Results From Allen Central Panorama

[BlackcatAlum]

How did everyone do and what where some finals?

[MVP2]

I would like to know as well.

[BlackcatAlum]

I just heard Prestonsburg beat Coal Grove, OH by about 6 points... Don't know any stats though.

Only heard that Jordan Hall had around 20 points and Steven Patrick had a load of blocks.

[blackcat_mc]

Pburg didn't let Coal Grove score in the first quarter.. the end of the first period it was 14-0 blackcats. Pburg didnt have Nathaniel Stephens, Austin Gearheart, or Michael Burchett for their starters. All the football players are still playing football.

[bobby1]

KCC beat Pikeville 56-55. Kcc had Pikeville down thru the 3rd quarter by double figuire points and Pikeville made a come back in the 4th. Buttermilk hit the game winning shot with 15 seconds to go.
Big man comparison, both players score 10 points each.
IMO they played to a draw.
IMO if pikeville is the second best team in the 15th then KCC is the second best in the 14th.
Prestonsburg won
Allen central lost

[bobby1]

I just heard Prestonsburg beat Coal Grove, OH by about 6 points... Don't know any stats though.

Only heard that Jordan Hall had around 20 points and Steven Patrick had a load of blocks.
I watched the game Patrick played a great game. Hall toke alot of shots but he had around 20.

[BlackcatAlum]

KCC beat Pikeville 56-55. Kcc had Pikeville down thru the 3rd quarter by double figuire points and Pikeville made a come back in the 4th. Buttermilk hit the game winning shot with 15 seconds to go.
Big man comparison, both players score 10 points each.
IMO they played to a draw.
IMO if pikeville is the second best team in the 15th then KCC is the second best in the 14th.
Prestonsburg won
Allen central lost

Do you know the final in the Pburg game?

[bobby1]

Do you know the final in the Pburg game?
It was 6 points. I cant remember the final score thou.

[bobby1]

First game wasnt even close South Floyd over Pariast big.
Shelby Valley over Allen Central big
Prestonsburg over Coal Grove by 6
KCC over Pikeville by one


IMO South Floyd looked really good. Shelby Valley looked really good. I cant wait to see Prestonsburg when they get thier football players back they will be tough. KCC looked real impressive against Pikeville. KCC had a double didgit lead thru the 3rd quarter and let Pikeville back in it. KCC is young but real good, should only get better.

[Raider_Nation09]

South Floyd beat Piarist 89-42

[MVP2]

How did the big guy from Pikeville do?

[bobby1]

How did the big guy from Pikeville do?

He had 10 points and 5 rebounds and 2 blocks.
Buttermilk had 10 points and 7 rebounds and 1 block.
Neither of them had a really good game.

[bobby1]

South Floyd beat Piarist 89-42
I was really impressed with South Floyd, they played really good.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

He had 10 points and 5 rebounds and 2 blocks.
Buttermilk had 10 points and 7 rebounds and 1 block.
Neither of them had a really good game.You might need to check your stats again, from the scorebook, Buttermilk had 4 points. Dev had 19. Buttermilk was not a factor in the game at all. One might not have had a good game, but the other did. I think the question of the big men for tonights game was answered with a exclamation point.

[bobby1]

You might need to check your stats again, from the scorebook, Buttermilk had 4 points. Dev had 19. Buttermilk was not a factor in the game at all. One might not have had a good game, but the other did. I think the question of the big men for tonights game was answered with a exclamation point.

I also keep a score book and my stats was the same as the offical score book at the timers table. Also you forgot to mention that Dev had 4 fouls in the first half and 3 in the second half. So he would not have been a factor at all if it was a real game.

