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East ky was well represented in the 08 Rick Bolus rankings of top 24 players in the state for next year.
#9 Clark Stepp
#12 Tate Cox
#14 Josh Crawford
#19 Landon Slone
Many other players made the next 25 including Day from Pineville and Collins from JBS.
Tubby Hater
05-03-2007, 10:28 PM
East ky was well represented in the 08 Rick Bolus rankings of top 24 players in the state for next year.
#9 Clark Stepp
#12 Tate Cox
#14 Josh Crawford
#19 Landon Slone
Many other players made the next 25 including Day from Pineville and Collins from JBS.
Would have thought Vanhoose would be on there as high as Slone considering he was All State honorable mention
RavenBoy
05-03-2007, 10:34 PM
Looks good but I wouldn't put Cox that far up.
timeout
05-03-2007, 11:44 PM
Looks good but I wouldn't put Cox that far up.Looks good to me.
Where could we see the complete list?
Super_de
05-04-2007, 01:18 AM
Can somone explain to me, how them players could compete with players such as Darius miller and Scotty Hopson from kentucky.Two top 40 players in the nation in 08. Just confuses me, but i guess its good that eastern kentucky is gettin noticed.
Cox and Slone should be ahead of Stepp.
Midee1
05-04-2007, 12:48 PM
Would have thought Vanhoose would be on there as high as Slone considering he was All State honorable mention
I believe that Vanhoose was a senior this year so he wouldn't be in the 08 rankings. I can't answer for anyone else.
alfus21
05-04-2007, 01:13 PM
Click this message to go to the link. (http://www.kyprephoops.com/0708/Jun07BolusKYBoys.html)
The Guru
05-04-2007, 01:51 PM
I believe that Vanhoose was a senior this year so he wouldn't be in the 08 rankings. I can't answer for anyone else.
Vanhoose will be a Senior next year.
The Guru
05-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Can somone explain to me, how them players could compete with players such as Darius miller and Scotty Hopson from kentucky.Two top 40 players in the nation in 08. Just confuses me, but i guess its good that eastern kentucky is gettin noticed.
Have not seen Miller play but have heard great things.
I saw Hopson last year a few games and was not as impressed as I thought I would be. Sure he has great offensive ability, can jump out of a gym but, you do have to play defense more than just every now and then. Also, you can tell when you really have to guard him as he just stands around outside as trys to pick his spots to display his athletic ability.
Midee1
05-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Vanhoose will be a Senior next year.
Vanhoose was a senior this year. If you are talking about Jon Vanhoose from Russell.
http://www.russell-ind.k12.ky.us/reddevilssports/boysbasketball.htm3
If not then I apologize.
jammin' jamey
05-04-2007, 02:52 PM
Vanhoose was a senior this year. If you are talking about Jon Vanhoose from Russell.
http://www.russell-ind.k12.ky.us/reddevilssports/boysbasketball.htm3
If not then I apologize.
I believe "the Guru" is talking about JD Vanhoose of Paintsville.
Midee1
05-04-2007, 03:37 PM
I believe "the Guru" is talking about JD Vanhoose of Paintsville.
Oops pardon my ignorance.:o :)
nothing but net
05-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Can somone explain to me, how them players could compete with players such as Darius miller and Scotty Hopson from kentucky.Two top 40 players in the nation in 08. Just confuses me, but i guess its good that eastern kentucky is gettin noticed. The boys on the JBS team [ Stepp and Cox] played against Miller [Mason Co} at Perry Central. last season and Mason only won by 2 points on a last second shot.
RavenBoy
05-04-2007, 10:16 PM
The boys on the JBS team [ Stepp and Cox] played against Miller [Mason Co} at Perry Central. last season and Mason only won by 2 points on a last second shot.JBS played them 1 time and got lucky, If they had played twice and came that close then I would agree with you but if your gonna play just once you cant say JBS is as good as Mason.
nothing but net
05-04-2007, 10:52 PM
JBS played them 1 time and got lucky, If they had played twice and came that close then I would agree with you but if your gonna play just once you cant say JBS is as good as Mason. I said they can compete with these players.
