Next B-ball coach at Belfry Middle

[Blackflag]

Who will this be if Varney goes to Sheldon Clark as HC?


My list -

Keith May
Casey Lequire
David Copley

[Hoops Lover]

Does Varney even have a degree??? Very few school systems will hire a head coach in a major sport if they are not a teacher.

[BoondockSaint]

Of the three Blackfag mentioned, only one has a teaching degree.

[phs1986]

LOLOL..... I have a GREAT idea of whom it will be and IMO.... it IS the one with the teaching degree!!!

[BoondockSaint]

I'm not sure he wants to coach at the middle school level. From what I've been told he has aspirations of being a high school coach.

With that being said, I'm not sure Coach Varney is going anywhere either.

Whomever the coach at BMS is he will not receive 100% total support from the community for one reason or another. Whether it be jealousy, envy, or just flat-out ignorance, he or she will be given ****. That's what really bothers me about this whole situation. I never seen a place where people bicker and complain so much, and if it wasn't about Coach Varney it would be about somebody else.

Just get behind your team and cheer them on, or shut the **** up. Why be yellow and degrade someone on a message when you don't have the gall to criticize someone to their face. The sad thing is that's what most people chose to do. Myself, I couldn't sleep at night if I really felt better about myself for criticizing someone in such "cut-throat" fashion.

I guess that's why I have and will never bad-mouth a coach on one an open forums. It's yellow, plain and simple.

[Dream_Weaver]

I'm not sure he wants to coach at the middle school level. From what I've been told he has aspirations of being a high school coach.

With that being said, I'm not sure Coach Varney is going anywhere either.

Whomever the coach at BMS is he will not receive 100% total support from the community for one reason or another. Whether it be jealousy, envy, or just flat-out ignorance, he or she will be given ****. That's what really bothers me about this whole situation. I never seen a place where people bicker and complain so much, and if it wasn't about Coach Varney it would be about somebody else.

Just get behind your team and cheer them on, or shut the **** up. Why be yellow and degrade someone on a message when you don't have the gall to criticize someone to their face. The sad thing is that's what most people chose to do. Myself, I couldn't sleep at night if I really felt better about myself for criticizing someone in such "cut-throat" fashion.

I guess that's why I have and will never bad-mouth a coach on one an open forums. It's yellow, plain and simple.

Excellent post. :thumpsup: I especially agree with what I highlighted in red.

[Hoops Lover]

These people that badmouth coaches have obviously never coached...and probably never played. They need to get a life!!

[Hoops Lover]

Coach Varney did a much better job this year as a coach. His players got better. That shows they were being coached. Whatever his aspirations are if he doesn't have the teaching credentials it will be hard to find a job as a head coach.

[Pirates~R~Us]

I'm not sure he wants to coach at the middle school level. From what I've been told he has aspirations of being a high school coach.

With that being said, I'm not sure Coach Varney is going anywhere either.

Whomever the coach at BMS is he will not receive 100% total support from the community for one reason or another. Whether it be jealousy, envy, or just flat-out ignorance, he or she will be given ****. That's what really bothers me about this whole situation. I never seen a place where people bicker and complain so much, and if it wasn't about Coach Varney it would be about somebody else.

Just get behind your team and cheer them on, or shut the **** up. Why be yellow and degrade someone on a message when you don't have the gall to criticize someone to their face. The sad thing is that's what most people chose to do. Myself, I couldn't sleep at night if I really felt better about myself for criticizing someone in such "cut-throat" fashion.

I guess that's why I have and will never bad-mouth a coach on one an open forums. It's yellow, plain and simple.

EXCELLENT POST

[Pirates~R~Us]

These people that badmouth coaches have obviously never coached...and probably never played. They need to get a life!!

THATS EXACTLY RIGHT

[what a game]

Who will this be if Varney goes to Sheldon Clark as HC?


My list -

Keith May
Casey Lequire
David Copley


may and copley have coached together for two years now, currently assistants for the lady pirates, they work well together, copley would make a great assistant for him. rumor has it he is real close to former williamson and belfry coach david hatfield.

[Hoops Lover]

He PLAYED for Coach Hatfield. What does that have to do with him coaching at BMS?

[BlueChipper]

Why does it always have to be that coaches,players, and fans are pitted against each other. And why do people have to get on here and air who is going to be the next coach. It appears to me and everyone else the coaching positions have been decided upon and should stay as such. I think instead of fighting among themselves the Belfry fans, coaches, players, and parents should work together and make their school the best in Pike County. They have all the talent academically and athletic wise any school could ask for, they should use this to their advantage. :howdy:

[BlueChipper]

may and copley have coached together for two years now, currently assistants for the lady pirates, they work well together, copley would make a great assistant for him. rumor has it he is real close to former williamson and belfry coach david hatfield.

Didn't a Hatfield guy work with May at BMS this year?

[Hoops Lover]

Great post Blue Chipper!! BMS is still having some growing pains I think due to the fact that all the feeder schools used to have teams and all the kids got to play whether they could play or not...it's not like that now...there is competition for each position...some people still haven't gotten used to this.

[Hoops Lover]

Different guy...DAVID Hatfield teaches math at Belfry High School and has ZERO interest in coaching. The guy that helped May is a physical therapist from the area.

[what a game]

Different guy...DAVID Hatfield teaches math at Belfry High School and has ZERO interest in coaching. The guy that helped May is a physical therapist from the area.


the fire still burns in coach hatfield, you never know he may just want to help out.

[what a game]

checked with my source at the high school copley and coach hagy are brothersWho will this be if Varney goes to Sheldon Clark as HC?


My list -

Keith May
Casey Lequire
David Copley

[TurnthePage]

Great post Blue Chipper!! BMS is still having some growing pains I think due to the fact that all the feeder schools used to have teams and all the kids got to play whether they could play or not...it's not like that now...there is competition for each position...some people still haven't gotten used to this.

