View Full Version : Sheldon Clark vs. Johnson Central -- Freshman
schs_fan21
09-26-2007, 09:21 AM
I think schs will come out on top who agrees?....but it will be a tough game:D
Super-Card
09-26-2007, 11:49 AM
I think SC has a better freshmen team, but who knows with Matney. I wouldn't be surprised to see several non-freshman players out there. I know he pulled this trick several times at SC. Who is the freshmen coach at JC? :confused: Who calls the plays for the freshmen team at JC? :D
SC will win this one if it is just freshmen.
Cards09
09-26-2007, 04:22 PM
should be a good game
Ring'Em Up
09-26-2007, 05:41 PM
I think SC has a better freshmen team, but who knows with Matney. I wouldn't be surprised to see several non-freshman players out there. I know he pulled this trick several times at SC. Who is the freshmen coach at JC? :confused: Who calls the plays for the freshmen team at JC? :D
SC will win this one if it is just freshmen.
:shh:
:thatsfunn
TheyKnowMe
09-26-2007, 06:48 PM
I will be there =)
Don Carlo
09-26-2007, 07:06 PM
I think SC has a better freshmen team, but who knows with Matney. I wouldn't be surprised to see several non-freshman players out there. I know he pulled this trick several times at SC. Who is the freshmen coach at JC? :confused: Who calls the plays for the freshmen team at JC? :D
SC will win this one if it is just freshmen.
Coach told me today that he has never played "non-freshmen" in a freshman game unless the opposing coach knew about it and agreed with it. What's your problem with Coach Matney? Did he cut your hide before or were you a typical hamburger eater that's just on team for the pre-game meal and didn't get to play much. It amazes me when people like yourself get on the net and hides behind a screen name and post garbage like your previous post. I shouldn't be suprised though after going back and rereading your posts though.
Why does it matter who's the head coach of Johnson Central's freshman team? Why do you care who calls the plays for the freshman team? You've already stated that you feel that Martin County will win so why does it matter?
I'll tell you this it will be just freshman playing and yes I believe that Martin County is the favorite but I can guarentee you that the game will be a dandy.
Good luck to both teams!
Super-Card
09-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Coach told me today that he has never played "non-freshmen" in a freshman game unless the opposing coach knew about it and agreed with it. What's your problem with Coach Matney? Did he cut your hide before or were you a typical hamburger eater that's just on team for the pre-game meal and didn't get to play much. It amazes me when people like yourself get on the net and hides behind a screen name and post garbage like your previous post. I shouldn't be suprised though after going back and rereading your posts though.
Why does it matter who's the head coach of Johnson Central's freshman team? Why do you care who calls the plays for the freshman team? You've already stated that you feel that Martin County will win so why does it matter?
I'll tell you this it will be just freshman playing and yes I believe that Martin County is the favorite but I can guarentee you that the game will be a dandy.
Good luck to both teams!
If Jim Matney told you that then he is a liar. Ask Chester McCoy. Ask Mike Hall. Ask John Derosset. Ask Glen Reeves. Ask Tony Burchett. Tell these men to look you in the eye and give you their word as a man and say he (Matney) never played non-freshmen without the other coach knowing and see what they say. You will be surprised
Paintsville inspector
09-27-2007, 08:31 PM
I just heard on Wsip that Johnson Central went to Sheldon Clark and won this game 44-30
57th crazer
09-27-2007, 08:47 PM
yes johnson central beat the cards. this was a very good game. sc could't stop the qb keeper and the pass. not for sure what he's name is but # 17 for j.c. is goin to be a great player and #5 from sheldon clark is goin to be a great player also. the sheldon clrak fans were acting stupid i would like to say sorry to the central fans 4 that, they was rumors during the game that matney was using upperclass players but he would't do that any coach with the right mind would not risk a injury to 1 of there varsity players. j.c. was the better team tonight! great game eagles:thumpsup:
TheyKnowMe
09-27-2007, 08:47 PM
They did win ... Unclassy game on both sides ... All fans were bad ... Matney almost got kicked out
Keepnitreal
09-27-2007, 09:22 PM
I know for a fact that only freshman played in this game for JC. Matter of fact one of JC's best freshman players (Tanner Bratton) was sidelined with an injury that occurred in the JV game Monday. JC didn't even take anything beside freshmen. Coach Hager was given a roster by one of JC's coaches before the game with all of JC's players on it.
