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BasketBallonlyfan
10-26-2007, 08:43 PM
final

The King
10-26-2007, 08:43 PM
final

red_devils_rule
10-26-2007, 08:46 PM
Congrats Prestonsburg

UnderArmour24
10-26-2007, 09:06 PM
Congrats Pburg on the win on senior night. This game should have been easily 28-0 but refs kept Valley in it and was also one of pburgs down games. Everytime Pburg got a decent run they would call it back. But Valley is a decent team and should keep there heads up.

blackcat
10-26-2007, 09:41 PM
I was told Prestonsburg was a little sloppy on offense, but I guess that doesn't matter if they shut the other team out. Prestonsburg defense is playing awesome this year, good job guys keep it up. Good job Valley on a hard faught game.

How did Burchett do at QB?

dfblackcat53
10-26-2007, 10:04 PM
micheals first varsity pass was a 30+ yard touchdown..

gish
10-26-2007, 10:10 PM
How did Burchett do at QB?


I'm pretty sure he threw a TD pass. Other then that didn't really get much of a chance to show off his arm unless it was obvious passing downs (3rd and 10+). I realize coach D didn't want to ask him to do to much with it being his first start, but I feel that Burchett is a capable pocket passer and felt that Derossett didn't let him do enough. Valley had 10 in the box all night and that makes it hard to run successfully against anyone. Hopefully next week Pburg decides to open it up some . Valley is a much improved team , but Pburg will have to face alot better teams if they want a regional championship, and they must have a more balanced offense then they have now.

EastKySports21
10-26-2007, 10:23 PM
it looked like the p-burg player wasnt stopping once the whistle blew and seem to get a lot of holding calls but thats how they reffed so what can we do

Kysportsfan
10-26-2007, 10:26 PM
Both teams were VERY sloppy tonight. At one point, valley had 3 fumbles in a row... The rain this week also played a huge factor in this game. Burchett did rather well for his first game, thought he should have got one of the player of the game awards. Congrats pburg, keep your heads up valley!

More Cowbell
10-26-2007, 10:37 PM
Sounds like it was a defensive struggle all night. Congratulations to the Blackcat defense for recording a shutout.

Incidentally, I, along with most people who made game predictions on the pre-game thread, got the winner and the final margin right. Most people had guessed a 2 TD margin (I said 27-13), but I never imagined Valley would be shut out.

More Cowbell
10-26-2007, 10:42 PM
Congrats Pburg on the win on senior night. This game should have been easily 28-0 but refs kept Valley in it and was also one of pburgs down games. Everytime Pburg got a decent run they would call it back. But Valley is a decent team and should keep there heads up.

Yeah, the refs definitely wanted Valley to win tonight... ;)

:rolleyes:

blackcat
10-26-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm pretty sure he threw a TD pass. Other then that didn't really get much of a chance to show off his arm unless it was obvious passing downs (3rd and 10+). I realize coach D didn't want to ask him to do to much with it being his first start, but I feel that Burchett is a capable pocket passer and felt that Derossett didn't let him do enough. Valley had 10 in the box all night and that makes it hard to run successfully against anyone. Hopefully next week Pburg decides to open it up some . Valley is a much improved team , but Pburg will have to face alot better teams if they want a regional championship, and they must have a more balanced offense then they have now.

Same problems Prestonsburg has had in the recent years.

15thRegionCrazy
10-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Congrats Blackcats!

EastKySports21
10-26-2007, 10:48 PM
hmm u all say the refs cheated valley yet they got 3 unsportsman like conduct called.. it seem that p-burg also wetted their field down in the middle because the sides looked dry
but im looking forward to a GREAT matchup in the playoffs

gish
10-26-2007, 10:52 PM
I think the refs were too involved tonight... in regards to both teams

UnderArmour24
10-26-2007, 10:53 PM
hmm u all say the refs cheated valley yet they got 3 unsportsman like conduct called.. it seem that p-burg also wetted their field down in the middle because the sides looked dry
but im looking forward to a GREAT matchup in the playoffs

Yeah and Pburg had 3 or 4 unsportsmanlike calls to and also had atleast 6 or 7 holding calls and on the punt return to the 1 yard line they called a block in the back that i saw that was clearly a clean block and wasnt even close to being a block in the back but ah well no use in arguing about it its over and there is nothing you can do about it. It was a sloppy game and the field was very wet like you said.

