling of this situation.
BIGBLACK
02-03-2007, 11:34 PM
If he did leave the program he belted like the Colts did from Baltimore. He left when the players and fans were no where to be found due to their game in Pikeville. In my opinion if you do not have the guts to tell the players why you are leaving and fail to thank the Board of Education, Site Base Coucil, and who ever else was involved in the hiring for the opprotunity, it makes you a coward.
eaglehoops
02-03-2007, 11:40 PM
If he did leave the program he belted like the Colts did from Baltimore. He left when the players and fans were no where to be found due to their game in Pikeville. In my opinion if you do not have the guts to tell the players why you are leaving and fail to thank the Board of Education, Site Base Coucil, and who ever else was involved in the hiring for the opprotunity, it makes you a coward.
I totally agree! :Thumbs:
mcfan1
02-03-2007, 11:41 PM
I have heard in the past that he and the administration never really clicked, I know if this is true it is a very unclassy move. Like BIGBLACK said, it is cowardly, abandoning a team that worked their tail off for him would be cowardly. Last year someone from over hear in Magoffin County asked someone from JC what they thought about their new coach, their response was, " Well....he's different."
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 11:52 PM
I have heard in the past that he and the administration never really clicked, I know if this is true it is a very unclassy move. Like BIGBLACK said, it is cowardly, abandoning a team that worked their tail off for him would be cowardly. Last year someone from over here in Magoffin County asked someone from JC what they thought about their new coach, their response was, " Well....he's different."
By the sounds of the way they said he was different, looks like they wasnt a big fan of him.
-STAT-
02-03-2007, 11:53 PM
Or they wasnt very confident in the way he coached.
SportsKrazee
02-04-2007, 12:04 AM
Well I'd love to know if this is true or just a rumor...
Lets get some facts from you eagle fans on here, if there is any known at this point..
A Decent Lineman
02-04-2007, 12:09 AM
WOW that is crazy, but hey...good luck with the Golden Eagles the rest of this season...I doubt it will affect them much....
Redneck
02-04-2007, 12:17 AM
Is this what kinda guy and coach Starnes is, when things aren't so great just give up, quit. As most of you know, I'm definately not an Eagle fan but I feel for those boys who have gave up ALOT for this guy, now he is turnin his back on em. That's a **** shame. Tommy will make a **** of a coach.
bulldog42
02-04-2007, 01:04 AM
They should have never run Trimble out of town! They stabbed a hometown boy in the back and now they are reeping what they sewed! Starnes went to Rupp with Trimble's kids. Now he sees what it's like there and is ready to get out of town. Sad thing is that the kids are the one's that have to suffer! I wonder if he leaves if the team will want any of the kids back that he ran off? That could be a huge difference for JC!
I had heard before that Morehead might be in his cards down the road with Tindal but that might just be a rumor.
BondJamesBond
02-04-2007, 01:15 AM
Have to agree bulldog, Trimble was a good fit for J.C. and if you were to poll most of the hall of Fame inductees they would agree also..yet, they are not the ones making the decisions. IMO, that is what is wrong with high school sports today...
Don't really know for sure if Starns has resigned, if so, seems to me he is taking a chance of throwing away a coaching career, who is going to hire someone who resigns during the season?
ducky
02-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Where's Eagle Eye??? He's a Starn's fan and chairman of the cheering section. He should have the facts!! Eagle Eye...give us a fly by!!! lol...
wetones45
02-04-2007, 09:46 AM
Starns did indeed quit his job, I was from the head honcho now anyway. He's ran out on the kids after running numerous players off, leaving coach McKenzie with the job. Starns is a coward in my book and has hurt alot of kids. I'll tell details later.
Batpuff
02-04-2007, 09:59 AM
They should have never run Trimble out of town! They stabbed a hometown boy in the back and now they are reeping what they sewed! Starnes went to Rupp with Trimble's kids. Now he sees what it's like there and is ready to get out of town. Sad thing is that the kids are the one's that have to suffer! I wonder if he leaves if the team will want any of the kids back that he ran off? That could be a huge difference for JC!
I had heard before that Morehead might be in his cards down the road with Tindal but that might just be a rumor.
Bulldawg42 I agree Trimble was a great coach and was highly respected by most of the JC family and was run out of town. I dont know what the reason was for the firing of him and all I can say is that he is a one class act and love for him to be back in the LC program but our own school adminstration is so out of wack itself right now.
BasketBallonlyfan
02-04-2007, 10:08 AM
After reading a bunch of these posts, I will put my two cents in now. I read in more than one that people at Johnson Central wasnt to happy with his coaching style. I read in another that he may be coaching at the college level. You know, there is such a thing as doing what you think is best for yourself and your family. I am sure that he cared about his players, but I wouldnt care to bet that he cares about his own kids if he has any more. In this thread and others it sounded like he was going to be ran off anyways. If he had a offer that he thinks is in his and his familys best interest to take, then he should have.
Dont get me wrong, I am not taking up for him, or putting him down for it, if he did leave then it is his decision. Schools are known for getting rid of coaches. There are coaching changes every year at one school or another. I personally think if he did go, there is only one person who knows what made him make the decision to leave Johnson Central, and that is the man himself. So unless there is a mind reader, I dont think he should be judged on a anonymous web site. Coaches are public figures, but they also have a private life that I am sure they want to be kept private.
ducky
02-04-2007, 10:30 AM
After reading a bunch of these posts, I will put my two cents in now. I read in more than one that people at Johnson Central wasnt to happy with his coaching style. I read in another that he may be coaching at the college level. You know, there is such a thing as doing what you think is best for yourself and your family. I am sure that he cared about his players, but I wouldnt care to bet that he cares about his own kids if he has any more. In this thread and others it sounded like he was going to be ran off anyways. If he had a offer that he thinks is in his and his familys best interest to take, then he should have.
Dont get me wrong, I am not taking up for him, or putting him down for it, if he did leave then it is his decision. Schools are known for getting rid of coaches. There are coaching changes every year at one school or another. I personally think if he did go, there is only one person who knows what made him make the decision to leave Johnson Central, and that is the man himself. So unless there is a mind reader, I dont think he should be judged on a anonymous web site. Coaches are public figures, but they also have a private life that I am sure they want to be kept private.That's the biggest bunch of crap I've read in a long time. You don't...I repeat..You don't leave your team during the course of the season unless you die or are asked to resign. He's not dead and he wasn't asked to resign and he **** sure isn't leaving to coach the Celtics.
rooster
02-04-2007, 10:49 AM
Bulldawg42 I agree Trimble was a great coach and was highly respected by most of the JC family and was run out of town. I dont know what the reason was for the firing of him and all I can say is that he is a one class act and love for him to be back in the LC program but our own school adminstration is so out of wack itself right now.Dont think that was the problem. I think it goes pretty deep.