This was a great game. JC played a great......Inspired.......game. Alot of emotion and intensity on the field. Their coaches kept telling them to leave it all on the field and I think they did.
Congratulation to both teams for a hard fought game!
Don Carlo
09-27-2007, 09:35 PM
They did win ... Unclassy game on both sides ... All fans were bad ... Matney almost got kicked out
What Johnson Central fans were bad? What did they say ? Come on now speak up. You can't get on here and accuse people of being unclassy with out backing it up. What happened? If Johnson Central's fans were so unclassy how come no one come over to there side and calmed them down. SC's principle had to go over and calm his fans down. Some of them acted like complete jerks. Cussing kids is as low as it gets. I don't know the guy's name but it was some fat guy in a blue shirt.
We probably came closer to getting thrown out of the game than Coach Matney did. All he was doing was taking up for his kids. Besides how could homer Harless throw anybody out? He's not even a licensed official. All he did was throw flag after flag. He was determined to keep the game close. You didn't see the other two pulling the same crap as he was. Crum and Cornette called a good game but Harless was a joke.
These two teams played there heart out. Number 23 for the cards is going to be a great player by the time he's through. I could tell that he's a fine young man with a bright future ahead of him and I'm sure there's others but he really stuck out. Good luck to both teams the rest of the season.
Don Carlo
09-27-2007, 09:38 PM
If Jim Matney told you that then he is a liar. Ask Chester McCoy. Ask Mike Hall. Ask John Derosset. Ask Glen Reeves. Ask Tony Burchett. Tell these men to look you in the eye and give you their word as a man and say he (Matney) never played non-freshmen without the other coach knowing and see what they say. You will be surprised
Once again your posting garbage but heck what should I expect after seeing the stunts you pulled tonight over there on the sideline. I noticed you calmed down after halftime. What happened?;)
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 09:42 PM
Johnson Central just flat out whiped SC tonight! Thats about all you can say. The Cards never stopped them. JC scored everytime they had the ball except when they turned it over. Nothing more to say. JC just handed it to the Cards tonight.
OH YEA..........WHERE IS SUPERCARD? NUFF SAID!!!!!
Pupaw
09-27-2007, 09:43 PM
Congrats to JC. Sounds like there is some good talent coming up for both schools.
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 09:51 PM
I think SC has a better freshmen team, but who knows with Matney. I wouldn't be surprised to see several non-freshman players out there. I know he pulled this trick several times at SC. Who is the freshmen coach at JC? :confused: Who calls the plays for the freshmen team at JC? :D
SC will win this one if it is just freshmen.
After watching the game tonight go ahead and give me the numbers of those kids who you think are not freshman. Or are you to sorry a person to accuse someone of something and not apologize?
Cmon let's hear it.
Cards09
09-27-2007, 09:55 PM
it was a good game but for the fans on the other hand Sc had a group that was arguing with a group of fans from Jc and the had to get the law enforcement over on them but Sc's principle never did come over and talk to them
TheyKnowMe
09-27-2007, 09:56 PM
What Johnson Central fans were bad? What did they say ? Come on now speak up. You can't get on here and accuse people of being unclassy with out backing it up. What happened? If Johnson Central's fans were so unclassy how come no one come over to there side and calmed them down. SC's principle had to go over and calm his fans down. Some of them acted like complete jerks. Cussing kids is as low as it gets. I don't know the guy's name but it was some fat guy in a blue shirt.
We probably came closer to getting thrown out of the game than Coach Matney did. All he was doing was taking up for his kids. Besides how could homer Harless throw anybody out? He's not even a licensed official. All he did was throw flag after flag. He was determined to keep the game close. You didn't see the other two pulling the same crap as he was. Crum and Cornette called a good game but Harless was a joke.