[UnderArmour24]

I was really impressed with South Floyd, they played really good.
You have to look some towards the team they played against though.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I also keep a score book and my stats was the same as the offical score book at the timers table. Also you forgot to mention that Dev had 4 fouls in the first half and 3 in the second half. So he would not have been a factor at all if it was a real game.I think it is time for a youtube moment.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

KCC beat Pikeville 56-55. Kcc had Pikeville down thru the 3rd quarter by double figuire points and Pikeville made a come back in the 4th. Buttermilk hit the game winning shot with 15 seconds to go.
Big man comparison, both players score 10 points each.
IMO they played to a draw.
IMO if pikeville is the second best team in the 15th then KCC is the second best in the 14th.
Prestonsburg won
Allen central lost

Glad to see someone more biased than I am on here. Pikeville came out the first half flat, got behind by 19 at the half, fought their way back in it. Had two shots to win the game but came up short on both.

[UnderArmour24]

I just heard Prestonsburg beat Coal Grove, OH by about 6 points... Don't know any stats though.

Only heard that Jordan Hall had around 20 points and Steven Patrick had a load of blocks.
Tackett had a good game with around 14 points with a couple steals. Stumbo also had a pretty good game with around 8 points and a couple of steals for Pburg.

[Card_Fan]

Well by no means did KCC play excellent in the second half, but I think that some 15th region officiating had to do with Pikeville's run. The Adams kid missed a wide open dunk and got saved by the ref with an ignorant foul call. He played over Buttermilks back all night. 15th region better watch out because there was a foul called every time Adams touched the ball.

[Card_Fan]

Sorry for the double post but the final score for the P'burg game was 50-44.

[bball fan]

KCC beat Pikeville 56-55. Kcc had Pikeville down thru the 3rd quarter by double figuire points and Pikeville made a come back in the 4th. Buttermilk hit the game winning shot with 15 seconds to go.
Big man comparison, both players score 10 points each.
IMO they played to a draw.
IMO if pikeville is the second best team in the 15th then KCC is the second best in the 14th.
Prestonsburg won
Allen central lost
I wasn't there but let me mention something before you crown KCC champs of the 14th...KCC was at full strentgh, while Pikeville has at least two starters that are still in football, one a stud in Tim Honaker. KCC led by 18 at the half and let a young Pikeville team outscore them by 17 in the second half and apparently had two wide open shots to win the game. Something tells me that this was a"good" loss for the Panthers!!

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Well by no means did KCC play excellent in the second half, but I think that some 15th region officiating had to do with Pikeville's run. The Adams kid missed a wide open dunk and got saved by the ref with an ignorant foul call. He played over Buttermilks back all night. 15th region better watch out because there was a foul called every time Adams touched the ball.As much as you all cry and make stuff up after a win, I would hate to hear it after a loss.

[Card_Fan]

KCC only has two players that really have any varsity experience so IMO they are younger than Pikeville.

[Card_Fan]

Yeah well you seen the results after the first half when they actually let them play. KCC 34 Pikeville 18. Kids with hardly any varsity experience put it all over a top 3 team in the 15th. But I figured it would be like this since it was a 15th region event. Anyway we won, enough said.

[thepharmacist]

I think Pikeville only has two seniors right now and only one plays significant minutes. The panthers are very young.

[bobby1]

As much as you all cry and make stuff up after a win, I would hate to hear it after a loss.

Well if we are crying then I would hate to say what you are doing. The patriots dominated the Pikeville team for the first 3 quarters and if they would have had any refs and some experience the game would have been a blow out from start to finish. How can anyone say that the Pikeville team is YOUNGER than the KCC team is, must be NUTS!!!!!!!!!!
All I no is that the Patriots out Played Pikeville in all aspects of the game untill the refs took over the game and everyone was saying that after the game.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I also keep a score book and my stats was the same as the offical score book at the timers table. Also you forgot to mention that Dev had 4 fouls in the first half and 3 in the second half. So he would not have been a factor at all if it was a real game.Do you want to stick with the same numbers you posted earlier sense your numbers were the same as teh official score book? Also, Dev had 2 fouls in the first half, and 2 in the second half. Are you all just mad because after all the blowing up you did over Buttermilk, he let you down?

[-STAT-]

Overall it was a good panorama at AC. 2 blowouts and 2 close finishes so it all evened out.