BasketBallonlyfan
02-04-2007, 11:01 AM
That's the biggest bunch of crap I've read in a long time. You don't...I repeat..You don't leave your team during the course of the season unless you die or are asked to resign. He's not dead and he wasn't asked to resign and he **** sure isn't leaving to coach the Celtics.
So, dont you think a person should look out for his family more than anyone or anything else? I am pretty sure he talked to his wife and kids if he has them about his decision. I bet he is more worried about what they think and his own well being than what "ducky" thinks. I would be willing to bet that you dont know 1% of the whole story so why are you so willing to judge someone that you might not even know personally. I would even be willing to bet that you wont even find out 50% of the whole story personally. Not hearing one thing from someone and another thing from someone else.
The fact is, people have to make decisions in their life. Some are easy, some not so easy. A person just has to do what he thinks is best for his own welfare and the welfare of his family. Even if it makes you out to look like a coward or whatever else you want to call them over a internet connection.
EKY Sportster
02-04-2007, 11:27 AM
The fact is, people have to make decisions in their life. Some are easy, some not so easy. A person just has to do what he thinks is best for his own welfare and the welfare of his family. Even if it makes you out to look like a coward or whatever else you want to call them over a internet connection.
Maybe so, but I don't know of a decision that would make it necessary to quit at this point in the season! Even if he took another job, it is still toward the end of the season and I doubt that he would start immediately!
But I do agree that we should all wait until we know the facts more before jumping to conclusions.
horseman
02-04-2007, 11:28 AM
Lets not bash the man until you know the real story. You are talking about a human that has feelings with a wife and kids. Alot of people are on here bashing him but you all were behind him last year when they won the 15th region and went to the sweet 16. Everything is great when you are winning but when you lose everybody wants to throw darts at you.
Old School
02-04-2007, 12:28 PM
Bulldawg42 I agree Trimble was a great coach and was highly respected by most of the JC family and was run out of town. I dont know what the reason was for the firing of him and all I can say is that he is a one class act and love for him to be back in the LC program but our own school adminstration is so out of wack itself right now.
Why did he leave Lawrence Co. ???
Johnson Cent. could be the best job in the region.
But until the FANS, PARENTS, and ADMIN. let a coach come in and do HIS job this is what your going to get.
Starnes is a good coach, and you guys were going to run him off this year after he took you to RUPP.
Trimble was a good coach, and you ran him off after a regional semifinal year.
You Johnson Cent. fans need to make up your mind, either you play who the "powers to be" want played and hae a year like this year or you play the best players and get rid of kids who have problems and won't listen and win NEXT year.
bball fan
02-04-2007, 01:31 PM
JC has the biggest school in the region, first class facilities that are about to become even better, and some of the greatest people in the world inside their school system.
BUT..... the JC athletic program has problems right now! It is obvious that the success of the football program has absolutely destroyed the basketball morale to the point that Coach Starnes is fed up with the no-win situation. He may not have the best personality in the world but he is a great person and great coach. He obviously thinks he isn't getting the support that he was promised so he felt his best option was to stop fighting it. The freshmen team dropped the rest of their games because they didn't have enough players and the JV team is down to 6 players. This is from arguably the best feeder system in the state with the way Johnson County has it's athletic programs set up. They have no business not being near the top in every sport, every year..period!!!! If Johnson Central wants whats best for ALL of it's athletic teams, someone needs to take charge of the athletic program and get everyone striving towards the same goal, not cutting the throat of their own people!!
OffTheHook
02-04-2007, 01:31 PM
They should have never run Trimble out of town! They stabbed a hometown boy in the back and now they are reeping what they sewed! Starnes went to Rupp with Trimble's kids. Now he sees what it's like there and is ready to get out of town. Sad thing is that the kids are the one's that have to suffer! I wonder if he leaves if the team will want any of the kids back that he ran off? That could be a huge difference for JC!
I had heard before that Morehead might be in his cards down the road with Tindal but that might just be a rumor.
He is not the only one they did that to. They also did that to the long time Wrestling Coach Darren Gamble this year and gave the job to Matney. Heard they brought Gamble into the office the same way they did Les. Who knows they may have asked Starnes to resign also.
JC has the biggest school in the region, first class facilities that are about to become even better, and some of the greatest people in the world inside their school system.
BUT..... the JC athletic program has problems right now! It is obvious that the success of the football program has absolutely destroyed the basketball morale to the point that Coach Starnes is fed up with the no-win situation. He may not have the best personality in the world but he is a great person and great coach. He obviously thinks he isn't getting the support that he was promised so he felt his best option was to stop fighting it. The freshmen team dropped the rest of their games because they didn't have enough players and the JV team is down to 6 players. This is from arguably the best feeder system in the state with the way Johnson County has it's athletic programs set up. They have no business not being near the top in every sport, every year..period!!!! If Johnson Central wants whats best for ALL of it's athletic teams, someone needs to take charge of the athletic program and get everyone striving towards the same goal, not cutting the throat of their own people!!
Football and Basketball can co-exist, sadly most schools in the 15th do not want it that way.
Golden Eagle
02-04-2007, 02:06 PM
He is not the only one they did that to. They also did that to the long time Wrestling Coach Darren Gamble this year and gave the job to Matney. Heard they brought Gamble into the office the same way they did Les. Who knows they may have asked Starnes to resign also.
They didn't force Coach G to resign and thats the facts. Coach G was the wrestling coach for the first month of the season and when he won the election this fall he told me himself that he didn't have enough time to do it all and he stepped down as wrestling coach at Johnson Central. This is also what he told the entire team. Why don't you get your facts straight before you get on here and shoot your mouth off about subjects that you don't have the first clue about. I don't know about the Starnes situation but I do know what happened with the wrestling team and you are very wrong. Also why do you care so much what goes on at Johnson Central? You've switched sides so why do you care?
horseman
02-04-2007, 02:11 PM
Matney must not get along with anybody in the other sports programs unless its football or wrestling. If you are going to have a strong sports program all the programs need to work together not let one rule the others.
Golden Eagle
02-04-2007, 02:15 PM
They should have never run Trimble out of town! They stabbed a hometown boy in the back and now they are reeping what they sewed! Starnes went to Rupp with Trimble's kids. Now he sees what it's like there and is ready to get out of town. Sad thing is that the kids are the one's that have to suffer! I wonder if he leaves if the team will want any of the kids back that he ran off? That could be a huge difference for JC!
I had heard before that Morehead might be in his cards down the road with Tindal but that might just be a rumor.
......
Golden Eagle
02-04-2007, 02:21 PM
Matney must not get along with anybody in the other sports programs unless its football or wrestling. If you are going to have a strong sports program all the programs need to work together not let one rule the others.This is far from the truth. Ask Shawn Hall, Joey Estep,Phillip Wireman, or Coach McCool if this is the case. Like I told another poster know what your talking about before you chime in on a subject.
