New Coach At Lawrence

[lawrencefan]

Assuming that Billy does not return next year, who should take over the reins at Lawrence County? Should they be a local, or someone outside the program?

[Capt. DH]

Dixon, if he does not decide to leave as well.

[DAWG_FAN]

Dixon, if he does not decide to leave as well.
Are you crazy?

[DEVILOLOGIST]

Jared Parker would be a choice for ya.

[lawrencefan]

Dixon, if he does not decide to leave as well.

What high school is Coach Dixon from?

[Batpuff]

Jared Parker would be a choice for ya.

I agree but I really dont see him leaving UK, Also I think since one of his parents is on the BOE I dont think he could.

[Codeman]

Will it benefit to lawrence's program?

[fan_14]

I really think this was needed after the year they just had.

[EkyLb]

Joey Cecil would be a good head coach in my opinion, but he may like just being an assistant, wish he was still at Russell

[Mr. Sandwich]

What high school is Coach Dixon from?

He has always coached at Lawrence County. He went to high school at Fairview and got his degree from Allice Lloyd college. In my opinion, not a good choice for a head coach. But, he is a fantastic motivator.

[Lisa Douglas]

Great place for Jim Matney!

[jchsrulz]

Great place for Jim Matney!
HA HA HA!

[Lisa Douglas]

You don't think he would make them a dandy coach? I think he's done an amazing job with jc... lc could certainly use him!

[Mr. Sandwich]

If Matney left JC, so would the majority of the players and coaching staff.

[lawrencefan]

If Matney left JC, so would the majority of the players and coaching staff.

That would be OK. They're mostly from Lawrence Co. anyway. Ha Ha. Just Kidding.

[red_devils_rule]

What high school is Coach Dixon from?


Fairview Iplayed football with him.

[dawgmom]

Luke Salmons.

[Mr.Kimball]

If Matney left JC, so would the majority of the players and coaching staff.:rolleyes:
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. It's so easy for all the players families to all sell their houses, all get new jobs, and all buy new houses just so they can play for a high school football coach.

[flamethrower]

Assuming that Billy does not return next year, who should take over the reins at Lawrence County? Should they be a local, or someone outside the program?It appears to me that the whole Lawrence school system is run by out of towners. So why take a chance on a local when you can get somebody from Pike County at a huge salary, give them a vehicle and expense account. That appears to be the board of education's secret formula to success.

[Mr. 15th Region]

Chester McCoy of Magoffin County would be a good choice... He has done a heck of a job at MCHS. imagine what he could accomplish at a Lawerence County

[Dawg Family]

I have said it in several other post's and I will say it agian IMO it wouldn't matter who come's in to coach at LC untill thing's changs at the top they will stay the same at the bottom and I am talking about the administration at LC . I don't think it would matter if Phillp Haywood came here he couldn't get it done because you have to have support from the top . I said Mr. Haywood's name because I think he's the best in the state.:thumpsup: GO BELFRY :Clap:
IMO we would have seen a totally different Billy the past four years if we would have had a different admin dpartment . So we need to look at this change taking place then go out get us the best coach we can . That is if Billy doesn't want it any more.

[Lisa Douglas]

Chester McCoy of Magoffin County would be a good choice... He has done a heck of a job at MCHS. imagine what he could accomplish at a Lawerence County


Are you serious?

[Lisa Douglas]

I have said it in several other post's and I will say it agian IMO it wouldn't matter who come's in to coach at LC untill thing's changs at the top they will stay the same at the bottom and I am talking about the administration at LC . I don't think it would matter if Phillp Haywood came here he couldn't get it done because you have to have support from the top . I said Mr. Haywood's name because I think he's the best in the state.:thumpsup: GO BELFRY :Clap:
IMO we would have seen a totally different Billy the past four years if we would have had a different admin dpartment . So we need to look at this change taking place then go out get us the best coach we can . That is if Billy doesn't want it any more.


Great points... one and all... just need to find out if Goldsmith wants out.... is he willing to hang on til a new administration can be placed. It's kinda raw to get on here and begin discussing successors when the coach hasn't left... I wouldn't like it. I don't believe he realized there would be as little support from within this time around... there certainly was plenty of supporters on hand the last time he was there. Maybe you should begin a thread in gen dis about getting a new super... if that's the problem.

[Batpuff]

Great points... one and all... just need to find out if Goldsmith wants out.... is he willing to hang on til a new administration can be placed. It's kinda raw to get on here and begin discussing successors when the coach hasn't left... I wouldn't like it. I don't believe he realized there would be as little support from within this time around... there certainly was plenty of supporters on hand the last time he was there. Maybe you should begin a thread in gen dis about getting a new super... if that's the problem.

Well lets hope the guy at the top (admin) gets the job in Floyd Co. I hear he is in the top 5. I will come up there and tell them what a great guy there getting and support there hiring of him.

[BlackcatAlum]

Well lets hope the guy at the top (admin) gets the job in Floyd Co. I hear he is in the top 5. I will come up there and tell them what a great guy there getting and support there hiring of him.

Care to elaborate?

[cooter]

Well lets hope the guy at the top (admin) gets the job in Floyd Co. I hear he is in the top 5. I will come up there and tell them what a great guy there getting and support there hiring of him.

Lawrence will never get rid of this guy unless the board of ed. ousts him. Who would hire him after the mess he's made in that county?? Hopefully some changes will be made when election time rolls around. If the people of Lawrence want change they better get rid of the board members that support this guy.

[Batpuff]

Care to elaborate?

He is in the running for the Superintendent's Job (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu.eptD1HJEAABSBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0YThoZXF sBHNlYwNvdi10b3AEY29sbwNlBHZ0aWQDRjY1NF83MgRwb3MDM Q--/SIG=1h53v4m0g/EXP=1195312681/**http%3a//rc10.overture.com/d/sr/%3fxargs=15KPjg15hSk5amwr2idLTKT%252DeBx14axca58ch qDJN8HdRIoS5gUOd9aKbIksVxW7064wnZzfWX%252D6QSKvT9k fyIFQ6MQVafSL3y2ozCz4w8hpmXBtxFj7QrwuztOrd%252DIj8 LZmyxb4P%255Fk%252DzKIMCKZz1G%255F44Bzhmb%252D%255 FBsyMqglLYTEqemhxA8o0qFc5Zw5dYqg87DK%252DkMPLUgftD rhXfFfZwQ%252D%252DxZkeyiOikSIVmmkhka9VeHIC55v6zJf pEKv6OgzoLbLKOo3oAALxHNoKE9rAjHnGHp%252DbYmOynd1%2 55FAd0htXD%255FKjPirBeDsfi76F06CYP401szC5GJvUXiCvP h0UKkN0VrW4eFjWMzBk7x%252DRIs8GQvft9yK4BLWOG3Flb1I H%252DYK5Oec20w%252E%252E%26yargs=www.hotjobs.com)
The Newspaper says he is in the five that they are looking at.