More Cowbell
10-26-2007, 10:58 PM
Bringing up the officiating in a game like this really serves no purpose. It had no bearing on who won the game, and the better team won on a wet, sloppy night.

Congrats to P-Burg on winning district, and congrats to Valley, who will still get to host a first-round playoff game.

Redneck
10-26-2007, 11:35 PM
hmm u all say the refs cheated valley yet they got 3 unsportsman like conduct called.. it seem that p-burg also wetted their field down in the middle because the sides looked dry
but im looking forward to a GREAT matchup in the playoffs

Are you serious? After the rain this entire area has got the last few days :rolleyes:

Redneck
10-26-2007, 11:37 PM
Congrats Pburg

IMO, Pburg is gonna be hurtin in the playoffs without Bobby Hughes, no offense to Burchett. Hughes was the leader of this team and arguably one of the better QB's in EKY. He was also a good player on the defensive side of the ball. I think tonight showed how important he was to this team.

Panther Thunder
10-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Congrats Pburg on the win on senior night. This game should have been easily 28-0 but refs kept Valley in it and was also one of pburgs down games. Everytime Pburg got a decent run they would call it back. But Valley is a decent team and should keep there heads up.
I've watched Prestonsburg play three times this year and they hold more than any team I've seen. Against Beechwood there were at least 8-10 holding penalties that were not called.

Redneck
10-26-2007, 11:51 PM
I've watched Prestonsburg play three times this year and they hold more than any team I've seen. Against Beechwood there were at least 8-10 holding penalties that were not called.

I'm sure every team in EKY could be called for holdin 8-10 times a game if the refs wanted to get strict about it.

Panther Thunder
10-26-2007, 11:53 PM
I'm sure every team in EKY could be called for holdin 8-10 times a game if the refs wanted to get strict about it.
I know that much but they were blanted holds and some even tackles. I know that there are a lot of missed called that could go either way but these weren't even close.

Redneck
10-26-2007, 11:57 PM
I know that much but they were blanted holds and some even tackles. I know that there are a lot of missed called that could go either way but these weren't even close.

If that's the case a hold shoulda been called. I wasn't there so IDK, ain't seen Pburg play once this year.

Panther Thunder
10-27-2007, 12:01 AM
If that's the case a hold shoulda been called. I wasn't there so IDK, ain't seen Pburg play once this year.
Not trying to take anything away from the them because they are a very good football team. It will really hurt them not having Hughes in there though. He made the offense click and was a great leader. In order for Prestonsburg to make a playoff run they will really need to minimize penalties and turnovers because points may be scarce and the defense will really have to step it up like they did tonight.

pillsburythrowboy
10-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Big props to Valley!
Wheres the blowout?
If P-burg's second team could beat Valley they must eb pretty darn good.

More Cowbell
10-27-2007, 12:32 AM
Big props to Valley!
Wheres the blowout?
If P-burg's second team could beat Valley they must eb pretty darn good.

Don't you know, if P-Burg's JV had played the whole game, they would've beaten poor little Shelby Valley something like 40-0! :rolleyes:

PLAYBOY5
10-27-2007, 06:09 AM
WOW, 14-0//Way to play the Blackcats Valley! Thought this one would get out of hand and fast! Congrats P-Burg on the victory!

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 06:48 AM
Congratulations Prestonsburg on a hard-fought game. I'm proud of the Wildcats. Valley defense worked hard all night long. If someone could tell how many minutes our offense was on the field, I'd love to know. My guess is less than 10 total minutes...

What's your guys' opinions on the shutout? Did Valley's offense just not show up? Or was Prestonsburg's defense just that tough? Or did our offensive line just forget to block?

I'm going to have to disagree with UnderArmour24 until I see some stats. I don't remember an unsportsmanlike call against P-burg - well, maybe one. During the game, I was very mad...thought the refs let the kids hold too much, but this morning, I think all in all, it was a pretty good game. Valley really should be proud. Not the blowout that was predicted....

FOX SPORTS
10-27-2007, 07:55 AM
Did SV really wear their home jerseys??
I heard they did.
What's up with teams not wearing their road jerseys when on the road?

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 08:17 AM
I heard it was to irritate P-burg and make a statement (?). I wasn't there, but someone said P-burg wore their home jerseys to Pikeville two weeks ago. But, yes, Valley was wearing blue.

