Letcher Central 27 - Greenup Co. 20

[jammin' jamey]

Final.

[PLAYBOY5]

Big, Big, Big road VICTORY for the Cougars! Way to rebound guys and congrats!

[37cougar]

Cougars Played a great game and i cant wait till next friday! Congrats all cougars!

[UKisN1]

Cougars about let it slip away. Fatigue and key penalties played a big part. Most have better run game to put it away in the 4th.

Overall, big turnaround from the Hazard game. Much improved in all facets of the game.

[LCC_Cougar]

I was really excited to pick up the paper and read the box score from this game.

Congrats Cougars!:letsparty

[KYcoalminer]

I am a big as LCC fan as any, but just because we beat greenup, does not take care of the many issues that face the program. Perry Central, bourbon, and east ridge are the only other games we can win just because those teams are terrible. Which only gives 1 district win. The numbers are there, the facilities are there, but the only thing is lacking is the coaching staff. Am I alone in that respect?

[red-neck-fan]

I heard that LCC is a joke. Someone told me that they have a teribble staff, at least most of them. Many people have told me that some of the staff has been in trouble with legal matters. How can this happen? I also was told that LCC didn't practice in full gear but maybe one day in the last 3 weeks. If this is true, then no wonder the OL and DL are out of shape. Also, why does the head coach keep his job when this much chaos is happening? I guess it's just like people have told me, "Mountain politics" at its best.

[red-neck-fan]

:rockon: :Puke:

Are you kidding me?

[JBIRD.#64]

i think the cougars would be a great team if they would work more on the physics

[UKisN1]

Physics?

[PLAYBOY5]

People can say what they want too about LCC and there coaching staff. I know alot of these guys as some of them are my close personal friends and will get to know alot better over the upcoming years, and I know how much time they put into the program! So they lost to a VERY GOOD Hazard team..IT HAPPENS! It is called football and people are ready to jump the boat on them. They played awful..and guess what..IT HAPPENS! Every coach and team will have games like that, and it just so happened that they had there's the first game of the season against a team that you can't play that way to beat. LCC in 2 years will be a force, so mark it down..2 years!! Coaches, keep working hard as I am sure your boys will and good things happen in the end and Best of Luck the rest of the season!

[NYY10]

Congrats LC

[HazzBeen]

I heard that LCC is a joke. Someone told me that they have a teribble staff, at least most of them. Many people have told me that some of the staff has been in trouble with legal matters. How can this happen? I also was told that LCC didn't practice in full gear but maybe one day in the last 3 weeks. If this is true, then no wonder the OL and DL are out of shape. Also, why does the head coach keep his job when this much chaos is happening? I guess it's just like people have told me, "Mountain politics" at its best.

We all go through background checks just like every other coach. Looks like you are hearing a bunch of stuff. I am not going to waste my time reponding to the other garbage, because we go full pads every week at least one time maybe two.

[HazzBeen]

I am a big as LCC fan as any, but just because we beat greenup, does not take care of the many issues that face the program. Perry Central, bourbon, and east ridge are the only other games we can win just because those teams are terrible. Which only gives 1 district win. The numbers are there, the facilities are there, but the only thing is lacking is the coaching staff. Am I alone in that respect?

If you got all the answers then please come up and share them with us. We practice every day @ 4.

[KYcoalminer]

Full pads at least once a week. 99% of teams in KY go full pads 2-3 days a week, unless there is a heat issue. Now, I am not saying anything is wrong with full pads one day a week, if it works, but it does'nt seem to be. also, i keep hearing that LCC is coming around and 2 more years and we will be a force.

Year 1 - 4-6
Year 2 - 5-5
Year 3 - ? probably 4-6

Does this show improvement? I don't think so. Yes, they got one more year in the second year, but the key fact here is that THEY HAVE NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD I only say this because I want them to suceed, but from what I hear and see, whats in place now is not working. Once again, [U]THEY HAVE NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD

[HazzBeen]

Full pads at least once a week. 99% of teams in KY go full pads 2-3 days a week, unless there is a heat issue. Now, I am not saying anything is wrong with full pads one day a week, if it works, but it does'nt seem to be. also, i keep hearing that LCC is coming around and 2 more years and we will be a force.