[BlackcatAlum]

He is in the running for the Superintendent's Job (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu.eptD1HJEAABSBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0YThoZXF sBHNlYwNvdi10b3AEY29sbwNlBHZ0aWQDRjY1NF83MgRwb3MDM Q--/SIG=1h53v4m0g/EXP=1195312681/**http%3a//rc10.overture.com/d/sr/%3fxargs=15KPjg15hSk5amwr2idLTKT%252DeBx14axca58ch qDJN8HdRIoS5gUOd9aKbIksVxW7064wnZzfWX%252D6QSKvT9k fyIFQ6MQVafSL3y2ozCz4w8hpmXBtxFj7QrwuztOrd%252DIj8 LZmyxb4P%255Fk%252DzKIMCKZz1G%255F44Bzhmb%252D%255 FBsyMqglLYTEqemhxA8o0qFc5Zw5dYqg87DK%252DkMPLUgftD rhXfFfZwQ%252D%252DxZkeyiOikSIVmmkhka9VeHIC55v6zJf pEKv6OgzoLbLKOo3oAALxHNoKE9rAjHnGHp%252DbYmOynd1%2 55FAd0htXD%255FKjPirBeDsfi76F06CYP401szC5GJvUXiCvP h0UKkN0VrW4eFjWMzBk7x%252DRIs8GQvft9yK4BLWOG3Flb1I H%252DYK5Oec20w%252E%252E%26yargs=www.hotjobs.com)
The Newspaper says he is in the five that they are looking at.

Oh... Thanks.

[DevilDawg]

They can have him.

[DevilDawg]

Great points... one and all... just need to find out if Goldsmith wants out.... is he willing to hang on til a new administration can be placed. It's kinda raw to get on here and begin discussing successors when the coach hasn't left... I wouldn't like it. I don't believe he realized there would be as little support from within this time around... there certainly was plenty of supporters on hand the last time he was there. Maybe you should begin a thread in gen dis about getting a new super... if that's the problem.
Goldsmith has announced that he is leaving . Don't know all of the issues regarding the super but IMO he needs to go simply because of the academics going south as well. As far as Billy leaving, it is not carring tales and trashing him by relaying known information.

[Lisa Douglas]

That's fine. I just hate for someone to be "discussed" when they have not even announced their intent to leave.

[catwoman]

Cecil???No way,,He is one that has led the downfall.No sympathy for him.Fire him.Keep Sammons and Preece but let Preece work the middle school program and for goodness sakes clear the sidelines of that bunch of unofficial coach wannabee.s.

[catwoman]

Thats the world of sports!!

[Batpuff]

Cecil???No way,,He is one that has led the downfall.No sympathy for him.Fire him.Keep Sammons and Preece but let Preece work the middle school program and for goodness sakes clear the sidelines of that bunch of unofficial coach wannabee.s.

Oh yea like you know so much about the side line coach wanna be's if it wasnt for a bunch of them there is a lot of stuff that wouldnt get done. Stuff that no one else would do. And no it was not Coach Cecils fault for the down fall so keep his name out if.

[catwoman]

Thats your tale Im sitting on mine.Wannabe,s need to go.Why?Look at the record the last five years.Worst in the area!!!Our boys need real coaches who know the game not a bunch of clowns.Most in the county agree with that,

[Batpuff]

Thats your tale Im sitting on mine.Wannabe,s need to go.Why?Look at the record the last five years.Worst in the area!!!

Like they would you, and if i am not mistaken your using someone elses user name.

[Batpuff]

Thats your tale Im sitting on mine.Wannabe,s need to go.Why?Look at the record the last five years.Worst in the area!!!Our boys need real coaches who know the game not a bunch of clowns.Most in the county agree with that,
Oh ok I see you tell them to there face there clowns you know the ones that take care of the kids when theuy need equipment fixed during the game or water during the game and making sure the balls are dry during the rain and whatever, because i believe you would get an ear full.

[catwoman]

Get in there faces.Are you kidding.To want to be violent towards a coach is something that is terrible and would run from anything like that.Our team has shown signs of wanting to take action in a game that gets you in trouble.Red neckin is terrible.We need to make coaching changes.Nothing personel.Apologise for the use of the word clowns.Dont really think that, we should have Our SCHOOL BOARD hire some qualifed coaches.To get physical with a coach or anyone is something Im sure you dont mean either.That is something that should never happen.Im not talking about the guy who takes care of the balls during games.That guy has done that for years.He stays!!

[catwoman]

Really without finger pointing, it would be great if what people we have in place could turn this program around.In any sport at any school, coaches get replaced, alot of the time when things turn sour.You bring a new coach in to try to light a spark and begin to get the players to give it their all.I wish it didnt get personel.I would hate to let someone go.especially those with families.With that on my mind , I feel ashamed,Im sorry for ever saying anything that would ever have anything to do with someone losing their job.A man trying to provide for his family with his body, heart and soul is honorable.Im deeply sorry.I just hope the people who do the hiring dont rely on information from a message board.Better to see the light late than never.

[dawgmom]

Oh ok I see you tell them to there face there clowns you know the ones that take care of the kids when theuy need equipment fixed during the game or water during the game and making sure the balls are dry during the rain and whatever, because i believe you would get an ear full.


Seems to me that taking care of equipment or water or whatever has NOTHING to do with coaching the game. Bottom line is, IF Billy leaves, the administration needs to get a QUALIFIED coach to take his spot. After speaking with a board member, I was told that any hiring will come from our so-called site based council. You have to go to them. Instead of getting on a message board and mouthing off, find a member of the council and put your two cents in. Arguing back and forth on here does nothing to help our program.And Batpuff, you have to admit, EVERYONE thought our sideline was a joke. There was more people in coaching shirts than players. Our administration has got to get behind the program and let whoever is the head coach get some PAID personnell and not the wanna-be's we had this year.

[catwoman]

thats funny right there,I dont care who you are.Have fun with it,,,bring back chuke!!!Nows thats funny right there.

[jchsrulz]

You don't think he would make them a dandy coach? I think he's done an amazing job with jc... lc could certainly use him!

The laughing was for him leaving JC for LC.:) 5-6 years ago I would have told him to go to Lc instead of JC. But LC seems to be having a few problems in the school system right now, and (the main reason) Matney has it too good where he is at. Great junior class and excellent talent coming up from the middle and grade school levels will keep him here for a while. A really good job would have to come open for him to leave the close-knit family he has here.

[Kayaker]

Oh ok I see you tell them to there face there clowns you know the ones that take care of the kids when theuy need equipment fixed during the game or water during the game and making sure the balls are dry during the rain and whatever, because i believe you would get an ear full.

Its never a good thing when you have to try to defend your coaches by using "fixing equipment" and "getting them water" to justify the quality of a coaching staff. Plain and simple, LC needs to clean house and start over fresh. Nothing or no one on that sideline can revamp this program. They have been given 5 years to do so with each year getting worse, time to pull the plug.

[Batpuff]

Its never a good thing when you have to try to defend your coaches by using "fixing equipment" and "getting them water" to justify the quality of a coaching staff. Plain and simple, LC needs to clean house and start over fresh. Nothing or no one on that sideline can revamp this program. They have been given 5 years to do so with each year getting worse, time to pull the plug.

To start with you need to know what your talking about before you go and make a statement, there are guys on the sidelines that have been there through several coaching staffs that vol. there time to help these young men out.

[Kayaker]

To start with you need to know what your talking about before you go and make a statement, there are guys on the sidelines that have been there through several coaching staffs that vol. there time to help these young men out.

Well okay then, I dont know but since you do, why dont you give us your theory on what LC needs to do to get its football program back on track? And going through several coaching staffs isnt always a good thing.

