View Full Version : D1 players in 15th Region
kyrifle
10-26-2007, 08:46 AM
Is there any player in the 15th region, especially the 57th district, being looked at for D1 scolarship.
This is the time of year that players start working in the weight room and throwing to become stronger.
BlackcatAlum
10-26-2007, 08:59 AM
Prestonsburg has a couple of players that will be playing for either MSU, and EKU. Not gonna mention any names till I find out for sure.
RedSeal
10-26-2007, 09:21 AM
Timmy Hayes from Lawrence County will be suiting up for the Louisville Cardinals next year
Prestonsburg has a couple of players that will be playing for either MSU, and EKU. Not gonna mention any names till I find out for sure.
Nope. I think Hayes is the only D-1 in the 15th. Little would've been if he hadn't had arm trouble. In a few years I think Chandler Shepherd will be.
Mr.Kimball
10-26-2007, 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=blackcat_student;441409]Prestonsburg has a couple of players that will be playing for either MSU, and EKU. Not gonna mention any names till I find out for sure.[/QUOT
Sheesh!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
Here we go again.
Mr.Kimball
10-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Timmy Hayes from Lawrence County will be suiting up for the Louisville Cardinals next year
The question was asking for scholarship players.
Mr.Kimball
10-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Nope. I think Hayes is the only D-1 in the 15th. Little would've been if he hadn't had arm trouble. In a few years I think Chandler Shepherd will be.
So in fact , there are none, and in reality probably wont be any at all.
Dawg@heart
10-27-2007, 12:43 AM
The question was asking for scholarship players.
Why are you so determined that he(Hayes) isn't getting scholarship money??? Are you his or anyone else's financial manager?? Basically I would think that isn't yours or my business but to be so adamant that you know he isn't getting some asistance??
Mr.Kimball
10-27-2007, 04:45 AM
Why are you so determined that he(Hayes) isn't getting scholarship money??? Are you his or anyone else's financial manager?? Basically I would think that isn't yours or my business but to be so adamant that you know he isn't getting some asistance??
Are you advocating posting falsehoods on here? Perhaps it's you that should be minding their own business.
Dawg@heart
10-27-2007, 08:50 AM
Are you advocating posting falsehoods on here? Perhaps it's you that should be minding their own business.
You know what? I'm not going to get into another p***ing contest with you even though you seem to live for it.
All I ask is why you you so adamant you know exactly what Hayes is doing with Louisville. Last I heard, you were from Johnson Co so it would just stand to reason that the Hayes family would be more honest with people here, making them more likely to know what his "real deal" is.
I frankly don't know if he got a penny or not, but I am not on here INSISTING that he or anyone else in the 15th is or is not worthy of athletic scholarships. Thise families are the ONLY ONES that know for sure-not you or me.
Mr.Kimball
10-27-2007, 10:28 AM
You know what? I'm not going to get into another p***ing contest with you even though you seem to live for it.
All I ask is why you you so adamant you know exactly what Hayes is doing with Louisville. Last I heard, you were from Johnson Co so it would just stand to reason that the Hayes family would be more honest with people here, making them more likely to know what his "real deal" is.
I frankly don't know if he got a penny or not, but I am not on here INSISTING that he or anyone else in the 15th is or is not worthy of athletic scholarships. Thise families are the ONLY ONES that know for sure-not you or me.Then here's an idea :
Dont post on things you know nothing about.
Dawg@heart
10-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Then here's an idea :
Dont post on things you know nothing about.
It's a deal-and you should follow your own advice as well. At least I recognize that I don't know everything and don't care to admit it.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 02:43 AM
It's a deal-and you should follow your own advice as well. At least I recognize that I don't know everything and don't care to admit it.
You better do some checking on the subject before you start spouting off. Then you can forget about the apology. I'm not interested in hearing it.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 08:16 AM
You better do some checking on the subject before you start spouting off. Then you can forget about the apology. I'm not interested in hearing it.
You blow my mind--I wasn't apologizing to you nor will I. People stop arguing with you because you think you are the only one that knows anything and won't concede when you are wrong.
Everyone on here knows you do nothing but stir stink-too bad you have nothing else to do.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 09:04 AM
You blow my mind--I wasn't apologizing to you nor will I. People stop arguing with you because you think you are the only one that knows anything and won't concede when you are wrong.
Everyone on here knows you do nothing but stir stink-too bad you have nothing else to do.
Apparently you cant even comprehend what you read.:rolleyes: I said after you check into the subject matter you can forgo the apology.
If you have anything further to say, please go the PM route. It is embarrassing arguing with you. On second thought , dont even bother with the PM. I am sure that will time wasted as well. I doubt that I could carry on an intelligent conversation with you.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 09:09 AM
You just keep on letting everyone see what an *** you are.
I don't need a PM to say that.
I can read just fine and I can state what was I was told from Timmy Hayes himself. Maybe he himself told you something else-don't know? don't care.
Get a life outside of starting arguments on a baseball thread.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 09:10 AM
And no, I still won't apologize.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 11:08 AM
You just keep on letting everyone see what an *** you are.
I don't need a PM to say that.
I can read just fine and I can state what was I was told from Timmy Hayes himself. Maybe he himself told you something else-don't know? don't care.
Get a life outside of starting arguments on a baseball thread.
Uh...... I dont think anyone except yourself started any arguements. You are always welcome to use your option to ignore anything anyone else has to say. You are the one that just had to throw your two cents in about something you admitted to not knowing anything about. Right?
Big Dawg
10-28-2007, 01:00 PM
Uh...... I dont think anyone except yourself started any arguements. You are always welcome to use your option to ignore anything anyone else has to say. You are the one that just had to throw your two cents in about something you admitted to not knowing anything about. Right?
From reading all the above posts, it appears you are the provoking one here. You seem to always insult everyone? It appeared that Dawg@heart only asked you a question and you went off? Plus they didn't profess to knowing OR not knowing anything-just went on what they apparently were told personally. Too bad this became a personal fight over something that was of no concern to either of you.
BlackcatAlum
10-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Sheesh!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
Here we go again.
Now whats that supposed to mean?
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 01:20 PM
From reading all the above posts, it appears you are the provoking one here. You seem to always insult everyone? It appeared that Dawg@heart only asked you a question and you went off? Plus they didn't profess to knowing OR not knowing anything-just went on what they apparently were told personally. Too bad this became a personal fight over something that was of no concern to either of you. First off, what's his name didn't ask the first question about anything. He threw his two cents in on a conversation that was not directed at him to begin with and then got personal about it all by himself .You guys just cant let anything die can you? That is wherein the big problem lies. All you all have to do is use your option to ignore if you dont like or agree with what has been said, but you cant do that.
Don Carlo
10-28-2007, 01:25 PM
The question was asking for scholarship players.
Your correct the member was asking for scholarship players. I was told just a few minutes ago by one of Mr Hayes's family members that he will indeed be a walk on for the Cards next season.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 01:27 PM
Now whats that supposed to mean?
Do you have a clue as to what it takes to play at the D1 level? I doubt that anyone at PBurg has that ability right now. Perhaps at another level, but nowhere even close to MSU or EKU.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Your correct the member was asking for scholarship players. I was told just a few minutes ago by one of Mr Hayes's family members that he will indeed be a walk on for the Cards next season.
There is nothing wrong with either scenerio. He does get the chance to play at a D1 school which is great. There is nothing insulting about that at all.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Why are you so determined that he(Hayes) isn't getting scholarship money??? Are you his or anyone else's financial manager?? Basically I would think that isn't yours or my business but to be so adamant that you know he isn't getting some asistance??
Actually this looks like a simple question to me....
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Actually this looks like a simple question to me....
