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BlackcatAlum
09-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Who is the most underrated and overrated teams?
Underrated- Prestonsburg
Overrated- Sheldon Clark
Cards09
09-04-2007, 01:56 PM
Who is the most underrated and overrated teams?
Underrated- Prestonsburg
Overrated- Sheldon Clark
I don't see why you think SC is over rated we are proving ourselves every week and we will continue to prove ourselves.
BlackcatAlum
09-04-2007, 02:01 PM
I don't see why you think SC is over rated we are proving ourselves every week and we will continue to prove ourselves.
Its just my opinion. I have nothing against Sheldon Clark, but thats just what I think.
Cards09
09-04-2007, 02:09 PM
Underrated- Sheldon Clark
Overrated- Belfry
Panther Thunder
09-04-2007, 02:28 PM
Underated - Prestonsburg
Overrated - Pikeville, Still have a lot to prove I think that people see scores from two down teams and rate them higher than what they should be as of now.
Belfry_99
09-04-2007, 03:01 PM
Underrated- Sheldon Clark
Overrated- Belfry
Everyone has thier opinion, even though both teams are 2-0, Belfry has played the tougher schedule, and has the tougher schedule. Also Belfry has the better defense.
mrfootball03
09-04-2007, 03:30 PM
Underrated- Sheldon Clark
Overrated- Belfry
haha.. thats funny.. i hear everyone talking about Sheldon Clark being so good, so if they are still underrated then they must be something special.. lol I will be dissapointed if they win anything less than a state championship..
No one mention Belfry being anything great.. They are average in my opinion..
lcc_is_the_best_54
09-04-2007, 05:42 PM
underrated- LCC
Overrated- sheldon clark
EKUAlum05
09-04-2007, 05:44 PM
haha.. thats funny.. i hear everyone talking about Sheldon Clark being so good, so if they are still underrated then they must be something special.. lol I will be dissapointed if they win anything less than a state championship..
No one mention Belfry being anything great.. They are average in my opinion..
That's why they play them on the field I guess.... although I will help your information by telling you that LC's Coach Goldsmith said in the Williamson Daily News "That's one of the best defenses in the entire state" and when asked to describe the game he said "in two words, shell shocked". He never said Belfry was great, but those are soem pretty positive remarks.
Last time I checked average teams finish 2nd or 3rd in their district every year for the past 5 years, average teams haven't been to the state semi-finals in 7 years, average teams go something like 2-5 against Belfry in their last seven games..... now which team between Belfry and Sheldon Clark is average?
lcc_is_the_best_54
09-04-2007, 05:57 PM
underrated- LCC
overrated- Belfry
LCC may only play 3 teams with a winning record from last year but are very capable at going 8-2 maybe even 9-1 if they get their heads out of a hole in the ground. i think the hazard game in week 1 is still n their heads
BelfryJustice
09-04-2007, 05:58 PM
This thread is being watched closely. We need to keep it on track.
Midee1
09-04-2007, 06:00 PM
Well with all the talk about Belfry being overrated who would you say will get the deepest in the play offs from that geographical area?
3SportStud
09-04-2007, 07:13 PM
How can you possibly say that belfry is overrated? They have destroyed two quality football teams.. and that is just taht.. The ONLY game that is even going to be a challenge is JC, which will be more than just a challenge... Maybe the best game in the mountains all year.. Belfry has been and still is the most dominant team in the mountains..
EASports12
09-04-2007, 07:36 PM
How can you possibly say that belfry is overrated? They have destroyed two quality football teams.. and that is just taht.. The ONLY game that is even going to be a challenge is JC, which will be more than just a challenge... Maybe the best game in the mountains all year.. Belfry has been and still is the most dominant team in the mountains..
Pretty rediculous statement - I give Pikeville a very good chance of bringing Belfry down from their high horse. 50/50 game vs Pikeville and I see JC beating you all.
Underrated- Prestonsburg
Overrated- Sheldon Clark
dfblackcat53
09-04-2007, 08:22 PM
Underrated- Sheldon Clark
Overrated- Belfry
haha are you serious? i watched the corbin/ belfry game on t.v. and belfry is underated if anything..some people are even talking that belfry is better than they have ever been
Nuffsaid23
09-04-2007, 08:41 PM
How can you say Prestonsburg is underrated when they are 7th in the state in the polls?
Belfry_99
09-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Pretty rediculous statement - I give Pikeville a very good chance of bringing Belfry down from their high horse. 50/50 game vs Pikeville and I see JC beating you all.
Belfry is not on a high horse, they are just doing what they do best and thats take care of what they need to. Belfry plays with emotion and does it in a way that it is productive, not counter productive (see Pikeville) If you think they are overrated or underrated thats your opinion, the games are played on the field and all I know is that 2 state championships, and 2 state semi-final appearances in the past 4 years, doesn't mean they are on a high horse, it means they are successful. Period.
UnderArmour24
09-04-2007, 10:15 PM
Underrated-Prestonsburg
Belfry Wins
09-04-2007, 10:26 PM
In this area Underated- I can buy into P'burg, SC if they learn to play defense on the pass.