[Dawg@heart]

Seems to me that taking care of equipment or water or whatever has NOTHING to do with coaching the game. Bottom line is, IF Billy leaves, the administration needs to get a QUALIFIED coach to take his spot. After speaking with a board member, I was told that any hiring will come from our so-called site based council. You have to go to them. Instead of getting on a message board and mouthing off, find a member of the council and put your two cents in. Arguing back and forth on here does nothing to help our program.And Batpuff, you have to admit, EVERYONE thought our sideline was a joke. There was more people in coaching shirts than players. Our administration has got to get behind the program and let whoever is the head coach get some PAID personnell and not the wanna-be's we had this year.


Back in "my day", your water boys and equipment "mgrs" were high school kids, either injured players or kids that didn't play football. I know for a fact we didn't have more "helpers" than we did players!!! Some of the guys that are on the sidelines should stay, I won't mention names, you know who you are, BUT there are as many that need to be cleared out. Way to much mixed info thrown at the boys-everyone yelling out something different. I think Dawg Mom has a point, Luke Salmons would be an excellent choice. New enough to make changes and not be afraid of the repercussions that change brings.

[Batpuff]

Back in "my day", your water boys and equipment "mgrs" were high school kids, either injured players or kids that didn't play football. I know for a fact we didn't have more "helpers" than we did players!!! Some of the guys that are on the sidelines should stay, I won't mention names, you know who you are, BUT there are as many that need to be cleared out. Way to much mixed info thrown at the boys-everyone yelling out something different. I think Dawg Mom has a point, Luke Salmons would be an excellent choice. New enough to make changes and not be afraid of the repercussions that change brings.

Oh I agree with you 100%

[Dawg@heart]

Oh I agree with you 100%

and i'm not referring to you!!!!!

[Batpuff]

and i'm not referring to you!!!!!


Oh I know what your talking about. We get a few that think they know and blow everything up.

[dawgmom]

Back in "my day", your water boys and equipment "mgrs" were high school kids, either injured players or kids that didn't play football. I know for a fact we didn't have more "helpers" than we did players!!! Some of the guys that are on the sidelines should stay, I won't mention names, you know who you are, BUT there are as many that need to be cleared out. Way to much mixed info thrown at the boys-everyone yelling out something different. I think Dawg Mom has a point, Luke Salmons would be an excellent choice. New enough to make changes and not be afraid of the repercussions that change brings.


Saying there were more helpers than players was a little exaggerated but you get my drift. I agree with what you said. Good post

[catwoman]

I never meant anything against the guy who takes care of the balls.I retire from this site.Way too serious on this site!!

[dbcooper]

Whoever the new LC coach is i hope he has the patience and thick skin to put up with some idiotic fans.
Never seen a place where expectations were so out of whack and some fans (parents) are so unrealistic.
Good luck whoever the new coach is.

[Pink Flamingo]

I just think that with the talent Goldsmith has had since he has taken over, he shouldve went farther than he has.

[Dawg@heart]

Whoever the new LC coach is i hope he has the patience and thick skin to put up with some idiotic fans.
Never seen a place where expectations were so out of whack and some fans (parents) are so unrealistic.
Good luck whoever the new coach is.

Think this statement might be just a bit harsh???

[dbcooper]

Think this statement might be just a bit harsh???

Not really.

Been around there enough to know that the talent that was there in the 90s is not there now and there are more than a handful of fans who think that GOldsmith shoulda won seven or eight games per year.
Not with that schedule. It would probably even be fair to say the LC teams of the 90s would not have posted the numbers they did if they were playing that caliber of schedule year after year.
LC needs to get back to playing a winnable schedule and parents need to parent and let coaches coach.

[EkyLb]

Thats your tale Im sitting on mine.Wannabe,s need to go.Why?Look at the record the last five years.Worst in the area!!!Our boys need real coaches who know the game not a bunch of clowns.Most in the county agree with that,

Maybe the downfall of LC football the last few years is people involved in the program like yourself. Who want to put blame where it doesn't belong, as someone who played under Cecil @ Russell, I can assure you he is no clown. I would love to see him back @ Russell now. I doubt anyone would get rid of him, it would be a terrible mistake. I haven't really kept up with LC football, just saw them play when they played Russell this yr. Just seems to me, that maybe they haven't had the talent they used to have, down years can happen. You don't have your Parker's or West's around, things can get tough. So you need to quit putting blame where it doesn't belong, or you'll just continue to tear down your school's program.

[Dawg@heart]

Not really.

Been around there enough to know that the talent that was there in the 90s is not there now and there are more than a handful of fans who think that GOldsmith shoulda won seven or eight games per year.
Not with that schedule. It would probably even be fair to say the LC teams of the 90s would not have posted the numbers they did if they were playing that caliber of schedule year after year.
LC needs to get back to playing a winnable schedule and parents need to parent and let coaches coach.

Maybe not the SAME talent, but there is talent there. It happens over time-things and kids change and not everyone can be perfect every year. I think alot of the pressure to be the team of the 90's was a load of crap. The 90's are over. Its a whole new generation of players. LC certainly doesn't hold the monopoly on idiotic fans. I am a parent and I never expected a perfect season, from Billy or anyone else. EVERY school has parents that won't leave the coaching staff alone but not all of us are in that group. We never spoke to our staff other than social hello's in passing. This schedule would have been he** on alot of teams and I feel sure other places fans or parents would have thought their team coulda, shoulda done better. Thats just human nature-
Regardless of the all knowing football fans that every school has, Louisa was behind this team, good or bad, better or worse-that doesn't make us idiots. That makes us loyal.

[DAWG lc]

Cecil???No way,,He is one that has led the downfall.No sympathy for him.Fire him.Keep Sammons and Preece but let Preece work the middle school program and for goodness sakes clear the sidelines of that bunch of unofficial coach wannabee.s.


No, blake preece needs to go to. Him coming here was the worst thing that happen at lawrence county.

[dbcooper]

Maybe not the SAME talent, but there is talent there. It happens over time-things and kids change and not everyone can be perfect every year. I think alot of the pressure to be the team of the 90's was a load of crap. The 90's are over. Its a whole new generation of players. LC certainly doesn't hold the monopoly on idiotic fans. I am a parent and I never expected a perfect season, from Billy or anyone else. EVERY school has parents that won't leave the coaching staff alone but not all of us are in that group. We never spoke to our staff other than social hello's in passing. This schedule would have been he** on alot of teams and I feel sure other places fans or parents would have thought their team coulda, shoulda done better. Thats just human nature-
Regardless of the all knowing football fans that every school has, Louisa was behind this team, good or bad, better or worse-that doesn't make us idiots. That makes us loyal.

You're right that on the whole most fans were behind the kids and coaches from what I saw on the outside. You're also right that many people conduct themselves appropriately. If that's you, then consider yourself excused from my description. But the description was an accurate one when it comes to a large number of fans who think they know football when they couldn't tell you whether a 4-3 is a defense or a baseball score.
I respect your loyalty and that of others in Louisa, but judging from comments I heard the times I saw them play and those on message boards, these fans wouldn't cut Vince Lombardi a break.
Plus, having some talent doesn't include having Shorts, Parkers, Wrights, Wests, Meadowses, Michaels,Cooks, McKenzies, Abshires, and so on.
A lot of talent concentrated in a short period of time and it just isn't there right now. The freshman QB can be a good one, but things look pretty thin aside from him.