Actually what it looks like is simple sarcasm. You could have indeed just ignored the whole deal. Which it now looks as if what I have said has been confirmed from another source anyways.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 01:47 PM
It was a simple question. But when thinking back about past "conversations" with you, nothing is simple. Weren't you the one who thought it was the fault of LC's players that their locker room was broken into at Prestonburg? That should have told us all we needed to know about your character.
whatever-its over and done. All the sarcasm in the world won't be stopping him from going to college and playing baseball. Sorry to disappoint.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 01:50 PM
It was a simple question. But when thinking back about past "conversations" with you, nothng is simple. whatever-its over and done. All the sarcasm in the world won't be stopping him from going to college and playing baseball. Sorry to disappoint.
:rolleyes:
You just get proven wrong and still you wont let it die.
Dawg@heart
10-28-2007, 05:16 PM
:rolleyes:
You just get proven wrong and still you wont let it die.
Well I was totally unaware there was a competition to prove anything? You are the man-but you already convinced yourself of that anyway.:Clap:
Eagle Dad
10-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Prestonsburg has a couple of players that will be playing for either MSU, and EKU. Not gonna mention any names till I find out for sure.
from what I've seen Prestonspurg has no one that can play d-1
they have that one kid that can hit real good but hes not good at all on defence
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 06:11 PM
Well I was totally unaware there was a competition to prove anything? You are the man-but you already convinced yourself of that anyway.:Clap:
Thank you.
Big Dawg
10-28-2007, 06:39 PM
Are you finally finished???
BballFan63
10-28-2007, 06:47 PM
Actually, I'm sure several of us are hoping you both are finished. Enough is enough. It's past the point of ridiculous. Who cares who's right. The kid's going to play and that's what's important.
Mr.Kimball
10-28-2007, 08:20 PM
Actually, I'm sure several of us are hoping you both are finished. Enough is enough. It's past the point of ridiculous. Who cares who's right. The kid's going to play and that's what's important.
You are exactly right. Thanks for your input.
Dawg@heart
10-29-2007, 06:02 AM
Actually, I'm sure several of us are hoping you both are finished. Enough is enough. It's past the point of ridiculous. Who cares who's right. The kid's going to play and that's what's important.
My point exactly-thanks bballfan63! Congrats Timmy!:letsparty
Shane Grim is the best pitcher coming up this season. very likely he will be playing at a d1 school
Redneck
12-23-2007, 07:18 PM
Shane Grimm is gettin recruited by WVU... And from what I've heard that's prolly where he'll end up goin.
Mr.Kimball
12-23-2007, 07:52 PM
Shane Grimm is gettin recruited by WVU... And from what I've heard that's prolly where he'll end up goin.
A lot of variables at WVU. Out of state tuition is astronomical at WVU and Van Zant is infamous for being an over-recruiter and in being stingy with scholly money. He is a real good kid and best of luck to Shane. I hope he has that chance.
TheFan3
12-26-2007, 11:55 PM
grimm likes WVU but he says he like to go and play at cinns. loves the feild everythign else around it..but best of luck to where ever he goes and to every1 else
grimm likes WVU but he says he like to go and play at cinns. loves the feild everythign else around it..but best of luck to where ever he goes and to every1 else
I doubt he could play there. He will have to pick up some velocity on his ball to play at that level. But he is left-handed which helps.
If...Then
12-27-2007, 11:28 AM
I thought Shawn Grimm was a football only guy and wanted to have a career in that??
I know hes amazing at it and if it was up to me id send him with the shoulder pads.
Never seem him play baseball though. Is he better?
The Blue Blur
12-27-2007, 03:25 PM
Shawn Grimm is the running back from Johnson Central, and Shane Grimm is a pitcher and plays basketball for Paintsville. Two different kids and to my knowledge are of no relation.
TheFan3
12-27-2007, 10:15 PM
I doubt he could play there. He will have to pick up some velocity on his ball to play at that level. But he is left-handed which helps.
During the summer when wvu was calling him and at the games they like him. They always calling him and filling him in on stuff and everything. But his fastball is up to about 92 or somethign like that. Thats where it was when he was playing still.
Ring'Em Up
12-28-2007, 12:16 AM
During the summer when wvu was calling him and at the games they like him. They always calling him and filling him in on stuff and everything. But his fastball is up to about 92 or somethign like that. Thats where it was when he was playing still.
92? Wow. He's picked up a lil hasn't he? If thats truly the case, ought to be something to watch this year.
Mr.Kimball
12-28-2007, 07:18 AM
During the summer when wvu was calling him and at the games they like him. They always calling him and filling him in on stuff and everything. But his fastball is up to about 92 or somethign like that. Thats where it was when he was playing still.
Take about 8-10 MPH off of that.
He threw 77-82 in the district tournament.
There is nobody in the 15th region that can come close to sniffing 90, let alone 92.
Mr.Kimball
12-28-2007, 07:27 AM
Take about 8-10 MPH off of that.
He threw 77-82 in the district tournament.
There is nobody in the 15th region that can come close to sniffing 90, let alone 92.
I would not be surprised to see Austin Lyons as not only the staff ace , but maybe the hardest thrower on top of that.
During the summer when wvu was calling him and at the games they like him. They always calling him and filling him in on stuff and everything. But his fastball is up to about 92 or somethign like that. Thats where it was when he was playing still.
Seriously you are off by at least 10mph. He doesn't even throw 85. If he were throwing 92 as a lefty he would be getting drafted and that is not the case at all. He throws about 78-82 during a game. Lyons is the hardest thrower for PHS.
Pupaw
12-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Grimm is definitely the ace of the staff. He’s been gunned at 87 at WV Tech, and 82 at UK, and 85-86 at WVU. I know Cincinnati and WVU both like him. I was at the WVU camp also and Coach Van Zant really like him. I hope he gets to play at the school of his choice. Lyons has been gunned between 81-84 this fall.
Mr.Kimball
12-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Grimm is definitely the ace of the staff. He’s been gunned at 87 at WV Tech, and 82 at UK, and 85-86 at WVU. I know Cincinnati and WVU both like him. I was at the WVU camp also and Coach Van Zant really like him. I hope he gets to play at the school of his choice. Lyons has been gunned between 81-84 this fall.
VanZant likes everybody, until money gets discussed.
I will stand by my thoughts.:Thumbs:
Grimm is definitely the ace of the staff. He’s been gunned at 87 at WV Tech, and 82 at UK, and 85-86 at WVU. I know Cincinnati and WVU both like him. I was at the WVU camp also and Coach Van Zant really like him. I hope he gets to play at the school of his choice. Lyons has been gunned between 81-84 this fall.
there is no way lyons throws 81-84, thats a bit of a stretch, and the fastest ive ever heard of grimm is 84 thats pretty good if he's hitting 87...how long ago did he get clocked at that??
there is no way lyons throws 81-84, thats a bit of a stretch, and the fastest ive ever heard of grimm is 84 thats pretty good if he's hitting 87...how long ago did he get clocked at that??
Lyons does indeed throw that fast. Right now I'd say he pitches more towards 81-82 but he is what a soph. He has alot of upside to gain velocity along with his already good breaking ball.
Pupaw
12-28-2007, 08:06 PM
there is no way lyons throws 81-84, thats a bit of a stretch, and the fastest ive ever heard of grimm is 84 thats pretty good if he's hitting 87...how long ago did he get clocked at that??This fall, Post 76 played at WV Tech in a DH and won both, by the way. Grimm threw 4 shutout innings, allowed 2 hits I believe and got the win in the 2nd game. There were two guns, each had Grimm at 87 that day. Grimm had a very good fall both pitching and offensively. He pitched very well at UK and in Columbus. Grimm has gotten much stronger and his offspeed pitches, were very good. He's a great guy and I hope he goes to the school, of his choice.
Lyons pitched the 6th thru 9th innings in the 1st game and got that win, against WV Tech.