LOL OMG Thats a joke. Ok I'm a Belfry fan and always have been and usually a defender of Belfry all the way, but this post is ridiculas. Makes me wonder how much history you have on the feeder schools. I can't believe you said that as truth/fact. There used to be 6 feeder schools, then we went down to 4 and sometimes 3 if Blackberry didn't have a team. Had to start bringing Phelps and other schools in just to have enough teams to play and make a tourney when we used to have our own 6 teams. First of all theres no doubt in my mind that out of 4 to 6 schools, say 8 to 20 on a team, we had more than 5 good ball players because thats basically what your saying like there was no talent.Quote: all the feeder schools used to have teams and all the kids got to play whether they could play or not...it's not like that now...there is competition for each position LOL we used to have some good teams with usually too many on the benches. A lot of kids aren't even playing Basketball anymore. If they would keep these kids interrested BHS would have had more than 3 freshman players this year and it wont be no better next year. In the beginning all the kids were rotated really good, kept fresh kids in all the time, the other team didn't know what would happen and they did really good. There was even an old post on here by next that states that.

Second we have some real talent but you can talk to every parent and you'll get a different opinion from each one on who should do what because every mommy and daddy thinks lil Johnnny is # 1. You have that stuff at every school.

Third if you knew your facts you would know that out of the nine 8th graders...I think 5 of them (maybe 4 but Im thinking 5, theres 1 kid Im not sure about) were actual Belfry feeder students who have played and practiced and supported our area to work their way up to BMS and BHS. The other 4 or 5 arent even from the feeder schools, didn't bring their position from our feeder schools.

You also have some parents who refuse to stay in the principles office or in the coaches face in order to get playing time. Some parents have no shame. I have girls but I know my kids and Ive heard from others, would be soooo embarresed to think they only did what they did because daddy or mommy always through a tantram.

[mrfootball03]

Different guy...DAVID Hatfield teaches math at Belfry High School and has ZERO interest in coaching. The guy that helped May is a physical therapist from the area.

I'm not sure if I would say zero intrest.. David Hatfield has one of the greatest minds of basketball that I have personally ever been around.. He knows so much about the game.. If he were to help out, I know he'd do good

[BoondockSaint]

Collectively, the content of these posts are ridiculous.

Since when did it become rule that everybody gets to play. The last time I checked you keep score because the object of the game is to win. So your best five players ought to be on the floor as much as possible. Even at that, Belfry probably rotated more people than any other county school.

David Hatfield has no desire to coach, as far as I know, and if he did I doubt it would be in Belfry or lower than the high school level.

One more thing that needs to be mentioned is that Belfry's midget league teams are in bad shape. Every year one team loads up on talent and destroys the rest of the league because they are faster, bigger, and maybe a little older. The fact that they win so easily doesn't make them better and it turns other kids against playing the game of basketball.

[BoondockSaint]

A lot of kids aren't even playing Basketball anymore. If they would keep these kids interrested BHS would have had more than 3 freshman players this year and it wont be no better next year.

Are you saying it's the middle school coach's fault that not many freshman came out to play for Coach Casey?

If so, maybe you can enlighten us on the reason so many sophomores decided not to play this year after playing a year of freshman ball. Most of those kids played for Coach Varney when he coached at Bevins.

[Dream_Weaver]

Collectively, the content of these posts are ridiculous.

Since when did it become rule that everybody gets to play. The last time I checked you keep score because the object of the game is to win. So your best five players ought to be on the floor as much as possible. Even at that, Belfry probably rotated more people than any other county school.

David Hatfield has no desire to coach, as far as I know, and if he did I doubt it would be in Belfry or lower than the high school level.

One more thing that needs to be mentioned is that Belfry's midget league teams are in bad shape. Every year one team loads up on talent and destroys the rest of the league because they are faster, bigger, and maybe a little older. The fact that they win so easily doesn't make them better and it turns other kids against playing the game of basketball.


I agree with the Little League program being in bad shape. I know in the past there was talk about drafting players. Certain schools wanted only to draft the students at one school instead of the whole league and it didn't pass. I also don't think that it would be a bad idea to drop the 6th grade back into midget league. There should be enough 6th graders wanting to play to actually field more than one team . If a 6th grader is good enough to move up and play 7th then let him.

[Dream_Weaver]

Are you saying it's the middle school coach's fault that not many freshman came out to play for Coach Casey?

If so, maybe you can enlighten us on the reason so many sophomores decided not to play this year after playing a year of freshman ball. Most of those kids played for Coach Varney when he coached at Bevins.



I think that the rules of the game itself leads to more athletes dropping out and not playing. In b-ball you can only have 5 on the floor at a time and if you are one of the ones on the bench sometimes it is harder to stay .Unless you just love the game. Other sports allow, just by the rules of the game, more kids to participate at any given time. ALso, there are more sports to participate in in this area now with soccer and such.

[Pirates~R~Us]

I think that the rules of the game itself leads to more athletes dropping out and not playing. In b-ball you can only have 5 on the floor at a time and if you are one of the ones on the bench sometimes it is harder to stay .Unless you just love the game. Other sports allow, just by the rules of the game, more kids to participate at any given time. ALso, there are more sports to participate in in this area now with soccer and such.

I agree and I personally didn't take that as someone blaming Coach Varney for Belfry only having 3 freshman. Those three kids came from 3 different schools/3 different coaches before their one year at BMS.

[belfry_varstycheer]

out of all the choices, keith may will probobly be the best. all of the boys want him anyways.

[Hoops Lover]

Who are the MANY sophomores?? Elkins is the only one that didn't come out...who are the rest??

[BlueChipper]

Different guy...DAVID Hatfield teaches math at Belfry High School and has ZERO interest in coaching. The guy that helped May is a physical therapist from the area.

Thanks!

[BlueChipper]

Collectively, the content of these posts are ridiculous.

Since when did it become rule that everybody gets to play. The last time I checked you keep score because the object of the game is to win. So your best five players ought to be on the floor as much as possible. Even at that, Belfry probably rotated more people than any other county school.

David Hatfield has no desire to coach, as far as I know, and if he did I doubt it would be in Belfry or lower than the high school level.