Overated - Hazard......Watched them scrimage Belfry, was very unimpressed.
A Decent Lineman
09-04-2007, 10:50 PM
In this area Underated- I can buy into P'burg, SC if they learn to play defense on the pass.
Overated - Hazard......Watched them scrimage Belfry, was very unimpressed.
That was a scrimmage against a very good belfry team...i doubt we will ever meet a team as good as that in 1a. But, then again...Thats why we are 2-0 against 5a schools, as well as top 10 in mountains and ap polls....lol But newayz idc....never have to play belfry newayz...
Belfry Wins
09-04-2007, 11:06 PM
That was a scrimmage against a very good belfry team...i doubt we will ever meet a team as good as that in 1a. But, then again...Thats why we are 2-0 against 5a schools, as well as top 10 in mountains and ap polls....lol But newayz idc....never have to play belfry newayz...
I'm just going by what I saw, its really hard to tell right now, I just know its not often Belfry pulls out a good scrimage, and they looked real bad there to.
More Cowbell
09-04-2007, 11:28 PM
Pretty rediculous statement - I give Pikeville a very good chance of bringing Belfry down from their high horse. 50/50 game vs Pikeville and I see JC beating you all.
I don't think it's that ridiculous a statement to make. I am not from Belfry and have no ties to them, but I will say that they have much better than a 50/50 shot to beat Pikeville. Beating Ashland and Holy Cross are not the same as hanging with possibly the best team in the mountains (between them and JC). Don't get me wrong, the Panthers are a strong team and would beat most area teams handily, but Belfry is a different story...
mrfootball03
09-05-2007, 03:40 AM
That's why they play them on the field I guess.... although I will help your information by telling you that LC's Coach Goldsmith said in the Williamson Daily News "That's one of the best defenses in the entire state" and when asked to describe the game he said "in two words, shell shocked". He never said Belfry was great, but those are soem pretty positive remarks.
Last time I checked average teams finish 2nd or 3rd in their district every year for the past 5 years, average teams haven't been to the state semi-finals in 7 years, average teams go something like 2-5 against Belfry in their last seven games..... now which team between Belfry and Sheldon Clark is average?
I SAID.. Average, meaning this is an average Belfry team. Someone just made a remark that they think this may be the best team out of Belfry in a long time. Team wise maybe. But mainly, they don't have the "next level big time play makers" like they had in 03 & 04. May & Lee are really good backs, but lets not be crazy, they arn't Doug Howard nor David Jones. Thats what pushed the 03 & 04 teams over the edge from just an average Belfry team to one of the best Belfry teams. Don't get me wrong, average for Belfry is still really good. But I don't see Belfry winning a championship this year either.. Although I would love to be proved wrong, I just don't see it.
TidesHoss32
09-05-2007, 06:42 AM
Overrated-Ashland
Underrated- Hazard
This ISN'T based on any rankings, just from what people in the area talk about, brawl about in bars about, etc, lol...I have nothing against Ashland at all, but losing two games they were favored to win, at home, puts them in an awkward spot. Hazard beat a good LCC team and a very good Clay County team..and very well could run the tables in the district..
I Rule The World
09-05-2007, 08:15 AM
Overrated-Middlesboro
Underrated-Evarts(for lack of any other underrated because I'm not putting P-Burg as Underrated)
CraftCreeker
09-05-2007, 12:44 PM
I'll have to agree with alot of people on this post. Prestonsburg is always underrated and Shelton Clark is way overrated this year.
Braves_Fan_26
09-05-2007, 04:23 PM
I dont see how anyone can say that Belfry is overrated in any way. They beat a really good Corbin team the first week and then beat Lawrence Co last week. Sure, LC isnt as good as they used to be in the past, but they are still a pretty decent team and will play everyone they play as hard as they possibly can. Belfry is always good and they can back it up. I cant wait to see them play and hopefully beat JC. I agree with whoever said that game could be game of the year.
Panther Thunder
09-05-2007, 05:44 PM
I don't think it's that ridiculous a statement to make. I am not from Belfry and have no ties to them, but I will say that they have much better than a 50/50 shot to beat Pikeville. Beating Ashland and Holy Cross are not the same as hanging with possibly the best team in the mountains (between them and JC). Don't get me wrong, the Panthers are a strong team and would beat most area teams handily, but Belfry is a different story...
I'm not disagreeing with you, but what percentages would you give in that matchups all things being the same as they are now?
blackcat
09-05-2007, 10:07 PM
Underrated - Prestonsburg, Belfry
Overrated - Sheldon Clark, Hazard
Cards09
09-05-2007, 10:08 PM
Underrated - Prestonsburg, Belfry
Overrated - Sheldon Clark, Hazard
OK this is really funny
EASports12
09-05-2007, 10:13 PM
Belfry is not on a high horse, they are just doing what they do best and thats take care of what they need to. Belfry plays with emotion and does it in a way that it is productive, not counter productive (see Pikeville) If you think they are overrated or underrated thats your opinion, the games are played on the field and all I know is that 2 state championships, and 2 state semi-final appearances in the past 4 years, doesn't mean they are on a high horse, it means they are successful. Period.