The King
10-27-2007, 08:26 AM
It looked like one of the unsportsmanlike calls on SV was for the coach putting his hands on a referee after a play.

panther2
10-27-2007, 08:33 AM
congrats Pburg

bball fan
10-27-2007, 09:11 AM
I tried to listen to this game but it was impossible to tell what was going on. The announcers on Q95 are awful. They just talk to each other like two fans sitting in the stands. They never tell the listener where the ball is or where the play ends. Most of the time they are silent while the play is going on. I had no choice but to turn the game off!

SVHSWildcat22
10-27-2007, 09:55 AM
Congrats Pburg on the win on senior night. This game should have been easily 28-0 but refs kept Valley in it and was also one of pburgs down games. Everytime Pburg got a decent run they would call it back. But Valley is a decent team and should keep there heads up.

i would have to disagree. The referees blew it for Valley. The refs were always calling the penaltys on Valley. Valley just didnt want to play i guess. Tyler Johnson was a little sloppy on QB. Cody Varney played some QB. But he didn't do much at all. Valley could hardly run or pass. Every pass I seen go long was knocked down. Valley just didn't want to win.

BurntTires
10-27-2007, 10:42 AM
Congrats Blackcats

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 11:08 AM
i would have to disagree. The referees blew it for Valley. The refs were always calling the penaltys on Valley. Valley just didnt want to play i guess. Tyler Johnson was a little sloppy on QB. Cody Varney played some QB. But he didn't do much at all. Valley could hardly run or pass. Every pass I seen go long was knocked down. Valley just didn't want to win.

Whoa, hold on just a minute. The OFFENSE didn't seem like they wanted to win. The defense did a good job. I know that sounds weird, since the score was 14-0, but if our defense hadn't worked hard all night, the score could've been 40-0. And, seriously, our offense wasn't on the field a full 10 minutes.

And, the refs were definitely helping the Blackcats. No one could deny that.....and the fact that the water on the field smelled like creek water, not rain water.....

BUT, Prestonsburg won and should be congratulated. They've got some tremendous athletes to be proud of.

I believe Valley can beat Prestonsburg in the playoffs. What fun it will be....

Pupaw
10-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Congrats to P-burg on what sounds to be a hard fought win. Was told that the field was really muddy last night too. So it must have been exciting. Good job to Valley for hanging in there with one of the best teams in the area. Good luck to both the rest of the way.

dfblackcat53
10-27-2007, 11:14 AM
i would have to disagree. The referees blew it for Valley. The refs were always calling the penaltys on Valley. Valley just didnt want to play i guess. Tyler Johnson was a little sloppy on QB. Cody Varney played some QB. But he didn't do much at all. Valley could hardly run or pass. Every pass I seen go long was knocked down. Valley just didn't want to win.

Haha what? The refs were trying as hard as they could for SVHS to win...we haven't got that many holding calls all year probably, and last night there was at least over 10.

NYY10
10-27-2007, 11:25 AM
I knew it wouldn't be a blow out, so if Pburgs JV can whoop Valley's Varsity, then they must be monsters... But all in all...Congrats to Pburg on the win, Can't wait to see a rematch in playoffs!!

theref
10-27-2007, 11:33 AM
by rule that coach should been ejected.... it must have been for something else.

Would someone get the facts right, were the refs cheating for you or for them? Really, do you think they care who wins?

Who were the refs? 15th or from another region

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 12:02 PM
haha what? the refs were trying as hard as they could for svhs to win..we havnt got that many holding calls all year probally, and last night there was at least over 10.

Sadly, I believe you.

BCF4L
10-27-2007, 12:47 PM
Big props to Valley!
Wheres the blowout?
If P-burg's second team could beat Valley they must eb pretty darn good.
You have really shown exactly how terrible your team has been, excited because you didn't get blown out. Need I remind you, Valley still didn't score. They had 0 points and you are happy because they didn't get blown out. Valley played ok I guess, but Prestonsburg just played terrible. When you stack 10 in the box, the obvious thing is to pass the ball. Oh well, Prestonsburg still won, and Valley still lost, no surprise. Good luck the rest of the way for SV and Pburg.

gish
10-27-2007, 12:50 PM
.....and the fact that the water on the field smelled like creek water, not rain water.....



maybe one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read.