One more thing that needs to be mentioned is that Belfry's midget league teams are in bad shape. Every year one team loads up on talent and destroys the rest of the league because they are faster, bigger, and maybe a little older. The fact that they win so easily doesn't make them better and it turns other kids against playing the game of basketball.

These post are ridiculous and I think that is what I was meaning when I stated previously that people are just arguing and placing blame instead of being worried about the TEAM'S best interest. This is the point, it is not a team that they are worried it is about mud slinging and taunting other players and fans.
If your midget league program is in such bad shape, then the members should ban together and fix what the problem is. Have a committee which is voted on just like other sports, elect a president and committee to govern with rules and fix the program before more suffering takes place. The point is that the children are the focus not the adults who obviously just like to argue.

[Hoops Lover]

Didn't mean everyone got to play...meant more got to play because there were more teams..

[Hoops Lover]

Also...you are telling me that all the 8th graders won't play next year?? Why is that??

[Pirates~R~Us]

Also...you are telling me that all the 8th graders won't play next year?? Why is that??


I can't find on this thread where anybody said that all of the 8th graders wont play next year. Lets hope that don't happen.... but lets also keep this thread decent and open for discussion. We've already had one middle school thread get completely out of control and closed. Lets be resonable so we can hear everyones opinions and voice our own...remember, everybodys got one.
:shh:

Please and Thank You

[Hoops Lover]

Not trying to be rude or disrespectful....just curious about some of the statements made about the sophomores and next year's freshman class...ALL of the 8th graders practice with the highschool every chance they get..and from talking to some parents and to the kids themselves..they seem to enjoy doing that..

[Hoops Lover]

Also...I am NOT on here bashing Coach Varney...look at my posts...

[Pirates~R~Us]

Not trying to be rude or disrespectful....just curious about some of the statements made about the sophomores and next year's freshman class...ALL of the 8th graders practice with the highschool every chance they get..and from talking to some parents and to the kids themselves..they seem to enjoy doing that..

Oh I agree dont get me wrong!! LOL These things just tend to get out of control fast. Wasn't really talking to just you.....was just throwing a reminder out there so we can keep it going.

[LakeLover]

I absolutely agree, things spiral out of control and eventually spread over to the players. This is what spawns problems with the coaching staff, too many parents who know it all.

It takes a great deal of time/effort/work and dedication to devote yourself to being a coach. Especially a middle school coach. They are in the formative stages of basketball, still making those midget league mistakes and needing guidance on fundamentals and how to be play makers. This is a rough age to coach but a fun age to coach. The coaches take so much flack from everyone and no one gives credit where credit is due, it is easy to coach from the stands and have only your child's best interest at heart, it is different to have 15 plus kids and winning at heart. Let's all face it, everyone says winning is not what it is about, but when it comes down to it, it really is. Have you ever seen a coach being kept in a position because he/she really tried with the kids, they may not have won but they played together and learned. Heck no, they get rid of them if they are not up to par and winning. Face it people, it is a survival game, only the fit survive and play, the others are back ups and like I stated, never underestimate the power of the bench. Many points and plays come from here.

[what a game]

Collectively, the content of these posts are ridiculous.

Since when did it become rule that everybody gets to play. The last time I checked you keep score because the object of the game is to win. So your best five players ought to be on the floor as much as possible. Even at that, Belfry probably rotated more people than any other county school.

David Hatfield has no desire to coach, as far as I know, and if he did I doubt it would be in Belfry or lower than the high school level.

One more thing that needs to be mentioned is that Belfry's midget league teams are in bad shape. Every year one team loads up on talent and destroys the rest of the league because they are faster, bigger, and maybe a little older. The fact that they win so easily doesn't make them better and it turns other kids against playing the game of basketball.

i know for a fact if may and copley were in middle school program david hatfield would love to help them, copley was his favorite player, got him his first state championship.

as far as little league copley can't help it if he is the only team who can full court press, run plays, and change defenses, he learned this stuff from hatfield. yes the players arn't as good but thats not his fault, his team is small this year but very disciplined.

[what a game]

[QUOTE=what a game]i know for a fact if may and copley were in middle school program david hatfield would love to help them, copley was his favorite player, got him his first state championship.

as far as little league copley can't help it if he is the only team who can full court press, run plays, and change defenses, he learned this stuff from hatfield. yes the players arn't as good but thats not his fault, his team is small this year but very disciplined.[/QUOTE

i coached in that league last year, and copley even went to pratice with other teams to help them, and some games he starts his 2nd five:shh:

[BlueChipper]

what a game;

did you stop to think that if that league did go to a draft like someone suggested in a previous post, copley would not have all the talent on his team. what from I've seen, he stacks his team every year and only has the talent.

[mrfootball03]

Who are the MANY sophomores?? Elkins is the only one that didn't come out...who are the rest??

There were two kids that were supposed to play, and be pretty good, but transferred back to Matewan..

[BoondockSaint]

There were two kids that were supposed to play, and be pretty good, but transferred back to Matewan..

And Corey Coleman. That brings the total to 4.

[LakeLover]

what a game;

did you stop to think that if that league did go to a draft like someone suggested in a previous post, copley would not have all the talent on his team. what from I've seen, he stacks his team every year and only has the talent.

I think what the post is saying is that Copley spends time with his players and gets back to the basics. That is what is lacking simple fundamentals for these kids. If you don't start the corrections on mistakes now, they will continue late into the years when it is hard to break.
Keep it up Copley, you are what the little league needs, discipline and effort. Make em hate you when you arrive in the gym, a sure sign of talent. Ask former players for Keith May, they know.

[BoondockSaint]

I agree with the Little League program being in bad shape. I know in the past there was talk about drafting players. Certain schools wanted only to draft the students at one school instead of the whole league and it didn't pass. I also don't think that it would be a bad idea to drop the 6th grade back into midget league. There should be enough 6th graders wanting to play to actually field more than one team . If a 6th grader is good enough to move up and play 7th then let him.

I agree about 6th graders playing little league. There just aren't enough schools that have strictly 6th teams, and I understand why. At that age, getting kids involved in sports is very important. From 7th grade on, winning games should be the main priority.