JBS played them 1 time and got lucky, If they had played twice and came that close then I would agree with you but if your gonna play just once you cant say JBS is as good as Mason.
These two teams may play in the 5th 3rd tourney next year....I think JBS will win this game should they meet next year. JBS brings back their team and Mason lost some starters. By the way Miller is a great player for Mason and I hope he does go to UK>>
BLUEGRASS-RULES
05-05-2007, 09:08 AM
IMO Stepp is no way the player Landon Slone is. Cox is better than Stepp. More of a team player. Slone is the all around player. 18 to 22 points (28 to 32 on anyother team) 10 to 12 rebounds per game (same on any other team) 6 to 8 assists per game (same on anyother team) 2 or 3 blocks (same on any other team) 2 or 3 steals (same on any other team)
RavenBoy
05-05-2007, 05:51 PM
IMO Stepp is no way the player Landon Slone is. Cox is better than Stepp. More of a team player. Slone is the all around player. 18 to 22 points (28 to 32 on anyother team) 10 to 12 rebounds per game (same on any other team) 6 to 8 assists per game (same on anyother team) 2 or 3 blocks (same on any other team) 2 or 3 steals (same on any other team)I dont care too much about the way Stepps act but he has size and has good ball handling skills.
BasketBallonlyfan
05-05-2007, 07:37 PM
I dont understand what this statement at the bottom of the list means, "PREPHOOPS Note: Rick Bolus player rankings are based on college potential and players can move up or down in rankings over a period of time." Where it said based on college potential, does that mean the players that he thinks will play in college, or is that the actual player rankings for the state?
fly on the wall
05-05-2007, 08:48 PM
I dont care too much about the way Stepps act but he has size and has good ball handling skills. and he has all the plays set up for him. That helps.
I dont understand what this statement at the bottom of the list means, "PREPHOOPS Note: Rick Bolus player rankings are based on college potential and players can move up or down in rankings over a period of time." Where it said based on college potential, does that mean the players that he thinks will play in college, or is that the actual player rankings for the state?
I think he means that some players may improve more than others before next year and that the rankings may change.
-STAT-
05-05-2007, 09:32 PM
Landon Slone should no way be 19th on that list and Stepp should no way be 9th on that list either. Should be the other way around and then Landon even moving up higher and even Clark moving down lower. Cox should be up there very high as well, whoever thinks he shouldnt be is crazy. Dont know too much about the Josh Crawford kid though, but it looks like he is a very talented player to be listed 14th on the list.
Stepp could quiet possibly be the most overrated player in state history, thats my honest opinion.
I guess there is reasons for that, I guess if I had the connections he has I'd probabily milk it for all its worth also.
TheBrahmaBull
05-06-2007, 05:02 PM
Stepp is a good player, that is a fact.
nothing but net
05-06-2007, 07:34 PM
Stepp is a good player, that is a fact. He is a very good player, but he is a very selfish player. He has all the people around him that can make him look good. They use the other players to make him look good. The ball is always in his hands. If he played for a coach that was not related to him, would he be as good? I don't think so. He would have to play some defense and he would have to pass the ball. Every play would not be set up for him and he would not take as many shots. Thats a fact!
He is a very good player, but he is a very selfish player. He has all the people around him that can make him look good. They use the other players to make him look good. The ball is always in his hands. If he played for a coach that was not related to him, would he be as good? I don't think so. He would have to play some defense and he would have to pass the ball. Every play would not be set up for him and he would not take as many shots. Thats a fact!Thats about the way I was thinking. He's good but could be better if he had a coach that would discipline him when he makes bad and selfish decisions. Thats why I believe there are more than 8 players better than him in the state, there's more than 8 players better than him in eastern ky and that does include his teammate Cox.
