View Full Version : PCB: Pike Central vs Shelby Valley
warriorpride
08-04-2007, 02:12 PM
Lets hear everyones thought on this PCB game.
More Cowbell
08-05-2007, 12:06 AM
Should be a great game between two evenly matched teams. Could possibly be the most competitive contest of the entire Pike County Bowl...
Recent history shows the games have been close:
2006 = SV 12, PC 6
2005 = SV 36, PC 22
2004 = PC 44, SV 38
bigdog
08-05-2007, 11:05 AM
Coach Saunders has done a great job putting some excitement back into the program. This should be a great game to watch. Go Cats!
hawkwild11
08-05-2007, 11:44 AM
this game should one of the better games this year...
GO HAWKS!!!
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-05-2007, 12:42 PM
Pike Central is going to be very tough on the defensive side of the ball w/ 9 returning starters. They have some good numbers and have many kids who are no longer going both ways. Thus I see Pike Central winning this one if they can get their passing game going. The keys to PC in this one will be spreading the ball around, running some Iso and option keeps and simply keeping the Valley defence off balance. On defence I dont think they will have to worry much they are quick, strong and smart. They are hitting hard and working even harder watch out for this bunch of young men they are going to be a force.
roundball gal
08-05-2007, 08:33 PM
McNamee's decision to move Merchant to runningback will speed up and add excitement to their offense. HAWKS BY 3 IN A CLOSE ONE!
kysportsguru
08-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Valley returns 8 starters on both sides of the ball. So they should be pretty good this year. Also their dfefense is going to be very quick and good. this is one of the fastest defenses i've seen in a very long time. I bet anyone that every starter can run their 40 in 5.0 or faster. But anyways back on the game. I think valley will win.
SV: 22
PCC: 8
bigpun
08-06-2007, 03:45 AM
Pike Central's new offense will help them out a lot if their QB can handle the responsibility.
I think it will be one of the closest games all year. At least on paper it appears to be that way.
FOX SPORTS
08-06-2007, 07:05 AM
Valley returns 8 starters on both sides of the ball. So they should be pretty good this year. Also their dfefense is going to be very quick and good. this is one of the fastest defenses i've seen in a very long time. I bet anyone that every starter can run their 40 in 5.0 or faster. But anyways back on the game. I think valley will win.
SV: 22
PCC: 8
I can't imagine either team stopping the other this much.
IMO, this one could be a high scoring shootout.
Capt. DH
08-06-2007, 09:03 AM
I can't imagine either team stopping the other this much.
IMO, this one could be a high scoring shootout.
Or a defensive battle.
More Cowbell
08-06-2007, 02:01 PM
Pike Central is going to be very tough on the defensive side of the ball w/ 9 returning starters. They have some good numbers and have many kids who are no longer going both ways. Thus I see Pike Central winning this one if they can get their passing game going. The keys to PC in this one will be spreading the ball around, running some Iso and option keeps and simply keeping the Valley defence off balance. On defence I dont think they will have to worry much they are quick, strong and smart. They are hitting hard and working even harder watch out for this bunch of young men they are going to be a force.
According to all the other posts on these threads, every team is out there hitting and practicing hard. So I don't think that is going to make the difference in this game. This matchup will likely turn on a big play, like a long touchdown run or a fumble recovery.
pillsburythrowboy
08-08-2007, 02:46 AM
Should be a great game between two evenly matched teams. Could possibly be the most competitive contest of the entire Pike County Bowl...
Recent history shows the games have been close:
2006 = SV 12, PC 6
2005 = SV 36, PC 22
2004 = PC 44, SV 38
Some one please retrive the score for the 2003 game. That was my favorite game of my high school career!
bigpun
08-08-2007, 04:23 AM
Some one please retrive the score for the 2003 game. That was my favorite game of my high school career!
It was your favorite game yet you don't remember the score?