[BoondockSaint]

Not trying to be rude or disrespectful....just curious about some of the statements made about the sophomores and next year's freshman class...ALL of the 8th graders practice with the highschool every chance they get..and from talking to some parents and to the kids themselves..they seem to enjoy doing that..

The person who made the statement was trying to point the blame at Varney, when I really don't think anyone should be to blame over any of those freshmen and sophomores not playing.

That's the point I was trying to make, sorry if it was unclear.

[BoondockSaint]

what a game;

did you stop to think that if that league did go to a draft like someone suggested in a previous post, copley would not have all the talent on his team. what from I've seen, he stacks his team every year and only has the talent.

That doesn't benefit anyone when teams are made up that way...football or basketball.

[BoondockSaint]

Didn't mean everyone got to play...meant more got to play because there were more teams..

That's the only fault to consolidation as far as I can see. Lots more kids would be on the "1st 5" if you have more teams.

But there really isn't anything that can be done about that.

[Hoops Lover]

Corey Coleman had surgery on his wrist from a football injury....he was unable to play...he worked out with the team until time for his surgery...he is just now getting back to where he can even use that wrist again..let alone handle or shoot a basketball..

[what a game]

what a game;

did you stop to think that if that league did go to a draft like someone suggested in a previous post, copley would not have all the talent on his team. what from I've seen, he stacks his team every year and only has the talent.

his third grade son is probably a top 10 player in league now, what do you guys think his team will do the next two years unless he plays up in 5th grade to middle school, they play basketball a year round, never apologize for time and effort copley, just keep sending good players to the middle school. thanks for making the program better.

[legacy1]

Belfry's next middle school coach...........I think it will still be Coach Varney and I'm sure that the parents and players will be glad to have him.

[LakeLover]

Belfry's next middle school coach...........I think it will still be Coach Varney and I'm sure that the parents and players will be glad to have him.

:lmao: Like they would enjoy having the plague!!!!!!!!!

[PirateFlag]

coach varney isnt goin to sheldon clark to coach hes stayin at bms or hes goin up to bhs to coach freshman

[what a game]

:lmao: Like they would enjoy having the plague!!!!!!!!!lol:yikes:

[JD If U Please]

i know for a fact if may and copley were in middle school program david hatfield would love to help them, copley was his favorite player, got him his first state championship.

as far as little league copley can't help it if he is the only team who can full court press, run plays, and change defenses, he learned this stuff from hatfield. yes the players arn't as good but thats not his fault, his team is small this year but very disciplined.

Copley hand picks his teams to WIN. Since when did beating kids in the 4th and 5th grade 60-5 and still pressing prove anything.

[JD If U Please]

I think what the post is saying is that Copley spends time with his players and gets back to the basics. That is what is lacking simple fundamentals for these kids. If you don't start the corrections on mistakes now, they will continue late into the years when it is hard to break.
Keep it up Copley, you are what the little league needs, discipline and effort. Make em hate you when you arrive in the gym, a sure sign of talent. Ask former players for Keith May, they know.

And that is what Varney had to deal with the past 2 years. Tell me how many of Copley's players can shoot a proper right and left hand lay-up? I saw some of his "star" players from last year that Howard and Varney were coaching and guess what?
None could shoot a left handed lay-up, do a pivot drill correctly, could get into triple-threat, plus the kids that is almost 6 foot tall in 6th grade couldn't drop step or shoot FT's with one hand.


Copley has bigger worries than basketball though......hows the Daycare business been lately:yesno:

[BlueChipper]

And that is what Varney had to deal with the past 2 years. Tell me how many of Copley's players can shoot a proper right and left hand lay-up? I saw some of his "star" players from last year that Howard and Varney were coaching and guess what?
None could shoot a left handed lay-up, do a pivot drill correctly, could get into triple-threat, plus the kids that is almost 6 foot tall in 6th grade couldn't drop step or shoot FT's with one hand.


Copley has bigger worries than basketball though......hows the Daycare business been lately:yesno:

And it looks as if they still can't shoot a layup or shot with any respect. I have seen this team, and if that is what you call being able to shoot, go back to school my friend. I did not see anything they have done with these kids except hide in the locker room when the going got tough. Get real dude, these are kids still don't have talent. If they did they would have proved it on the hard wood and apparently Pikeville put a stop to that.

[BlueChipper]

And that is what Varney had to deal with the past 2 years. Tell me how many of Copley's players can shoot a proper right and left hand lay-up? I saw some of his "star" players from last year that Howard and Varney were coaching and guess what?
None could shoot a left handed lay-up, do a pivot drill correctly, could get into triple-threat, plus the kids that is almost 6 foot tall in 6th grade couldn't drop step or shoot FT's with one hand.


Copley has bigger worries than basketball though......hows the Daycare business been lately:yesno:


First of all, this is a thread to discuss basketball, opinions and thoughts. Why do you have to be personal and try and disgrace someone's personal name. You better watch what you say, there are kids who read these post and it is ridiculous for an adult to have a thread closed because he/she cannot abide by the rules. I am sure all those who are on here have some pretty bad skeletons in their closet, and most know what I mean. Why not keep it clean.

[BlueChipper]

And that is what Varney had to deal with the past 2 years. Tell me how many of Copley's players can shoot a proper right and left hand lay-up? I saw some of his "star" players from last year that Howard and Varney were coaching and guess what?
None could shoot a left handed lay-up, do a pivot drill correctly, could get into triple-threat, plus the kids that is almost 6 foot tall in 6th grade couldn't drop step or shoot FT's with one hand.


Copley has bigger worries than basketball though......hows the Daycare business been lately:yesno:

You cannot and will not tell me Keith May's former and present players cannot shoot.They are fundamentally sound through out, he works and dedicates himself to the kids. Lets not lose sight of this post.

[what a game]

And that is what Varney had to deal with the past 2 years. Tell me how many of Copley's players can shoot a proper right and left hand lay-up? I saw some of his "star" players from last year that Howard and Varney were coaching and guess what?
None could shoot a left handed lay-up, do a pivot drill correctly, could get into triple-threat, plus the kids that is almost 6 foot tall in 6th grade couldn't drop step or shoot FT's with one hand.