[Wyatt Earp]

These are pan o ramas fellas. Teams play differerent and some do not always play the way they will in season. Lot of coaches like to watch how their younger kids react in a game situation. Pikeville and KCC will both be pretty good and also Prestonsburg and Allen Central in the 58th. Shelby Valley is the one in the 15th because they are good. Just an observation but the players have all been in the weight room and this will help them with most teams they play down state. South Floyd will get better but they have a long way to go. The Hall kid from Prestonsburg will have a good year and he does more than just shoot.

[Benchwarmer]

As much as you all cry and make stuff up after a win, I would hate to hear it after a loss.

Sounds like to me you are the one crying and making stuff-up.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Sounds like to me you are the one crying and making stuff-up.What do you think I made up?

[Benchwarmer]

What do you think I made up?

All stats given. You are accusing bobby1 of making things-up.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzUpgsOd_s

Looks like Bobby1 was making up his stats as he went along. Buttermilk got dominated.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

All stats given. You are accusing bobby1 of making things-up.
I will let the video determine who was making stuff up. Bobby1 shouldnt have any credibility at all now that the truth is out.

[Benchwarmer]

And how do we know it wasn't you making things up? both had 10 points so how did Buttermilk get dominated?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

And how do we know it wasn't you making things up? both had 10 points so how did Buttermilk get dominated?

Look at post number 34 in this thread, count and see if you get 10 points or 19. By the way, Buttermilk had 6 points on the video of the game.

[Benchwarmer]

Look at post number 34 in this thread, count and see if you get 10 points or 19. By the way, Buttermilk had 6 points on the video of the game.

That is one minute and three seconds of a scrimmage where is the rest?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

That is one minute and three seconds of a scrimmage where is the rest?It might be 1 minute and 3 seconds, but it clearly shows 19 by Dev.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Here is a summery of the game. Pikeville came out flat. Missed way to many freethrows, (8-21). Missed a few layups off the break they normally make. KCC played a physical game. They had the younger players of Pikeville back on their heels.

At the halftime break, Coach Williams lit a fire under Pikeville. They came out and played hard and just as physical as KCC. Cut the lead down and was in a position to win the game on two shots. Both shots fell a little short, and KCC ended up with a 1 point win.

Refs were not a factor as Pikeville commited more fouls per half than KCC did. No player for Pikeville had 7 fouls, one fouled out with 5.

[The King]

I count 19...

[bobcatalways]

How did the new kid from Allen Central Look?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

How did the new kid from Allen Central Look?I think he looked good. He has a real nice stroke when he sets up for a shot.

[and_1]

In general, a team outside of the 15th region can not come into the region and expect to win. And when they do manage to win it is always by the skin of their teeth. The 15th region officails are a different bunch. Homecookin plays a big part in the 15th region. On another note good luck to all the teams that played last night.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I didnt see any home cooking last night. You had a team from Knott Co. playing against a team from Pike Co. in a Floyd County gym. The first half when Knott County fans said they let them play, Pikeville played on their heels. The second half, Pikeville played just as physical as KCC did in the first. In both halfs, Pikeville had more team fouls than KCC. KCC was in the bonus the first half before Pikeville. The second half, they got in the bonus about the same time. But Pikeville had more team fouls the second than KCC. I always thought home cooking means you get less fouls called than the other team.

[Sportsfan54]

How did the new kid for ac do? I think his name is Crum.

[BlackcatAlum]

How did the new kid for ac do? I think his name is Crum.

Read Post #43.

[and_1]

I didnt see any home cooking last night. You had a team from Knott Co. playing against a team from Pike Co. in a Floyd County gym. The first half when Knott County fans said they let them play, Pikeville played on their heels. The second half, Pikeville played just as physical as KCC did in the first. In both halfs, Pikeville had more team fouls than KCC. KCC was in the bonus the first half before Pikeville. The second half, they got in the bonus about the same time. But Pikeville had more team fouls the second than KCC. I always thought home cooking means you get less fouls called than the other team.


I said in general. There might have not been any home cooking at those games and that is great. But from past experiences that I have had there has been.

