Most Underrated/Unappreciated player all time at your School/Alma Mata??

[Moe]

Most Underrated/Unappreciated player all time at your School/Alma Mata??

Just figued it would make for some good discussions.

[LUMBERJACK'06]

south floyds adam tackett was udeerrated player because he was a maniac on defense and always gave his best effort

[Moe]

south floyds adam tackett was udeerrated player because he was a maniac on defense and always gave his best effort
I agree, I'm not sure he was all that underrated but all the other things you said were very true. He was a good player for the raiders. If Where talking South Floyd the honor would have to go to John Meade. Played in the shadow of both Mikey Hall and Rusty Tackett. He could do it all on all sides of the floor. I believe he was a much better player than Tackett, but theres not a whole lot of players in the history of the region who had the resume that Mikey had.

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

When I was in school, I thought Asher Maynard from Sheldon Clark was the most underrated player. He was a great shooter and pulled us through in 2004 many times. He was key in the success we had that year.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

Tristen Davis of Pike Central.

[Wyatt Earp]

The fans may have thought that some of these names were underrated however I doubt if the coaching staffs ever thought this. Many times the players that score the points are the ones that get lots of attention and it has been that way for a long time. John Meade was just about as good as anyone when he played in high school in the 15th. Adam Tackett went at evrything with 100 per cent and they both were dedicated to their team at all costs which is also underrated by so many.

[thedarkside]

tim parks clay county , justin amburgey knott central

[state 1]

Craig Ratliff of Paintsville.

Of the state champion Paintsville team, all the hoopla seems to go to JR Vanhoose. JR was undoubted a great player, but Craig was also very successful. It seems that when anything is discussed about that winning team, no-one is mentioned but JR. Craig was very instrumental in their State Championship win, and went on play PROFESSIONAL baseball with the Orioles, a feat that very very few have accomplished from eastern KY.

He doesn't seem to be given opportunities to coach in either baseball or basketball as some of the other past players have. I have seen him coach and I think he does a great job, I would love to have my kids play for him.

He very rarely gets recoginition for his accomplishments from the Paintsville people.

[rallo316]

Gary Fields and Dave Edmonds (Pike Central) 1994.

[rallo316]

not my alma mata but Nathan Burger (Shelby valley) 1993 and 1994.

[Grand Slam]

Tristen Davis of Pike Central.

lol

[Grand Slam]

brent perkins when hurt was the so called allstar at cordia

[The Guru]

Craig Ratliff of Paintsville.

Of the state champion Paintsville team, all the hoopla seems to go to JR Vanhoose. JR was undoubted a great player, but Craig was also very successful. It seems that when anything is discussed about that winning team, no-one is mentioned but JR. Craig was very instrumental in their State Championship win, and went on play PROFESSIONAL baseball with the Orioles, a feat that very very few have accomplished from eastern KY.

He doesn't seem to be given opportunities to coach in either baseball or basketball as some of the other past players have. I have seen him coach and I think he does a great job, I would love to have my kids play for him.

He very rarely gets recoginition for his accomplishments from the Paintsville people.
From that team, I would go with Matt Ratliff. he could have averaged 20+ points a game for any other school.
but really.....noone on that team should be in this thread. What made them successful, is that everyone.....players, coaches and even manager Billy Fraley, knew exactly what there "ROLE" was.

[GRIZZ]

Personally I would go with Josh McKenzie from Paintsville. Big body bruiser, powerful, and had a nice touch on the ball. But like Guru said, everyone wasn't worried about personal stats and that is what made them so successful, they were just focused on winning.

[J. R. VanHoose]

Craig Ratliff of Paintsville.

Of the state champion Paintsville team, all the hoopla seems to go to JR Vanhoose. JR was undoubted a great player, but Craig was also very successful. It seems that when anything is discussed about that winning team, no-one is mentioned but JR. Craig was very instrumental in their State Championship win, and went on play PROFESSIONAL baseball with the Orioles, a feat that very very few have accomplished from eastern KY.

He doesn't seem to be given opportunities to coach in either baseball or basketball as some of the other past players have. I have seen him coach and I think he does a great job, I would love to have my kids play for him.

He very rarely gets recoginition for his accomplishments from the Paintsville people.


Not sure I would put Craig in this category either. He signed a letter of intent to play college basketball at a D1 school - UNC Greensboro and he had offers from other schools, so I am pretty sure people noticed his game and abilities. If he was underrated no one would have seen these skills!!!

[bball fan]

Craig Ratliff of Paintsville.

Of the state champion Paintsville team, all the hoopla seems to go to JR Vanhoose. JR was undoubted a great player, but Craig was also very successful. It seems that when anything is discussed about that winning team, no-one is mentioned but JR. Craig was very instrumental in their State Championship win, and went on play PROFESSIONAL baseball with the Orioles, a feat that very very few have accomplished from eastern KY.