BlackcatAlum
10-27-2007, 03:31 PM
Very sloppy game from both teams, and the refs were trigger happy with the flags. Prestonsburg's offense was real sluggish, and Craynon started dancing instead of hitting the whole alot harder, which lead to alot of tackles in the backfield. Valley's defense really surprised me with there speed and how tough they where. Burchett done a real nice job at quarterback, I think we do need to spread the ball out with him and not just throw it to one receiver. Prestonsburg defense done a real nice job, my guess is that Valley didn't have over 150 total offensive yards tonight, but you could really tell how much Bobby Hughes was missed tonight on the field. Coach Derossett is gonna have to spread the ball out for us to do much of anything on the offensive side of the ball in the playoffs. Congrats Blackcats, look forward to seeing you Wildcats down the road.

BHS78
10-27-2007, 04:02 PM
Congrats P-Burg

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 04:09 PM
You have really shown exactly how terrible your team has been, excited because you didn't get blown out.

I disagree with your logic. Prestonsburg is ranked what, number 6 in the state in 2A? Valley is not ranked and was not expected by anyone outside of the Valley faithful to keep that game close. So, while I don't think the score is means for celebration, I do think most people on the losing side of things try to find something positive to take away from the experience, and that's exactly what we're talking about here.

all-or-nothing
10-27-2007, 04:10 PM
Very sloppy game from both teams, and the refs were trigger happy with the flags. Prestonsburg's offense was real sluggish, and Craynon started dancing instead of hitting the whole alot harder, which lead to alot of tackles in the backfield. Valley's defense really surprised me with there speed and how tough they where. Burchett done a real nice job at quarterback, I think we do need to spread the ball out with him and not just throw it to one receiver. Prestonsburg defense done a real nice job, my guess is that Valley didn't have over 150 total offensive yards tonight, but you could really tell how much Bobby Hughes was missed tonight on the field. Coach Derossett is gonna have to spread the ball out for us to do much of anything on the offensive side of the ball in the playoffs. Congrats Blackcats, look forward to seeing you Wildcats down the road.

Nice post.

All-American Lineman
10-27-2007, 04:55 PM
Congrats P-Burg

BCF4L
10-27-2007, 07:33 PM
I disagree with your logic. Prestonsburg is ranked what, number 6 in the state in 2A? Valley is not ranked and was not expected by anyone outside of the Valley faithful to keep that game close. So, while I don't think the score is means for celebration, I do think most people on the losing side of things try to find something positive to take away from the experience, and that's exactly what we're talking about here.
And I don't blame them for that. I mean this is the closest Valley has been to beating Pburg in quite some time. I have to admit that SV is better than they have been in years past, but still have a ways to go to before they beat a top tier team like Pburg. But they are definitely heading in the right direction.

Elwayfan
10-29-2007, 11:04 AM
I've watched Prestonsburg play three times this year and they hold more than any team I've seen. Against Beechwood there were at least 8-10 holding penalties that were not called.
:thumpsup: Always holding on the end when they run jet sweep. I was told by an official that the ends are the toughest spot to see holding penalties because of the way they are positioned on the field.The line judge never makes that call.

blackcat
10-29-2007, 02:33 PM
:thumpsup: Always holding on the end when they run jet sweep. I was told by an official that the ends are the toughest spot to see holding penalties because of the way they are positioned on the field.The line judge never makes that call.

Holding or not, Shelby Valley didn't score, meaning it would have been impossible for them to win.

EastKySports21
10-29-2007, 05:13 PM
lol why was everything dry but the field ? it looked like a swamp

all-or-nothing
10-29-2007, 05:57 PM
Seriously. If the P-burg field is legitimately in that bad shape, I feel sorry for their players. I know it rained and all, but not that much! Surprising they've not had more injuries if they have to play in that mess at home very often.

BlackcatAlum
10-29-2007, 06:59 PM
Guys it rained for nearly three days straight going into this game. And the players practiced in it all week, and where they practiced the most is wear you could see the mud puddle's. But its idiotic to say that people went out of there way to put water onto a field to beat a team that we are highly favored over, its just plain stupid! The game is over so you need to let this one go and worry about your next opponent and I'm sure you guys are gonna get another shot at my Blackcats.