These two teams played there heart out. Number 23 for the cards is going to be a great player by the time he's through. I could tell that he's a fine young man with a bright future ahead of him and I'm sure there's others but he really stuck out. Good luck to both teams the rest of the season.
Ok for one... the sheriff had to go over to some women on THE HOME SIDE because she was screaming and yelling obscene stuff ... Some of Central's upper classmen sit right on top of the home side ... Behind the parents and was being trashy. And for whoever said they brought all freshman this is a joke. Shawn Hager had a list sure. But he saw some players that wasn't on the roster :eek: Shocker, I know. Sheldon Clark had horrible fans too don't get me wrong. Our fans were just as unclassy but we didn't go on your side. All in all I think the game was fun to watch. And all 3 of the officals were offical. Dave Harless is a good buddy of mine and he took the test.
Cards09
09-27-2007, 09:56 PM
That #5 from jc has a great looking future ahead of him what was his name
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 10:12 PM
Allright man go ahead and give me the numbers of those kids who were not freshman or stop making excuses on why the Cards lost.
Go ahead and give me the numbers! I know them all I promise you that!
TheyKnowMe
09-27-2007, 10:18 PM
Allright man go ahead and give me the numbers of those kids who were not freshman or stop making excuses on why the Cards lost.
Go ahead and give me the numbers! I know them all I promise you that!
Do I look like Shawn Hager? Exactly.
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 10:22 PM
Thats what I thought! JC played only freshman, and that's it. They didn't even have their best player, Tanner Braton!
Well allright, how about this why don't you give me the players who you thought were not freshman? Give me their position and number! You can't because you are just making excuses on why your Cards got it handed to them.
TheyKnowMe
09-27-2007, 10:24 PM
Thats what I thought! JC played only freshman, and that's it. They didn't even have their best player, Tanner Braton!
Well allright, how about this why don't you give me the players who you thought were not freshman? Give me their position and number! You can't because you are just making excuses on why your Cards got it handed to them.
LIKE I SAID! I do not have a list. Shawn did. And I am proud of JC. They drove it down The Cards throat all night. I am just trying to say what I saw. :ChairHit:
Ring'Em Up
09-27-2007, 10:25 PM
Do I look like Shawn Hager? Exactly.
You're the one saying it was a joke that JC had only freshmen. Obviously, knowing it all, as you seem to, you could have a little proof before you start :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: around.
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 10:27 PM
Well you say he knows who were not freshman and you agreed! So who do you think were not freshman! Since you agreed with him than you must have thoughts! Or are you also to sorry to tell us?
TheyKnowMe
09-27-2007, 10:29 PM
Like I said, freshman or not, good game. I am leaving it at that.
Don Carlo
09-27-2007, 10:34 PM
Ok for one... the sheriff had to go over to some women on THE HOME SIDE because she was screaming and yelling obscene stuff ... Some of Central's upper classmen sit right on top of the home side ... Behind the parents and was being trashy. And for whoever said they brought all freshman this is a joke. Shawn Hager had a list sure. But he saw some players that wasn't on the roster :eek: Shocker, I know. Sheldon Clark had horrible fans too don't get me wrong. Our fans were just as unclassy but we didn't go on your side. All in all I think the game was fun to watch. And all 3 of the officals were offical. Dave Harless is a good buddy of mine and he took the test.
So Hager's excuse is that JC played with non freshman? Why don't he just hump up and face it they got beat. What players wasn't on the roster? That's bull crap and he know's it. Give me some numbers that was on the field that wasn't on the roster. I will argue this until the very end because I was there and I know who was playing for Johnson Central. We PLAYED ALL FRESHMAN and it burns my butt to be accused of cheating in a freshman game. Instead of looking for excuses of why he got beat he better be looking at himself. I know that he's not the freshman coach but he still the main man.
Please tell me who he seen on the field that wasn't on the roster. We didn't even play our best freshman Tanner Bratton. I'll tell you what if Hager's going to use this as an excuse because his team was defeated why don't he schedule a varsity game with Johnson Central. I mean come on there all eligible for varsity. He wouldn't have to worry about checking our roster but I'm sure he would come up with some other excuse.