Doc John
05-06-2007, 09:59 PM
Landon Slone and Clark Stepp both play on the same AAU team and Clark starts, and Landon doesnt, sure Clark can sometimes be overrated but you goota give it him he is a hek of a player, and Landon seems to play too quiet anymore he falls back in the mix and lets JD Vanhoose and Ferguson this year take over, and they sometimes couldnt and needed him but he played scared. IMO
OffTheHook
05-07-2007, 07:57 AM
Who is the Coach of this team?
nothing but net
05-07-2007, 08:24 AM
Who is the Coach of this team? His uncle Gary and his uncle Jim are his coaches. His dad also has a great input.
nothing but net
05-07-2007, 08:34 AM
His uncle Gary and his uncle Jim are his coaches. His dad also has a great input. Sorry, I guess you were talking about the AAU team. I think it is a Derrick Smith 17U.team. Where he only averages 6 points a game
Tubby Hater
05-07-2007, 08:07 PM
Stepp and Cox are ranked high because they won this year. When you win and get to Rupp it opens peoples eyes. Slone has barely gotten out of the District in his 3 years.
Sorry, I guess you were talking about the AAU team. I think it is a Derrick Smith 17U.team. Where he only averages 6 points a game
Thats six points a game against the top competition in the country. How many assists is he averaging per game? Do you have that answer? Is it always about points? Obviously not because Clark is right around 5-6 or ever more assists per game. Isn't that what a point guard is supposed to do? I have seen Clark's game become so much more polished with him at the point this spring. He is breaking people down, hitting his mid range jumper, and DISHING the ball off. He is also making very good decisions with the basketball. One thing i love about his game is that he can penetrate, draw the defense, and help create offense for his team (spot up shooters, big men on the block). However, I feel that Clark may struggle with this summer is finishing around the basket with post players on every team standing around 6'9" - 6'10". He also may have some trouoble against quicker, stronger, more athletic guards but I don't really see that being a big problem. (He went around Nick Britt from WC when he wanted to in the state tourney). I have a very strong feeling that Mr. Stepp will get a nice division one college scholarship out of his summer play on the circuit. That's just my opinion.....
J. R. VanHoose
05-07-2007, 09:38 PM
When you win and get to Rupp it opens peoples eyes.
That is a very true statement!!!!
Tubby Hater
05-07-2007, 09:59 PM
That is a very true statement!!!!
JR, you are a perfect example of this. You made it to the big show and really shined while on the big stage. If Slone can lead his team to Rupp this year he will get his chance as well, but getting beat early in the post season does nothing but raise questions about your ability and playing in Eastern Ky kids have to make it to Rupp to raise eyebrows
thedarkside
05-08-2007, 12:35 AM
Thats six points a game against the top competition in the country. How many assists is he averaging per game? Do you have that answer? Is it always about points? Obviously not because Clark is right around 5-6 or ever more assists per game. Isn't that what a point guard is supposed to do? I have seen Clark's game become so much more polished with him at the point this spring. He is breaking people down, hitting his mid range jumper, and DISHING the ball off. He is also making very good decisions with the basketball. One thing i love about his game is that he can penetrate, draw the defense, and help create offense for his team (spot up shooters, big men on the block). However, I feel that Clark may struggle with this summer is finishing around the basket with post players on every team standing around 6'9" - 6'10". He also may have some trouoble against quicker, stronger, more athletic guards but I don't really see that being a big problem. (He went around Nick Britt from WC when he wanted to in the state tourney). I have a very strong feeling that Mr. Stepp will get a nice division one college scholarship out of his summer play on the circuit. That's just my opinion.....
your obviously from jbs
EyesInTheStands
05-08-2007, 02:04 PM
Over rated!!!! and Connections!!!!!!, how does one go from All-State as a Fresh.....to getting lost in the crowd. It is a coaches job to get his players notices, but I think sometimes they get too involved and destroy a player. I think the rankings are over rated in general, all these rating do is destroy any potential that a player may have. The players are fortunated that there are double doors going into the gym or we would have to play on the outside courts. JMO.