OffTheHook
02-04-2007, 02:38 PM
They didn't force Coach G to resign and thats the facts. Coach G was the wrestling coach for the first month of the season and when he won the election this fall he told me himself that he didn't have enough time to do it all and he stepped down as wrestling coach at Johnson Central. This is also what he told the entire team. Why don't you get your facts straight before you get on here and shoot your mouth off about subjects that you don't have the first clue about. I don't know about the Starnes situation but I do know what happened with the wrestling team and you are very wrong. Also why do you care so much what goes on at Johnson Central? You've switched sides so why do you care?
Just repeating what came directly from a VERY close family member. Nobody is spouting off at the mouth. That may be what happened. But, knowing Coach G the way I do. He is going to do nothing but support his school and not cause waves. Top Notch Guy. I care because I do nothing but support the kids in this ENTIRE county, NOT just on one side of the creek, and I hate to see any of them have to go through these things.
bulldog42
02-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Sad situation. They should look at Matney's success on the girdiorn and just let the coaches coach. I really hate it for the kids there!
This is no longer a rumor. Starns DID RESIGN. Just talked to a Johnson County board member about it. I believe he had a fallout with someone in the administration. But this is still no excuse to leave a team during a troubling season. I hope his resume takes a plunge after what happened.
-STAT-
02-04-2007, 02:45 PM
Wow.
Baller3
02-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Just let Matney coach b-ball too since everyone thinks he so good!
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Golden Eagle
02-04-2007, 02:51 PM
I got new for you *****! I've never tried to hide who I am! You won't catch me talking smack about your family over the internet, pretty classy man! This is about what has happened to the guys that have been successful at JC and then outside forces have forced them out of town.
It's a shame because there are a lot of good folks there that I care about.. Eddie Blair, Harry Burchette, Stu Cook, Glenn Reeves, Bugs, Pooh etc but too many outsiders are controling the basketball program there and it has hurt the kids in the end!
JC should have the top sports team in all sports in Eastern KY. Coach Matney has been a good example of what can happen if people just leave them alone and let them coach.
Golden Eagle!
JC should be the most successful program in all sports in Eastern KY! You see what happened when Matney came in and didn't let the others around Your right the people you mentioned above are good folks.
Cards09
02-04-2007, 03:08 PM
surprising
Diogenes
02-04-2007, 03:08 PM
Just let Matney coach b-ball too since everyone thinks he so good!
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What does Matney have to do with any of this?
Matney encourages his players to play multiple sports. And what Mark Starns does has little or nothing to do with what Jim Matney does. I can guarantee you that no Eagle fan wants to see this basketball program fail, and that the success of football should only feed the success of other sports within the same school.
Regarding Starns, the occasional personality conflict is understandable and unavoidable. You lose one or two kids because you don't get along with them or they don't buy the system or the discipline, fine. But when you manage to run them off en masse and deplete your roster to the point that Central has...
As a wise man once told me, "The only common element in all your dysfunctional relationships is you."
I just hope the highschool career of Jesse Meek can re-continue now that he is gone. Starns was not very good socially, and his inability to converse with the community and players may have been why he wanted to leave.
gamestopper11
02-04-2007, 05:02 PM
everyone loved Coach Starns last year when they won the regional tournament....Wat happened?
Baller3
02-04-2007, 05:23 PM
What does Matney have to do with any of this?
Matney encourages his players to play multiple sports. And what Mark Starns does has little or nothing to do with what Jim Matney does. I can guarantee you that no Eagle fan wants to see this basketball program fail, and that the success of football should only feed the success of other sports within the same school.
Regarding Starns, the occasional personality conflict is understandable and unavoidable. You lose one or two kids because you don't get along with them or they don't buy the system or the discipline, fine. But when you manage to run them off en masse and deplete your roster to the point that Central has...
As a wise man once told me, "The only common element in all your dysfunctional relationships is you."
Were you blasting Starns last year when JC went to the Sweet 16? So in one year he went from surprising everyone and winning the 15th Region to being a horrible coach and running everyone off en masse? Doesn't make sense to me but what do I know. Maybe Matney could rock the EagleGymnasium like he does EagleField. Look what he has done for the football program. So why does it always have to be the coach's fault?
#1TigerFan
02-04-2007, 05:41 PM
everyone loved Coach Starns last year when they won the regional tournament....Wat happened?
It's called the JC Phenomena. A coach has a bad season and they cut his throat. They only love them when they win. The first sign of trouble and they are out, or at least made to feel EXTREMELY unwelcome. Last year, they were ready to erect a statue and rename the gym. One tough season and they want their $$ back. Just ask Trimble.
I can't wait until another school wants Matney and offers up more cash. He loves the school while he's there, but the second another program offers top cash, he bails. Maybe then JC will know how it feels to be expendable and dropped as soon as the next best thing walks by.
Typical JC drama. :popcorn: I support both schools in the area, but until their Admin's mentality creeps above that of a five year old, they will keep getting mad and taking their ball and going home. :rolleyes:
Old School
02-04-2007, 06:00 PM
It's called the JC Phenomena. A coach has a bad season and they cut his throat. They only love them when they win. The first sign of trouble and they are out, or at least made to feel EXTREMELY unwelcome. Last year, they were ready to erect a statue and rename the gym. One tough season and they want their $$ back. Just ask Trimble.
I can't wait until another school wants Matney and offers up more cash. He loves the school while he's there, but the second another program offers top cash, he bails. Maybe then JC will know how it feels to be expendable and dropped as soon as the next best thing walks by.
Typical JC drama. :popcorn: I support both schools in the area, but until their Admin's mentality creeps above that of a five year old, they will keep getting mad and taking their ball and going home. :rolleyes:
By your post you are saying that Starns was fired, the rumors indicate that he resigned on his own. As far as you supporting both schools is hilairous! What about the typical drama at P'ville when Lemaster brought in Chuke to take over when he resigned. BMR didn't want Chuke to have the head coaching position so he took it for 1 year. IMO if P'ville would have hired Chuke their program would be in a lot better shape today.
Baller3
02-04-2007, 06:03 PM
By your post you are saying that Starns was fired, the rumors indicate that he resigned on his own. As far as you supporting both schools is hilairous! What about the typical drama at P'ville when Lemaster brought in Chuke to take over when he resigned. BMR didn't want Chuke to have the head coaching position so he took it for 1 year. IMO if P'ville would have hired Chuke their program would be in a lot better shape today.
Wow did you ask this or did your bingo buddy tell you this info? There's more drama at JC than on Days of our Lives. Back in the OLD SCHOOL days parents didn't let their kids quit when the going got tough either.
The Guru
02-04-2007, 06:07 PM
By your post you are saying that Starns was fired, the rumors indicate that he resigned on his own. As far as you supporting both schools is hilairous! What about the typical drama at P'ville when Lemaster brought in Chuke to take over when he resigned. BMR didn't want Chuke to have the head coaching position so he took it for 1 year. IMO if P'ville would have hired Chuke their program would be in a lot better shape today.