TidesHoss32
08-08-2007, 06:12 AM
:) that cracked me up for some reason, lol..It was your favorite game yet you don't remember the score?
bigpun
08-08-2007, 06:19 AM
:) that cracked me up for some reason, lol..
I'm glad I got your day started off with a laugh.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-08-2007, 11:59 AM
According to all the other posts on these threads, every team is out there hitting and practicing hard. So I don't think that is going to make the difference in this game. This matchup will likely turn on a big play, like a long touchdown run or a fumble recovery.
Pike Central only lost one starter, their MLB on defence so it should be interesting to see how they do.
Oh and their is no way Valley's defensive line can run a 5 flat or under 40 alot of college D Line men cant do that. Plus if they dont have the form they will be on their backs most of the game.
ComeFlyWithMe
08-08-2007, 12:08 PM
Pike Central only lost one starter, their MLB on defence so it should be interesting to see how they do.
Oh and their is no way Valley's defensive line can run a 5 flat or under 40 alot of college D Line men cant do that. Plus if they dont have the form they will be on their backs most of the game.
When did Pike Central's line become the masters of the pancake block? Or when did they become massively strong?
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-08-2007, 12:14 PM
When did Pike Central's line become the masters of the pancake block? Or when did they become massively strong?
it was a sarcastic remark. I was saying that speed isnt everything on the line you have to have tecnique as well. You have to know how to rip, swim do what ever you can to beat the OL to give you LBs a seam to rush. That was my point, but to b honest Pike Central's line is probley the biggest and strongest line that they have had since the 90s.
warriorpride
08-08-2007, 02:03 PM
Some one please retrive the score for the 2003 game. That was my favorite game of my high school career!
2003: Shelby Valley 63 Pike Central 12
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-08-2007, 09:56 PM
2003: Shelby Valley 63 Pike Central 12
was that the one at PC when it rained so bad and they post poned the game like 5 times???
warriorpride
08-08-2007, 09:58 PM
I dunno I got it from the KHSAA scoreboard.
More Cowbell
08-08-2007, 11:18 PM
Pike Central only lost one starter, their MLB on defence so it should be interesting to see how they do.
Oh and their is no way Valley's defensive line can run a 5 flat or under 40 alot of college D Line men cant do that. Plus if they dont have the form they will be on their backs most of the game.
I never said anything about Central's or Valley's D-linemen, so I don't know why you replied with that comment. Whatever.
I was rebutting your earlier argument that Central's defense was going to be a force because they were hitting and working hard at practice. My point was that every team is out there working and hitting hard at practice, so it hardly makes one team special when they are doing it.
I will state again that the game will likely turn on a big play, like a turnover or long TD run. This has been the case a lot in the recent history of this series.
bigpun
08-09-2007, 04:24 AM
Whatever.
I was rebutting your earlier argument that Central's defense was going to be a force because they were hitting and working hard at practice.
Is rebutting when you you reapply a butt that has been torn off?
:thatsfunn
NYY10
08-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I see the score 32-26 in favor of Shelby Valley!!!
More Cowbell
08-09-2007, 08:53 PM
Is rebutting when you you reapply a butt that has been torn off?
:thatsfunn
You tell me, smart guy. Does it look anything like this? :moon:
rallo316
08-10-2007, 08:37 AM
Pike Central if the offense can get on track.
More Cowbell
08-11-2007, 01:20 AM
This will be a tossup between two evenly matched teams, in my opinion. It will come down to the end, but Central is due for a win in this series, so I'll go with them in a close one, 26-20.
TheyKnowMe
08-11-2007, 10:33 AM
I have to take SV in this one
NYY10
08-11-2007, 11:34 AM
what time is kickoff?
More Cowbell
08-11-2007, 12:51 PM
what time is kickoff?
Supposed to be 6 PM on Saturday, Aug 25. First game of the night at Pikeville.
kysportsguru
08-11-2007, 04:39 PM
I'm telling you now that Shelby Valley is going to come to the PCB fired up and ready to play and PCC won't expect it.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-11-2007, 06:14 PM
I never said anything about Central's or Valley's D-linemen, so I don't know why you replied with that comment. Whatever.