He doesn't seem to be given opportunities to coach in either baseball or basketball as some of the other past players have. I have seen him coach and I think he does a great job, I would love to have my kids play for him.

He very rarely gets recoginition for his accomplishments from the Paintsville people.
He hasn't been given a chance to coach because he is only certified to teach K-4. I don't know why he got a degree to teach at those levels...very strange for someone 6'8 to teach that age of children. It is very difficult for a man to get a job in that age group!

[phs1986]

Gary Fields and Dave Edmonds (Pike Central) 1994.

Gary Fields works at Phelps High School and is very active in the sports programs.... I know this has NOTHING to do with being underrated BUT... Gary is a great person who enjoys being around the kids and sports!! (especially basketball)!!!

[state 1]

From that team, I would go with Matt Ratliff. he could have averaged 20+ points a game for any other school.
but really.....noone on that team should be in this thread. What made them successful, is that everyone.....players, coaches and even manager Billy Fraley, knew exactly what there "ROLE" was.

The thread says "MOST UNAPPRECIATED" players.........when was the last time Craig was recognized for anything at Paintsville.......JR is constantly recognized. Again not taking anything away from JR, he was/is a great player. Just saying Craig had great accomplishments also, and he is rarely/never recognized.

JR, Tucker Howard, Bob Lyons, Matt Ratliff, Jimmy Daniels, Walt Crace, etc. all coaches at Paintsville now, I think all played at Paintsville, and some/all played at the college level. But none of these guys have played at the level that Craig has, and still no recognition for Craig.

[state 1]

He hasn't been given a chance to coach because he is only certified to teach K-4. I don't know why he got a degree to teach at those levels...very strange for someone 6'8 to teach that age of children. It is very difficult for a man to get a job in that age group!

When did Bob Lyons and Tucker Howard get their teaching degree??

[GRIZZ]

The thread says "MOST UNAPPRECIATED" players.........when was the last time Craig was recognized for anything at Paintsville.......JR is constantly recognized. Again not taking anything away from JR, he was/is a great player. Just saying Craig had great accomplishments also, and he is rarely/never recognized.

JR, Tucker Howard, Bob Lyons, Matt Ratliff, Jimmy Daniels, Walt Crace, etc. all coaches at Paintsville now, I think all played at Paintsville, and some/all played at the college level. But none of these guys have played at the level that Craig has, and still no recognition for Craig.

Jimmy Daniels played for Johnson Central. I'm not sure if Craig is teaching or not, but he is coaching softball. I would like to see him get a spot on the baseball and basketball staff. During his time on the diamond he was probably one of the most feared pitchers in the area because of his size and sizzle with a fastball, was on the State All-Tournament team during the Tigers run for the state championship, and has his jersey on the Wall of Fame. I agree he definately deserves a spot on a boys Varsity team as a coach.

[BlueBells]

Jimmy Daniels played for Johnson Central. I'm not sure if Craig is teaching or not, but he is coaching softball. I would like to see him get a spot on the baseball and basketball staff. During his time on the diamond he was probably one of the most feared pitchers in the area because of his size and sizzle with a fastball, was on the State All-Tournament team during the Tigers run for the state championship, and has his jersey on the Wall of Fame. I agree he definately deserves a spot on a boys Varsity team as a coach.


I am not sure, but I am not aware of Craig having the desire to have a coaching position at Paintsville. I am sure that if he wanted a position and went to the AD he would NOT be turned down, from what I see (Jimmy Daniels, JCHS grad) all he has to do is ask.

Paintsville would benefit with his presents in alot of ways.:letsparty

[GRIZZ]

That's what I said, if he wants one then give him one he is very deserving. If he is happy where he's at right now then more power to him, I'm happy for him as well as every other Tiger supporter.

[Lisa Douglas]

Jimmy Daniels didn't do the asking, some else needed him out of their hair and did the behind the scenes asking....LOL!!!.

[meganwillis10]

I like Terry Wright from Valley, all the talk of the akers brothers which they desevered it, I liked watching Terry play.

[bball fan]

Jimmy Daniels played for Johnson Central. I'm not sure if Craig is teaching or not, but he is coaching softball. I would like to see him get a spot on the baseball and basketball staff. During his time on the diamond he was probably one of the most feared pitchers in the area because of his size and sizzle with a fastball, was on the State All-Tournament team during the Tigers run for the state championship, and has his jersey on the Wall of Fame. I agree he definately deserves a spot on a boys Varsity team as a coach.
Paintsville is pretty much at their limit with assistant coaches. There is barely enough room for the players to sit as it is!!!! lol

[state 1]

I am not sure, but I am not aware of Craig having the desire to have a coaching position at Paintsville. I am sure that if he wanted a position and went to the AD he would NOT be turned down, from what I see (Jimmy Daniels, JCHS grad) all he has to do is ask.

Paintsville would benefit with his presents in alot of ways.:letsparty

I know for sure Craig showed interest last year. He was on the baseball field early in the season helping during practice. Then shortly after ....he was gone. For what reason, I don't know.