I never said that Belfry was overrated, I was just commenting on what 3sportsStud said. Belfry is very good but I hate it when people are arrogant enough to say that Belfry will get no competition from everybody except JC, which is, IMO, completely wrong.
wooderson
09-05-2007, 10:21 PM
I just cant see Hazard being overrated. Remember they are a single A school and competing at this level isnt the same as other classes, thus they will be able to make some serious noise come playoff time in this class. They are a little small but they are extremely talented. I would actually have them as underrated at this time because there are very few who seem to think they can compete with the upper echelon teams in single A.
The team I see as overrated is the Breathitt Co. Bobcats. Coming off some subpar seasons everyone seemed to think they were on the right track but a win over Prestonsburg just doesnt change my mind, albeit P-burg is on the rise. Supposedly very talented but none proven. A great coach but one who seems to struggle when he isnt the clear cut favorite.
Belfry Wins
09-05-2007, 10:25 PM
I for one see this Pirate team as good as a long time. I have talked to several non Belfry fans, and at this point they might not have the talent in the backfield as David and Doug but they arent bad, but at every other aspect they are as good as they have been in a while.
Im telling you this team for Belfry is special.
A Decent Lineman
09-05-2007, 10:37 PM
I just cant see Hazard being overrated. Remember they are a single A school and competing at this level isnt the same as other classes, thus they will be able to make some serious noise come playoff time in this class. They are a little small but they are extremely talented. I would actually have them as underrated at this time because there are very few who seem to think they can compete with the upper echelon teams in single A.
The team I see as overrated is the Breathitt Co. Bobcats. Coming off some subpar seasons everyone seemed to think they were on the right track but a win over Prestonsburg just doesnt change my mind, albeit P-burg is on the rise. Supposedly very talented but none proven. A great coach but one who seems to struggle when he isnt the clear cut favorite.
Good post......:rockon:
More Cowbell
09-05-2007, 11:16 PM
I'm not disagreeing with you, but what percentages would you give in that matchups all things being the same as they are now?
With the game at Belfry, I would probably say 70% chance Pirates will win.
This is not a knock on Pikeville. Again, they would beat most other area teams easily. It's just you are talking about one of the better 1A teams in the state versus possibly the best team in 3A.
blackcat
09-05-2007, 11:31 PM
OK this is really funny
See how hard im laughing --> :)
CAM2006
09-06-2007, 02:00 AM
Underrated - Prestonsburg
Overrated - Sheldon Clark
jetpilot
09-06-2007, 02:03 AM
Underrated - Prestonsburg, Belfry
Overrated - Sheldon Clark, Hazard
Overrated - Prestonsburg. They haven't done anything in forever and their fans still gripe about no respect. Prestonsburg will bow out early once again in the playoffs, and then their fans will be whining that their basketball team gets no respect. ;)
biggeneral62
09-06-2007, 07:47 AM
well now i think jackson county is undrated i mean we prove ourselves and people still put us down. but i mean it dont matter what u all say we will play to our fullest and thats all we can do but be asured that we wont lay down and take it on the feild will play with heart not with pride but heart.
and the most overated team is north laurell i mean the are a big team but i think there season last year was 3-7 so yeah a lil too much credit there i think
BlackcatAlum
09-06-2007, 08:38 AM
Overrated - Prestonsburg. They haven't done anything in forever and their fans still gripe about no respect. Prestonsburg will bow out early once again in the playoffs, and then their fans will be whining that their basketball team gets no respect. ;)
Thats because they lost to Belfry or Middlesboro each season in the playoffs. Those two were some of the best teams in recent mountain history.
SVLadiesFan
09-06-2007, 08:46 AM
belfry is not underrated they have a good football team and everyone will tell you that. they have a good football program. and as long as i can remember they have had a winning team.
Super-Card
09-06-2007, 12:45 PM
Even though I am a Cardinal fan I can see them being overrated so far, but they are playing without Ryan Kelly. I would like to see any team take a 1000 yard rusher and leading tackler off a team and expect them to not miss a beat. The Cards are not where they need to be to make a deep playoff run, but they are right where they need to be for the third game of the season.
Overrated: Johnson Central. They may be one of the best in the mountains, but that dosn't put them in the class of Highlands and Cov. Cath. They have a LONG way to go before they challange for a state title regardless of what everyone likes to think.
Underrated: Pikeville. Few teams have been hit harder than the Panthers by the injury bug. When the smoke clears this will be one darn good A football team.
blackcat
09-06-2007, 04:42 PM
Overrated - Prestonsburg. They haven't done anything in forever and their fans still gripe about no respect. Prestonsburg will bow out early once again in the playoffs, and then their fans will be whining that their basketball team gets no respect. ;)
:) Excluding last year, Prestonsburg had been beat out of the playoffs by the eventual state champs 5 years in a row, and argueably they were the 2nd best team in the state in every one of those years. If you know nothing about Prestonsburg football just keep your mouth shut, it will only make you look stupid.