Year 1 - 4-6
Year 2 - 5-5
Year 3 - ? probably 4-6

Does this show improvement? I don't think so. Yes, they got one more year in the second year, but the key fact here is that THEY HAVE NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD I only say this because I want them to suceed, but from what I hear and see, whats in place now is not working. Once again, [U]THEY HAVE NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD


There has been a heat issue every week of practice this year. 99% of team DO NOT go full pads 3 times a week. Most go on Tuesday and Wednesday if they even do that. Some teams never do it because kids tackle low when they have pants on, which causes injuries to their own players. Me,personally, I prefer shouder pads and helmets only. It teaches kids to tackle and block the right way, and not to dive at their feet. I am sorry if you do not like the way we coach at LCC but we give it everything we have and our kids do too. No we have not beaten a team with a winning record yet but we will eventually. I feel like we can win the rest of the ball games this season. Like I said earlier, don't hide behind a screen and bash us. Come up to the field and do it.

[Windsprint]

LCC is improving. that's all you can ask of any program. If some of you would think back a few years --you would know that powerhouse programs like Bell Co and Rockcastle weren't always at the level theu are now. Some of you say you are fans----a fan is someone who SUPPORTS their school's program. Someone who SUPPORTS the coach's and players. Someone who SUPPORTS evrything at a specific school. I AM A FAN-GO COUGARS

[KYcoalminer]

I am a hug cougar fan, but just don't see this improvement that everyone talks about? Where is the improvement evident??? I see them beating teams that they should and losing to everyone else. I hope that I am proved wrong this year because I would love to see it. 9-1 would be awesome. But I just dont see it happening because of certain things.

[finepoint]

LCC is improving. that's all you can ask of any program. If some of you would think back a few years --you would know that powerhouse programs like Bell Co and Rockcastle weren't always at the level theu are now. Some of you say you are fans----a fan is someone who SUPPORTS their school's program. Someone who SUPPORTS the coach's and players. Someone who SUPPORTS evrything at a specific school. I AM A FAN-GO COUGARS

It's OK to question authority.

[formerallamerican11]

What's a few years mean? Rockcastle and Bell have been pretty solid for at least the last 10 years. Also they didn't combine three schools into one anytime recently. Like I stated earlier Whitesburg and Neon both had teams in 2000-2005 that would bury this team. Where did all the talent go or is there any talent there? I just watch high school football and evaulate all teams. I'm just saying they had two good coaches at those schools before they combined and now neither is coaching.

[ComeFlyWithMe]

When you all have the coaching resume that Hilliard does, then you all can question his coaching, he is one of the best coaches ever in Kentucky, alongside of Haywood. Hilliard was a guy I couldn't wait to play for when I was at Virgie, but then ended up leaving SV, I would have loved to play for him. So until you all win the # of games he did, I wouldn't question his coaching techniques or who is on his staff.

[Football Widow]

In my opinion red neck fan and ky coal miner has made some very valid points. I agree that the whole LCC football program is a complete joke. They just got rid of a coach this year due to political reasons and he was probably one of the best assistant coaches in the state.You can't keep replacing coaches with family members just cause they need a job. Someone took the words right out of my mouth when they said "Mountain Politics". I agree that Coach Howard has proven that he can get a team to win a state championship, but it also takes a collective staff to do this. If someone could do it on his own, then why even have assistants? I think it will be hard for LCC to keep on using the same old line of we are still "building" our program when the Freshman that began at LCC with be seniors. I hope they can get it together.