This was in late August or early September.
brown14
12-28-2007, 11:17 PM
Ok sorry i was off by 4mph. But it sounded good did'nt it. haha...Anyway Lyons is throwing the ball good or was when fall ball ended. And yes he does throw 81-84mph
blackcat
12-29-2007, 02:43 AM
Do you have a clue as to what it takes to play at the D1 level? I doubt that anyone at PBurg has that ability right now. Perhaps at another level, but nowhere even close to MSU or EKU.
Have you seen Prestonsburg play? I'm not saying that they do, but I'm doubting you have seen them play. The only player Prestonsburg has that could possibly play at that type of school is Rodebaugh. He is without a doubt one of the best hitters in the 15th.
BlackcatAlum
12-29-2007, 03:00 AM
Have you seen Prestonsburg play? I'm not saying that they do, but I'm doubting you have seen them play. The only player Prestonsburg has that could possibly play at that type of school is Rodebaugh. He is without a doubt one of the best hitters in the 15th.
Bobby Hughes :confused:
He may not have been the best hitter on the team but he was the best all-round played on Prestonsburg last season, and this season is the last chance he has at getting a college scholorship. So he has something to prove! So I could see Bobby and Josh being a D1 players, depending on if Marc Sheperd talks to colleges for them.
Mr.Kimball
12-29-2007, 07:49 AM
Have you seen Prestonsburg play? I'm not saying that they do, but I'm doubting you have seen them play. The only player Prestonsburg has that could possibly play at that type of school is Rodebaugh. He is without a doubt one of the best hitters in the 15th.
I've seen them play for more years than you have probably been alive and they are traditionaly one of the worst programs in the state of Kentucky. Some of you without a doubt have no clue whatsoever what D1 is . Not being too critical here because the average fan in eastern Kentucky just has that mentality. It's called ignorance of the game of baseball.
I've seen them play for more years than you have probably been alive and they are traditionaly one of the worst programs in the state of Kentucky. Some of you without a doubt have no clue whatsoever what D1 is . Not being too critical here because the average fan in eastern Kentucky just has that mentality. It's called ignorance of the game of baseball.
:Thumbs: Thank you someone finally said it! People around this area are ignorant as to what it takes to be a D-1 player. People around this area think that if you are a good player in this region then you are going to UK. Just think back within the past five years and count how many kids from this region have actually gone D-1 straight from high school. I'd say there aren't a handfull. If people want to see what D-1 talent looks like they should actually go to a game and see what it takes insted of being unaware. But it's truthfully this way for all sports in this area. **** in basketball if you have a kid who can score 20pts in a game he is going to North Carolina. It just makes us look bad.
Mr.Kimball
12-29-2007, 12:22 PM
Bobby Hughes :confused:
He may not have been the best hitter on the team but he was the best all-round played on Prestonsburg last season, and this season is the last chance he has at getting a college scholorship. So he has something to prove! So I could see Bobby and Josh being a D1 players, depending on if Marc Sheperd talks to colleges for them.
Marc is a great young man. I have watched him grow up and have known his family for many many years. Marc was a good athlete in high school, and I can say assuredly that everyone from Johnson Co. has nothing but the very best wishes for him to succeed at PBurg. The truth however is that Marc has more than got his hands full in trying to build a program at a school that cares for nothing else other than football. Marc was an average baseball player in high school, and did not play at the college level, so I would not place to much pressure on Marc to be a great recruiting asset just yet because I am sure that at this young point in his career that he does not have any college contacts. PBurg always produces some of the best athletes up and down the river, but they have never produced quality baseball players. Jesse Chaffins is the best college baseball prospect to have played at PBurg in the last several years and could have been a great high school and college player, but never really placed a great deal of emphasis on baseball. PBurgs problem is partly due to having some of the worst facilities in the state, but mostly due to an apathetic attitude towards baseball by the administration, absolutely no vision on the part of the Floyd Co. Board of Education cancerning baseball, and a former long term coach that never gave a crap about having a quality baseball program to begin with. I have seen years when PBurg would only play 10-12 games. I have been part of programs in the past where when game day came around and PBurg was on the schedule that come game time , nobody from Prestonsburg would even show up. Not even a phone call to cancel, not anything.
So bottom line , if you folks at Prestonsburg ever want to have a quality program where you can legitimately say that you have players that truely are of D1 caliber and to have them respected as such, then I suggest that everyone that is a supporter of Prestonsburg athletics get behind your coach and try to really build a program. You cannot expect a college program to seriously take stats into consideration in evaluating players from a team whose players experience consists of playing 75% of their games against nothing more than 58th district opponents.
Ring'Em Up
12-29-2007, 01:44 PM
Doesn't Prestonsburg now use the new baseball facilities up at Stone Crest? I have not been in it, but was told there was a very nice indoor training area that butts right up to the home dugout. I know that doesn't help with the past, but maybe it's a step in the right direction. I haven't been at a Pburg game there yet, but jus thought thats where they played now.
BlackcatAlum
12-29-2007, 04:08 PM
Marc is a great young man. I have watched him grow up and have known his family for many many years. Marc was a good athlete in high school, and I can say assuredly that everyone from Johnson Co. has nothing but the very best wishes for him to succeed at PBurg. The truth however is that Marc has more than got his hands full in trying to build a program at a school that cares for nothing else other than football. Marc was an average baseball player in high school, and did not play at the college level, so I would not place to much pressure on Marc to be a great recruiting asset just yet because I am sure that at this young point in his career that he does not have any college contacts. PBurg always produces some of the best athletes up and down the river, but they have never produced quality baseball players. Jesse Chaffins is the best college baseball prospect to have played at PBurg in the last several years and could have been a great high school and college player, but never really placed a great deal of emphasis on baseball. PBurgs problem is partly due to having some of the worst facilities in the state, but mostly due to an apathetic attitude towards baseball by the administration, absolutely no vision on the part of the Floyd Co. Board of Education cancerning baseball, and a former long term coach that never gave a crap about having a quality baseball program to begin with. I have seen years when PBurg would only play 10-12 games. I have been part of programs in the past where when game day came around and PBurg was on the schedule that come game time , nobody from Prestonsburg would even show up. Not even a phone call to cancel, not anything.
So bottom line , if you folks at Prestonsburg ever want to have a quality program where you can legitimately say that you have players that truely are of D1 caliber and to have them respected as such, then I suggest that everyone that is a supporter of Prestonsburg athletics get behind your coach and try to really build a program. You cannot expect a college program to seriously take stats into consideration in evaluating players from a team whose players experience consists of playing 75% of their games against nothing more than 58th district opponents.
Maybe in the past Prestonsburg was just a football school but I really don't think that this is the case anymore. Plus I don't don't how they could be one of the weakest baseball schools in the state of Kentucky considering that they won a state championship in baseball, and not too many teams in Eastern Kentucky have done that. Prestonsburg has two of the better players in the 15th region and IMO I think Prestonsburg is the sleeper in the region and I believe that they have a shot at going to Applebee's Park.
And when was the last time you where at a Prestonsburg game? They have had really good fan support over the past four years. And they now have probably the finest facility in the 15th region and maybe even the best in Eastern Kentucky. Not trying to get under your skin or anything but just curious.
Doesn't Prestonsburg now use the new baseball facilities up at Stone Crest? I have not been in it, but was told there was a very nice indoor training area that butts right up to the home dugout. I know that doesn't help with the past, but maybe it's a step in the right direction. I haven't been at a Pburg game there yet, but jus thought thats where they played now.
Yes, they have an indoor training facility that has a batting cage, locker room, and a bullpen. Yes it is a step in the right direction, and there are over 30 boys that are ready to go out there and bust there *** off to when district and compete in region this year.