[dbcooper]

No, blake preece needs to go to. Him coming here was the worst thing that happen at lawrence county.

See what I mean DAWG lc?

[Big Dawg]

No, blake preece needs to go to. Him coming here was the worst thing that happen at lawrence county.

I gotta disagree on that one-that's perfect example of folks in LC being afraid of change. the infamous belly of the 90's doesn't always work against the caliber of teams on the schedule. It has to be mixed up. I don't know much about Blake nor did I always agree with every call he made, but to come into the fire he came into for free??? Not a chance-

[Big Dawg]

You're right that on the whole most fans were behind the kids and coaches from what I saw on the outside. You're also right that many people conduct themselves appropriately. If that's you, then consider yourself excused from my description. But the description was an accurate one when it comes to a large number of fans who think they know football when they couldn't tell you whether a 4-3 is a defense or a baseball score.
I respect your loyalty and that of others in Louisa, but judging from comments I heard the times I saw them play and those on message boards, these fans wouldn't cut Vince Lombardi a break.
Plus, having some talent doesn't include having Shorts, Parkers, Wrights, Wests, Meadowses, Michaels,Cooks, McKenzies, Abshires, and so on.
A lot of talent concentrated in a short period of time and it just isn't there right now. The freshman QB can be a good one, but things look pretty thin aside from him.

Shepherd isn't the only talented kid there is left-Fitzpatrick returns, along with Ben Preston, Jordan Miller, Shane Pack. Lucas Frazier and there are other underclassmen that I can't name off the top of my head.....

[RedRaiderNation]

This thread is just like the last week of practice at LC before the Boyd Co. game when players and coaches were arguing over whether to run the Belly or Spread offense.

LC needs a new coaching staff. As for the volunteers that were on the sideline this year you need to be at the feeder level teaching the younger Bulldog generation players the same offense and defense of the High School. I know 3rd graders can't run the belly but you can teach what holes to run to and how to run block, pass block. You can teach how to read gaps on defense. Use the same terminology such as: Will, Sam, Mike positions, rovers, sweeps, option, trap blocks.
Whether no one wants to admit or not, but LC will not be back on top overnight, it will take a totally effort from the feeder program up to the High School Varsity. LC can be very competitive next year and could compete for the district title being in a district that is so evenly matched.

I really wish I was back in Louisa to help out the program at the feeder level. GO DAWGS!!

[lawrencefan]

I believe we can turn things around quickly. We have a very good junior class coming in,
Boone Goldsmith, Ben Preston, William Montgomery, Shane Pack, Lucas Frazier, Lucas Peck, Josh Mills, Chris Kazee, Jordan Miller et al. Our sophmore class is led by Chandler Shepherd. These guys all saw some quality snaps. Our senior class has some good athletes like Mark Fitchpatrick, Drew Webb. We have the opportunity to excell Now given the right circumstances.

[dawg4runner]

I believe we can turn things around quickly. We have a very good junior class coming in,
Boone Goldsmith, Ben Preston, William Montgomery, Shane Pack, Lucas Frazier, Lucas Peck, Josh Mills, Chris Kazee, Jordan Miller et al. Our sophmore class is led by Chandler Shepherd. These guys all saw some quality snaps. Our senior class has some good athletes like Mark Fitchpatrick, Drew Webb. We have the opportunity to excell Now given the right circumstances.



I beleave there is alot more than the 2 seniors that you mention that have good talent

[lawrencefan]

I beleave there is alot more than the 2 seniors that you mention that have good talent

I Agree. My apologies to the guys I missed. In all classes.

[copperhead]

SUCCESS? If that's success, their definition is certainly different from mine!

[DevilDawg]

The LC senior class had a lot of talent. Perhaps not like what we saw in the late 90s but a good coach will consistently have a fair team develop into a good or a great team. Look at Russell, the Belfreys, Brethetts, etc. Tradition does not graduate. Good coachs will take advantage of what they have. Yes, we played a whopper of a schedule but we have to stop making excuses for the coaches. This is not personal, just business. Here in Lawrence Co we consider football, business. Need a clean sweep except for a few, but the head coach needs to be a new face.
The community loves their football team. They don't have to be perfect, but we need to get back to smashmouth football. :Thumbs: We LOVE our Dawgs!

[Mr. Sandwich]

I don't understand how everyone can say LC had such a difficult schedule. Please fill me in.

[Dawg Family]

I don't understand how everyone can say LC had such a difficult schedule. Please fill me in.
It might be because six of their non district games was agiants teams ranked in the top five of their class most of the season if not all of the season .And the only other non district game was agiants an Ohio team that was 7-3 on the regular season . If you look at LC schdule this year and can find a team with a tougher one in eastern ky I would love to see it .
BTW two of the teams they played are still un-beaten and will be playing each other this Friday. Might I say two very good teams .

[BBB]

If you really want to know what some of the problems are in Lawrence Co. all you have to do is read some of these post. Their isnt a good coach in their right mind that would want this job with the conditions that everyone said this program is in. Your lucky to have Coach Goldsmith and some of the assistant that you have.

[bulldog42]