J. R. VanHoose
05-08-2007, 02:33 PM
JR, you are a perfect example of this. You made it to the big show and really shined while on the big stage. If Slone can lead his team to Rupp this year he will get his chance as well, but getting beat early in the post season does nothing but raise questions about your ability and playing in Eastern Ky kids have to make it to Rupp to raise eyebrows
You must remember too that rankings are just someone's opinion of you and maybe how you played in two or three games or in a summer setting where you may have not even played with your high school team. College coaches know who can play, and they don't need rating systems for that. That is kind of like the CATS testing that all schools across the state do. How can you really rank a school and base its funding on how kids do on one test? What if the kid is not a good test taker? What if the kid dislikes the teacher giving them the test and anxiety sets in? You punish the school system for the one test. Rankings should be made during the regular basketball season as these "scouts" can see these kids play in their team system, and in a settign where they are comfortable to perform. Just my two cents!!!!!
Tubby Hater
05-08-2007, 10:15 PM
You must remember too that rankings are just someone's opinion of you and maybe how you played in two or three games or in a summer setting where you may have not even played with your high school team. College coaches know who can play, and they don't need rating systems for that. That is kind of like the CATS testing that all schools across the state do. How can you really rank a school and base its funding on how kids do on one test? What if the kid is not a good test taker? What if the kid dislikes the teacher giving them the test and anxiety sets in? You punish the school system for the one test. Rankings should be made during the regular basketball season as these "scouts" can see these kids play in their team system, and in a settign where they are comfortable to perform. Just my two cents!!!!!
I agree with that, and a lot of these scouts never see kids in Eastern Ky, in fact a lot of them never see kids outside their area. That goes back to what I said earlier that it is so important for players in our area to make it to the big show in Rupp.
nothing but net
05-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Thats six points a game against the top competition in the country. How many assists is he averaging per game? Do you have that answer? Is it always about points? Obviously not because Clark is right around 5-6 or ever more assists per game. Isn't that what a point guard is supposed to do? I have seen Clark's game become so much more polished with him at the point this spring. He is breaking people down, hitting his mid range jumper, and DISHING the ball off. He is also making very good decisions with the basketball. One thing i love about his game is that he can penetrate, draw the defense, and help create offense for his team (spot up shooters, big men on the block). However, I feel that Clark may struggle with this summer is finishing around the basket with post players on every team standing around 6'9" - 6'10". He also may have some trouoble against quicker, stronger, more athletic guards but I don't really see that being a big problem. (He went around Nick Britt from WC when he wanted to in the state tourney). I have a very strong feeling that Mr. Stepp will get a nice division one college scholarship out of his summer play on the circuit. That's just my opinion..... Assists? I'd guess not many. He has never passed the ball much, and was told not to by his uncles.
all_region_player
05-09-2007, 05:59 PM
Tate Cox is better than Clark Stepp...he can shoot better, handle the ball better, and is the best decision maker on the team.
Looks good but I wouldn't put Cox that far up.
Tate Cox is better than Clark Stepp...he can shoot better, handle the ball better, and is the best decision maker on the team.Oh yeah w/out a doubt imo. Stepp does have a size advantage but Cox will probabily grow more as he gets older.
your obviously from jbs
Nope I'm not from JBS. Not even close. Just my take of his game up to this point in the spring.
Survivor
05-10-2007, 12:55 AM
Nope I'm not from JBS. Not even close. Just my take of his game up to this point in the spring.