Copley has bigger worries than basketball though......hows the Daycare business been lately:yesno:

what did these kids learn in summer pratice and camp. saw those kids play last yaer and that did not seem to be the case.

[pirate07]

coach varney really stepped it up this year though so i have to defend him on that, maybe with another year of middle school ball, he can grow more at a better coach, and then try out the highschool level.

[dblg11]

IMO I do not think Keith May will take the middle school job. Rumor has it that he has been offered a high school job and will be coaching at the next level next year. If he did end up with the middle school job it would be a very sound program.

[LakeLover]

IMO I do not think Keith May will take the middle school job. Rumor has it that he has been offered a high school job and will be coaching at the next level next year. If he did end up with the middle school job it would be a very sound program.

Where has he been offered a coaching position?

[LakeLover]

Copley hand picks his teams to WIN. Since when did beating kids in the 4th and 5th grade 60-5 and still pressing prove anything.

At least these kids can press at this age level, most do not understand the concept. I have not seen the teams this guy coaches but to press at this age impressive.

[LakeLover]

And it looks as if they still can't shoot a layup or shot with any respect. I have seen this team, and if that is what you call being able to shoot, go back to school my friend. I did not see anything they have done with these kids except hide in the locker room when the going got tough. Get real dude, these are kids still don't have talent. If they did they would have proved it on the hard wood and apparently Pikeville put a stop to that.

These kids do have some talent, somewhat misguided but they do have talent.

[BMS Football Mom#36]

I agree with the Little League program being in bad shape. I know in the past there was talk about drafting players. Certain schools wanted only to draft the students at one school instead of the whole league and it didn't pass. I also don't think that it would be a bad idea to drop the 6th grade back into midget league. There should be enough 6th graders wanting to play to actually field more than one team . If a 6th grader is good enough to move up and play 7th then let him.


Where would the 7th graders have been this year without the 6th graders they wouldn't have had enough players to play a game! 6th graders are part of BMS and as such should play for BMS! If the same kids come out for basketball next year, who's going to play 8th grade? I'm proud of our 6th graders as well as our 7th & 8th. It doesn't matter who thinks who is a better coach, some kids play because they love the game. They will stay and play for whoever is coach. The 6th grade had several coaches this year and the ones who played for the 7th had a couple more. I'll be there cheering for BMS and my son whoever the is coach is!

[BelfryDad]

the midget league IS in bad shape. There is one team that was hand picked that I know of and maybe more. Coach Casey is letting the woman from phelps run the league from what I gather. you would at least think if he chose someone to fill in for him that they would be from Belfry and not a rival school. She is even overruling officals calls from the scorers table, and from what I know about the rules, the offical does not have that power. It would be nice if they have a draft and if they want to bring kids from othe schools such as Phelps then they should have to be drafted like everyone else. Keith May is starting his own program in October and I personally can't wait. It will be better organized I can guarentee you that!

[phs1986]

the midget league IS in bad shape. There is one team that was hand picked that I know of and maybe more. Coach Casey is letting the woman from phelps run the league from what I gather. you would at least think if he chose someone to fill in for him that they would be from Belfry and not a rival school. She is even overruling officals calls from the scorers table, and from what I know about the rules, the offical does not have that power. It would be nice if they have a draft and if they want to bring kids from othe schools such as Phelps then they should have to be drafted like everyone else. Keith May is starting his own program in October and I personally can't wait. It will be better organized I can guarentee you that!


UH.... Belfrydad... IF I MAY..... I personally know the "lady" your talking about and I can promise you that she was ASKED to keep official books. As for Phelps being a rival school.... FROM my understanding the Phelps teams is what actually MADE the SS League this year. I know that Phelps had 7 basketball teams this year. How about this..... you all come to Phelps and play next year.... We (PHELPS) have donated YES.... DONATED to the Belfry(South Side) league EVERY year that I can remember by bringing our teams down there to play in that league. IMO..... you don't look a gift horse in the mouth and how do I know this... Because I used to be the treasurer of the South Side league..... Let's get the league at Phelps next year and let you all see what it is to have to travel EVERY weekend, spend your money so that it benefits someone else, and still have to put up with critics like you!! I would suggest that if you have a problem with the "woman" as you called her then tell her... LMAO.... I will give you $100.00 if she don't shoot straight $h!T back at ya!!

As for Keith.... You go boy!!! :)

[phs1986]

Just talked to the woman "behind the scorers table"...... She wants you to know that she has been informed that she will have a shirt with "COMMISSIONER" on it and has been she has also been hired for 5 more years!! LOLOL..... No joke... I did just talk to her!!! (she called FROM the ballgame)...... LMAO!!

[NEXT]

What is this ladies name?

[phs1986]

I won't write her name on here... waayyyyy to public but I can assure you that she is from Phelps and she didn't ask for the "job" that was given to her..... She was asked if she would care to do it!!! Maybe I'll see if I can get her to join up and she will tell ya herself!! Sorry I couldn't help ya out Next....

[waterbucket#00]

this is tooo funny!!!LOL

[BelfryDad]

well to all you Phelps folks that responded...congrats on defending your person, I would do the same, especially if it benefited my team. I was there and watched everything that happened. Also, I know that our team "Bevins" was shorted points in a game in which they lost by one point. Say as you will...but this is fact.

[waterbucket#00]

don't judge the rest of the community by this..phelps has some great kids! and parents who only want to see their kids enjoy what they love..even if it is at another school...i've been there at a few games also and have saw some "wierd" things happen ..all centered around the scorer's table..
LMAO ever wonder as to how the "lady" ended up with your league???
it's not representation of my kid that's for sure!!!

[phs1986]

It's not a matter of defending her.... IMO.... if you have a problem with it you need to address Mr. Casey.... HE is the man who runs the show there!!!

[BMS Football Mom#36]

Just a minor correction. Midget League is run by Mildred May. Pee Wee is run by Randy Casey.