BasketBallonlyfan
10-29-2007, 07:53 PM
I am confused about the muddy field. I mean, it did rain and all that for a few days before the game, that could have been the problem. If it was creek water, did they only spray it where Shelby Valley would be playing or was P-burg playing in the same mud? Could it be that Shelby Valley got turf installed this year and they forgot how to play on a field that has mud and grass on it? As long as it has been that it rained before that game, I am sure that P-burg didnt have that much time on a muddy field, just a couple days before the game itself. By the way, where is the creek in relationship to the football field? Did they have to truck the creek water in? If so, did anyone see them doing it?

BlackcatAlum
10-29-2007, 08:02 PM
I am confused about the muddy field. I mean, it did rain and all that for a few days before the game, that could have been the problem. If it was creek water, did they only spray it where Shelby Valley would be playing or was P-burg playing in the same mud? Could it be that Shelby Valley got turf installed this year and they forgot how to play on a field that has mud and grass on it? As long as it has been that it rained before that game, I am sure that P-burg didnt have that much time on a muddy field, just a couple days before the game itself. By the way, where is the creek in relationship to the football field? Did they have to truck the creek water in? If so, did anyone see them doing it?

Thank you!

dfblackcat53
10-29-2007, 09:52 PM
Whoa, hold on just a minute. The OFFENSE didn't seem like they wanted to win. The defense did a good job. I know that sounds weird, since the score was 14-0, but if our defense hadn't worked hard all night, the score could've been 40-0. And, seriously, our offense wasn't on the field a full 10 minutes.

And, the refs were definitely helping the Blackcats. No one could deny that.....and the fact that the water on the field smelled like creek water, not rain water.....

BUT, Prestonsburg won and should be congratulated. They've got some tremendous athletes to be proud of.

I believe Valley can beat Prestonsburg in the playoffs. What fun it will be....

haha we did not wet our field down..it would hurt us as much as it would have hurt you because we havent played on any wet grass the whole year..and are you a water scent expert or something lol? i thought it all smelled the same..but if i had to take a guess why the water SMELLED different it was probally because the field was muddy and creeks are too so i guess if you mix that you get creekwater?

EKUAlum05
10-29-2007, 10:11 PM
Here's my unbiased opinions after watching the tape delay tonight:

1. Pburg wetting the field?!?!?! SV fans need to get away from their turf stadium a little bit, rain makes mud and SV doesn't ahve enough team speed to even consider this as any far fetched option. If it smelled like creek water, it mgiht be because Pburg's field is located next to a river bank, that's old river mud under the grass.

2. Both teams were highly unimpressive, execution was horrible, numerous costly penalties in key times by BOTH teams.

3. Game seemed to be officiated consistantly to me..both teams were flagged. The only key questionable call I noticed, which did have a huge effect on the game, was the fumble in Pburg territory that set up their second TD. It APPEARED (remember I saw this on TV from a bad angle) that a Blackcat defender jumped offsides and was not flagged, but he evry well could ahve timed the snap count and the angle of the camera couldn't show it.

4. SV gave up on their run too early, when they ahd the football around the Pburg 35 in the first half following a pass interference, they attempted three consecutive deep passes that feel incomplete.

5. When SV did utilize their run they relied much to heavily on the outside, considering the sloppy conditions and Pburg's team speed this was a poor decision.

6. Craynon ran very hard, SV needs to do soem tacklign drills because missed tackles killed their chances.

all-or-nothing
10-30-2007, 07:07 AM
LOL The problem with reading posts and not hearing a person speak is you can't hear the tone. True, the first water comments I made were me being a smart-alec and provoking a fight. The last ones were an attempt to laugh it off and move on. A few days after I've had time to calm down, I apologize for implying that Prestonsburg was capable of playing dirty(haha, get it?). okay, no, not really. Actually, they do play very well, dirty. But, I will take back the accusation that P'burg wet the field. In hindsight, that comment was just illogical.


I really like EKUAlum05's comments - well-argued and sensible. Thanks.

Guess nothing else can really be said on this thread. Good luck to both teams.

Elwayfan
10-30-2007, 08:29 AM
Shelby Valley fans need to quit all the whining. The Dorton area has always had a reputation of blaming losses on everything from the refs to the bad water their boys were drinking. Saunders is doing a heck of a good job. What I'm saying is quit making your area look bad and accept the fact that you just got beat.

Codeman
10-30-2007, 09:31 AM
congratz p burg