What was so "typical" about that? It has only happened at Paintsville 1 time in over a hundred years. BTW....What the **** does it have to do with Starns stepping down?
Old School
02-04-2007, 06:16 PM
[QUOTE=The Guru]What was so "typical" about that? It has only happened at Paintsville 1 time in over a hundred years. BTW....What the **** does it have to do with Starns stepping down?[/QUOTE
About the same as (#1tiger fan) talking about Matney in his post #62 Nothing
Old School
02-04-2007, 06:21 PM
Wow did you ask this or did your bingo buddy tell you this info? There's more drama at JC than on Days of our Lives. Back in the OLD SCHOOL days parents didn't let their kids quit when the going got tough either.
So I suppose that there is never drama going on at P'ville.:rolleyes: I will give P'ville credit they are experts at sweeping things under the rug!!:dontthink
ducky
02-04-2007, 06:25 PM
JC has the biggest school in the region, first class facilities that are about to become even better, and some of the greatest people in the world inside their school system.
BUT..... the JC athletic program has problems right now! It is obvious that the success of the football program has absolutely destroyed the basketball morale to the point that Coach Starnes is fed up with the no-win situation. He may not have the best personality in the world but he is a great person and great coach. He obviously thinks he isn't getting the support that he was promised so he felt his best option was to stop fighting it. The freshmen team dropped the rest of their games because they didn't have enough players and the JV team is down to 6 players. This is from arguably the best feeder system in the state with the way Johnson County has it's athletic programs set up. They have no business not being near the top in every sport, every year..period!!!! If Johnson Central wants whats best for ALL of it's athletic teams, someone needs to take charge of the athletic program and get everyone striving towards the same goal, not cutting the throat of their own people!!Great post...
Baller3
02-04-2007, 06:46 PM
So I suppose that there is never drama going on at P'ville.:rolleyes: I will give P'ville credit they are experts at sweeping things under the rug!!:dontthinkI don't know, I'm not from Paintsville, so you tell me. It's just everytime you turn around, there's a soap opera at JC.:)
-STAT-
02-04-2007, 07:22 PM
JC has the biggest school in the region, first class facilities that are about to become even better, and some of the greatest people in the world inside their school system.
BUT..... the JC athletic program has problems right now! It is obvious that the success of the football program has absolutely destroyed the basketball morale to the point that Coach Starnes is fed up with the no-win situation. He may not have the best personality in the world but he is a great person and great coach. He obviously thinks he isn't getting the support that he was promised so he felt his best option was to stop fighting it. The freshmen team dropped the rest of their games because they didn't have enough players and the JV team is down to 6 players. This is from arguably the best feeder system in the state with the way Johnson County has it's athletic programs set up. They have no business not being near the top in every sport, every year..period!!!! If Johnson Central wants whats best for ALL of it's athletic teams, someone needs to take charge of the athletic program and get everyone striving towards the same goal, not cutting the throat of their own people!!
This is an awesome post!
THOMCAT
02-04-2007, 07:59 PM
It's called the JC Phenomena. A coach has a bad season and they cut his throat. They only love them when they win. The first sign of trouble and they are out, or at least made to feel EXTREMELY unwelcome. Last year, they were ready to erect a statue and rename the gym. One tough season and they want their $$ back. Just ask Trimble.
I can't wait until another school wants Matney and offers up more cash. He loves the school while he's there, but the second another program offers top cash, he bails. Maybe then JC will know how it feels to be expendable and dropped as soon as the next best thing walks by.
Typical JC drama. :popcorn: I support both schools in the area, but until their Admin's mentality creeps above that of a five year old, they will keep getting mad and taking their ball and going home. :rolleyes:
Just ask Trimble??? Why don't you ask Paintsville's administration what they did to former star athlete and coach Burrhead Lemaster.
The Guru
02-04-2007, 08:05 PM
Just ask Trimble??? Why don't you ask Paintsville's administration what they did to former star athlete and coach Burrhead Lemaster.
What did they do???
Take him out of the classroom, give him an admin. pos. and a Pay raise. He is much more able to take care of his family now.
Sure he liked Coaching, but, Coaching is not the be all end all. Sure some like to think that being a coach is the greatest accomplishment there is, but in reality, it's just a job and if you can make more money by not coaching, then why not?
ducky
02-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Just ask Trimble??? Why don't you ask Paintsville's administration what they did to former star athlete and coach Burrhead Lemaster.Don't turn this into a Paintsville vs. JC thread please. This is about Starn's and his resignation. Any more information???
#1TigerFan
02-04-2007, 08:13 PM
By your post you are saying that Starns was fired, the rumors indicate that he resigned on his own. As far as you supporting both schools is hilairous! What about the typical drama at P'ville when Lemaster brought in Chuke to take over when he resigned. BMR didn't want Chuke to have the head coaching position so he took it for 1 year. IMO if P'ville would have hired Chuke their program would be in a lot better shape today.
We have 2 great schools systems in Paintsville. Yes, I support both. Some of us are mature enough to do so.
I never implied Starns was fired. I said some were made to feel "extremely unwelcome". Maybe he resigned because he'd had enough with going from the Golden boy to the step child. Granted no one should ever quit. I beleive in seeing it through to the end.
If Paintsville had hired Chuke, my screen name would be #1Eagle Fan. Chuke has been in trouble everywhere he's ever coached. He screwed LeMaster over. He talked LeMaster into bringing him in and then ran him off. Runyon did the right thing. Glad to see Chuke go. If you like him so much, you can hire him in two years when Matney leaves.
Armchair QB
02-04-2007, 08:19 PM
We have 2 great schools systems in Paintsville. Yes, I support both. Some of us are mature enough to do so.
I never implied Starns was fired. I said some were made to feel "extremely unwelcome". Maybe he resigned because he'd had enough with going from the Golden boy to the step child. Granted no one should ever quit. I beleive in seeing it through to the end.
If Paintsville had hired Chuke, my screen name would be #1Eagle Fan. Chuke has been in trouble everywhere he's ever coached. He screwed LeMaster over. He talked LeMaster into bringing him in and then ran him off. Runyon did the right thing. Glad to see Chuke go. If you like him so much, you can hire him in two years when Matney leaves.\\
There you going supporting JC again. Thanks for the help.
The Dirty 1
02-04-2007, 08:21 PM
This sounds about right... The JCHS people arent the brightest bunch...lol
who is there Athletic director anyway?
mcfan1
02-04-2007, 08:25 PM
^I'm not from JC, but you are not to bright for saying that. JCHS is a great school and there's probably not a credible reason to say that they are not bright, every place has morons.