Old School
09-06-2007, 06:32 PM
The season is only 2 weeks old and most teams have several new players or players in new positions and are still learning each week, and I think this questions of who is overrated and underrated can be better answered in another couple of weeks.
Redneck
09-06-2007, 07:37 PM
Even though I am a Cardinal fan I can see them being overrated so far, but they are playing without Ryan Kelly. I would like to see any team take a 1000 yard rusher and leading tackler off a team and expect them to not miss a beat. The Cards are not where they need to be to make a deep playoff run, but they are right where they need to be for the third game of the season.
Overrated: Johnson Central. They may be one of the best in the mountains, but that dosn't put them in the class of Highlands and Cov. Cath. They have a LONG way to go before they challange for a state title regardless of what everyone likes to think.
Underrated: Pikeville. Few teams have been hit harder than the Panthers by the injury bug. When the smoke clears this will be one darn good A football team.
Johnson Central is not overrated. Noone has said they are gonna win state and noone has said they will beat Highlands or Cov.Cath. The JC players and coaches know how good football is in NKY and I can garauntee ya they don't even say they WILL win state. And this is comin from a Paintsville alum and fan who dislikes JC as much as anyone.
That's kinda funny you say JC is overrated, then say that Pikeville is underrated. Pikeville returned how many starters from last year. Look at the preseason polls, Pikeville was ranked in the top 5 and still are, and you say they are "underrated", lol, no way.
Belfry Wins
09-06-2007, 08:55 PM
Even though I am a Cardinal fan I can see them being overrated so far, but they are playing without Ryan Kelly. I would like to see any team take a 1000 yard rusher and leading tackler off a team and expect them to not miss a beat. The Cards are not where they need to be to make a deep playoff run, but they are right where they need to be for the third game of the season.
Overrated: Johnson Central. They may be one of the best in the mountains, but that dosn't put them in the class of Highlands and Cov. Cath. They have a LONG way to go before they challange for a state title regardless of what everyone likes to think.
Underrated: Pikeville. Few teams have been hit harder than the Panthers by the injury bug. When the smoke clears this will be one darn good A football team.
With Dials they dont miss to many beats on offense, but defense hurts themt he most by not having Kelly.
EASports12
09-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Johnson Central is not overrated. Noone has said they are gonna win state and noone has said they will beat Highlands or Cov.Cath. The JC players and coaches know how good football is in NKY and I can garauntee ya they don't even say they WILL win state. And this is comin from a Paintsville alum and fan who dislikes JC as much as anyone.
That's kinda funny you say JC is overrated, then say that Pikeville is underrated. Pikeville returned how many starters from last year. Look at the preseason polls, Pikeville was ranked in the top 5 and still are, and you say they are "underrated", lol, no way.
Pikeville is and has been ranked in the top five, but few people thought they could beat Holy Cross, and after they did, few people thought they could beat a down Ashland team. Maybe the word is underestimated.
Redneck
09-06-2007, 10:05 PM
Pikeville is and has been ranked in the top five, but few people thought they could beat Holy Cross, and after they did, few people thought they could beat a down Ashland team. Maybe the word is underestimated.
I said they was ranked. I never doubted Pikeville one bit in the first two games especially the Ashland game after Raceland beat em the week before. The sad thing is, people are gonna say they are "overrated" after they more than likely lose to Belfry and Lex Cath.
EASports12
09-06-2007, 10:29 PM
Thats probably true, but I think they will go very far in the playoffs - They have a very good chance of going to the state championship game and more than likely losing then.
More Cowbell
09-06-2007, 11:29 PM
I wouldn't call Pikeville overrated. Although I can't see them beating Belfry, I do see them having a very long run in the 1A playoffs this year.
jetpilot
09-06-2007, 11:46 PM
:) Excluding last year, Prestonsburg had been beat out of the playoffs by the eventual state champs 5 years in a row, and argueably they were the 2nd best team in the state in every one of those years. If you know nothing about Prestonsburg football just keep your mouth shut, it will only make you look stupid.
I didn't look stupid watching Pikeville drill them the last 3 years...P'burg is horrible...:)
blackcat
09-07-2007, 12:25 AM
I didn't look stupid watching Pikeville drill them the last 3 years...P'burg is horrible...:)
How many games are there in a year? That's a pretty easy one..
jetpilot
09-07-2007, 02:09 AM
How many games are there in a year? That's a pretty easy one..
All I'm saying is P'burg has to win some big games to get respect. Maybe it will happen this year, but they have to prove themselves. Just messin' with you on the horrible part.
mrfootball03
09-07-2007, 03:32 AM
:) Excluding last year, Prestonsburg had been beat out of the playoffs by the eventual state champs 5 years in a row, and argueably they were the 2nd best team in the state in every one of those years. If you know nothing about Prestonsburg football just keep your mouth shut, it will only make you look stupid.