[Sportsfan54]

I think he looked good. He has a real nice stroke when he sets up for a shot.

That's great. I hear he was 2nd team all-state in W.Va last year, anything to that?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I said in general. There might have not been any home cooking at those games and that is great. But from past experiences that I have had there has been.The 15th region teams think the same thing when they go to the 14th or 16th. Every region thinks they get the shaft when the go outside to play.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

That's great. I hear he was 2nd team all-state in W.Va last year, anything to that?I didnt see him play that good. He may have been, but I sure didnt see it. But he is a good player and will help AC out a lot this season. I am sure he will get better as the season goes along and he gets more used to the system there.

[MVP2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzUpgsOd_s

Looks like Bobby1 was making up his stats as he went along. Buttermilk got dominated.


:thumpsup: I counted 19.

[Panther Thunder]

I also keep a score book and my stats was the same as the offical score book at the timers table. Also you forgot to mention that Dev had 4 fouls in the first half and 3 in the second half. So he would not have been a factor at all if it was a real game.
So does that mean Pikeville won by 8? LOL nice vid BBOF

[BasketBallonlyfan]

So does that mean Pikeville won by 8? LOL nice vid BBOFI still think he made up his own stats. Along with everything else in the game. But what you said does make sense, or did they give 9 points away to someone else on Pikevilles team? What about it Bobby1? Any response?

[Benchwarmer]

I still think he made up his own stats. Along with everything else in the game. But what you said does make sense, or did they give 9 points away to someone else on Pikevilles team? What about it Bobby1? Any response?

So you film for Pikeville.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Yes, I film their games. I drive the bus for them to the ballgames for free. I am in the boosters, anything that I can do to help I do.

[bobby1]

Do you want to stick with the same numbers you posted earlier sense your numbers were the same as teh official score book? Also, Dev had 2 fouls in the first half, and 2 in the second half. Are you all just mad because after all the blowing up you did over Buttermilk, he let you down?
Yes i will stick by my numbers will you. I just called the offical scorer for the tourney and double checked my numbers was all right, you must have fixed the numbers for your son and are mad because he couldnt do anything with KCC s big man.

[bobby1]

I still think he made up his own stats. Along with everything else in the game. But what you said does make sense, or did they give 9 points away to someone else on Pikevilles team? What about it Bobby1? Any response?

No I didnt make up my stats, but I heard that you like to make up alot of stats to pad your sons stats, and that is wrong because it want help him any going to college.

I just think that it is ashame that some people doesnt want to admit that there team is not as good as they thought and that other teams are better than they thought and that is a shame.

[Panther Thunder]

No I didnt make up my stats, but I heard that you like to make up alot of stats to pad your sons stats, and that is wrong because it want help him any going to college.

I just think that it is ashame that some people doesnt want to admit that there team is not as good as they thought and that other teams are better than they thought and that is a shame.
the gosh dang video shows him scoring 19. What other proof do you need? Face it you screwed up, get over it.

[Panther Thunder]

Yes i will stick by my numbers will you. I just called the offical scorer for the tourney and double checked my numbers was all right, you must have fixed the numbers for your son and are mad because he couldnt do anything with KCC s big man.
I would almost bet you 100 dollars you called no one. and 19 points is doing a lot more than nothing.

[bobby1]

the gosh dang video shows him scoring 19. What other proof do you need? Face it you screwed up, get over it.

I watched the game and there is no way that the video shows that.

[Pupaw]

Honest to god, I could care less about this topic, but BBOF has a point. The video clearly shows him with 19, none of the scores were replays, he didn't do the same move twice. Of course if BBOF is a mastermind at editing videos, then you've got an arguement. That, I highly doubt though. Unless everyone that watched this video can't count at all, he had 19. It also appeared obvious to me that he dominated in the paint.

[Benchwarmer]

Drop it guys Knott won and that is all that matters and it was only a scrimmage.