No, blake preece needs to go to. Him coming here was the worst thing that happen at lawrence county.
Since you throw a blanket statement like that out and you have won't tell me who you are when I PM you I'll defend myself from somebody sitting behind a computer screen hiding out!
The perception from outsiders reading this thread should be really interesting. You have people that have never played football, parents, out of starters all throwing out there what is going on but some of it just isn't true. I've held off on posting in this thread but the more I thought about it the more I think it would be good to give a reality check. I played on the teams in the early 90's that laid the foundation for this program under Coach Goldsmith and Chuke came in my Sr year. I've had broken bones, stitches, surgery etc all for laying my body on the line for this program. The days of building this program was like no other feeling I've ever had! The pride in our town was 2nd to none. We went 11-0 my Soph year, first final 4 my Junior year (lost by 3 too Mayfield) and undefeated in District my Sr year only to lost to a great Pburg team after we went 11-2. I was fortunate (and forever grateful) that Chuke gave me a summer job and got me into the door of coaching. I gave up a couple of summers and drove back on Friday nights to help out. I coached WR's and was blessed to have guys like Gerad Parker, Spencer Harriss and Matt Peterson. Playing and coaching I was a part of 2 final fours and most of the best wins ever at Lawrence County (Russell double OT, Mason Co 3yd line to win Region, Raceland game that started the snowball effect, Breathitts win streak coming to an end, Flemming hook+lateral play etc).
There was always a bad taste left for me because we were so close to playing on the carpet but just kept coming up short. I felt like the biggest reasons were 2 fold. One we never had a kicking game and two we couldn't throw the ball when teams packed it in on us. I made it my goal to go out and learn as much as I could about the passing game. I got a head coaching job at a middle school in Oldham County right out of college and we went to the Mid Bluegrass Championship my first year there (3 back power team). We had success the whole time I was there then I moved up to the high school to start a new program. On the side I made it a mission to learn as much as I could especially in the passing game. I've flown to Dallas, Minn, driven to Chicago, Notre Dame etc to keep learning so one day I could come back to Louisa and try to get us over the top. While I was in Louisville my childhood buddy Morgan Cyrus and I decided that we wanted to do everything we could to try to help the youth at LC have a chance to live the experiences we had. We got almost 20 old players back that played at LC in the past and started a youth camp. Every single guy I called jumped on the chance to come back and help and they all did it for free. Most are working, in school, have kids etc but they know what the program means to the young men in Lousia. We had close to 45 kids the first year and this past year the number was up over 80. The cost of the camp is cheap so we can get as many kids involved as possible and the money goes right back to the youth league to get them off to a solid start. They even started a cheerleading camp to go with it. While I was in Oldham Co I followed Coach Sphire for about 5 years (clinics, observing Lex Cath games etc). When Coach McPeek got the job at LC we tried like crazy to get back but couldn't find my wife a job. We ended up moving to Lexington after we had our little girl and I got an interview at Lex Cath. That year working with Coach Sphire, Coach Letton and that whole staff was out of this world. I had never been around so much organization, so many great coaches that had the freedom to be able to focus on their specific positions everyday etc. The run we had there was a dream and it was even more special that Justin Burke's mom was a Louisa girl:) Finally I got the experience of winning a state champion sip but there was still a part of me that felt like the void would never be totally filled until we did it at home. When we found out we were having our little boy I decided to switch jobs and with the help of God the center of my territory was LOUISA! While I was in training I got a call to see if I wanted to take over the offensive coordinator's job at LC. A DREAM COME TRUE!!!
I knew a lot of folks in Louisa didn't know what the forward pass was and I knew there was going to be a lot of heat with position battles. I didn't get moved down until June so that made things pretty tough but I knew we had a great group of kids. We had an awesome summer and felt like we were going to get things rolling this year. I think there were multiple reasons we didn't achieve success this year. Some I will share and some I will keep to myself. In short I think the blame can be put in every single direction. Our schedule for a team that is rebuilding is crazy and the fans are going to have to realize that whoever gets the job faces the same schedule next year minus Coal Grove. The coaches have taken incredible shots this year and some of it is flat out sad. I'm an honest person and I can say that after reflecting back on the season there are several things I would have done different and it was a learning experience. I think there were several things that the coaches have to take blame for and learn from. The biggest thing I think is that we have GOT to start getting kids out of the hallways and playing. We were lucky to get kids like Cody, Timmy and Brad out but it's hard not to think what it would have been like if those guys would have been around for off season workouts and passing league stuff. When you start naming groups you run the risk of hurting feelings but in every group there are those that deserve some blame and those that have been outstanding.
I think coaches, players, parents, fans all need to take a look at what they can do better. I gave my spill on the coaches now I'll go to some of the parents. The majority have bent over back wards and supported our program to the max. Unfortunately there have been a couple that crossed the line this year. Coach Goldsmith BUILT the LC program. He loves his players and everything associated with the program. I can't tell you the number of times he has driven a kid 45minutes out after practice because that's the only way that kid is going to be able to play. Week after week he took kids to places like Cumberland and Campbellsville on recruiting visits even though we got waxed the night before. Then he has a couple of parents that dog cuss him and his family until a fly wouldn't land on him. Inexcusable! There are multiple examples but I'll spare it.
Like I said when you are naming groups you have those that deserve to be called out and those that are on the opposite end of the spectrum and should be praised. The thing that made me the most proud of our kids is that they has adversity slung in their face every single week. Playing top 5 teams in the state week in week out, 10+ injuries to guys that started or played a lot, 6 Sophs and a Freshman on the field at times etc. 99% of those guys never one time pointed the finger of blame at each other. They learned what it was like to get your character tested in tough times and how to fight through them to become stronger young men. For that I think they will always have something to reflect back on in the though times down the road. I think whoever comes in has got to get the kids to sell out that this is the ultimate team game. We had a lot of times that kids would take off a play and that killed us. We had times that kids that didn't get the ball wouldn't block. Film doesn't lie and honestly I think those kids would tell you. Little things add up and we've got to get that attitude. To me attitude is everything. I've been a part of a team like this one, been a part of a new high school program, won a state championship. The difference between those teams is their attitude. You don't go into games hoping to win, you go in expecting to win and that is the attitude we have to embrace!

I'll finish the rest on my next post!

[bulldog42]

The last group I'm going to cover is the fans. I've laid it on the line and thrown myself out there because I LOVE our KIDS, our PROGRAM, and our COMMUNITY! With that being said it wasn't even 4 games into the season that some drunk caught me coming off the field ready to fight because I hadn't played so and so. I asked him if he knew when so and so got hurt and he said "I didn't know he was hurt". Being a fan means you can be an armchair QB. I do it when I watch UK etc. The bottom line is unless you have watched film, been in workouts, been at practice, know who is hurt, know who knows what's going on etc then you don't have a clue why things are being done the way they are done. This is were a lot of LC fans are going to have to grow up. The officials had to stop a game at home this year because our fans were cussing one of our players so bad! INEXCUSABLE!!!! It's real simple..... you are with us or you aren't!!!!! Don't say you are with us then go post on a message board should the coach be gone the night before we play the #2 team in the state (that happened this year). I will never forget playing at Russell and winning in double overtime. Our fans came out in the mud tackling us because they were so excited. I'll never forget Dwayne stuck on the goal post as it was being broken down after the Breathitt game. I'll never forget eating Thanksgiving dinner, going through walk through then getting on the bus to go to Mayfield. There were cars parked on both sides of the road with fans video taping and little kids on their shoulders for miles all the way to the Power Plant. I'll never forget shaving coaches head on the stage after winning the potato festival game and singing "Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourselves" to our crowd that came down to watch. We have some amazing fans but I encourage you that if some are out of line to let them know. Those great times all came while we were winning but your true character comes out when you are losing. You find out what you are made of and who you are. The great thing is that when you stick together (which is what we have to do and my whole point) and you come out that other side then it makes getting back on top that much more special!
A few things on the new coaching job. 1: There are supposed to be job cuts (we all know what kind of shape our schools have been in) so that is going to be really tough on this coach. It's going to be hard to bring much more of a staff in and supposedly they are cutting paid assistants jobs down some.
2. Whatever system the new coach runs needs to be embraced by the fans. The belly is an awesome series but not the only series. We ran it the 3 years before I got here and averaged about 3 wins a season. It isn't the cure all. If this coach runs it then GREAT! Support it! If it's the spread then GREAT there are multiple teams in the state championship again this year that runs the spread. If it's the 3 back power then great! We've been to the final four before running the 3 back power. My philosophy was that we never made it to state with a bunch of D1 kids running the belly alone without a kicking game so I wanted to be more versatile especially since we are playing a lot better competition now. Some don't agree and that's totally fine but support whatever system is run. You have to realize it takes some time to develop a new system (last year we didn't even have an off season, had 1 int all year and didn't kick a single FG). We also never sold out to what we were doing which can't happen. It's been posted on here that we ran the belly in the 80's but that's not true. Chuke brought it in 92 my SR year. It's also said that our youth run it but that is false. Almost all youth programs are some sort of power (Russell WingT etc). Nobody in the youth league runs the belly read. Our 8th grade last year ran the spread and only lost 1 game. If I'm around at all I really hope to sit down and work with the youth league guys (we have some good one's) on developing a plan to work on fundamentals across the board every practice so we have a checks and balances. I also have witnessed my nephew go through 3 different systems in 3 years in the youth league including the shotgun in the 3rd grade. It runs kids off so I hope we can get a flexible system in place for the kids so at least the verbiage is the same every year instead of learning something new every year.
3. Fans are going to have to realize that whoever gets the job has a top 5-10 toughest schedule in the state facing him. The key will be too improve every week and hit our stride going into the playoffs IMO.
4. This years JR class only had around 6 or so kids in it. Some aren't making grades, some are getting put into alternative school etc. I am challenging those guys right now to take pride in yourself and what it stands for to wear LC on your shirt. Be leaders and role models instead of choosing the wrong path. You have the choice sitting right in front of you to take over and be leaders this off season. I don't care what your past is the choice is right there! Accept the challenge! Along with that I think there has to be a push to get as many kids involved in the program as possible.
I've said a lot I wanted and probably some I shouldn't have said but in the end there is nobody that cares anymore about our program than I do. I was kind of surprised what I moved away from and back home into. We have got to stop this division in our schools, our sports programs etc and get this place back to being one of the most special places I've ever been. I honestly think the only way we can do it is by sticking together! I've watched my little sister get robbed of the high school experience I had and I don't want to see our kids here now do the same. The thing that kills me is all the different people that talk negative about our program but don't lift a finger for it. If all those folks with so much passion would join the QB club, help with the youth league etc then we would be a lot closer to having solutions instead of more problems. I said it before that your character comes out when times are tough but if you can battle through those times it makes the destination even more special. That's what makes football so great! It is so much like real life! The best wins I've ever had at LC were when the other team had the ball and just had to kneel on it. Instead we throw the kid out of bounds, block the punt an hit a 50 yd hook and lateral with 2 seconds left on the clock. Breaking a 42 game win streak. Winning in 2bl OT as 40 underdogs to a team that waxed us at home even though we didn't have our starting QB when we won. Every single one of those moments we had to battle through adversity, we had to stick together and lean on each other. We had to communicate, have a vision, believe in ourselves our coaches and our fans! This time is no different! We've got to stick together, have a vision, believe in ourselves, our kids, our coaches, our fans and our whole community!
Good luck to whoever the new coach is! You will have my support 100% in some form or fashion! It might be beside you, in the youth league, QB club or whatever but you will have my support! We've got some outstanding kids and I hope they stick together and believe!
Stick