Excluding more than just last year.. Prestonsburg hasn't been beating by the eventual state champions since Belfry in 2004. They weren't defeated by Russell in 05', and they weren't defeated by Mercer Co. in 06'. Now they did have a streak of the B factor. But that was from 2000-2004. They lost to Boyle Co. in 2000, Bardstown in the championship game of 2001, Breathitt Co. in 2002, Belfry in 2003 & 2004. And they were only argueably the 2nd best team in 2A in 2001 & 2003. Actually they were the 2nd best team in 2A in 2001, as it shows they were state runner up. Prestonsburg after 2004, has been sub-par. Actually in 2005, they really were horrible. They went 4-7 and only beating East Ridge, Pike Central, Shelby Valley, and that ultra-disqusting of a game beating up on Magoffin Co. 83-12, which to this day I still believe was classless. Last season was an O.K. season for P'Burg, but still far from what Prestonsburg was 2004 and earlier. IMHO, Prestonsburg can't really be underrated until they prove something this year. And losing 12-7 to an overrated Breathitt Co. doesn't really show me very much.
As to what I personally think:
Overrated - Breathitt Co.- I don't see this as being the #4 team in 3A.
Underrated - Pikeville - I think they could surprise a few people. They have one of the best backs in the mountains with Harmon.
Belfry isn't really overrated nor underrated. I think they get respect, but its well deserved.
I think Sheldon Clark is pretty decent, Dials is a very solid expierienced back, but without Kelly it really hurts them on the defensive side of the ball.
bigpun
09-07-2007, 04:04 AM
I said they was ranked. I never doubted Pikeville one bit in the first two games especially the Ashland game after Raceland beat em the week before. The sad thing is, people are gonna say they are "overrated" after they more than likely lose to Belfry and Lex Cath.
Hypothetically speaking, if Pikeville did get beat by the 4A #1 and the 3A #1, then how would that leave them as "overrated." Nobody expects a 1A team to beat these bigger teams except for the 1A team playing them. This statement of yours really makes no sense from an intellectual or football standpoint.
bigpun
09-07-2007, 04:11 AM
I didn't look stupid watching Pikeville drill them the last 3 years...P'burg is horrible...:)
P-burg is not horrible. They are a solid team with very good athletes. 22-8 is not drilling a team either. I don't know why you get on here and try to bring even more people against the football team when you aren't even associated with them.
blackcat
09-07-2007, 08:11 AM
Excluding more than just last year.. Prestonsburg hasn't been beating by the eventual state champions since Belfry in 2004. They weren't defeated by Russell in 05', and they weren't defeated by Mercer Co. in 06'. Now they did have a streak of the B factor. But that was from 2000-2004. They lost to Boyle Co. in 2000, Bardstown in the championship game of 2001, Breathitt Co. in 2002, Belfry in 2003 & 2004. And they were only argueably the 2nd best team in 2A in 2001 & 2003. Actually they were the 2nd best team in 2A in 2001, as it shows they were state runner up. Prestonsburg after 2004, has been sub-par. Actually in 2005, they really were horrible. They went 4-7 and only beating East Ridge, Pike Central, Shelby Valley, and that ultra-disqusting of a game beating up on Magoffin Co. 83-12, which to this day I still believe was classless. Last season was an O.K. season for P'Burg, but still far from what Prestonsburg was 2004 and earlier. IMHO, Prestonsburg can't really be underrated until they prove something this year. And losing 12-7 to an overrated Breathitt Co. doesn't really show me very much.
I was wrong, I just noticed that, I meant excluding the past 2 years. And notice I said argueably, I've been told by several Belfry players that in '03 and '04 that Prestonsburg was hands down the best 2A opponent they faced all year.
Sarrr
09-07-2007, 10:46 AM
For me, it's still too early in the season to make an overrated/underrated call. I am simply going to say that, IMO, SC and Pikeville really are that good. They were very good teams last year, and they have most of their nucleus of great players back.
I can't wait to watch Harmon and Dials again this year.
Of course, while I know that JCHS is going to be Belfry's biggest challenge this year, and I admit that SCHS and Pikeville have very good football programs, I still believe that Belfry will finish the season 9-1, if not 10-0.
I could be wrong though.
Tornado
09-07-2007, 01:53 PM
Underrated: Pikeville. Few teams have been hit harder than the Panthers by the injury bug. When the smoke clears this will be one darn good A football team.
Injury bug? I know last season the Panthers were plagued by injuries, but is this still an issue? If so, who is currently injured for Pikeville?
jetpilot
09-07-2007, 10:21 PM
P-burg is not horrible. They are a solid team with very good athletes. 22-8 is not drilling a team either. I don't know why you get on here and try to bring even more people against the football team when you aren't even associated with them.
I told him I was joking. Your posts turn people off more than anybody's with your attitude. Just once I would like to read one of your posts and not have to laugh and roll my eyes.:):rolleyes:
EASports12
09-07-2007, 10:59 PM
Injury bug? I know last season the Panthers were plagued by injuries, but is this still an issue? If so, who is currently injured for Pikeville?
Pikeville was much worse off late in the summer before the season started, when they had something like 9/30 injured, but now I think 3 are injured, 2 of them would probably start.
jetpilot
09-07-2007, 11:03 PM
Pikeville was much worse off late in the summer before the season started, when they had something like 9/30 injured, but now I think 3 are injured, 2 of them would probably start.