Old School
02-04-2007, 08:27 PM
[QUOTE=#1TigerFan]It's called the JC Phenomena. A coach has a bad season and they cut his throat. They only love them when they win. The first sign of trouble and they are out, or at least made to feel EXTREMELY unwelcome. Last year, they were ready to erect a statue and rename the gym. One tough season and they want their $$ back.
Is that is not implying that the was fired?
The Dirty 1
02-04-2007, 08:28 PM
^I'm not from JC, but you are not to bright for saying that. JCHS is a great school and there's probably not a credible reason to say that they are not bright, every place has morons.
ur right im sorry... But JCHS just has alot more morons than the average school
Keep this thread on track or it will be closed!!!
ur right im sorry... But JCHS just has alot more morons than the average school
Better watch who your callin a Moron there buddy!!!
Buckeyex7x
02-04-2007, 08:42 PM
Better watch who your callin a Moron there buddy!!!
What are you gonna do about it...lol
Wyatt Earp
02-04-2007, 08:44 PM
We will have alot of speculation as to why this happened or that happened when something like this discussion takes place. It is ok to air things out and discuss but there is no need to call anyone names or make references that are not needed. That is probably all I have to say about that.
EYES ON YOU
02-04-2007, 10:11 PM
Why blame Starns for leaving?Right now the only thing they really care about at JC is the football program.I hope that coach Mckenzie and the rest of the coaching staff will get plenty of support from the administration as well as the fans and the local community!! This is a sad situation right now, but things will get better!!!
Matney's Prodigey
02-04-2007, 10:28 PM
WOW. I for one am loving this......
eaglehoops
02-04-2007, 10:28 PM
This is no longer a rumor! Coach Starns has resigned and it is effective right away. He has not explained his action to his players at this point and it remains to be seen if he will. This was totally his doing and had nothing to do with pressure from the admin. or parents. IMO this was a classless move and will look bad on any future resumes he may file. However, I would like to wish him good luck in his future endevors and hopefully JC can move on and forget about the classless thing he did to our kids and community. Those guys deserve better and just when things got tought thier leader split! I guess this goes to show us all what kind of person Mark Starns really is! I supported him until now and have defended his actions many times. No matter what move he is making I firmly believe what he did was wrong and nothing will change my mind! Hopefully Tommy Mckenzie and the rest of the staff will get things turned around and compete for a regional title once again. Good luck to the players and the rest of the coaches! BTW, maybe I am a moron but I don't get on here and call other ppl names and I think you owe all Johnson Countians an apology! Thanks :Thumbs:
Diogenes
02-04-2007, 11:55 PM
This sounds about right... The JCHS people arent the brightest bunch...lol
who is there Athletic director anyway?
* 2006 Class AAA state semi-finalists, 13-1 record.
* 2006 15th Region boys basketball champs.
* 2004 baseball state final four.
Yeah. What do they know about sports anyway?
And who says Starns was fired? It sounds as if he left of his own free will to me.
rooster
02-05-2007, 12:02 AM
It's called the JC Phenomena. A coach has a bad season and they cut his throat. They only love them when they win. The first sign of trouble and they are out, or at least made to feel EXTREMELY unwelcome. Last year, they were ready to erect a statue and rename the gym. One tough season and they want their $$ back. Just ask Trimble.
I can't wait until another school wants Matney and offers up more cash. He loves the school while he's there, but the second another program offers top cash, he bails. Maybe then JC will know how it feels to be expendable and dropped as soon as the next best thing walks by.
Typical JC drama. :popcorn: I support both schools in the area, but until their Admin's mentality creeps above that of a five year old, they will keep getting mad and taking their ball and going home. :rolleyes:Yeah right, you support both schools. You hate Central with a passion, so why even post junk like that? Just last week you blasted the administration at JC about something you know absolutely nothing about and was totally false and then tried to cover it up. ( Oh I forgot, that was your St. Bernard doing the talking and you actually was talking about Sheldon Clark.) Now your doing the same thing again about something that you dont know the first tidly about.
You have just about worn out the Matney stuff over the last couple of years. Give it a rest and get a life on that one.
Funny thing that you weren't blasting Bill Mike when he walked out and quit on his team last year. I remember the story of the kids going over to his house to beg him to come back. How come that wasn't the fault of the Paintsville Admin, and this is? Dont want to talk about that I guess.
From what I am reading on here Starns resigned , he was not fired or forced out. Do you have first hand information about anything that has taken place? I doubt it!!
Typical JC drama? I dont think that anything can match the 3 ring circus that has enveloped the Paintsville football program and the backstabbing that has taken place there the last couple of years. Of course you dont want to talk about that either do you?
It seems that trying to find something to blast JC about has totally consumed your every thought process. Why do you feel that you constantly have to do that? Did an eagle attack you when you were little and you now have nightmares about it , or what?
eaglehoops
02-05-2007, 12:07 AM
Yeah right, you support both schools. You hate Central with a passion, so why even post junk like that? Just last week you blasted the administration at JC about something you know absolutely nothing about and was totally false and then tried to cover it up. ( Oh I forgot, that was your St. Bernard doing the talking and you actually was talking about Sheldon Clark.) Now your doing the same thing again about something that you dont know the first tidly about.
You have just about worn out the Matney stuff over the last couple of years. Give it a rest and get a life on that one.
Funny thing that you weren't blasting Bill Mike when he walked out and quit on his team last year. I remember the story of the kids going over to his house to beg him to come back. How come that wasn't the fault of the Paintsville Admin, and this is? Dont want to talk about that I guess.
From what I am reading on here Starns resigned , he was not fired or forced out. Do you have first hand information about anything that has taken place? I doubt it!!
Typical JC drama? I dont think that anything can match the 3 ring circus that has enveloped the Paintsville football program and the backstabbing that has taken place there the last couple of years. Of course you dont want to talk about that either do you?
It seems that trying to find something to blast JC about has totally consumed your every thought process. Why do you feel that you constantly have to do that? Did an eagle attack you when you were little and you now have nightmares about it , or what?
:Thumbs: :Thumbs: :Thumbs: :Thumbs: You totally ROCK!!! Great post!
BIGBLACK
02-05-2007, 01:30 AM
Great post firebird.
BIGBLACK
02-05-2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah right, you support both schools. You hate Central with a passion, so why even post junk like that? Just last week you blasted the administration at JC about something you know absolutely nothing about and was totally false and then tried to cover it up. ( Oh I forgot, that was your St. Bernard doing the talking and you actually was talking about Sheldon Clark.) Now your doing the same thing again about something that you dont know the first tidly about.
You have just about worn out the Matney stuff over the last couple of years. Give it a rest and get a life on that one.
Funny thing that you weren't blasting Bill Mike when he walked out and quit on his team last year. I remember the story of the kids going over to his house to beg him to come back. How come that wasn't the fault of the Paintsville Admin, and this is? Dont want to talk about that I guess.
From what I am reading on here Starns resigned , he was not fired or forced out. Do you have first hand information about anything that has taken place? I doubt it!!