[Blackflag]

Not to be negative because I agree with your post for the most part and I agree with some other posters that the Super. is a joke.

According to Massey, you played the 106th toughest schedule in the state, not Top 5

[bulldog42]

Not to be negative because I agree with your post for the most part and I agree with some other posters that the Super. is a joke.

According to Massey, you played the 106th toughest schedule in the state, not Top 5
If you take out the teams beating each other:
Belfry: Undefeated
Breathitt: Undefeated
Pburg: Lost too Beechwood
Sheldon Clark: Undefeated
Coal Grove: 2 losses
LCC: 1 loss
Russell: 1 loss I think
District was bad record wise but the talent was there. Greenup lost by 1 in the Regional championship, Boyd was talented and Rowan had the 2nd best defensive front we played all year.

[HazzBeen]

LC played the toughest schedule in the mountains period!
They will get things rolling again in Louisa. Good luck to you guys!

[Batpuff]

Bulldog42 those were two of the most true post I have read in a long time.

[valleyrules101]

I heard the other day that the old coach is coming back Chuke Williams

[Dawg@heart]

I heard the other day that the old coach is coming back Chuke Williams

Well lets all hope not.....

[lawrencefan]

Does anyone know who has applied for the job? Has there been a search comittee formed? If so, who is it made up of?

[DEVILOLOGIST]

I would do it!!!!!!!!!

[red_devils_rule]

The last group I'm going to cover is the fans. I've laid it on the line and thrown myself out there because I LOVE our KIDS, our PROGRAM, and our COMMUNITY! With that being said it wasn't even 4 games into the season that some drunk caught me coming off the field ready to fight because I hadn't played so and so. I asked him if he knew when so and so got hurt and he said "I didn't know he was hurt". Being a fan means you can be an armchair QB. I do it when I watch UK etc. The bottom line is unless you have watched film, been in workouts, been at practice, know who is hurt, know who knows what's going on etc then you don't have a clue why things are being done the way they are done. This is were a lot of LC fans are going to have to grow up. The officials had to stop a game at home this year because our fans were cussing one of our players so bad! INEXCUSABLE!!!! It's real simple..... you are with us or you aren't!!!!! Don't say you are with us then go post on a message board should the coach be gone the night before we play the #2 team in the state (that happened this year). I will never forget playing at Russell and winning in double overtime. Our fans came out in the mud tackling us because they were so excited. I'll never forget Dwayne stuck on the goal post as it was being broken down after the Breathitt game. I'll never forget eating Thanksgiving dinner, going through walk through then getting on the bus to go to Mayfield. There were cars parked on both sides of the road with fans video taping and little kids on their shoulders for miles all the way to the Power Plant. I'll never forget shaving coaches head on the stage after winning the potato festival game and singing "Don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourselves" to our crowd that came down to watch. We have some amazing fans but I encourage you that if some are out of line to let them know. Those great times all came while we were winning but your true character comes out when you are losing. You find out what you are made of and who you are. The great thing is that when you stick together (which is what we have to do and my whole point) and you come out that other side then it makes getting back on top that much more special!
A few things on the new coaching job. 1: There are supposed to be job cuts (we all know what kind of shape our schools have been in) so that is going to be really tough on this coach. It's going to be hard to bring much more of a staff in and supposedly they are cutting paid assistants jobs down some.
2. Whatever system the new coach runs needs to be embraced by the fans. The belly is an awesome series but not the only series. We ran it the 3 years before I got here and averaged about 3 wins a season. It isn't the cure all. If this coach runs it then GREAT! Support it! If it's the spread then GREAT there are multiple teams in the state championship again this year that runs the spread. If it's the 3 back power then great! We've been to the final four before running the 3 back power. My philosophy was that we never made it to state with a bunch of D1 kids running the belly alone without a kicking game so I wanted to be more versatile especially since we are playing a lot better competition now. Some don't agree and that's totally fine but support whatever system is run. You have to realize it takes some time to develop a new system (last year we didn't even have an off season, had 1 int all year and didn't kick a single FG). We also never sold out to what we were doing which can't happen. It's been posted on here that we ran the belly in the 80's but that's not true. Chuke brought it in 92 my SR year. It's also said that our youth run it but that is false. Almost all youth programs are some sort of power (Russell WingT etc). Nobody in the youth league runs the belly read. Our 8th grade last year ran the spread and only lost 1 game. If I'm around at all I really hope to sit down and work with the youth league guys (we have some good one's) on developing a plan to work on fundamentals across the board every practice so we have a checks and balances. I also have witnessed my nephew go through 3 different systems in 3 years in the youth league including the shotgun in the 3rd grade. It runs kids off so I hope we can get a flexible system in place for the kids so at least the verbiage is the same every year instead of learning something new every year.
3. Fans are going to have to realize that whoever gets the job has a top 5-10 toughest schedule in the state facing him. The key will be too improve every week and hit our stride going into the playoffs IMO.
4. This years JR class only had around 6 or so kids in it. Some aren't making grades, some are getting put into alternative school etc. I am challenging those guys right now to take pride in yourself and what it stands for to wear LC on your shirt. Be leaders and role models instead of choosing the wrong path. You have the choice sitting right in front of you to take over and be leaders this off season. I don't care what your past is the choice is right there! Accept the challenge! Along with that I think there has to be a push to get as many kids involved in the program as possible.
I've said a lot I wanted and probably some I shouldn't have said but in the end there is nobody that cares anymore about our program than I do. I was kind of surprised what I moved away from and back home into. We have got to stop this division in our schools, our sports programs etc and get this place back to being one of the most special places I've ever been. I honestly think the only way we can do it is by sticking together! I've watched my little sister get robbed of the high school experience I had and I don't want to see our kids here now do the same. The thing that kills me is all the different people that talk negative about our program but don't lift a finger for it. If all those folks with so much passion would join the QB club, help with the youth league etc then we would be a lot closer to having solutions instead of more problems. I said it before that your character comes out when times are tough but if you can battle through those times it makes the destination even more special. That's what makes football so great! It is so much like real life! The best wins I've ever had at LC were when the other team had the ball and just had to kneel on it. Instead we throw the kid out of bounds, block the punt an hit a 50 yd hook and lateral with 2 seconds left on the clock. Breaking a 42 game win streak. Winning in 2bl OT as 40 underdogs to a team that waxed us at home even though we didn't have our starting QB when we won. Every single one of those moments we had to battle through adversity, we had to stick together and lean on each other. We had to communicate, have a vision, believe in ourselves our coaches and our fans! This time is no different! We've got to stick together, have a vision, believe in ourselves, our kids, our coaches, our fans and our whole community!
Good luck to whoever the new coach is! You will have my support 100% in some form or fashion! It might be beside you, in the youth league, QB club or whatever but you will have my support! We've got some outstanding kids and I hope they stick together and believe!
Stick