Who are the two who would start?
cougar_54
09-07-2007, 11:25 PM
does any1 believe Letcher central is underrated
BlackcatAlum
09-07-2007, 11:26 PM
does any1 believe Letcher central is underrated
Some teams may think so because there still a new school, and no one really knows anything about them, except the people that know mountain football.
GRIZZ
09-07-2007, 11:27 PM
Letcher Central has won two games against some teams that are on rough times right now. Let them win next week and then I think you have an argument for them being underrated.
cougar_54
09-07-2007, 11:56 PM
thats what i was looking for GRIZZ..... cause i believe so. alot of ppl have benn giving us alot saying were the 2nd best team in letcher county and so has some jenkins ppl that i know saying that they had a better shot at beeting hazard thanus but they got beat just as bad..... hazard is a good ball club right now.
57th crazer
09-08-2007, 08:21 AM
underrated- Breathitt. There defense is very good just ask Prestonsburg lol
overrated-Prestonsburg. They shouldn't be in the mountain top 10
Redneck
09-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Hypothetically speaking, if Pikeville did get beat by the 4A #1 and the 3A #1, then how would that leave them as "overrated." Nobody expects a 1A team to beat these bigger teams except for the 1A team playing them. This statement of yours really makes no sense from an intellectual or football standpoint.
I never said if they didn't beat Belfry and Lex Cath they would be overrated. I said other people are gonna say that if they lose those games. You know good and well half the people on here would say that they were overrated, which like you said, makes no sense.
BlackcatFootball
09-08-2007, 11:23 PM
underrated- Breathitt. There defense is very good just ask Prestonsburg lol
overrated-Prestonsburg. They shouldn't be in the mountain top 10
The number 4 team in class 3A is underrated and the number 7 team in class 2A is overrated? That makes no since to me cause that underrated #4 3A team only beat that overrated #7 team by five points.
blackcat
09-08-2007, 11:37 PM
The number 4 team in class 3A is underrated and the number 7 team in class 2A is overrated? That makes no since to me cause that underrated #4 3A team only beat that overrated #7 team by five points.
I agree, both of those teams were evenly matched. I would love to see a rematch.
EASports12
09-09-2007, 07:49 PM
Who are the two who would start?
Srs Charles Comer and Eric Shockey should both be back form knee surguries in early October. . .If they don't start, they most definatley will rotate at TE and OL, where there isn't a lot of depth.
Pirate4Life
09-11-2007, 10:21 PM
Underrated- Johnson Central (state wide)
Overrated- Pikeville
I just love how everyone jumps on the overrated underrated bandwagon lmao
bigpun
09-13-2007, 03:49 AM
I never said if they didn't beat Belfry and Lex Cath they would be overrated. I said other people are gonna say that if they lose those games. You know good and well half the people on here would say that they were overrated, which like you said, makes no sense.
It may be more than half of the people on here think they are overrated anyway.
Redneck
09-13-2007, 09:26 AM
It may be more than half of the people on here think they are overrated anyway.
LOL, that's true too.
Noexcuses
09-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Belfry is two touchdowns better team than Sheldon Clark.
Noexcuses
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
I may be wrong but Lex Catholic will really put a whipping on Pikeville.If they dont, the class a teams in Ky better watch out for Pikeville!!!
jetpilot
09-13-2007, 11:58 PM
Pikeville is a very very good Class A team, regardless of what happens against the Lexington All-Stars. #1 4A is supposed to have no problems with a Class A team.
Noexcuses
09-14-2007, 03:46 AM
Thats what I just said.
warriorfootballplaya
09-30-2007, 11:21 AM
Underrated-Er
Overrated-Pikeville
Redneck
09-30-2007, 01:58 PM
Underrated-Er
Overrated-Pikeville
:thatsfunn That's funny. Care to explain why ER is "underrated" and why Pikeville is "overrated".
BlackcatAlum
09-30-2007, 04:48 PM
To be honest I'm starting to think Pikeville isn't as good as I thought they were. As for East Ridge being underrated. They might be, but there not to the same level as most schools are in there district. But I think Coach Branham will have that team winning lots of games within the next three to five years.
Redneck
09-30-2007, 04:53 PM
To be honest I'm starting to think Pikeville isn't as good as I thought they were. As for East Ridge being underrated. They might be, but there not to the same level as most schools are in there district. But I think Coach Branham will have that team winning lots of games within the next three to five years.
Why, because they got blown out by the #1 team in 4A and the #1 team in 3A. Belfry, JC and MAYBE Sheldon Clark are the only teams in this area that could beat Pikeville. That doesn't mean they are overrated, that just means they are outmatched against the bigger schools.
BlackcatAlum
09-30-2007, 04:59 PM
Why, because they got blown out by the #1 team in 4A and the #1 team in 3A. Belfry, JC and MAYBE Sheldon Clark are the only teams in this area that could beat Pikeville. That doesn't mean they are overrated, that just means they are outmatched against the bigger schools.
Look at the combined record of the teams they have defeated, 5-19. I rest my point.
tomcatscc23
09-30-2007, 06:49 PM
i still think that even though there 1-5 ashland is underated
EKUAlum05
09-30-2007, 07:07 PM
Is Belfry still as overrated as they were being made out to be a few weeks ago?