Typical JC drama? I dont think that anything can match the 3 ring circus that has enveloped the Paintsville football program and the backstabbing that has taken place there the last couple of years. Of course you dont want to talk about that either do you?
It seems that trying to find something to blast JC about has totally consumed your every thought process. Why do you feel that you constantly have to do that? Did an eagle attack you when you were little and you now have nightmares about it , or what?
Words have never been as true as these. Both sides have had their fair share of complications. No reason for anyone to kick the other when they are down. I do not agree with the choice that Starns has made, however I'm very sure that Johnson Central will do a great job of choosing the teams next head coach, whether it be Tommy McKenzie or not.
The Fan
02-05-2007, 03:28 AM
get Johnny Ray turner back he cut a deal and is not going to pull any time
Wyatt Earp
02-05-2007, 04:46 AM
I would not think JRT would have very much interest in coaching at Johnson Central or any other school.
thedarkside
02-05-2007, 09:46 AM
Tommy is the best young coach in the state johnson central people dont even know how good this is going to work out for them. i played college ball with him and he is by far the smartest player i ever seen or played with. So to all those jc fans trust me this is a good thing.
Redneck
02-05-2007, 10:38 AM
Tommy is the best young coach in the state johnson central people dont even know how good this is going to work out for them. i played college ball with him and he is by far the smartest player i ever seen or played with. So to all those jc fans trust me this is a good thing.
What are you basing that on. What has Tommy done from a coaching stand point that makes him the best young coach in the state. I'm not gonna disagree about it being a good thing for JC cause it will be IMO. I think the players will respond to him more. He definately knows the game, he was a great player and very smart.
As for those of you hoping Tommy will bring Jesse Meeks back, he doesn't deserve another chance. He was the one who QUIT then team, why would they want a player like that.
IISnakE
02-05-2007, 10:43 AM
I wasn't gonna post on this thread because I believe the less said, the better. However, I do believe I remember a faction wanting Tommy McKenzie when Starns was hired. I agree with thedarkside.... this is a good thing. I hope the school jumps onboard and supports the new coach and the boys! They deserve it.
eaglehoops
02-05-2007, 11:14 AM
What are you basing that on. What has Tommy done from a coaching stand point that makes him the best young coach in the state. I'm not gonna disagree about it being a good thing for JC cause it will be IMO. I think the players will respond to him more. He definately knows the game, he was a great player and very smart.
As for those of you hoping Tommy will bring Jesse Meeks back, he doesn't deserve another chance. He was the one who QUIT then team, why would they want a player like that.
I agree, IMO Jesse quit just like Starns and doesn't deserve another chance. I don't think Mckenzie would give him another shot anyway. It's way too late in the season to start messing with the teams chemistry, esp. when your team doesn't have much anyway.
Waitin for Friday
02-05-2007, 11:14 AM
What are you basing that on. What has Tommy done from a coaching stand point that makes him the best young coach in the state. I'm not gonna disagree about it being a good thing for JC cause it will be IMO. I think the players will respond to him more. He definately knows the game, he was a great player and very smart.
As for those of you hoping Tommy will bring Jesse Meeks back, he doesn't deserve another chance. He was the one who QUIT then team, why would they want a player like that.
you don't know the situation with Meek, so you need to just keep your mouth shut about him.
Also, Tommy is the only man for the job. He is about the entire Johnson COunty program.
Rim Wrecker
02-05-2007, 01:11 PM
I hate to hear all of this. This Program doesn't need anymore problems.
Rim Wrecker
02-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Dont think that was the problem. I think it goes pretty deep.CLUELESS
Tiger77
02-05-2007, 01:17 PM
What did they do???
Take him out of the classroom, give him an admin. pos. and a Pay raise. He is much more able to take care of his family now.
Sure he liked Coaching, but, Coaching is not the be all end all. Sure some like to think that being a coach is the greatest accomplishment there is, but in reality, it's just a job and if you can make more money by not coaching, then why not?
First and foremost, let me say that I am a fan of Burrhead Lemaster. However, when Chuke arrived things were done behind the scene to undermind the situation. A large number of the powers that be will tell you off the record that Burr was done wrong and forced out. However, to save face he was put into administration and the situation went away. Let me say that I hope Coach McKenzie does a good job and things staighten out with Central. Both county schools should support each other except when they play each other
Redneck
02-05-2007, 02:10 PM
you don't know the situation with Meek, so you need to just keep your mouth shut about him.
Also, Tommy is the only man for the job. He is about the entire Johnson COunty program.
I don't care about his situation, he QUIT.
true2blue
02-05-2007, 02:11 PM
After reading a bunch of these posts, I will put my two cents in now. I read in more than one that people at Johnson Central wasnt to happy with his coaching style. I read in another that he may be coaching at the college level. You know, there is such a thing as doing what you think is best for yourself and your family. I am sure that he cared about his players, but I wouldnt care to bet that he cares about his own kids if he has any more. In this thread and others it sounded like he was going to be ran off anyways. If he had a offer that he thinks is in his and his familys best interest to take, then he should have.
Dont get me wrong, I am not taking up for him, or putting him down for it, if he did leave then it is his decision. Schools are known for getting rid of coaches. There are coaching changes every year at one school or another. I personally think if he did go, there is only one person who knows what made him make the decision to leave Johnson Central, and that is the man himself. So unless there is a mind reader, I dont think he should be judged on a anonymous web site. Coaches are public figures, but they also have a private life that I am sure they want to be kept private.
Nice Post!
Waitin for Friday
02-05-2007, 02:18 PM
I don't care about his situation, he QUIT.
Yeah and a lot of kids at Paintsville quit, but they came back.
Redneck
02-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Yeah and a lot of kids at Paintsville quit, but they came back.
Who quit???
Waitin for Friday
02-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Who quit???
I can name one starter off the state championship team that quit more than once,but i won't say on here.
ADMIN NOTE: Don't say anything unless you can back it up.
Hard Hitter
02-05-2007, 02:43 PM
everyone loved Coach Starns last year when they won the regional tournament....Wat happened?
Wrong.. Everyone from JC knew he was a good coach but alot of people thought he was a know it all and his way was better that the rest. Not many of his players liked him. Last year 15th region MVP couldnt stand him he just loved playing basketball so he played. Look at how many BBall players quit after the first bit of the season last year.
I just don't know about this whole thing. I mean how true this is.
FOX SPORTS
02-05-2007, 03:16 PM
This thread needs to stay on topic....The thread title is RUMOR...Starns Resigns!
This is not about a possible new coach or former coaches or Paintsville or anyother school.
pikevilleball
02-05-2007, 03:22 PM
getting a little testty areny we. i love it. everyone thought that he was the greatest thing walking now they see what he really is. cant wait to see matney leave for belfry when he gets a chance:lmao:
you don't know the situation with Meek, so you need to just keep your mouth shut about him.