[red-neck-fan]

I am not originally from Letcher County, but work with some people who are, and they have stated the above mentioned problems of the program. As far as Coach Howard goes, he was an awesome coach for decades, but when was the last year he won a state championship? Wasn't this also when he had the prime kids from Pike County as well. No one that I have talked to has ever doubted what he has done and his record has proven it, but what has he done lately? what about when he was at Shelby Valley? How successful were they then? What about the rest of the staff? What have they ever done? I'm not claiming to be a football coach, just a fan, so why does Hazzbeen get so upset? Does he coach at LCC, and if so, then maybe he can tell everyone here on the site what is going on. Don't take it personally, it's just constructive criticism...:shh:

[red-neck-fan]

Hey coach, it's the talk coming from the community. You're right, it might be a bunch of garbage, but this is what is comming out of Letcher County by fans who've been former WHS and FNHS fans for decades as well. If you are a coach, what positions do you coach? What are your previous coaching record and resume? How many state championships have you won as a coach? Coach Howard is a legend. Are you?

[red-neck-fan]

I think it's something like 15-52 total number of wins by opponents beaten by LCC over the last 2 seasons.

[red-neck-fan]

By the way, congrats to LCC for their victory. I hope they do well, and I hope they have continued success. I support all of our mountain teams, it's just that there are TONS of NEGATIVE comments comming from within... I apologize if I have spoken out of turn, or if I have hurt any feelings, but there IS SOMETHING GOING ON THERE!!! I don't know what, but there is something there.

[red-neck-fan]

It's OK to question authority.

It is isn't it. And Under whose authority? :devilflam

[HazzBeen]

Hey coach, it's the talk coming from the community. You're right, it might be a bunch of garbage, but this is what is comming out of Letcher County by fans who've been former WHS and FNHS fans for decades as well. If you are a coach, what positions do you coach? What are your previous coaching record and resume? How many state championships have you won as a coach? Coach Howard is a legend. Are you?

Red Neck Fan, I will tell you what, come up and I will introduce myself to you. No, I have not won any state championships but I have won a national championship as a player in college. I coached 3 years in college before coming to high school. I am sure people are upset outside of the program, and they have a right to be because we have not won any important football games yet. I feel like my dad has proven himself throughout the years to be a winning football coach. The coach that left was a great coach, and I learned a lot from him but some things happened and he couldn't be with us this year. In saying that, I feel that we have a more than capable staff here at LCC and we are doing our best to make this into a winning program. Do you think we are trying to lose football games? I wish some of you would take on coaching for a year or so. I think your outlook would change a little. The coaches before at WHS and FN were great coaches! However, only one game was one between the three schools when they combined. Red-Neck Fan, maybe you can come up and share some of your insight? Maybe you are a legend. Are you? Are legends the only people that are allowed to coach. If so, how would anyone ever become one. You have to start off somewhere. Anyone can sit behind a screen and bash the program. Why don't you come up today at 4:00 and tell us what you think?

[HazzBeen]

What's a few years mean? Rockcastle and Bell have been pretty solid for at least the last 10 years. Also they didn't combine three schools into one anytime recently. Like I stated earlier Whitesburg and Neon both had teams in 2000-2005 that would bury this team. Where did all the talent go or is there any talent there? I just watch high school football and evaulate all teams. I'm just saying they had two good coaches at those schools before they combined and now neither is coaching.

They combined in 05, so that couldn't happen. In 2004 Neon was 0-10 and Whiteburg was 1-9. In 2003 Neon was 3-7. In 2002 Neon was 3-6. You sound like someone who is still stuck in the Whitesburg and Neon days. It is now LCC and we play as one team.

[Windsprint]

Well said Hazzbeen. Keep looking to the future. It amazes me how people can always find negative things to say. I call it JEALOUSY because apparently they have nothing better to do than put people down. You need to remember that you and your players need to keep each others backs. These are the ones you can depend on. These "negative" people will jump on the bandwagon when the victories start adding up---they always do. keep your head high----YOU WILL BECOME A CHAMPION.

[jammin' jamey]

Sounds like a good stopping point for this thread. It's off track and no longer discussing LCC/Greenup. If anyone would like to start and thread about the state of LCC football, feel free - please keep it constructive!