Redneck
09-30-2007, 08:03 PM
Look at the combined record of the teams they have defeated, 5-19. I rest my point.
WOW... That means nothing, they could beat anyone in EKY except for 2-4 teams. They will win the district and region and will play in the state semi's, if that's overrated then I'm glad we were when I played.
TOMCAT06
10-01-2007, 04:48 PM
Overrated-Ashland
Underrated- Hazard
This ISN'T based on any rankings, just from what people in the area talk about, brawl about in bars about, etc, lol...I have nothing against Ashland at all, but losing two games they were favored to win, at home, puts them in an awkward spot. Hazard beat a good LCC team and a very good Clay County team..and very well could run the tables in the district..
Ashland isn't playing well this season and loosing winnable games that's for sure but I've not heard one fan or player brag about this years team so Im not exactly sure how they are overated. Everyone around Ashland sports knew this would be a rough season for the tomcats.
tomcatscc23
10-01-2007, 07:25 PM
Ashland isn't playing well this season and loosing winnable games that's for sure but I've not heard one fan or player brag about this years team so Im not exactly sure how they are overated. Everyone around Ashland sports knew this would be a rough season for the tomcats.
well the players didnt know this was going to be a rough season they had very high expectations coming into the year and if they get a few breaks here and there they could very well be 5-1 or 6-0
reddog58
10-01-2007, 10:03 PM
underrated-southfloyd
overrated-pikeville
More Cowbell
10-02-2007, 01:44 AM
Folks, Pikeville is not overrated. While they are not on the same level as Belfry, that does not mean they are not a strong team. I agree with a previous poster that said the Panthers would beat almost all the area teams, and will be a strong contender in class 1A. It's just that Belfry will make a lot of teams look bad.
Redneck
10-02-2007, 06:12 PM
underrated-southfloyd
overrated-pikeville
South Floyd couldn't even beat Paintsville, what makes them "underrated"
dundee
10-02-2007, 09:47 PM
underrated - ashland
15thRegionSlamaBamma
10-02-2007, 10:25 PM
WOW... That means nothing, they could beat anyone in EKY except for 2-4 teams. They will win the district and region and will play in the state semi's, if that's overrated then I'm glad we were when I played.
thats not saying much when you look at the district and region that they play in. They will make it to the state semis and get blown out by Lex Christian or Fairview. To add on to this the combined record of their district is 10-17 not including Pikeville and the region is 29 wins and 34 losses not including Pikeville. The toughest team in their region is probley Cumberland or Hazard and both teams a realitivley weak. I really wish they would bump up a class because they would actually have some competion.
Redneck
10-02-2007, 10:52 PM
The point I was tryin to make was that Pikeville could beat just about every team in EKY, with the exception of a few. That's including all classes with teams from EKY in that class. I'm not even a Pikeville fan but I know a good team when I see one. Nobody gave Pikeville a chance to win in the Pike County Bowl except for Pikeville fans, what makes you think Lex Christian or Fairview is that much better, Belfry would have their way with either of them too.
Sarrr
10-03-2007, 05:25 AM
Underrated: Hazard
Overrated: SC
15thRegionSlamaBamma
10-03-2007, 11:48 AM
The point I was tryin to make was that Pikeville could beat just about every team in EKY, with the exception of a few. That's including all classes with teams from EKY in that class. I'm not even a Pikeville fan but I know a good team when I see one. Nobody gave Pikeville a chance to win in the Pike County Bowl except for Pikeville fans, what makes you think Lex Christian or Fairview is that much better, Belfry would have their way with either of them too.
I understand your point and I do agree that with the teams in the area that Pikeville would beat just about anyone. But I do not believe that Belfry would have their way as much with LC, Fairview maybe but not to sure on that one. Pikeville is a good team but i do believe to much praise is put on them. IMO Pike Central or Valley could give them a pretty good game it would not be easy. Central has really opened some eyes with the new offence where they struggle is against the run but that has improved since the early game against Valley. I understand where you are going with your comment I was just stating that saying they will win district and region is not a big feat for them with the lack of competiton. Nothing but respect to you Redneck.
blitz43
10-03-2007, 12:42 PM
Powell is over rated
Phelps is under rated.......................EASY FELLAS. IT'S JUST A JOKE.
kysportsguru
10-03-2007, 01:00 PM
Overrated: Pikeville, Rockcastle CO.
Underrated: SV, P-burg, LCC, KNOX
Redneck
10-03-2007, 02:53 PM
I understand your point and I do agree that with the teams in the area that Pikeville would beat just about anyone. But I do not believe that Belfry would have their way as much with LC, Fairview maybe but not to sure on that one. Pikeville is a good team but i do believe to much praise is put on them. IMO Pike Central or Valley could give them a pretty good game it would not be easy. Central has really opened some eyes with the new offence where they struggle is against the run but that has improved since the early game against Valley. I understand where you are going with your comment I was just stating that saying they will win district and region is not a big feat for them with the lack of competiton. Nothing but respect to you Redneck.