Also, Tommy is the only man for the job. He is about the entire Johnson COunty program.
Wrong.. Everyone from JC knew he was a good coach but alot of people thought he was a know it all and his way was better that the rest. Not many of his players liked him. Last year 15th region MVP couldnt stand him he just loved playing basketball so he played. Look at how many BBall players quit after the first bit of the season last year.
That right there is JC's problem.
HE WAS/IS THE COACH!!!!!! His way is the right way because it is his program. Your way is NOT the right way, the principles way is NOT the right way, the players way is NOT the right way, the fans way is NOT the right way, and the JC BOE's way is NOT the right way.
The last part sums it up, the kid played because he loved basketball, not because his parents were living through him, or because it made him popular.
Redneck
02-05-2007, 03:26 PM
That right there is JC's problem.
HE WAS/IS THE COACH!!!!!! His way is the right way because it is his program. Your way is NOT the right way, the principles way is NOT the right way, the players way is NOT the right way, the fans way is NOT the right way, and the JC BOE's way is NOT the right way.
The last part sums it up, the kid played because he loved basketball, not because his parents were living through him, or because it made him popular.
Great post NEXT...
Buckeyex7x
02-05-2007, 03:43 PM
* 2006 Class AAA state semi-finalists, 13-1 record.
* 2006 15th Region boys basketball champs.
* 2004 baseball state final four.
.
wow that is impressive!:Clap:
J. R. VanHoose
02-05-2007, 04:34 PM
I can name one starter off the state championship team that quit more than once,but i won't say on here.
No one quit during the 1995/96 season and came back, I know that for a fact!!
Redneck
02-05-2007, 05:04 PM
I can name one starter off the state championship team that quit more than once,but i won't say on here.
You ain't got a clue of what you're talkin about.
Unbiased
02-05-2007, 05:22 PM
Need to change the rumor...Starnes is back as coach of JC.
#1TigerFan
02-05-2007, 05:43 PM
Yeah right, you support both schools. You hate Central with a passion, so why even post junk like that? Just last week you blasted the administration at JC about something you know absolutely nothing about and was totally false and then tried to cover it up. ( Oh I forgot, that was your St. Bernard doing the talking and you actually was talking about Sheldon Clark.) Now your doing the same thing again about something that you dont know the first tidly about.
You have just about worn out the Matney stuff over the last couple of years. Give it a rest and get a life on that one.
Funny thing that you weren't blasting Bill Mike when he walked out and quit on his team last year. I remember the story of the kids going over to his house to beg him to come back. How come that wasn't the fault of the Paintsville Admin, and this is? Dont want to talk about that I guess.
From what I am reading on here Starns resigned , he was not fired or forced out. Do you have first hand information about anything that has taken place? I doubt it!!
Typical JC drama? I dont think that anything can match the 3 ring circus that has enveloped the Paintsville football program and the backstabbing that has taken place there the last couple of years. Of course you dont want to talk about that either do you?
It seems that trying to find something to blast JC about has totally consumed your every thought process. Why do you feel that you constantly have to do that? Did an eagle attack you when you were little and you now have nightmares about it , or what?
Look, opinons are like buts. Everyone's got one and most stink. I gave my opinion, you gave yours and fortunately, I'm grown up enough to cope with both.
I NEVER support a quitter regardless - blue, black, or otherwise. BMR has coached 20 years and quit 21 times (one year he quit twice). Drama is drama regardless where it occurs.
HOWEVER, I do think JC has coaching ADD. They can't stay happy with one coach long enough to let them build a program. I NEVER stated Starns was fired, I just said that maybe he got tired of being the step child and quit. Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
As for Matney, he doesn't stay at one school very long, and unfortunately, he leaves bad blood when he goes (just ask the folks at SC). However, I don't question his ability to coach or win.
As for blasting JC, yes, I support both schools, but like all on the site, I have a preference.
Have a nice day and find some happiness! You don't have to hate others who don't share your opinion. That is the type of ignorance that leads to terrible things.
EKY Sportster
02-05-2007, 05:56 PM
Need to change the rumor...Starnes is back as coach of JC.
So is this fact or not?? Does anyone know for sure?? There has been over a hundred posts on this thread and no one seems to know anything.
Like I said earlier, we don't need to jump to conclusions until the facts are known!
So if anyone has some hard facts, lets hear them!
eaglehoops
02-05-2007, 06:04 PM
So is this fact or not?? Does anyone know for sure?? There has been over a hundred posts on this thread and no one seems to know anything.
Like I said earlier, we don't need to jump to conclusions until the facts are known!
So if anyone has some hard facts, lets hear them!
Okay, here are the hard facts! Starns did resign Saturday afternoon. However, after meeting with administration he has decided to back out on his resigination and will remain coach at JCHS for the remainder of the year! Thats really it, he resigned then unresigned... I guess he can't make up his mind! IMO after quitting once I wouldn't want him as my coach but that's just me. What does everyone else think?
Justin Credible
02-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Okay, here are the hard facts! Starns did resign Saturday afternoon. However, after meeting with administration he has decided to back out on his resigination and will remain coach at JCHS for the remainder of the year! Thats really it, he resigned then unresigned... I guess he can't make up his mind! IMO after quitting once I wouldn't want him as my coach but that's just me. What does everyone else think?
Heres exactly what I think, hes selfish. If Starns can quit and come back then why can't Meeks? You can expect players to quit throughout season but when a coach does, it looks very bad on him and his character. If Starns can come back then Meeks should be able to.:redboxer:
Golden Eagle
02-05-2007, 06:45 PM
As for Matney, he doesn't stay at one school very long, and unfortunately, he leaves bad blood when he goes (just ask the folks at SC). However, I don't question his ability to coach or win.
This is probably the craziest thing that I have ever read on here. The man stayed at Sheldon Clark for twenty years after playing and coaching at Belfry so how can you say that he doesn't stay at a school very long. Let me guess your St. Bernard told you this. I can see why you tiger fans always fantasize about Matney leaving Johnson Central though after witnessing his teams throttle yours the past three years. I can see why you would want him to leave.
rooster
02-05-2007, 06:50 PM
Look, opinons are like buts. Everyone's got one and most stink. I gave my opinion, you gave yours and fortunately, I'm grown up enough to cope with both.
I NEVER support a quitter regardless - blue, black, or otherwise. BMR has coached 20 years and quit 21 times (one year he quit twice). Drama is drama regardless where it occurs.
HOWEVER, I do think JC has coaching ADD. They can't stay happy with one coach long enough to let them build a program. I NEVER stated Starns was fired, I just said that maybe he got tired of being the step child and quit. Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
As for Matney, he doesn't stay at one school very long, and unfortunately, he leaves bad blood when he goes (just ask the folks at SC). However, I don't question his ability to coach or win.
As for blasting JC, yes, I support both schools, but like all on the site, I have a preference.