Mr.Kimball
12-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Maybe in the past Prestonsburg was just a football school but I really don't think that this is the case anymore. Plus I don't don't how they could be one of the weakest baseball schools in the state of Kentucky considering that they won a state championship in baseball, and not too many teams in Eastern Kentucky have done that. Prestonsburg has two of the better players in the 15th region and IMO I think Prestonsburg is the sleeper in the region and I believe that they have a shot at going to Applebee's Park.
And when was the last time you where at a Prestonsburg game? They have had really good fan support over the past four years. And they now have probably the finest facility in the 15th region and maybe even the best in Eastern Kentucky. Not trying to get under your skin or anything but just curious.
Yes, they have an indoor training facility that has a batting cage, locker room, and a bullpen. Yes it is a step in the right direction, and there are over 30 boys that are ready to go out there and bust there *** off to when district and compete in region this year.
First - I was at some PBurg games just this past season and have been every year for many, many years.
2nd- Prestonsburg won a state championship in 1948. Exactly 60 years ago. Just a tad out of date on that one aren't we?
3rd- What would make you believe that they are not just a football school any more?
4th- For my opinion on why they have one of the weakest programs around the state and most certainly the area, I can base this upon PBurg records in just the past 6 years alone and the opposing teams records in games in which they won in those years.
2002 Record 2-11
Magoffin Co. 0-11
South Floyd 4-10
2003 Record 8-16
Knott Co. 3-14
Letcher 2-8
Evarts 1-17
Casey Co. 8-24
South Floyd 5-12
Magoffin 2-14
2004 Record 1-18
Pike Co. Central 15-18
2005 Record 17-11
Knott Co. 17-22 (3 times)
Cordia 1-13
Phelps 10-11 (2 times)
Jenkins 4-12
South Floyd 3-22
Allen Central 18-14
Fleming Neon 5-11 (2 times)
Pike Co. Central 14-18 (2 times)
2006 Record 13-15
East Ridge 11-23 (3 times)
Phelps 13-7
Morgan 7-11
Wolfe Co. 10-10
Magoffin Co. 12-11 (3 times)
South Floyd 2-16
Betsy Layne 8-19
2007 Record 16-17
Phelps 12-10
Betsy Layne 2-22 (3 times)
South Floyd 0-16 (2 times)
June Buchanan 7-20 (2 times)
Cordia 7-13
Wolfe Co. 4-18 (2 times)
Shelby Valley 6-15 (2 times)
Knott Co. 8-19 (2 times)
Magoffin Co. 13-13
In the last 6 years Prestonsburg has won a Grand Total of 6 games over a team that had a winning record in that respective season. That's right a Grand Total of 6. And look at who those teams were( perennial power houses Magoffin Co. and Phelps, and one win over Allen Central in 2005.) And just for a moment just look at the teams in which Phelps and Magoffin Co. beat in those seasons to get those winning records. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I can certainly see why you would think they have a shot at Applebees this year. Think about what you are saying. Do you honestly think they can get by Paintsville, Pikeville, Johnson Central , or Lawrence Co to win the 15th region? Do you realize that they would have to get by the 13th region winner to then take the semi-state title just to get to Applebees? Do you really understand how things are set up? Of course you dont. This is just the mentality that some of us are trying to educate some of you young posters on.
Prestonsburg does indeed have a nice field to play on now, but I certainly think that Pikeville, Belfry , Lawrence Co., Pike Central, Shelby Valley, and certainly Johnson Central's new field can still claim superiority in that respect however. Maybe best in Eastern Ky? WOW again. Ever been to Boyd Co? Ever been to Corbin? Ever been to Whitley Co.? Ever been to McCreary Co.? Ever been to any of the Laurel Co. fields?
Of course you haven't because PBurg does not play those caliber of teams.
Just want to close in saying that Rodebaugh and Hughes do have some talent and can possibly play somewhere at the next level, but again I respectfully claim complete ignorance of the game of baseball for anyone to remotely suggest that D1 capabilities exist.
BlackcatAlum
12-29-2007, 09:34 PM
First - I was at some PBurg games just this past season and have been every year for many, many years.
2nd- Prestonsburg won a state championship in 1948. Exactly 60 years ago. Just a tad out of date on that one aren't we?
3rd- What would make you believe that they are not just a football school any more?
4th- For my opinion on why they have one of the weakest programs around the state and most certainly the area, I can base this upon PBurg records in just the past 6 years alone and the opposing teams records in games in which they won in those years.
2002 Record 2-11
Magoffin Co. 0-11
South Floyd 4-10
2003 Record 8-16
Knott Co. 3-14
Letcher 2-8
Evarts 1-17
Casey Co. 8-24
South Floyd 5-12
Magoffin 2-14
2004 Record 1-18
Pike Co. Central 15-18
2005 Record 17-11
Knott Co. 17-22 (3 times)
Cordia 1-13
Phelps 10-11 (2 times)
Jenkins 4-12
South Floyd 3-22
Allen Central 18-14
Fleming Neon 5-11 (2 times)
Pike Co. Central 14-18 (2 times)
2006 Record 13-15
East Ridge 11-23 (3 times)
Phelps 13-7
Morgan 7-11
Wolfe Co. 10-10
Magoffin Co. 12-11 (3 times)
South Floyd 2-16
Betsy Layne 8-19
2007 Record 16-17
Phelps 12-10
Betsy Layne 2-22 (3 times)
South Floyd 0-16 (2 times)
June Buchanan 7-20 (2 times)
Cordia 7-13
Wolfe Co. 4-18 (2 times)
Shelby Valley 6-15 (2 times)
Knott Co. 8-19 (2 times)
Magoffin Co. 13-13
In the last 6 years Prestonsburg has won a Grand Total of 6 games over a team that had a winning record in that respective season. That's right a Grand Total of 6. And look at who those teams were( perennial power houses Magoffin Co. and Phelps, and one win over Allen Central in 2005.) And just for a moment just look at the teams in which Phelps and Magoffin Co. beat in those seasons to get those winning records. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I can certainly see why you would think they have a shot at Applebees this year. Think about what you are saying. Do you honestly think they can get by Paintsville, Pikeville, Johnson Central , or Lawrence Co to win the 15th region? Do you realize that they would have to get by the 13th region winner to then take the semi-state title just to get to Applebees? Do you really understand how things are set up? Of course you dont. This is just the mentality that some of us are trying to educate some of you young posters on.
Prestonsburg does indeed have a nice field to play on now, but I certainly think that Pikeville, Belfry , Lawrence Co., Pike Central, Shelby Valley, and certainly Johnson Central's new field can still claim superiority in that respect however. Maybe best in Eastern Ky? WOW again. Ever been to Boyd Co? Ever been to Corbin? Ever been to Whitley Co.? Ever been to McCreary Co.? Ever been to any of the Laurel Co. fields?
Of course you haven't because PBurg does not play those caliber of teams.
Just want to close in saying that Rodebaugh and Hughes do have some talent and can possibly play somewhere at the next level, but again I respectfully claim complete ignorance of the game of baseball for anyone to remotely suggest that D1 capabilities exist.
First- You may have been at some of there games but you have to admit that they have fan support.
Second- Yes it was 60 years ago but a state championship is a state championship, not too many teams can claim that they have won one.
Third- If Prestonsburg where just a football school all the money would be going toward's football. I personally know that the money is being given to each sport. Support from the community is where the football team gets majority of there money from.
Fourth- Thats because they had a coach that was just baby sitting the team. No one with common sense wanted to coach this team because they knew that nothing was being done about the crappy field they where playing on and the poor equipment they had, but in those years a lot of talent was wasted. Only a select few players went to play college baseball. Hopefully the hiring of Marc Shepherd can change that.