I was rebutting your earlier argument that Central's defense was going to be a force because they were hitting and working hard at practice. My point was that every team is out there working and hitting hard at practice, so it hardly makes one team special when they are doing it.
I will state again that the game will likely turn on a big play, like a turnover or long TD run. This has been the case a lot in the recent history of this series.
The comment about the 5.0 DL was a responce to Kysports not you.
And i agree it will come down to the big play.
kysportsguru
08-11-2007, 11:36 PM
I guarantee that SV has 3 players that is faster than Merchant.
winner
08-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Ok this should be no game at all, i have herd all about PC practices and how their preparing to beat SV but i dont care how many practices a day they have they will never have a practice like SV. I have been to all of Valley practices, they practice once a day but the practices they do have u couldn't imagine how hard they are. All of SV players are alot bigger and stronger this season and should come out and not even be considered a game against PC. Merchet is very fast but not the fastest and fall like ne one else if he gets hit SV will come out and win the game
SV: 36
PC:6
warriorpride
08-11-2007, 11:51 PM
Well I thinks its time iv made my prediction on this game considering how "undiscribable" SV practices are, and from what iv seen PC do I think i will give this one to Pike Central. Finial Score:
Pike Central-35
Shelby Valley-28
Ok this should be no game at all, i have herd all about PC practices and how their preparing to beat SV but i dont care how many practices a day they have they will never have a practice like SV. I have been to all of Valley practices, they practice once a day but the practices they do have u couldn't imagine how hard they are. All of SV players are alot bigger and stronger this season and should come out and not even be considered a game against PC. Merchet is very fast but not the fastest and fall like ne one else if he gets hit SV will come out and win the game
SV: 36
PC:6Do you think you are the only ones that are working hard? I can guarantee that Coach Mac has those kids up on the hill working their butts off just as hard as the kids at SV are. And if you have been to every Valley practice then you don't seem to have much time to attend other practices throughout the county so how to you know that you are working the hardest? Valley could actually have the easiest practices.
The amount of effort that a team puts out during practice doesn't show how well they will do in a game. All teams at this time of the year are working as hard as they can!
More Cowbell
08-12-2007, 02:42 PM
The comment about the 5.0 DL was a responce to Kysports not you.
And i agree it will come down to the big play.
We're cool. You had quoted me in that post, but if you say that comment wasn't meant for me then I understand.
I'm glad we do agree on what will decide the game!
More Cowbell
08-12-2007, 02:51 PM
Ok this should be no game at all, i have herd all about PC practices and how their preparing to beat SV but i dont care how many practices a day they have they will never have a practice like SV. I have been to all of Valley practices, they practice once a day but the practices they do have u couldn't imagine how hard they are.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Do you think you are the only ones that are working hard? I can guarantee that Coach Mac has those kids up on the hill working their butts off just as hard as the kids at SV are. And if you have been to every Valley practice then you don't seem to have much time to attend other practices throughout the county so how to you know that you are working the hardest? Valley could actually have the easiest practices.
The amount of effort that a team puts out during practice doesn't show how well they will do in a game. All teams at this time of the year are working as hard as they can!
Beef, you're right, this is exactly what I have been preaching throughout this thread. Everybody gets on here and says their team will win because they are 'working harder then everybody else' or because they 'want it more'. That's bull.
People, every team is out there busting their tails at practice because they want to win that first game. Just because your team is also practicing hard does not make them special, when all the other teams are doing it too.
I guarantee that both Central's and Valley's coaching staffs are working their players very hard, and when it comes time to play the game, the winner will be the team that executes the best and makes the fewest mistakes.
Jimmy Dugan
08-12-2007, 03:21 PM
yeah I think these two team are pretty evenly matched actually.