I get what your sayin SlamaBamma...
OutlawJoseyWales
10-03-2007, 04:24 PM
Belfry would have their way with Lexington Christian and farivew. Either one would be fortunate to score. Belfry could and would beat Lex Catholic as well. I've seen both play....Lex Cath is slightly overrated...as is all of 4A football this year.
Belfry Wins
10-03-2007, 04:43 PM
Belfry shut out Corbina nd Corbin put it on LCC on the road so yeah Belfry would have their way with LCC, just to strong up front. As far s Pikeville vs any other school in the county, not yet Pikeville is second best team in county, and i have seen them all. Pike Central and Valley is much improved but just not to that level yet.
You can compare Belfry games with Valley and Pikeville, but hereis a couple of things for one Belfry didnt have the same intensity, even Haywood admited that, when Pikeville rolls into town things are takin to a new level.
FBALL
10-03-2007, 06:16 PM
Belfry shut out Corbina nd Corbin put it on LCC on the road so yeah Belfry would have their way with LCC, just to strong up front. As far s Pikeville vs any other school in the county, not yet Pikeville is second best team in county, and i have seen them all. Pike Central and Valley is much improved but just not to that level yet.
You can compare Belfry games with Valley and Pikeville, but hereis a couple of things for one Belfry didnt have the same intensity, even Haywood admited that, when Pikeville rolls into town things are takin to a new level.
Its LCA.
Belfry Wins
10-03-2007, 06:37 PM
Its LCA.
I knew that I was just seeing if you did, congrats you passed the test lol.
Redneck
10-03-2007, 08:03 PM
^LMAO Nice recovery Belfry Wins...
Panther Thunder
10-04-2007, 12:55 PM
thats not saying much when you look at the district and region that they play in. They will make it to the state semis and get blown out by Lex Christian or Fairview. To add on to this the combined record of their district is 10-17 not including Pikeville and the region is 29 wins and 34 losses not including Pikeville. The toughest team in their region is probley Cumberland or Hazard and both teams a realitivley weak. I really wish they would bump up a class because they would actually have some competion.
I doubt that Pikeville would get blown out by LCA, And definately not Fairview if they haven't improved a lot from last year. But they may very well lose to LCA IF they make it that far but they just have to worry about it one game at a time.
blitz43
10-04-2007, 02:29 PM
Its LCA.
NO......It's LCC..and it stands for Lexington Community College:)
Redneck
10-20-2007, 12:16 PM
Underrated-Er
Overrated-Pikeville
I'll agree that Pikeville is overrated now. But do you still think ER is "underrated" :).
EastKySports21
10-20-2007, 12:49 PM
over rated - P burg
under rated - Hazard
EastKySports21
10-20-2007, 12:51 PM
under rated - Sv
over rated - pikeville
cougar_54
10-20-2007, 01:22 PM
Does any one believe that Letcher Central is underrated or overrated??
Cardsftw2010
10-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Sadly, ima have to say Overrated goes to Sheldon Clark. Alot of hype was built up with Dials being the leading rusher in state and being 7-0. But we faced 2 real teams in a row, and got slaughtered by both.
BlackcatAlum
10-21-2007, 04:27 PM
over rated - P burg
under rated - Hazard
Any reason behind that? Or are you just another Shelby Valley fan?
Jeepman
10-25-2007, 02:48 PM
I think that Louisville Central is over rated. I'm not saying they are not good. I just don't think that they are the best team in 3-A as many do. I think we looked at there schedule and said if they can play that schedule they must be the best. I think they will be another Owensboro Cathlic 2005 team. Picked to take it all but is not physical enough to deal with the likes of Belfry, Russell, Ect. Ect.
I think Russell is under rated. This is why. The folks in the east know good hard nosed football is played in the east 3-A. I think that most would say the Belfry is the top by a large margin. I would. Then Breathitt, Russell, Mason County, Somerset, etc, are then kind of grouped all together at the same level. I don't think Russell can be judged by the game against Mason County. Russell was lucky to win that game. Russell made horrible mistakes that they usually don't make. Now on the other hand Mason's Head Coach stated that they played their best football. If Russell limits the mistakes and plays well they will beat Mason County by 21 points IMO. I think Russell is a notch below Belfry just as they were last year at this time. With that being said I think they are under rated IMO.
pikevillepanther#11
10-26-2007, 11:20 AM
Powell is very overrated
Pirate1983TitanDad2006
11-28-2007, 09:56 PM
IMHO, Prestonsburg can't really be underrated until they prove something this year. And losing 12-7 to an overrated Breathitt Co. doesn't really show me very much.
As to what I personally think:
Overrated - Breathitt Co.- I don't see this as being the #4 team in 3A.
Its amazing how much different things appear now compared to week 2, isnt it?:thatsfunn
over rated - P burg
under rated - Hazard
Agree...hazard year in and year out always a great team....dont get me wrong pburg has in the past couple of years have good teams but have done nothing with it tho....
bac2369
11-28-2007, 11:04 PM
Hazard is way under rated, i think p burg was under rate 2, heck even pcc was under rated. look what a season they had. who would of figured that?
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