Great post there coach. It will happen if everyone believes it will.

[Mr. Sandwich]

What coach, do you think, could bring this program back to life? I am on the Chuke bandwagon, but I'm sure there are more coaches in the area that could do just as good a job. LC doesn't need a coach that is going to be "buddies" with the players. They need a coach who is going to encourage them and train them to be good, disciplined football players. One that wont let the kids lay down if things arent going their way. One that won't threaten to quit or complain when things are down.

[bigE]

i really think when your trying to rebuild a program you must get a coach with no political ties and completely clean house in the program and start fresh. In order to do that they would have to go outside the county because i would say if they hire within most of those assitant coaches will stay and they will be divided just like they have been in the past...just my opinion

[dawgmom]

What coach, do you think, could bring this program back to life? I am on the Chuke bandwagon, but I'm sure there are more coaches in the area that could do just as good a job. LC doesn't need a coach that is going to be "buddies" with the players. They need a coach who is going to encourage them and train them to be good, disciplined football players. One that wont let the kids lay down if things arent going their way. One that won't threaten to quit or complain when things are down.


Chuke had a successful time here at LC, but like Bulldog 42 said, the coach will need the support of EVERYONE involved in the program from the board office, the principle's office, the players, fans, and parents. I just don't think that chuke would have that here anymore. He burned too many bridges.

[Mr. Sandwich]

I believe many of Chuke's bridges were burned for him. A lot of people in the community wrote him off for leaving the program on a down note. (5-6 with a loss to Rockcastle in the first round of the playoffs.) Before that, he almost brought the town a championship on 3 different occasions.

[Capt. DH]

I believe many of Chuke's bridges were burned for him. A lot of people in the community wrote him off for leaving the program on a down note. (5-6 with a loss to Rockcastle in the first round of the playoffs.) Before that, he almost brought the town a championship on 3 different occasions.

How in the world could Chuke have left them in shambles if the year after he left they went 11-1? 11-1 isn't evidence for a lost program. I think you need to quit hating on Chuke and get your facts straight. He might be one of the only people that could straighten that program out. If the peolpe in Lawrence Co. have half of a brain then they will seriously consider Chuke for the job, that is if he would even wants to come back. You better open your wallets and give him what he may want. I mean can you really put a price on a winning program.

[Mr. Sandwich]

Yea man!..... I have been preaching this all season. Let's bring him back. I like his flip flops and jerry curl.

[dawgmom]

How in the world could Chuke have left them in shambles if the year after he left they went 11-1? 11-1 isn't evidence for a lost program. I think you need to quit hating on Chuke and get your facts straight. He might be one of the only people that could straighten that program out. If the peolpe in Lawrence Co. have half of a brain then they will seriously consider Chuke for the job, that is if he would even wants to come back. You better open your wallets and give him what he may want. I mean can you really put a price on a winning program.

Contrary to what you may think, I am not in the "hate Chuke" category. I think he is an offensive genious and think he did great things with this program. My point was that there are too many people in Louisa that do not like his style of coaching, or his sportmanship or whatever you want to call it. I'm just saying that the support isn't there for him. I do not however believe that that he is one of the only people that can bring this program back to the top.

[Capt. DH]

Contrary to what you may think, I am not in the "hate Chuke" category. I think he is an offensive genious and think he did great things with this program. My point was that there are too many people in Louisa that do not like his style of coaching, or his sportmanship or whatever you want to call it. I'm just saying that the support isn't there for him. I do not however believe that that he is one of the only people that can bring this program back to the top.

I wasn't even talking to you nor did I quote anything you said. Like it or not he is a proven winner at Lawrence and could probably do it again. He knows how to win whether you like his style or not. Kids either play all out for him or bag up and go home because they aren't tough enough. Chuke is not in the business of making friends. he is however in the business of winning ball games and teaching kids discipline. Maybe you meant discipline instead of style of coaching or sportsmanship. It will be hard to find someone outside of who is there now to want to come to Louisa and take over a 1-10 team.

[Mr.Kimball]

Chuke has not been a head coach anywhere for what 3 or 4 years? If he was interested in being a head coach somewhere you would have thought that someone, somewhere would have put him to work by now. Perhaps there is a reason that his services are not being required by anyone at this time. For some reason he wasn't even wanted back at his alma mater. Regardless of what some may think, this aint the NFL, this is high school. There is indeed more to someone being in the business to "JUST WIN FOOTBALL GAMES" at the high school level. Matter of fact, there is a lot more to it, and apparently there are a lot of folks at a lot of places that have taken that into consideration.

I think the biggest problem at Lawrence Co. is that there is just not the talent right now to do the things that they used to do back in the 90's. Everybody keeps talking about how much talent there is right now but I sure dont see any Wests, Parkers , Wrights, Ratliffs, Michaels, Hostetlers, Shorts, and so on and so on, or any one else that has that kind of potential on the roster. I just cant understand why it is so hard for Lawrence Co. fans to realize that it is sometimes the personel that makes a coach look either like a genius or sometimes even a goat. Remember it was Goldsmith that was the head coach when Lawrence began having those great teams , and it is Goldsmith that has been at the helm for what the last 3 years. Face it a bumper crop of talent comes around every so often at many schools and it does not mean that it is a particular coach that gave them talent. More than likely it was God that made those guys that were able to run all the 4.4's and whatever other exceptional natural talents that is required to play football at one particular school, all at the same time.

[lawrencefan]

I have to disagree with the last post. This team could have easily been 7-3 and could have made a run in the playoffs. With the exception of a couple of games they were right there at halftime. This team did not get better as the season progressed. Were they unmotivated? I don't know. I got the feeling that sometimes they did not leave everything on the field. Perhaps that is a symptom of losing. The expectations for achievement were not there. I agree that they don't have the talent they did in the 90s, but they had enough to be better than 1-10.