Prestonsburg may have only won 6 games over teams with winning records, but whose fault is that for playing such weak teams constantly? Its the coaches fault, not the players. Your right that Prestonsburg hasn't been traditionally good, but look at the poor excuse for coaches they had. All the talent is there in those halls at that school its just that everyone at Prestonsburg used to automatically believe that our baseball team is horrible and that no one wants to be a part of that.
Yes, I believe that Prestonsburg can compete and defeat Paintsville, Johnson Central, Pikeville, and Lawrence County. Why couldn't they? I'm not saying that they are the at the same caliber as those teams but they have just as much talent as each of those schools have but haven't had the same caliber coach. Now hopefully they do in Marc Shepherd. Thats why this years Prestonsburg team has more expectations, because they have gotten a taste of what its like to go regions, and I'm sure that they'll build of last years success.
FYI, I don not know how the system is set up after regions, and I'll admit that... Sorry.
First- You may have been at some of there games but you have to admit that they have fan support.
Second- Yes it was 60 years ago but a state championship is a state championship, not too many teams can claim that they have won one.
Third- If Prestonsburg where just a football school all the money would be going toward's football. I personally know that the money is being given to each sport. Support from the community is where the football team gets majority of there money from.
Fourth- Thats because they had a coach that was just baby sitting the team. No one with common sense wanted to coach this team because they knew that nothing was being done about the crappy field they where playing on and the poor equipment they had, but in those years a lot of talent was wasted. Only a select few players went to play college baseball. Hopefully the hiring of Marc Shepherd can change that.
Prestonsburg may have only won 6 games over teams with winning records, but whose fault is that for playing such weak teams constantly? Its the coaches fault, not the players. Your right that Prestonsburg hasn't been traditionally good, but look at the poor excuse for coaches they had. All the talent is there in those halls at that school its just that everyone at Prestonsburg used to automatically believe that our baseball team is horrible and that no one wants to be a part of that.
Yes, I believe that Prestonsburg can compete and defeat Paintsville, Johnson Central, Pikeville, and Lawrence County. Why couldn't they? I'm not saying that they are the at the same caliber as those teams but they have just as much talent as each of those schools have but haven't had the same caliber coach. Now hopefully they do in Marc Shepherd. Thats why this years Prestonsburg team has more expectations, because they have gotten a taste of what its like to go regions, and I'm sure that they'll build of last years success.
FYI, I don not know how the system is set up after regions, and I'll admit that... Sorry.
i thought it was asking for D1 players, and if so, im not being mean or anything but p-burg just simply doesn't have any players at that capability....just because you hit well over.400 in eastern kentucky doesn't mean by any means are you D1 material...alot teams are known to pad their stats especialy in the 57th distrtict, i think i seen in the paper one day last year where paintsville had 4 or 5 hitters well up over .400 and that just wasn't the case at all
Mr.Kimball
12-30-2007, 01:50 AM
First- You may have been at some of there games but you have to admit that they have fan support.
Second- Yes it was 60 years ago but a state championship is a state championship, not too many teams can claim that they have won one.
Third- If Prestonsburg where just a football school all the money would be going toward's football. I personally know that the money is being given to each sport. Support from the community is where the football team gets majority of there money from.
Fourth- Thats because they had a coach that was just baby sitting the team. No one with common sense wanted to coach this team because they knew that nothing was being done about the crappy field they where playing on and the poor equipment they had, but in those years a lot of talent was wasted. Only a select few players went to play college baseball. Hopefully the hiring of Marc Shepherd can change that.
Prestonsburg may have only won 6 games over teams with winning records, but whose fault is that for playing such weak teams constantly? Its the coaches fault, not the players. Your right that Prestonsburg hasn't been traditionally good, but look at the poor excuse for coaches they had. All the talent is there in those halls at that school its just that everyone at Prestonsburg used to automatically believe that our baseball team is horrible and that no one wants to be a part of that.
Yes, I believe that Prestonsburg can compete and defeat Paintsville, Johnson Central, Pikeville, and Lawrence County. Why couldn't they? I'm not saying that they are the at the same caliber as those teams but they have just as much talent as each of those schools have but haven't had the same caliber coach. Now hopefully they do in Marc Shepherd. Thats why this years Prestonsburg team has more expectations, because they have gotten a taste of what its like to go regions, and I'm sure that they'll build of last years success.
FYI, I don not know how the system is set up after regions, and I'll admit that... Sorry.
Again Marc is a quality individual , they dont come any better, but he is very green about baseball. He has never coached it before at either the high school or middle school level. Good to have high expectations though.
The best talent that Prestonsburg has had in recent years was the 2005 squad that had the likes of Jesse Chaffins, Trevor Compton, John Mark Stephens, and Michael Morrison and they were all way too indoctrinated in football to become the players they could have been. Yes PBurg has always had a crappy coach, but just as much blame has to go with the football first mentality. It will always be that way. If you dont have summer and fall teams offered to your players then there is no way that they will ever be able to compete even in the sometimes mediocre 15th region.
If you for one moment think that PBurg has the capabilities that you are professing for this coming season, then you are living in a fantasy world.
Again Marc is a quality individual , they dont come any better, but he is very green about baseball. He has never coached it before at either the high school or middle school level. Good to have high expectations though.
The best talent that Prestonsburg has had in recent years was the 2005 squad that had the likes of Jesse Chaffins, Trevor Compton, John Mark Stephens, and Michael Morrison and they were all way too indoctrinated in football to become the players they could have been. Yes PBurg has always had a crappy coach, but just as much blame has to go with the football first mentality. It will always be that way. If you dont have summer and fall teams offered to your players then there is no way that they will ever be able to compete even in the sometimes mediocre 15th region.
If you for one moment think that PBurg has the capabilities that you are professing for this coming season, then you are living in a fantasy world.
no im well aware they aren't that good, i dont remember saying they were, i didn't mean it that way
TRUEBALLAHOLLA
12-30-2007, 05:29 PM
i thought it was asking for D1 players, and if so, im not being mean or anything but p-burg just simply doesn't have any players at that capability....just because you hit well over.400 in eastern kentucky doesn't mean by any means are you D1 material...alot teams are known to pad their stats especialy in the 57th distrtict, i think i seen in the paper one day last year where paintsville had 4 or 5 hitters well up over .400 and that just wasn't the case at all
Paintsville's stats were very legit. But I guess you were at every single game keeping stats. Maybe them having 4 or 5 players hitting over .400 is why they were 27-6 and ranked in the top 10 in the state...Just maybe but who knows. Since you are on the stats kick then maybe you should go to schools like P-Burg, Magoffin, and AC to teach them how to run a book. **** P-Burg had a kid hitting over .600 in the paper and when we played them he didn't touch it but I guess that is the benefit of having your father keeping stats. But to your first statement you are right, if you hit .400 it doesn't mean you are D-1.
Paintsville's stats were very legit. But I guess you were at every single game keeping stats. Maybe them having 4 or 5 players hitting over .400 is why they were 27-6 and ranked in the top 10 in the state...Just maybe but who knows. Since you are on the stats kick then maybe you should go to schools like P-Burg, Magoffin, and AC to teach them how to run a book. **** P-Burg had a kid hitting over .600 in the paper and when we played them he didn't touch it but I guess that is the benefit of having your father keeping stats. But to your first statement you are right, if you hit .400 it doesn't mean you are D-1.
your right i really didn't mean to single paintsville out on the stats thing, it wasn't my intention....magoffin was bad and there were quite a few others that were, i think magoffin, as bad as they were, had the top four hitters in the region on their team by the end of the year if that explains anything, all of them hitting over .400...all im saying is for that many people to be over .400 is just way too far fetched, thats like a baseketball team having their entire starting 5 averaging over 20 pts a game....you have to admit, as good of a game as it was in the district, paintsville didn't look that great at the plate, with the exception of a couple players....but i will admit i did think paintsville would have won anyway though....against good pitching paintsville struggled a little bit and thats why i question the stats, but to your defense their schedule was weak enough to where those stats might have been possible..