EKUAlum05
08-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Valley returns 8 starters on both sides of the ball. So they should be pretty good this year. Also their dfefense is going to be very quick and good. this is one of the fastest defenses i've seen in a very long time. I bet anyone that every starter can run their 40 in 5.0 or faster. But anyways back on the game. I think valley will win.
SV: 22
PCC: 8
Or at least the fastest defense you have seen since Valley's last game, when they saw Belfry's defense.
hawkwild11
08-12-2007, 06:10 PM
I guarantee that SV has 3 players that is faster than Merchant.
merchant isnt even the fastest kid at central... he has very good guickness in short area... but in a longer run like 40 or 45 yards central has 2 or 3 kids that can out run him
kysportsguru
08-12-2007, 08:14 PM
Well I think the valley boys are still faster no matter how long the run is.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-12-2007, 10:59 PM
I guarantee that SV has 3 players that is faster than Merchant.
well here is the fact you stated that they ALL run 5.0 or quicker 40s on the defence. Well to be honest their is no way so unless you know for sure then dont make a post like you did. At the Naia level on defence some players dont run a 5 flat 40. So basicly by your statement you are saying they have the quickest defence in high school and NAIA football. What a joke!!!
More Cowbell
08-13-2007, 12:19 AM
yeah I think these two team are pretty evenly matched actually.
Thank you. It's good to hear from someone else on here that doesn't think one of the teams (usually their team) will win in a blowout. Who would you give a slight edge to?
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-13-2007, 01:13 AM
Thank you. It's good to hear from someone else on here that doesn't think one of the teams (usually their team) will win in a blowout. Who would you give a slight edge to?
Well this one will not and i mean no chance SHOULD it be a blow out unless one or the other just comes out not prepared at all in which i do not see either happening. I am going to go with PC by tops 6 points. But, Valley I know is a talented ball team I just think with the new offence it will keep Valley off balance. This game will really depend on the line for each team on both sides of the ball. IMO it is going to be a defencive battle and who ever blows a play like last seasons bad long snap for PC, or makes a big play with an INT or a fumble or a big sack that will be who wins this one. Neither team is a powerhouse and neither team really has an edge. I just hope and pray that both teams come out play their hearts and for gods sake boys keep your heads on straight and DO NOT try to fight. We all know their is bad blood but use that as a reason to bash your opponet into the ground each play and don't let it get to a fist fight be mature its a game just have fun.
As a former player for SV, I do know that Valley had quick linemen that ran around the 4.9-5.2 area. Only 2 of those linemen graduated last year, so I would say they still have a quick D/O-line. I haven't been to any of there practices this year so far. Valley could still have quick linemen if they didn't slack off or they could've stayed in shape, who knows. All I know is that we are going to have to wait until the PCB to see for ourselves. I just wish people from Valley would quit getting on here ans acting like they are the Sh**. If you want to get a point across, then talk with your pads on the field!!!!!
:mad:
bigpun
08-13-2007, 04:19 AM
Do you think you are the only ones that are working hard? I can guarantee that Coach Mac has those kids up on the hill working their butts off just as hard as the kids at SV are. And if you have been to every Valley practice then you don't seem to have much time to attend other practices throughout the county so how to you know that you are working the hardest? Valley could actually have the easiest practices.
The amount of effort that a team puts out during practice doesn't show how well they will do in a game. All teams at this time of the year are working as hard as they can!
What? Mac isn't known for his hard beat you in the dirt practices. I know becuase I played for him and coached under him. If you knew anything about Valley's coach you would understand that their practices are pretty grueling. I am in no way saying they are the toughest in the county but I would rank them pretty high up there.
bigpun
08-13-2007, 04:28 AM
well here is the fact you stated that they ALL run 5.0 or quicker 40s on the defence. Well to be honest their is no way so unless you know for sure then dont make a post like you did. At the Naia level on defence some players dont run a 5 flat 40. So basicly by your statement you are saying they have the quickest defence in high school and NAIA football. What a joke!!!