You're right it was a heck of a game to watch. Both communities should be proud of these boys.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about homer Harless. I thought he was pathetic and should stick to being Mike Hall's bat boy during the spring.
Please get back to me on who Hager thought wasn't a freshman. I'm real interested in that one.
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 10:34 PM
Like I said, you must be a sorry person! Just keep making excuses for your Cards!
JC played all freshman and trust me I know, and I know without a doubt! Just keep on being sorry and not tell us who you think were not freshman.
Don Carlo
09-27-2007, 10:35 PM
That #5 from jc has a great looking future ahead of him what was his name
JK Hall
OK2NV
09-27-2007, 10:39 PM
JK Hall
Oh yea and I guess he isn't a freshman! Man JC and all those sophs!!! HEHEHE
:)
Midee1
09-27-2007, 10:44 PM
OK the ignorance stops NOW!
Get back to the game and stop the personal attacks or the thread will be closed and several will be suspended.
Surely you guys and gals can talk about the game in a mature manner.
mscatblue
09-27-2007, 11:14 PM
How can any grown man with any conscience get on here and say anything to take away from 2 great groups of kids who fought it out in a great game. You can check the roster Johnson Central brought 17 9th graders and no one and I mean no one else. I know for a fact Coach Matney poured his heart out for 20 years for the kids of Martin Co and still loves those people and even when I bait him he will not allow one negative thing to be said about those kids or Shawn Hager. How can Super Card get on here say these things and then officiate the game? Two things coach Matney taught when I was there sure seems to have been lost. Dont cry cheat everytime you lose , and always play with class. As for whether Harless is certified I guess we can sure check tomorow and if he was not, I would hate to be responcible for those injuries.
Ring'Em Up
09-27-2007, 11:24 PM
Hopefully this can be considered game-talk. Dont wanna upset Midee anymore than already is! hahaha....but jus checking the khsaa site, and there is no one listed as current football official with that last name. Not sure of the exact requirements for "freshman" games, tho, if only 2 or how many are supposed to be licensed. anyway, were there some injuries in the game tonite? i mean, besides the normal wear and tear of a game?
and what was the story of the game? i mean, was it pretty close throughout or a big advantage for JC that was cut into late by SC?
guesswho
09-27-2007, 11:39 PM
It was a great game for both teams. I love Coach Matney and I dont think he would try to cheat, ecspecially against us. That kinda talk is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as Don Carlo running his mouth about Coach Hager, these are just fans on her talking i seriously doubt tht Hager has an account that he gets on here and writes about this stuff. Nobody said Hager said the JC was cheating so Don Carlo watch what you say.
mscatblue
09-27-2007, 11:41 PM
One other point I would like to mention is that last week when I went to watch family play at an 8th grade game in Martin county 3 current and former SC high school coaches officiated and Martin County people still accused them of shady officiating . What kind of oddacity does it take to put your own coaches out there ,lose and then blame them.I would be very interested to hear Mr Greg Crums
take on all this. Where else can you go in the entire state and get the schools own coaches officiating.
Super-Card
09-28-2007, 11:37 AM
When I am wrong I'm worng and last night BOY was I wrong. JC looked like a small varsity team tonight, they physically abused SC. These were 2 very good freshmen teams.
Book Keeper
09-28-2007, 01:13 PM
maybe the other officials didn't want to hear Matney for Harless had no reason to cheat freshman's they were not playing for a freshman super bowl
Book Keeper
09-28-2007, 01:26 PM
As for the people that worried about Harless not being certified. I talked to Mike Hall who assigns official in Martin Co. and he stated that official that refree Johnson Central games are not certified as well.
mscatblue
09-28-2007, 05:40 PM
Bookeeper
This is about the second time somone has used Mike Halls name on here to slander our coach and or program. We assume this is the same Mike Hall your people said helped cost you the 8th grade game against Johnson County. First off ,we did check and Harless is not a registered official. Trouble is on the way over this ,you can count on that. Second ,we do not believe Mike Hall has entered this debate and if he has we sure have a couple of questions for him.
guesswho
09-29-2007, 02:08 PM
good game to both teams
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