The Guru
12-31-2007, 12:03 AM
your right i really didn't mean to single paintsville out on the stats thing, it wasn't my intention....magoffin was bad and there were quite a few others that were, i think magoffin, as bad as they were, had the top four hitters in the region on their team by the end of the year if that explains anything, all of them hitting over .400...all im saying is for that many people to be over .400 is just way too far fetched, thats like a baseketball team having their entire starting 5 averaging over 20 pts a game....you have to admit, as good of a game as it was in the district, paintsville didn't look that great at the plate, with the exception of a couple players....but i will admit i did think paintsville would have won anyway though....against good pitching paintsville struggled a little bit and thats why i question the stats, but to your defense their schedule was weak enough to where those stats might have been possible..
I think you might have seen stats from early to mid season from Paintsville, as I know for a fact that at one point early they did have 4 guys hitting over .400.
But by seasons end they might have had one, Daniel Pugh(Morehead State).
Paintsville was near the top in offense in the state last year.
I think you might have seen stats from early to mid season from Paintsville, as I know for a fact that at one point early they did have 4 guys hitting over .400.
But by seasons end they might have had one, Daniel Pugh(Morehead State).
Paintsville was near the top in offense in the state last year.
i know they were near the top in that but near the bottom in strength of schedule and it kinda balances each other out whenever your scoring 20+ runs against teams such as south floyd and betsy layne and other schools near the top are playing teams in the top 10 week in week out...so thats why i think the stats are so mis-leading, because its not balanced throughout the state and its hard to get a good read on teams when they dont play the same type of schedule...do you not agree? im not by any mean picking on paintsville im just simply using them as an example, it goes the same for magoffin or anyone else
The Guru
12-31-2007, 12:36 AM
i know they were near the top in that but near the bottom in strength of schedule and it kinda balances each other out whenever your scoring 20+ runs against teams such as south floyd and betsy layne and other schools near the top are playing teams in the top 10 week in week out...so thats why i think the stats are so mis-leading, because its not balanced throughout the state and its hard to get a good read on teams when they dont play the same type of schedule...do you not agree? im not by any mean picking on paintsville im just simply using them as an example, it goes the same for magoffin or anyone else
Oh I agree that Paintsville didn't play the hardest schedule. But theirs was not weak. They had 5 games against the top 3 teams from the 16th, were they went 2-3 getting outscored 31-30.
3 games against the top 2 teams from the 14th were they won all three games by a margin of 28-6.
They beat a pretty dang good Oak Ridge Tenn. team
Beat a pretty good Butler team from powerhouse 6th reg. 10-4 and a decent J-town team in Jtowns own Tourney!
So that puts them at 8-3 against some pretty good teams that were not from the 15th.
they were 11-4 outside of the 15th. Paintsville High is not rich and going on big road trips is not easy but they do a decent job getting good competition.
How many teams from eastern Ky. have any harder schedules?
I'd say they are at least playing a top 6-7 hardest schedule in EKY.
Oh I agree that Paintsville didn't play the hardest schedule. But theirs was not weak. They had 5 games against the top 3 teams from the 16th, were they went 2-3 getting outscored 31-30.
3 games against the top 2 teams from the 14th were they won all three games by a margin of 28-6.
They beat a pretty dang good Oak Ridge Tenn. team
Beat a pretty good Butler team from powerhouse 6th reg. 10-4 and a decent J-town team in Jtowns own Tourney!
So that puts them at 8-3 against some pretty good teams that were not from the 15th.
they were 11-4 outside of the 15th. Paintsville High is not rich and going on big road trips is not easy but they do a decent job getting good competition.
How many teams from eastern Ky. have any harder schedules?
I'd say they are at least playing a top 6-7 hardest schedule in EKY.
the only point i guess i was trying to make is those stats could have been the product of alot the 15th teams that are way below par in which they scored a bunch of runs and boosted their stats, but that could be said for alot of teams...the only other team that i have seen with a harder schedule from the 15th is lawrence, i seen them down at the louisville invitational and the schedule they had listed on khsaa was pretty rough, but other than them and jc your right there isn't any other 15th team with harder schedules...those three typically have the strongest schedules and last year i would have to give an edge to lc for the caliber teams they played...i looked on the khsaa website at the end of the season last year and they played shelby county(state runner-up)and mercy ruled them 13-2...
dugout
12-31-2007, 02:44 PM
First Blackcat student your team will be better, the new coach has to be an improvement. Second I live in Floyd co. and I am glad you guys have a good field now(not provided my school board). Hughes and Rodey are good players but not D1. Another team which will be helped by a new field is Belphy. But these should be diccussed on a new forum.
High_Heat
02-23-2008, 12:33 PM
Tyler Dotson - Belfry
Kyle5_88
02-24-2008, 09:53 PM
Dotson is definately a good talent that should get a scholarship. There are about 3 to 4 kids on Belfry's team that could go to college on scholarships(on the team not just seniors)over the next few years. I would like to challenge the coaching staff to help these talented young athletes.
Tyler Dotson - Belfry
im sorry guys, no offense to the kid at all, but being a division 1 athlete takes a lot and a specail kind of player and i just personally do not think that dotson is D1 material...sorry he's just not there
The Blue Blur
02-25-2008, 04:38 PM
I think you might have seen stats from early to mid season from Paintsville, as I know for a fact that at one point early they did have 4 guys hitting over .400.
But by seasons end they might have had one, Daniel Pugh(Morehead State).
Paintsville was near the top in offense in the state last year.
Know for a fact Sublett finished the year hitting .415. Don't know the exact of DP but I'm sure he was hitting over .400 as well. Don't know if there were anymore.
I think you might have seen stats from early to mid season from Paintsville, as I know for a fact that at one point early they did have 4 guys hitting over .400.
But by seasons end they might have had one, Daniel Pugh(Morehead State).
Paintsville was near the top in offense in the state last year.
yeh im pretty sure that dp was the only one hitting over .400 at the end of last season..
Know for a fact Sublett finished the year hitting .415. Don't know the exact of DP but I'm sure he was hitting over .400 as well. Don't know if there were anymore.
sorry but i agree with guru he was the only one at the end of the year hitting over .400...i know the stats you looked at i seen them too in the big sandy news, but by the end of the year he was below .400...those stats never stayed very up to date...
The Blue Blur
02-25-2008, 11:14 PM
sorry but i agree with guru he was the only one at the end of the year hitting over .400...i know the stats you looked at i seen them too in the big sandy news, but by the end of the year he was below .400...those stats never stayed very up to date...
No the stats I looked at are official from the team last year.
No the stats I looked at are official from the team last year.
then what was the rest of the batting averages for the other three who were batting over .400? or is the only one you know subby's? im not calling you a liar but i doubt they just give those out unless your apart of the staff...the last "official" stats i seen were the ones in the big sandy, so does that mean your apart of the staff? if so then fine you know more than everyone else, but if not how can i look at these stats?
TRUEBALLAHOLLA
02-26-2008, 09:49 AM
http://eteamz.active.com/PaintsvilleBaseball/roster/
He are Paintsville's end of the year stats for two years ago in the '06 season.
http://eteamz.active.com/PaintsvilleBaseball/roster/
He are Paintsville's end of the year stats for two years ago in the '06 season.
two years ago wasn' last year
TRUEBALLAHOLLA
02-26-2008, 11:14 AM
two years ago wasn' last year
Good Call haha...it's still a baseball season.
slingblade93
02-26-2008, 11:36 AM
I know for a fact that Shane Grimm is d-1 material. He is even going to make a visit with Florida State, I believe. If you are not D-1 material the likes of cincy and Wvu would not take interest in you. He is a strong thrower with great velocity and accuracy along with being left handed. He is also one of the smartest baseball kids I have seen in the area. Lets keep the thread on track.