Let's get one thing straight, at the NAIA level you get a lot of D-1 caliber players that didn't make the grades to get into a D-1 college. Take Pikeville College for instance: I guarantee that every defensive back and every linebacker run under a 5.0 forty. On the D-line you probably have at least two who run under a 5.0 forty. There is 9 out of eleven right there putting a flaw in your statement. Let's say everyone at Valley runs a 4.9 forty exactly, which is under 5.0, they still wouldn't be collectively the fastest defense in KY high school football let alone at the NAIA level.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-13-2007, 05:04 PM
Let's get one thing straight, at the NAIA level you get a lot of D-1 caliber players that didn't make the grades to get into a D-1 college. Take Pikeville College for instance: I guarantee that every defensive back and every linebacker run under a 5.0 forty. On the D-line you probably have at least two who run under a 5.0 forty. There is 9 out of eleven right there putting a flaw in your statement. Let's say everyone at Valley runs a 4.9 forty exactly, which is under 5.0, they still wouldn't be collectively the fastest defense in KY high school football let alone at the NAIA level.
Give me the posts of 40s for Pikeville College and then ill take your statement but untill you have a hard base for your argument then i can not agree w/ u. I know for one here at Cumberland every D- back does not run a 5 flat and one in particular is looking to start and he runs a 5.2 as a MLB.
More Cowbell
08-13-2007, 08:09 PM
What? Mac isn't known for his hard beat you in the dirt practices. I know becuase I played for him and coached under him. If you knew anything about Valley's coach you would understand that their practices are pretty grueling. I am in no way saying they are the toughest in the county but I would rank them pretty high up there.
Just because his practices are grueling does not make Shelby Valley a lock to beat Pike Central. I'm sure they are also practicing hard, and both teams will go out there next Saturday and give it everything they've got.
hawkwild11
08-13-2007, 08:33 PM
i dont care how hard everybody has been practing this is goin to be a game to watch...
will find out saturday just how hard everybody has been practicing...
this is goin to be a game to watch two evenly matched teams i have a feeling this will be one hard hittin game should be something to watch...
NYY10
08-14-2007, 08:57 PM
only 11 days left
More Cowbell
08-14-2007, 09:22 PM
Is this game going to be televised on WYMT, or just the nightcap?
More Cowbell
08-17-2007, 12:18 AM
Can anybody tell me if the Valley-Central game is going to be televised on WYMT? I know the Pikeville game will be, but I was wondering about the opener...
TRAIN85
08-17-2007, 03:59 AM
I would imagine that they might televise it sometime.
GridironDoc
08-17-2007, 11:23 PM
WYMT reported tonight that SV got the best of Perry Central in their final scrimmage. SV scored 4 TD's to Perry's 0. Pike Central and Perry Central scrimmaged last week. Does anyone know the outcome of that scrimmage?
More Cowbell
08-18-2007, 12:49 AM
I would imagine that they might televise it sometime.
I hope so, it would be great for the Valley and Central kids to get some exposure like that.
Jimmy Dugan
08-18-2007, 02:39 PM
Thank you. It's good to hear from someone else on here that doesn't think one of the teams (usually their team) will win in a blowout. Who would you give a slight edge to?
Well from the scrimages I've seen I may give a slight edge to valley, but in my opinion it's still a toss up.
More Cowbell
08-18-2007, 03:16 PM
Well from the scrimages I've seen I may give a slight edge to valley, but in my opinion it's still a toss up.
I agree that it's a toss-up. I would've gone with the home team, but since it's a neutral field I don't know who should get the edge. Should be a good one.
I'm not sure you can put much stock in scrimmages, but according to some posters on here Valley has looked pretty good. Have you seen Valley or Central (or both) so far this summer?
Jimmy Dugan
08-19-2007, 12:08 PM
I agree that it's a toss-up. I would've gone with the home team, but since it's a neutral field I don't know who should get the edge. Should be a good one.