[BMS Football Mom#36]

And it looks as if they still can't shoot a layup or shot with any respect. I have seen this team, and if that is what you call being able to shoot, go back to school my friend. I did not see anything they have done with these kids except hide in the locker room when the going got tough. Get real dude, these are kids still don't have talent. If they did they would have proved it on the hard wood and apparently Pikeville put a stop to that.


This was about sixth grade they payed Pikeville 3 times what was the scores?

[blueblood]

the midget league IS in bad shape. There is one team that was hand picked that I know of and maybe more. Coach Casey is letting the woman from phelps run the league from what I gather. you would at least think if he chose someone to fill in for him that they would be from Belfry and not a rival school. She is even overruling officals calls from the scorers table, and from what I know about the rules, the offical does not have that power. It would be nice if they have a draft and if they want to bring kids from othe schools such as Phelps then they should have to be drafted like everyone else. Keith May is starting his own program in October and I personally can't wait. It will be better organized I can guarentee you that!

Belfry Dad i am so glad that these children have a place to play.. and as for a draft how many kids would get to play if they had to be drafted and go to southside to practice. At least with other schools having teams these kids can practice at phelps and go to southside to play the games... i personally know many kids who would not have that opportunity....... sure some parents would run thier children but what about the ones who won't or can't.... I know for a fact that Phelps had over 40 kids come out and that is the most that has ever came out for the south side league... now while Phelps is not a feeder school for Belfry does that mean they shouldnt come there to play? And play together... lets forget all these little trivial slurs and all that... the main focus should be on the kids... after all thats what it is all about is'nt it?

[phs1986]

Just a minor correction. Midget League is run by Mildred May. Pee Wee is run by Randy Casey.


You are ABSOLUTELY correct!!!! BUT... to help stay on topic (if I may...Teehee).... isn't this a thread about Middle School?? LOL.....

[BMS Football Mom#36]

You are ABSOLUTELY correct!!!! BUT... to help stay on topic (if I may...Teehee).... isn't this a thread about Middle School?? LOL.....


ABSOLUTELY correct!!!! BUT...I wasn't the one that brought it up, read the early threads! Someone else got off topic I was just correcting a misunderstanding.

[phs1986]

ABSOLUTELY correct!!!! BUT...I wasn't the one that brought it up, read the early threads! Someone else got off topic I was just correcting a misunderstanding.

OMG.... I didn't mean to be smart.... I was agreeing with ya!! LOL..... As far as the earlier threads... I have read them!! As a matter of fact..... I have posted in them!

NOW... back to the topic at hand...
Is the situtation still questionable.... WHO is gonna be the next coach??

[BMS Football Mom#36]

OMG.... I didn't mean to be smart.... I was agreeing with ya!! LOL..... As far as the earlier threads... I have read them!! As a matter of fact..... I have posted in them!

NOW... back to the topic at hand...
Is the situtation still questionable.... WHO is gonna be the next coach??


Didn't take it as being smart, just answering! Bobby Varney he's practicing now for AAU

[blueblood]

The pee-wee league is over with at Belfry and i think everyone is glad.. its been a long season... To all you Belfry fans who dont want Phelps there, well got some scoop for you . I heard they wont come down next year because of all the things that has happened and been said concerning thier kids... yes Phelps is stacked with kids from Phelps and Phelps only, we dont have to go to Matewan or Williamson to get our kids to compete with anyone. The coaches work really hard to teach the kids the fundamentals.. and yes one team at Southside was hand picked to beat Phelps because they dominated there last year and a couple of years before that... But I think that everyone has lost sight of what the goal is at a second or third grade level.. Isnt it to teach the kids fundamentals.. let them have fun while they learn the game. and yes even let all the kids play.win or lose. go Phelps!!!! get a league of your own because!!! because the kids and coaches are definitely in a league of thier own..

[phs1986]

The pee-wee league is over with at Belfry and i think everyone is glad.. its been a long season... To all you Belfry fans who dont want Phelps there, well got some scoop for you . I heard they wont come down next year because of all the things that has happened and been said concerning thier kids... yes Phelps is stacked with kids from Phelps and Phelps only, we dont have to go to Matewan or Williamson to get our kids to compete with anyone. The coaches work really hard to teach the kids the fundamentals.. and yes one team at Southside was hand picked to beat Phelps because they dominated there last year and a couple of years before that... But I think that everyone has lost sight of what the goal is at a second or third grade level.. Isnt it to teach the kids fundamentals.. let them have fun while they learn the game. and yes even let all the kids play.win or lose. go Phelps!!!! get a league of your own because!!! because the kids and coaches are definitely in a league of thier own..


AMEN!!! I sooooooo agree!!! Maybe with all the kids Phelps has to come out .......they can even have other teams come to Phelps to play the way Phelps went to Southside...Time to bring some of that support home!! I'm not knocking the SS league as my child played in it the year they dominated... 15-0.... won the entire thing without a loss all year... BUT.... fundamental ball should be taught at that young age.... they should not be taught to win at all costs nor should they be hand picked!! I TOTALLY disagree with that! Congrats on a job well done this season to all the little ones... (SS kids included)....... Best wishes on a wonderful season next year WHERE EVER you play!!!

[waterbucket#00]

AMEN!!! I sooooooo agree!!! Maybe with all the kids Phelps has to come out .......they can even have other teams come to Phelps to play the way Phelps went to Southside...Time to bring some of that support home!! I'm not knocking the SS league as my child played in it the year they dominated... 15-0.... won the entire thing without a loss all year... BUT.... fundamental ball should be taught at that young age.... they should not be taught to win at all costs nor should they be hand picked!! I TOTALLY disagree with that! Congrats on a job well done this season to all the little ones... (SS kids included)....... Best wishes on a wonderful season next year WHERE EVER you play!!!
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and people wonder why phelps cannot run a league OF ANY KIND!!! geeshz..........i've been around long enough that it's NOT for the kids in the phelps/majestic area... it's all about the parants AND THEIR BUDDIES...who to bend the rules for and WHO'S NEXT ON THE **** LIST to make look bad,and all the while saying ..IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS..
please!!!! you wonder what happens to little league baseball,,basketball and football..when they can't even tell you WHO IS in charge because they're are so many with the "helping hand" LOL the same parents bring the same headaches THAT SOME DESCENT people just don't want to deal with...
grow up! for the kids!!!!