I know for a fact that Shane Grimm is d-1 material. He is even going to make a visit with Florida State, I believe. If you are not D-1 material the likes of cincy and Wvu would not take interest in you. He is a strong thrower with great velocity and accuracy along with being left handed. He is also one of the smartest baseball kids I have seen in the area. Lets keep the thread on track.
i dont remember saying that grimm wasnt d1 material...he's a great pitcher and i agree with you, i haven't heard about florida state, but he could play at some d1 schools im sure...
slingblade93
02-26-2008, 01:15 PM
i dont remember saying that grimm wasnt d1 material...he's a great pitcher and i agree with you, i haven't heard about florida state, but he could play at some d1 schools im sure...
I wasn't saying that you did. Just that people don't know talent when the see it sometimes. We have a lot of talent in the mountains that goes undiscovered.
I wasn't saying that you did. Just that people don't know talent when the see it sometimes. We have a lot of talent in the mountains that goes undiscovered.
well i agree sometimes that is the case, but in most cases its the opposite...people think somebody is alot better than what they really are...sometimes on certain teams in the mountains, just because they are the best player on that team doesn't mean they are scholarship worthy....but i will agree there are 2 possibly 3 players that are d1 material in the 15th...i can't think of much more than that...
The Joker
02-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Hayes is the only D-1 prospect for this upcoming senior class. If Grimm has been throwing alot and working on his arm strenght since last baseball season to where he is pitching from 85-88 I think he could be a D-1. If he doesn't gain any velocity from last year I'd say he will end up at a Pikeville college or small Juco.
Does anyone know a list of players that have signed D-1 letters in the past 5 to 6 years? I can only think of a few.
Mr.Kimball
02-26-2008, 02:57 PM
I know for a fact that Shane Grimm is d-1 material. He is even going to make a visit with Florida State, I believe. If you are not D-1 material the likes of cincy and Wvu would not take interest in you. He is a strong thrower with great velocity and accuracy along with being left handed. He is also one of the smartest baseball kids I have seen in the area. Lets keep the thread on track.
I didn't know we had college scouts amongst us here.:D
slingblade93
02-26-2008, 03:12 PM
I didn't know we had college scouts amongst us here.:D
Don't have to be a scout, smart ***, to know talent. If he is not D-1 material then why are D-1 colleges looking at him?:D
I didn't know we had college scouts amongst us here.:D
oh yea ive met about 20 or 30 on here atleast...come highly recommended too..haha...not really
kyrifle
02-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Hayes is the only D-1 prospect for this upcoming senior class. If Grimm has been throwing alot and working on his arm strenght since last baseball season to where he is pitching from 85-88 I think he could be a D-1. If he doesn't gain any velocity from last year I'd say he will end up at a Pikeville college or small Juco.
Does anyone know a list of players that have signed D-1 letters in the past 5 to 6 years? I can only think of a few.
Steve Blevins from LC signed with Cinn.
LC had a really good SS about 3 yrs ago that signed with Vrg Tech I think. Name escapes me.
Daniel Pugh signed with Morehead last year.
I think JC has signe quiet a few D-1 player in the past: Harry Meek, UofL, Mike Hall UofL, Mo Hall signed with UofL but didn't stay long. Willie Blair, Morehead State. I cant remember any more but Mr Kimble can probably name quiet a few more.
Paintsville also signed a few players a few seasons ago. David Lemaster, Clemson, Scott Daniel, East Tenn State, John Doug Miller, Morehead State, Lance Daniels, WKU,
Roger Daniel, WKU. I'm sure I've left out a ton of guys, but most of you wouldn't remember them anyway. Much too young.
Mr.Kimball
02-26-2008, 04:58 PM
Steve Blevins from LC signed with Cinn.
LC had a really good SS about 3 yrs ago that signed with Vrg Tech I think. Name escapes me.
Daniel Pugh signed with Morehead last year.
I think JC has signe quiet a few D-1 player in the past: Harry Meek, UofL, Mike Hall UofL, Mo Hall signed with UofL but didn't stay long. Willie Blair, Morehead State. I cant remember any more but Mr Kimble can probably name quiet a few more.
Paintsville also signed a few players a few seasons ago. David Lemaster, Clemson, Scott Daniel, East Tenn State, John Doug Miller, Morehead State, Lance Daniels, WKU,
Roger Daniel, WKU. I'm sure I've left out a ton of guys, but most of you wouldn't remember them anyway. Much too young.
As for Johnson Central, Matt Fyffe just this past season can be added. Timmy Baldwin signed with Morehead a few years ago. Heath Castle went the JUCO route and went to Saint Catharines before going to UK his junior season. Thing is he was drafted twice out of Saint Catharines twice before he ever went to a D1 school. Adam Blanton had the opportunity of attending Kentucky and a couple of other D1 schools a couple of years ago, but chose to go to Cumberland instead. Also had the opportunity to transfer to Marshall in the second semester just last season, and again declined. Those are the most recent out of JC.
Chase Huffman of Pikeville signed with Morehead two years ago. Those would be the most recent that I can think of right of the top of my head out of Pikeville.
John Bevins out of Pike Central signd with Walters State around 2000 which is the best JUCO program in the United States, period. A lot of those guys dont even fool with going to a D1 school when they leave there. They get paid to play.
Casey Howard out of Lawrence Co. signed with EKU somewhere around 2002.
There is a big difference in getting letters and visitation requests. That's all just very routine stuff. When they start making you offers that is the tell-all.
Every individual is different. What may be a great situation for one may not be a great situation for another. There are a bunch of these "experts" on here that will look down upon Grimm if he does not sign with a D1 school because ignorance is a disease around these parts. There would be nothing wrong with Grimm going to a DII, DIII, JUCO,or a good NAIA school. There is some dang good baseball in all of those divisions. To be honest Grimm would be very doubtful in making the rotation early in his career at a school like Cumberland, Campbellsville, or Union to begin with. To me the best place to go is where you get the chance to play and just forget about the stigma of D1. This aint football or basketball, it's baseball. Whole different animal when it comes to the college level.
Steve Blevins from LC signed with Cinn.
LC had a really good SS about 3 yrs ago that signed with Vrg Tech I think. Name escapes me.
Daniel Pugh signed with Morehead last year.
I think JC has signe quiet a few D-1 player in the past: Harry Meek, UofL, Mike Hall UofL, Mo Hall signed with UofL but didn't stay long. Willie Blair, Morehead State. I cant remember any more but Mr Kimble can probably name quiet a few more.
Paintsville also signed a few players a few seasons ago. David Lemaster, Clemson, Scott Daniel, East Tenn State, John Doug Miller, Morehead State, Lance Daniels, WKU,
Roger Daniel, WKU. I'm sure I've left out a ton of guys, but most of you wouldn't remember them anyway. Much too young.
spencer harris went to virginia tech...great shortstop not so great bat...but i remember playing against him when i was younger...
High_Heat
02-26-2008, 10:55 PM
im sorry guys, no offense to the kid at all, but being a division 1 athlete takes a lot and a specail kind of player and i just personally do not think that dotson is D1 material...sorry he's just not there
ok i dont know why you have a problem with Tyler, but he batted .455 last year, i dont know what you think d1 material is but if that isnt i dont know what is. he is switching to first basebase this year because eastren (D1 COLLEGE) offered him a scholarship if he was a first basemen. please dont comment on somthing you know nothing about.
ok i dont know why you have a problem with Tyler, but he batted .455 last year, i dont know what you think d1 material is but if that isnt i dont know what is. he is switching to first basebase this year because eastren (D1 COLLEGE) offered him a scholarship if he was a first basemen. please dont comment on somthing you know nothing about.
offered him a scholarship only if he was a first baseman? hit .455?? im almost 100% sure that daniel pugh had the highest batting average at the end of the year and if dotson hit .455 i think more people would have heard about it....i may not know alot about belfry baseball, but i have seen this kid play and i do know quite a bit about recruitment and playing college baseball...i honestly just never heard of a d1 school really approaching it in that manner..maybe this is a first for me i dont know, but ive just never seen it done the way you described it being done...i would think that if they want him, they want him and they would have already offered...have they made an official offer? im not calling you a liar im just wondering if he was offered a scholarship...is that what your saying?