Have a nice day and find some happiness! Y don't share your opinion. That is the type of ignorance that leads to terrible things. Yeah , but you never mention any of that drama do you?
Oh I fully comprehend what your getting at, full throttle hatred is what I see. Telling the truth and knowing your facts is also a wonderful thing.
Matney doesn't stay in one place very long? He's only had two head coaching jobs. The last one lasted probably 10 or more years. Again check your facts.
Support both schools? Not seen much support of both , just a lot of bashing towards one in particular.
No, what leads to terrible things is making up accusations and calling people retarded and saying they have 5 year old mentalities, especially when you make things up to call them that. Glad your grown up enough to not call people names. Very mature of you there sister.
rooster
02-05-2007, 06:53 PM
This is probably the craziest thing that I have ever read on here. The man stayed at Sheldon Clark for twenty years after playing and coaching at Belfry so how can you say that he doesn't stay at a school very long. Let me guess your St. Bernard told you this. I can see why you tiger fans always fantasize about Matney leaving Johnson Central though after witnessing his teams throttle yours the past three years. I can see why you would want him to leave.Come on there Golden Eagle dont be so hard on that St. Bernard. It only knows what it has been taught.
FOX SPORTS
02-05-2007, 07:01 PM
So, the new rumor is that Starns is still the JC coach???
EYES ON YOU
02-05-2007, 07:11 PM
Need to change the rumor...Starnes is back as coach of JC.
Coach Starns will remain with the Golden Eagles for the remainder of this year.I was told by a person who is one of the top people within the school system that everything was worked out today and everyone just wanted to focus on the remainder of this season.I hope that the Golden Eagles can finish the year like they started it by winning.Everyone that is a Eagles fan needs to show up and support this fine group of young men that represent their school when ever and where ever they play!!We need to let them know that we are proud of them and that we have faith in them.I'm still a Eagle fan even though I don't know the whole story of who said or done this or that all I know is that we have 16 guys who bust their butts in practice every day and when they have a game they always play hard!! I think you guys are :1: . GO EAGLES!!!!!! :Thumbs: :Clap:
SunDoctor
02-05-2007, 07:40 PM
Starns is a heck of a coach, but not for the high school level. He is more fit for college athletes. His work ethic take all the fun out of the game and no one in high school will play if there is no fun to be had. Like someone said before, he is different, in is ethic and personality. There were very few people that he got along with at Jc anyway. Who knows, this could be a turning point for JC, in a good direction. Tommy Mckenzie would be a great fill in for starns. He has done great with the Jv teams. Good luck in the future JC.
SunDoctor
02-05-2007, 07:42 PM
It is confirmed that Starns has resigned. I'm not for sure why but it is 100%. He will however still continue to teach is classes at JC for the remainder of the year.
OffTheHook
02-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Heres exactly what I think, hes selfish. If Starns can quit and come back then why can't Meeks? You can expect players to quit throughout season but when a coach does, it looks very bad on him and his character. If Starns can come back then Meeks should be able to.:redboxer:
VERY GOOD point! :thumpsup:
#1TigerFan
02-05-2007, 07:57 PM
Yeah , but you never mention any of that drama do you?[/color][/color]
Oh I fully comprehend what your getting at, full throttle hatred is what I see. Telling the truth and knowing your facts is also a wonderful thing.
Matney doesn't stay in one place very long? He's only had two head coaching jobs. The last one lasted probably 10 or more years. Again check your facts.
Support both schools? Not seen much support of both , just a lot of bashing towards one in particular.
No, what leads to terrible things is making up accusations and calling people retarded and saying they have 5 year old mentalities, especially when you make things up to call them that. Glad your grown up enough to not call people names. Very mature of you there sister.
Correction - "brother".
firetubbyplease!
02-05-2007, 08:02 PM
He's goin...He's stayin.... Next thing you know OJ and Walker will be transferin there!
Buckeyex7x
02-05-2007, 08:03 PM
He's goin...He's stayin.... Next thing you know OJ and Walker will be transferin there!
:) :) :lmao:
#1TigerFan
02-05-2007, 08:04 PM
He's goin...He's stayin.... Next thing you know OJ and Walker will be transferin there!
I'm transferrin' there. I just want to hang with Rooster!
Redneck
02-05-2007, 10:05 PM
Heres exactly what I think, hes selfish. If Starns can quit and come back then why can't Meeks? You can expect players to quit throughout season but when a coach does, it looks very bad on him and his character. If Starns can come back then Meeks should be able to.:redboxer:
Like stated earlier, Kyle Rice (15th Region Tourney MVP) hated Starnes, BUT he played (he didn't quit) because he LOVED THE GAME. If Meeks really has the heart and desire that all the JC fans said he had before the season started then he would have never quit.
Batpuff
02-05-2007, 10:17 PM
Well I hate to tell you all but Starnes hasnt went any were. Matter of fact he was at the LC game tonight and I heard him tell an official he wasnt going anywhere.
Redneck
02-05-2007, 10:19 PM
Well I hate to tell you all but Starnes hasnt went any were. Matter of fact he was at the LC game tonight and I heard him tell an official he wasnt going anywhere.
Okay, here are the hard facts! Starns did resign Saturday afternoon. However, after meeting with administration he has decided to back out on his resigination and will remain coach at JCHS for the remainder of the year! Thats really it, he resigned then unresigned...
^ We heard...
BUNDY
02-05-2007, 11:46 PM
People need to get their facts straight. Starns was at Lawrence Co. tonight scouting Magoffin Co. If he resign why does he care about this game.
The Fan
02-05-2007, 11:52 PM
People need to get their facts straight. Starns was at Lawrence Co. tonight scouting Magoffin Co. If he resign why does he care about this game.i seen him there
mcfan1
02-06-2007, 12:17 AM
At the LC-MC game I went to use the restroom, I am standing at the sink and out of the corner of my eye I see Starns, my jaw dropped to the floor.
The Guru
02-06-2007, 12:32 AM
At the LC-MC game I went to use the restroom, I am standing at the sink and out of the corner of my eye I see Starns, my jaw dropped to the floor.
WOW!!!! He seems like such a short man!
SportsKrazee
02-06-2007, 12:40 AM
So this isnt true or is it a possibility
I'm very confused hah
eaglehoops
02-06-2007, 12:45 AM
So this isnt true or is it a possibility
I'm very confused hah
As I said earlier Starns resigned Saturday bringing his letter of resigination to JC. However, after meeting with administration he has unresigned and will finish out the year.
I was even told he got on the bus for Sat. game @ Pikeville but got off half way down the road because he was "sick". On his way back home he had his wife turne in his letter to JC officials. Don't know for sure if this is the way it happened but it came from a JC board member.
If this is the case, JC should not take him back. He is a quitter, and I for one dont want him to return after this.
Midee1
02-06-2007, 06:59 AM
Well I guess the rumor has been put to rest so it is time to close this thread.
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