[Dawg@heart]

I agree Lawrencefan-my outside the loop opinion is that there was animosity amongst the players, therefore motivation was bottomed out. Sure they came out on fire but only for a quarter or two and then that was it. I didn't say they quit-don't want to get jumped for that-but I saw a team that just couldn't keep the fire buring for 4 quarters. They hurt themselves over and over with youth league fundamental mistakes. Then everytime those mistakes were made, it just seemed to me we went further and further down. Then the bickering amongst themselves began. This team IMO was missing a key element to success-that being the "attitude" of sportsmanship-all for one, standing beside one another as teammates, through good or bad without passing blame and ponting fingers.
The new coach has to be a guy that can inspire these kids to play as a team and treat one another with respect-once they do that, things may start to fall in place.

I wish whomever it is good luck-I'm sure its certainly not a very attractive thing to come in to.

[dawgmom]

I agree Lawrencefan-my outside the loop opinion is that there was animosity amongst the players, therefore motivation was bottomed out. Sure they came out on fire but only for a quarter or two and then that was it. I didn't say they quit-don't want to get jumped for that-but I saw a team that just couldn't keep the fire buring for 4 quarters. They hurt themselves over and over with youth league fundamental mistakes. Then everytime those mistakes were made, it just seemed to me we went further and further down. Then the bickering amongst themselves began. This team IMO was missing a key element to success-that being the "attitude" of sportsmanship-all for one, standing beside one another as teammates, through good or bad without passing blame and ponting fingers.
The new coach has to be a guy that can inspire these kids to play as a team and treat one another with respect-once they do that, things may start to fall in place.

I wish whomever it is good luck-I'm sure its certainly not a very attractive thing to come in to.


Can I get a huge AMEN for that!!! Great post!!

[Batpuff]

I wasn't even talking to you nor did I quote anything you said. Like it or not he is a proven winner at Lawrence and could probably do it again. He knows how to win whether you like his style or not. Kids either play all out for him or bag up and go home because they aren't tough enough. Chuke is not in the business of making friends. he is however in the business of winning ball games and teaching kids discipline. Maybe you meant discipline instead of style of coaching or sportsmanship. It will be hard to find someone outside of who is there now to want to come to Louisa and take over a 1-10 team.
Well there is a lot of coaches that would want to come in and restore the tradition at LC. I know for a fact that there have been several coaches up and down the river that HAS applied. Even if I told you a name you guys would just blow it off as to oh he would never leave here and go there. All I know is it will take a total effort to get the program back on its feet.

[lawrencefan]

This will be my last post on this thread. I pledge that whomever the powers that be in Lawrence County choose as a coach, to support him, his staff and the players 100%. I would also like to challenge all Lawrence Co. fans, to at least give the guy a chance. Let him make a mistake every now and then, everyone makes mistakes.

[RedSeal]

This is Just in Bobby Petrino will be the new coach at LC LOL j/k

[flamethrower]

[quote=Capt. DH;468144]How in the world could Chuke have left them in shambles if the year after he left they went 11-1? 11-1 isn't evidence for a lost program. I think you need to quit hating on Chuke and get your facts straight. He might be one of the only people that could straighten that program out. If the peolpe in Lawrence Co. have half of a brain then they will seriously consider Chuke for the job, that is if he would even wants to come back. You better open your wallets and give him what he may want. I mean can you really put a price on a winning program.[/quote well we could sell part of the school property,raise property taxes 300 or 400 % and charge 75.00 a ticket and maybe entice Bill Parcells to get back in the game. Think about it we could have the FIRST million dollar high school coach. Oh I can't hardly wait. We could open a casino below the bleachers and give the coach 20%. Why settle for somebody like Chuke when you are on an unlimited taxpayer budget. And besides Lawrence is not very good at the education part anyway so we should become the FIRST football prepatory school in Ky. The only classes taught will be only about football. That way all graduates will be able to get jobs in football.I like it!!!:flame:

[RedRaiderNation]

I agree Lawrencefan-my outside the loop opinion is that there was animosity amongst the players, therefore motivation was bottomed out. Sure they came out on fire but only for a quarter or two and then that was it. I didn't say they quit-don't want to get jumped for that-but I saw a team that just couldn't keep the fire buring for 4 quarters. They hurt themselves over and over with youth league fundamental mistakes. Then everytime those mistakes were made, it just seemed to me we went further and further down. Then the bickering amongst themselves began. This team IMO was missing a key element to success-that being the "attitude" of sportsmanship-all for one, standing beside one another as teammates, through good or bad without passing blame and ponting fingers.
The new coach has to be a guy that can inspire these kids to play as a team and treat one another with respect-once they do that, things may start to fall in place.

I wish whomever it is good luck-I'm sure its certainly not a very attractive thing to come in to.

Can I get a huge AMEN for that!!! Great post!!


AMEN

[OMG]

Luke Salmons would be a great hire.

[Mr. Sandwich]

You must be Luke Salmons then because that post is just crazy. How about a REAL coach?

[OMG]

You must be Luke Salmons then because that post is just crazy. How about a REAL coach?

are you serious? do you even know who he is...from what i know about the coaching staff at lc he is the only logical choice if your going to promote within.....played at marshall, started and protected byron leftwich and chad pennington, and also has been playing arena league for the past couple of seasons no one on that staff has even close to that kind of resume, so your the crazy one, who else better than him could they could within the program?

[Batpuff]

You must be Luke Salmons then because that post is just crazy. How about a REAL coach?

How bout a real coach. Now that is just funny. Luke would be a great hire. Took over the middle school job two years ago and won the conference title his first year and then almost won it again the next year with less talent. The guy knows his football. like mentioned above played at Marshall on some great teams. Been line coach with the varsity team the last two years as well. One of the most intense coaches you will meet.

Now you can say that about alot of coaches out there true. But the fact of the matter is they will hire within the school system due to cuts that are going to be made next year. But who ever gets I will support them like I do with who ever is there coaching.

[bigE]

How bout a real coach. Now that is just funny. Luke would be a great hire. Took over the middle school job two years ago and won the conference title his first year and then almost won it again the next year with less talent. The guy knows his football. like mentioned above played at Marshall on some great teams. Been line coach with the varsity team the last two years as well. One of the most intense coaches you will meet.

Now you can say that about alot of coaches out there true. But the fact of the matter is they will hire within the school system due to cuts that are going to be made next year. But who ever gets I will support them like I do with who ever is there coaching.


i didn't know about the cuts who is applying for it??

[Mr. Sandwich]

So I see he's played for Marshall and coached a middle school team. I guess he's going to win state with the high school team. And like I said, A REAL coach, not another football player.

[OMG]

So I see he's played for Marshall and coached a middle school team. I guess he's going to win state with the high school team. And like I said, A REAL coach, not another football player.

so your saying they shouldn't have played football to coach, that should be a prerequisit if you ask me

[Mr. Sandwich]

You read it wrong. I was saying just because he played for Marshall and coached a middle school team, it doesnt mean he is the best fit for the job. You're taking what I said completely out of context. Read more carefully next time.

[RedSeal]

Well if Eddie Dixon does not get the job it will be kind of slap in his face, and it would not be right to give the job to luke salmons that has only been here 2 years, I think that Dixon would be a good fit for the team he is a real motivator and the team needs to a fire lit in there rear and maybe the lawrence county program will be back on track