High_Heat
02-27-2008, 12:28 PM
offered him a scholarship only if he was a first baseman? hit .455?? im almost 100% sure that daniel pugh had the highest batting average at the end of the year and if dotson hit .455 i think more people would have heard about it....i may not know alot about belfry baseball, but i have seen this kid play and i do know quite a bit about recruitment and playing college baseball...i honestly just never heard of a d1 school really approaching it in that manner..maybe this is a first for me i dont know, but ive just never seen it done the way you described it being done...i would think that if they want him, they want him and they would have already offered...have they made an official offer? im not calling you a liar im just wondering if he was offered a scholarship...is that what your saying?
he was souted several times by eastren last year along with a couple smallar school out of WV, WV state being on of them, plus pikeville.had a .500 avg going in to the regional tourny. well all know what happend to belfry in that one. Eastren said they would be more than thrilled to give him a schoolarship if he switched to firstbase because his previous postion was third, and well lets just say hes wasnt the best third basemenhe had trouble with the long throw and he wasnt quite fast enough to play there at the D1 level.
he was souted several times by eastren last year along with a couple smallar school out of WV, WV state being on of them, plus pikeville.had a .500 avg going in to the regional tourny. well all know what happend to belfry in that one. Eastren said they would be more than thrilled to give him a schoolarship if he switched to firstbase because his previous postion was third, and well lets just say hes wasnt the best third basemenhe had trouble with the long throw and he wasnt quite fast enough to play there at the D1 level.
ok well i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one..
cardsplayer15
03-08-2008, 01:41 AM
i am sorry to disappoint any blackcatfans but there is no on p-burgs team that can play for a d-1 school. most of their players couldnt even make it on a goo little league team.
hahaha
i am sorry to disappoint any blackcatfans but there is no on p-burgs team that can play for a d-1 school. most of their players couldnt even make it on a goo little league team.
hahaha
Come on that's a little crazy. Rodebaugh is a great athlete and he could go to a small college somewhere and contribute.
High_Heat
03-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Just to clear things up, Tyler dotson isn't going to EKU, he went away from that opption. It is rumored he will be signing with Allice Lloyd.
im wrong,
High_Heat
03-10-2008, 08:41 PM
i am sorry to disappoint any blackcatfans but there is no on p-burgs team that can play for a d-1 school. most of their players couldnt even make it on a goo little league team.
hahaha
Rodebaugh is a great athlete, if im not mistaking he hit a home run in last years regional tourny against pville?? he could eaisly go to a small school like pikeville, eku, ect and play.
Mr.Kimball
03-10-2008, 08:49 PM
Rodebaugh is a great athlete, if im not mistaking he hit a home run in last years regional tourny against pville?? he could eaisly go to a small school like pikeville, eku, ect and play.
Not if Pikeville ever has any plans of competing in the Mid -South.
"INSIGHT"
03-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Not if Pikeville ever has any plans of competing in the Mid -South.
I agree, I hear a lot of talk on here about players recieving offers and letters from different D-1 colleges and the facts are that very few college scouts view view any 15th regional baseball games during the regular season simply due to the fact that the college season is in full swing at that time...So if you want to be recruited then you must go to them. ie: summer ball, College camps, showcases, Regional all star games or play in the state finals at applebee's .....
exceptions to this might be Alice lloyd, Pikeville College, UVA wise , or small local colleges with not so prosperous Baseball programs.......
So unless you are doing these things as a player D1 baseball won't happen for you... at the same time D1 may not be the best way to go as a freshman.
Facts are that there aren't very many 15th region players doing these things:
But IMO there are only a couple who might qualify as d1 potential from this years seniors.
1) Grimm Paintsville LHP 6'2" good velocity and has been on visits to D1 schools.
2) timmy Hayes LC Catcher 6'2" good pop time and also has high visability
I agree, I hear a lot of talk on here about players recieving offers and letters from different D-1 colleges and the facts are that very few college scouts view view any 15th regional baseball games during the regular season simply due to the fact that the college season is in full swing at that time...So if you want to be recruited then you must go to them. ie: summer ball, College camps, showcases, Regional all star games or play in the state finals at applebee's .....
exceptions to this might be Alice lloyd, Pikeville College, UVA wise , or small local colleges with not so prosperous Baseball programs.......
So unless you are doing these things as a player D1 baseball won't happen for you... at the same time D1 may not be the best way to go as a freshman.
Facts are that there aren't very many 15th region players doing these things:
But IMO there are only a couple who might qualify as d1 potential from this years seniors.
1) Grimm Paintsville LHP 6'2" good velocity and has been on visits to D1 schools.
2) timmy Hayes LC Catcher 6'2" good pop time and also has high visability
Those are the only two at the time that are good enough. I think if Grimm wasn't left handed he might struggle. But that really inhances his chances at getting picked up by a good program.
"INSIGHT"
03-11-2008, 01:33 PM
Those are the only two at the time that are good enough. I think if Grimm wasn't left handed he might struggle. But that really inhances his chances at getting picked up by a good program.
I think that there are several juniors and a few more seniors that can and will play college baseball somewhere, there are a lot of college programs out there.but my point being that they probably won't get much of a chance if all they do is play High School ball in this area.
"INSIGHT"
03-11-2008, 01:45 PM
Rodebaugh is a great athlete, if im not mistaking he hit a home run in last years regional tourny against pville?? he could eaisly go to a small school like pikeville, eku, ect and play.
Does rodebaugh do anything toward baseball in the off season?
He might be able to play for Alice lloyd or Pikeville but EKU is not possible.
RHP's throwing in the high 70's or low 80's are a dime a dozen and it would reqire a lot of marketing or exposure to get a school like EKU interested.
I believe matt fyffe went to EKU this year and they became interested in him after he attended their Showcase...not to mention that he pitched his team to the state finals last year....
This is really a simple issue ....just do the work and prove your ability to the scouts or college coaches.
Does rodebaugh do anything toward baseball in the off season?
He might be able to play for Alice lloyd or Pikeville but EKU is not possible.
RHP's throwing in the high 70's or low 80's are a dime a dozen and it would reqire a lot of marketing or exposure to get a school like EKU interested.
I believe matt fyffe went to EKU this year and they became interested in him after he attended their Showcase...not to mention that he pitched his team to the state finals last year....
This is really a simple issue ....just do the work and prove your ability to the scouts or college coaches.
No he didn't pitch them to the state finals. That was Shelby County and Dunbar. They got a no-hitter pitched against them in the first round with Fyffe pitching against Dunbar.
"INSIGHT"
03-12-2008, 10:02 AM
No he didn't pitch them to the state finals. That was Shelby County and Dunbar. They got a no-hitter pitched against them in the first round with Fyffe pitching against Dunbar.
BY finals of the state I meant a trip to applebees...give me a break!!!!
I'm aware they didn't make the championship game.....
I was there!!!!!
BY finals of the state I meant a trip to applebees...give me a break!!!!
I'm aware they didn't make the championship game.....
I was there!!!!!
Well good I was just trying to clarify what you were talking about it. Sometimes you never know if people know that or not. I had no idea if you did, so I was just clarifying. No disrespect.
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