I'm not sure you can put much stock in scrimmages, but according to some posters on here Valley has looked pretty good. Have you seen Valley or Central (or both) so far this summer?
I have seen both. Valley looked really good at times, and Pike Central has really adjusted well to the new offense. It should be a fun game to watch.
PLAYBOY5
08-19-2007, 01:12 PM
Central...34-14.
TidesHoss32
08-19-2007, 07:55 PM
Im thinking Central 60-58, lol..its going to look like a basketball score..should be a fun one though!
More Cowbell
08-20-2007, 12:27 AM
Central...34-14.
No way Central (or Valley, for that matter) wins by that much. These two teams are too closely matched for that kind of margin to happen. I see the game being won by a single touchdown.
bigpun
08-20-2007, 04:05 AM
SV wins by no more than 2 TD's.
More Cowbell
08-21-2007, 10:09 PM
Not much longer till this battle gets going. Should be a great one!
redeye36
08-22-2007, 02:12 PM
Not much longer till this battle gets going. Should be a great one!
I agree, its going be a great game........We'll see who comes out to play and so that shall be the winner ...
Old School
08-22-2007, 06:35 PM
I just seen where WYMT will replay this game Sunday at noon.
Noexcuses
08-22-2007, 06:47 PM
With the nice field and alot of boys to choose from I look for that school to explode someday>
More Cowbell
08-22-2007, 11:57 PM
With the nice field and alot of boys to choose from I look for that school to explode someday>
I assume you're talking about Pike Central. Not being sarcastic, but when do you foresee this explosion happening? I'm not sure if you'll ever see sustained success from any of the other county teams besides Belfry.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-23-2007, 01:37 AM
I assume you're talking about Pike Central. Not being sarcastic, but when do you foresee this explosion happening? I'm not sure if you'll ever see sustained success from any of the other county teams besides Belfry.
Im pretty sure he is refering to Valley since they got the turf field.
NYY10
08-23-2007, 03:42 PM
I say Dillon Hughes from Valley will have 2 TD's or maybe even more!!
More Cowbell
08-23-2007, 11:45 PM
With the nice field and alot of boys to choose from I look for that school to explode someday>
Im pretty sure he is refering to Valley since they got the turf field.
You may be right about his comment, I wasn't thinking in terms of the new turf field. Actually, I think both schools have nice stadiums.
I assumed he was speaking of PC due to the second part of the comment. Central has a much higher enrollment than Valley and would thus have many more boys to draw their sports teams from.
bigpun
08-24-2007, 06:14 AM
PC stadium may be nice but the field isn't worth crap in my opinion. Boys at PC don't like to play football. All those boys and no one will play for some reason.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
08-24-2007, 12:03 PM
PC stadium may be nice but the field isn't worth crap in my opinion. Boys at PC don't like to play football. All those boys and no one will play for some reason.
couldn't agree more its a shame to see how crap the field is and how much money they have put into that field. Also with the boys the numbers are up this year so maybe everything will turn around fo rthe better.
More Cowbell
08-24-2007, 11:09 PM
PC stadium may be nice but the field isn't worth crap in my opinion. Boys at PC don't like to play football. All those boys and no one will play for some reason.
Why do you think that is? Do you think it's because of the crappy field, because they don't like the coach, or is there some other reason?
Not being sarcastic, just wondering if you might know the reasons why they don't want to play. You too, Slammabamma, if you have any insights on this.
ComeFlyWithMe
08-25-2007, 01:26 PM
Well, after 3 pages of debates, the night is here, I'm going with Shelby Valley in a 2 touchdown victory, 33-21. I'd also like to say good luck to the girls competing in the Ms. Pike County Bowl, and VERY MUCH good luck to my girlfriend who is competing in it, Taylor Mullins.
NYY10
08-25-2007, 04:21 PM
Go Valley!!!!!!!!!
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