[phs1986]

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and people wonder why phelps cannot run a league OF ANY KIND!!! geeshz..........i've been around long enough that it's NOT for the kids in the phelps/majestic area... it's all about the parants AND THEIR BUDDIES...who to bend the rules for and WHO'S NEXT ON THE **** LIST to make look bad,and all the while saying ..IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS..
please!!!! you wonder what happens to little league baseball,,basketball and football..when they can't even tell you WHO IS in charge because they're are so many with the "helping hand" LOL the same parents bring the same headaches THAT SOME DESCENT people just don't want to deal with...
grow up! for the kids!!!!

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IMO.... you have NO clue as to HOW things are run in the Phelps area....
I work with those kids and I can tell you that they are MY main focus.... I could really give 2 craps less about your opinion as evidently you have not been to any games where I have been there. Granted... there are a FEW in the area who are self-centered but...... there are a HUGE majority of more who are there for those babies. As for you being a decent person... IF... and let me say that again... IF you are from Phelps.... your dealing with it!! LMAO.... or you wouldn't have responded to the previous post... IF your not from Phelps... then deal with it!! Phelps competes with all the area sports and they are the only ones left that have not been "combined".... OOPS.... did I say that????? YES I sure did!!!!!

[waterbucket#00]

seem to have struck a nerve ...and for that i'm sorry ..if the kids and parants are happy with going to belfry then so be it .after all ..it's all about the kids right?
just don't speak for the ones who just want their kid active and involved with something they enjoy..i had noticed some tension at the games but not among the kids.

[phs1986]

Tension at what games??? I don't have one who played in the SS league... BUT I do work with those babies on a daily basis....... as for you striking a nerve... BELIEVE me... if you had, you would have known it... LMAO.... As far as the kids go... YEP... it does bother some of them that they are "looked" down on... NOT at Phelps either! Whether you believe it or not.... those kids notice EVERYTHING.... They come back to school and report it all to anyone who will listen... believe me.... I have heard alllllllll about the championship game yesterday!!!

Again.... kudo's to ALL the children who participated in the SS league this year.... Job well done KIDS!!! (Yep, their what it's all about!!!)
OH... before I forget..... I am not speaking for anyone but myself.... and on behalf of the kids.... they are the MOST important thing I can think of pertaining to your post.......

TOPIC at hand:
Middle School coach?? Whose it gonna be??

[Belfry80]

Tension at what games??? I don't have one who played in the SS league... BUT I do work with those babies on a daily basis....... as for you striking a nerve... BELIEVE me... if you had, you would have known it... LMAO.... As far as the kids go... YEP... it does bother some of them that they are "looked" down on... NOT at Phelps either! Whether you believe it or not.... those kids notice EVERYTHING.... They come back to school and report it all to anyone who will listen... believe me.... I have heard alllllllll about the championship game yesterday!!!

Again.... kudo's to ALL the children who participated in the SS league this year.... Job well done KIDS!!! (Yep, their what it's all about!!!)
OH... before I forget..... I am not speaking for anyone but myself.... and on behalf of the kids.... they are the MOST important thing I can think of pertaining to your post.......

TOPIC at hand:
Middle School coach?? Whose it gonna be??
:mad:

After talking to Coach Casey the middle school coach will be Coach Varney.

I have also talked to Bobby a few times since the end of their season and here are MY views and OPINIONS. Let me also qualify this by saying I have a niece and nephew that go to BMS and I have known little Bobby and his father for as long as he has been alive.

Coach Casey believes in Coach Varney and while even Coach Varney will admit he makes mistakes, those kids have gotten better.

That group was not all that talented in the big scheme of things, they had some size and Hairisiton but they have not had a kid in the past 2 years that could score on a consistent basis.

People look at the success of the girls and football and say **** that guy can't coach because they don't win county titles. The team that beat them last year has 2 guys starting for a Shelby Valley team that is going to Rupp. The team that beat them this year lost 1 game in the county - to Belfry.

I have a family member that plays basketball and volleyball and let me tell you it wouldn't take John Wooden to win with that bunch of girls - not saying May and Collins didn't do what was needed and are not great coaches - but come on girls AAU and all-stars has been played a Belfry FOREVER.

The football, well to be honest, Deskins did a great job of picking coaches that know the game to be around him and those kids expect to win football games.

To some of you guys that just can' stand Bobby I think I know why, I will give you he is arrogant and even to the point of cocky and he kisses 0 peoples butt, but he eats, sleeps, and breathes Belfry basketball, and is deeply loyal to Coach Casey.
At the EXPO after the region I saw someone say something negative about Coach Casey and Varney flat told them were to go.

The thing that bothers me the most about reading this junk on here is Bobby played for Coach May and Casey Lequire and Bobby's brother pretty much grew up together then people get on here throws those guys names out when I'm pretty sure those 2 have 0 interest in the job. That cause unwanted strain between everyone.

The junk he has to put up with on here and with people being two-faced because his dad is a board member absolutely kills me. I have literally seen with my own eyes people shake his hand and hug him then when he leaves call him every name in the book and say what a prick. GROW UP!!!!

Does he need to learn more, YES, but Coach Casey and Mr. Hurley seem happy with him and I'm pretty sure they are the only 2 that matter

I'm getting off my soap box now.

[BMS Football Mom#36]

Tension at what games??? I don't have one who played in the SS league... BUT I do work with those babies on a daily basis....... as for you striking a nerve... BELIEVE me... if you had, you would have known it... LMAO.... As far as the kids go... YEP... it does bother some of them that they are "looked" down on... NOT at Phelps either! Whether you believe it or not.... those kids notice EVERYTHING.... They come back to school and report it all to anyone who will listen... believe me.... I have heard alllllllll about the championship game yesterday!!!