[Tubby Hater]

tim parks clay county , justin amburgey knott central
Justin Amburgey? Are you kidding?

[Overrated]

tim parks clay county , justin amburgey knott central


Somebody is riding there nuts....

[Redneck]

For Paintsville, I would have to go with Kyle "Gump" Adams from the 96' and 97' teams. He wasn't unappreciated, but he was underrated IMO.

[thepharmacist]

I am not sure, but I am not aware of Craig having the desire to have a coaching position at Paintsville. I am sure that if he wanted a position and went to the AD he would NOT be turned down, from what I see (Jimmy Daniels, JCHS grad) all he has to do is ask.

Paintsville would benefit with his presents in alot of ways.:letsparty what kind of presents would he bring? games bicycles etc? LOL

[The Guru]

I know for sure Craig showed interest last year. He was on the baseball field early in the season helping during practice. Then shortly after ....he was gone. For what reason, I don't know.
I think Craig's work schedule had a lot of impact on his coaching career. he is a great guy and a wonderful coach, I know i have been very impressed with his ability.
I for one have always praised his contributions on the hardwood, and always will.
Wenever BMR decides to hang it up, I believe that Matt Ratliff will be the head coach, and I have a feeling that Craig will be right beside him.

[whos your momma]

I think Craig's work schedule had a lot of impact on his coaching career. he is a great guy and a wonderful coach, I know i have been very impressed with his ability.
I for one have always praised his contributions on the hardwood, and always will.
Wenever BMR decides to hang it up, I believe that Matt Ratliff will be the head coach, and I have a feeling that Craig will be right beside him.


Isn't Craig a pharmaceutical sales representative? Did he stop and start teaching? It would be very hard to be a drug rep and put as much into coaching as what is expected.

[The Guru]

Isn't Craig a pharmaceutical sales representative? Did he stop and start teaching? It would be very hard to be a drug rep and put as much into coaching as what is expected.

I don't think he is teaching. He is coaching some.

[rallo316]

I like Terry Wright from Valley, all the talk of the akers brothers which they desevered it, I liked watching Terry play.
Terry was a good baseball player.

[Grand Slam]

Terry was a good baseball player.

He was a better pitcher than a PG

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

lol

idk whats so funny to you Tristen Davis was a fine ball player. Probley oppose to Brad Lowe and Jamie Hamilton he would be the best shooter ever to come out of Pike Central. At once b-4 Brad Lowe came in he was the leader for most threes in a game.

Also to add another one Lance Bowman and Evan Charles.

[Grand Slam]

[QUOTE=15thRegionSlamaBamma;404077]idk whats so funny to you Tristen Davis was a fine ball player. Probley oppose to Brad Lowe and Jamie Hamilton he would be the best shooter ever to come out of Pike Central. At once b-4 Brad Lowe came in he was the leader for most threes in a game.

Also to add another one Lance Bowman and Evan Charles.[/

Two words role player....... not a threat... Shawn Scott was the man on that team

i agree lance was good but not underated he played college ball at p-ville

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

[quote=15thRegionSlamaBamma;404077]idk whats so funny to you Tristen Davis was a fine ball player. Probley oppose to Brad Lowe and Jamie Hamilton he would be the best shooter ever to come out of Pike Central. At once b-4 Brad Lowe came in he was the leader for most threes in a game.

Also to add another one Lance Bowman and Evan Charles.[/

Two words role player....... not a threat... Shawn Scott was the man on that team

i agree lance was good but not underated he played college ball at p-ville

isnt underrated role players what we are talking about...all three of those players were in the shadows of players. Each one of those players avg. double digits in the seasons that they played a considerable amount. Each was a huge threat but no one keyed on them, ONE reason why Tristen Davis hit huge clutch shots to keep Pike Central in many games. Shawn shot avg around 25 points a game when he played at Central. With out the "role players" that you speak of those teams could have never even gave a team like Pikeville back in those days a run for their money.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

Also if my memory serves me right didn't Lance Bowman play on the Pikeville College team that was rebuilding and made it to the final four of the Naia Tournament when Coach Randy McCoy was there. If any player plays college ball and can contribute to something like that but was in the shadows of one player in high school then sounds like an underrated player in my books.

[Grand Slam]

Also if my memory serves me right didn't Lance Bowman play on the Pikeville College team that was rebuilding and made it to the final four of the Naia Tournament when Coach Randy McCoy was there. If any player plays college ball and can contribute to something like that but was in the shadows of one player in high school then sounds like an underrated player in my books.

nope sir he didn't i know lance personally and he quit playing b4 that team was established the final four team had knox and gaines and all those d1 dropouts

[villefan]

I agree with Grizz and Redneck, Josh McKenzie was a very underrated player, he could have been the star on any team in the state that year. Kyle Adams was the best 6th man in the region that year.

[Redneck]

He was a better pitcher than a PG

:thatsfunn That's funny...