You really think people believe that you're not from JBS? Give me a break... who else would be watching spring basketball and commenting on Clark if you were not a family member? I must say he will never play D1. Alice Lloyd bound and you know it.
nobody
05-10-2007, 05:07 PM
You really think people believe that you're not from JBS? Give me a break... who else would be watching spring basketball and commenting on Clark if you were not a family member? I must say he will never play D1. Alice Lloyd bound and you know it.:thumpsup:
fly on the wall
05-14-2007, 11:04 PM
:thumpsup: Clark runs JBS. If he doesn't like another player, they don't play. If he has trouble with some body, THEY get called to the office. Just the way it is.
fly on the wall
05-19-2007, 09:22 AM
Nope I'm not from JBS. Not even close. Just my take of his game up to this point in the spring. yeah right .uncle Irv. Thats all of the brothers take.
Doughnut23
05-19-2007, 12:28 PM
Did anyone from the 13th make it
yeah right .uncle Irv. Thats all of the brothers take.
Uncle Irv lol nope sorry thats not me...im just a person who loves the game and keeps up with local kids on how they play throughout the summer. Also I would like to point out that Landon Slone has been having a very solid summer so far. Keep up the good work boys.
jumpshot
05-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Uncle Irv lol nope sorry thats not me...im just a person who loves the game and keeps up with local kids on how they play throughout the summer. Also I would like to point out that Landon Slone has been having a very solid summer so far. Keep up the good work boys. They play on the same AAU team. If you know what Stepp is doing, you will also know what Slone is doing
SEKYscout
05-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Did anyone from the 13th make it
Josh Crawford from Corbin. I'm from Corbin, but I was unable to see ANY Corbin games last year due to me playing ball up at my college and having no time to come home and watch. What is the run-down on Crawford? Anyone know? Thanks.
SportsFan80
05-21-2007, 11:04 PM
I personally dont think there should be rankings for players or teams for that matter. When most teams and players get ranked high they get a big head and think they are unbeatable, and when teams are ranked low, they start thinking, we should be higher or we must not be good enough to be ranked at all in most cases. I think they should just play the game and not worry about ranking these kids or teams. It should be more about team play instead individual accomplishment.
Harlan Man
05-22-2007, 09:53 AM
Josh Crawford from Corbin. I'm from Corbin, but I was unable to see ANY Corbin games last year due to me playing ball up at my college and having no time to come home and watch. What is the run-down on Crawford? Anyone know? Thanks.These Bolus rankings are a little bit ridiculous. He has 2 kids from Pineville and one from middlesboro in the top 50, but nobody from Cumberland on the list.
BasketBallonlyfan
05-22-2007, 11:45 AM
I still dont think was intended to be a list of the top players in the state. If it was, why didnt the note at the bottom of the list say that instead of saying the players are ranked based on college potential.
Grand Slam
05-24-2007, 09:34 AM
I guess there is reasons for that, I guess if I had the connections he has I'd probabily milk it for all its worth also.
you must be from knott central or hazard
Actually I'm not from eighter, I'm more of a 15th region guy but I have seen alot of these kids play.
whodey85
06-20-2007, 12:27 PM
i think landon slone has a lot to prove in his senior season as of right now u have to put stepp ahead of him just becuase of the fact that stepp has won his regional tournament and played on rupp areana floor slone hasnt rlly did any thing in the tournament since his freshman year
MakeItRain23
06-21-2007, 12:35 AM
Desmond Johnson of Cumberland is better than Day of Pineville and Collins of JBS and I strongly believe is better than Crawford of Corbin.
TheFan3
06-21-2007, 12:55 AM
i herd landon was staring and adv. like 20points or more a game. thats what i was told. but lando is a good player sometimes hogs the ball. jd is good but last season i think lando hoged the ball alot and didnt let the other pple get the ball.
Scotty doesn't know
06-21-2007, 01:17 AM
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According to your list, you have to go down to 33 (I believe) to get to the first Valley player, Ashley Hatfield. The highest Valley player is not ranked in the top 30, which impresses me alot about the team. It lets me know that the team will outplay you not just one player.
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