Again.... kudo's to ALL the children who participated in the SS league this year.... Job well done KIDS!!! (Yep, their what it's all about!!!)
OH... before I forget..... I am not speaking for anyone but myself.... and on behalf of the kids.... they are the MOST important thing I can think of pertaining to your post.......

TOPIC at hand:
Middle School coach?? Whose it gonna be??
:mad:

After talking to Coach Casey the middle school coach will be Coach Varney.

I have also talked to Bobby a few times since the end of their season and here are MY views and OPINIONS. Let me also qualify this by saying I have a niece and nephew that go to BMS and I have known little Bobby and his father for as long as he has been alive.

Coach Casey believes in Coach Varney and while even Coach Varney will admit he makes mistakes, those kids have gotten better.

That group was not all that talented in the big scheme of things, they had some size and Hairisiton but they have not had a kid in the past 2 years that could score on a consistent basis.

People look at the success of the girls and football and say **** that guy can't coach because they don't win county titles. The team that beat them last year has 2 guys starting for a Shelby Valley team that is going to Rupp. The team that beat them this year lost 1 game in the county - to Belfry.

I have a family member that plays basketball and volleyball and let me tell you it wouldn't take John Wooden to win with that bunch of girls - not saying May and Collins didn't do what was needed and are not great coaches - but come on girls AAU and all-stars has been played a Belfry FOREVER.

The football, well to be honest, Deskins did a great job of picking coaches that know the game to be around him and those kids expect to win football games.

To some of you guys that just can' stand Bobby I think I know why, I will give you he is arrogant and even to the point of cocky and he kisses 0 peoples butt, but he eats, sleeps, and breathes Belfry basketball, and is deeply loyal to Coach Casey.
At the EXPO after the region I saw someone say something negative about Coach Casey and Varney flat told them were to go.

The thing that bothers me the most about reading this junk on here is Bobby played for Coach May and Casey Lequire and Bobby's brother pretty much grew up together then people get on here throws those guys names out when I'm pretty sure those 2 have 0 interest in the job. That cause unwanted strain between everyone.

The junk he has to put up with on here and with people being two-faced because his dad is a board member absolutely kills me. I have literally seen with my own eyes people shake his hand and hug him then when he leaves call him every name in the book and say what a prick. GROW UP!!!!

Does he need to learn more, YES, but Coach Casey and Mr. Hurley seem happy with him and I'm pretty sure they are the only 2 that matter

I'm getting off my soap box now.




Nice post:thumpsup:

[sue-katt2]

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and people wonder why phelps cannot run a league OF ANY KIND!!! geeshz..........i've been around long enough that it's NOT for the kids in the phelps/majestic area... it's all about the parants AND THEIR BUDDIES...who to bend the rules for and WHO'S NEXT ON THE **** LIST to make look bad,and all the while saying ..IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS..
please!!!! you wonder what happens to little league baseball,,basketball and football..when they can't even tell you WHO IS in charge because they're are so many with the "helping hand" LOL the same parents bring the same headaches THAT SOME DESCENT people just don't want to deal with...
grow up! for the kids!!!!
THIS IS JUST PLAIN OLD JEALOUSY IT SEEMS TO ME.... ..WELL WAKE UP! SOUNDS LIKE A DISGRUNTLED PARENT TO ME.. WH DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY MAYBE?:p AS FOR THE LEAGUES WHETHER IT'S BASEBALL BASKETBALL OR FOOTBALL ..WE SEEM TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF KIDS BEING WELL ORGANIZED TO PLAY ..AND THOUGH SHE'S NEVER TOLD ..PHS1986 DOES A FINE JOB!!!
YOU SHOULD FEEL LUCKY TO HAVE A HARD WORKER WHO DOES IT ALL FOR THE KIDS!!!
SHAME ON YOU!!!! YOU FEEL THE NEED TO JUMP ON ANY BAND WAGON WHO WANTS TO BAD MOUTH OUR COMMUNITY ...AS PHS1986 SAYS ...."DEAL WITH IT"!!!

[phs1986]

AAWWWWW...... I luv ya SueKatt!!!! LOLOL....

[blueblood]

Phelps is just like any other community, sure they have thier problems but at least when they take a team to southside as they have for many years, it is well stacked with kids who actually live in phelps..... and guess what !!! these kids GET TO PLAY!!! and as for not being able to run a league, there again we have our problems but we have got a lot of great people wh o are there, Just for the kids!!! I know that personally.

[Hoops Lover]

Hey Belfry Dad...why don't you volunteer to help instead of hiding behind a computer screen and complaining???? ANY kind of little league can always use volunteers to do any number of things...the lady from Phelps did what she did because nobody else wanted to keep the official book on a weekly basis...if a team was shorted a point that cost them a game then why didn't the coach notice??? Could it be that it's not about winning and losing when the kids are that young?? IMO it's about learning to love to play and learning some fundamentals alond with sportsmanship and team play...what does it matter who wins a Bevins vs. Southside game when the players are 7 or 8 years old?? Quit hiding behind your computer and then maybe you can see the big picture..

[If...Then]

it wont matter. pikevilles 7th grade team was 21-0 beating belfry by 36. county is already clinched.

[Hoops Lover]

Wow...county is already clinched??? Maybe they will just cancel the middle school season and award the trophy to Pikeville...come on man...ridiculous post..:)

[If...Then]

Wow...county is already clinched??? Maybe they will just cancel the middle school season and award the trophy to Pikeville...come on man...ridiculous post..:)

dude, think about it...pikeville 21-0.....they beat belfry by 38, jenkins by 51, virgie by 56, elkhorn by 32.....the same teams are coming back..what or who think could stand in there way?

[Hoops Lover]

Dude..YOU think about it...upsets happen EVERYDAY in sports...that's why they play the games...last year was just that ..LAST year...

[If...Then]

w/e i got money on pikeville....Upset? Last Year? dude belfry wasnt nearly as good at pikeville. they were 2/3 on belfry. should have been 3/3 cause of that call.