[Panther Thunder]

I watched the game and there is no way that the video shows that.
then watch the video and count the amount of points he scored. If you still disagree after watching the video then I'm done with it, so please just watch it.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I watched the game and there is no way that the video shows that.How do you account that Dev has 19 in the video. He only missed two shots from the field all night long, one was on a foul when he went for a dunk. I dare you to do this, I am assuming that you can get a copy of the tape that the two girls from KCC filmed right beside me. If you have access to the official scorers book then you should be able to borrow a game film. Show me two shots that Dev missed the whole game in which he wasnt fouled and shot free throws. Also, show us where Buttermilk had 10, the video and game I watched he only had 9. BTW, what is the official scorers name? I would also like to give him a call, or should I just wait until Monday and call and ask Johnny? I am sure he would know.

[sassy]

I don't know what all the whining is about. KCC won a game with a young team, and some of the call were questionable, especially when pville's big man went up for that missed dunk and they called a foul on KCC. These games are only to see what each school has to work with, and KCC only has 1 senior and he hasn't played since grade school. Buttermilk is also a player who hasn't played since grade school and I think he held his own against pville's big man. And KCC didn't get much from Amburgey, I don't know what was up with him, but he didn't play well, only a couple of minutes. Coach Amburgey kept jerking him in and out of the game, he couldn't get in the flow of the game, and besides the coach needed to see what his younger players could do. So all in all I think all the teams did well with what they had and when everone gets done with football, we will be watching some very good basketball.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

The reason is, you are not supposed to post false info on here. That is against the rules of the site. Bobby1 said he kept stats and his was the same as the official scorers book. He was wrong, he posted a false statement. I am sorry but I think that video proof is better than a person with no proof at all. KCC won this game by 1 point. That is not in dispute.

[bobby1]

The reason is, you are not supposed to post false info on here. That is against the rules of the site. Bobby1 said he kept stats and his was the same as the official scorers book. He was wrong, he posted a false statement. I am sorry but I think that video proof is better than a person with no proof at all. KCC won this game by 1 point. That is not in dispute.

I just talked to a KCC patriot parent that filmed the game and they said that he only had 10 points and 5 rebounds and 7 fouls. Now we have video proof of it also. So if anyone who is telling a lie it is you my friend. GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bobby1]

Enough has been said over what happen in the game and I have my opinion and you have yours. All I care about is that the Patriots won the game and really showed alot. I wish Pikeville all the best in the up and coming season, they will need it when they play VALLEY.
GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have said enough no more posting for me on this subject time to move on and celebrate a good win and bring on Cumberland.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I just talked to a KCC patriot parent that filmed the game and they said that he only had 10 points and 5 rebounds and 7 fouls. Now we have video proof of it also. So if anyone who is telling a lie it is you my friend. GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!My video proof is online where everyone can see it. Yours is in your head. You sure call a lot of people to offer no proof for anything you have said. Did you even watch the video I posted on youtube? It is easy to do, just click on the blue part of the message and then dont touch anything, it will come up on its own.

[BlackcatAlum]

Guys just let it go... If you continue to argue over this matter I will close the thread.

[blackcat_mc]

I was very proud of how Steven Patrick performed for pburg.. he's come out of nowhere this year. He's became a lot more aggressive than he was last year

[Cougarfan25]

congrats knott, some of my people from shelby valley was telling me that honaker and harmon did not play. If so, and knott just won by 1 point.......... that means that pikeville will be tough this year because honaker and harmon are a big chunk of the teams scoring and defense.

[Panther Thunder]

congrats knott, some of my people from shelby valley was telling me that honaker and harmon did not play. If so, and knott just won by 1 point.......... that means that pikeville will be tough this year because honaker and harmon are a big chunk of the teams scoring and defense.
Harmon is not playing.

[Chuck Taylor]

Pikeville will get better when the football players return. However, i do not see them winning the region if they stick with a four guard line-up. Another question: Why bring Devan up high for the pick and roll? It often makes him have to dribble or settle for a jumper. Why not use your big man on the post where he can be much closer to the basket?:confused:

[rebel mom]

I was very proud of how Steven Patrick performed for pburg.. he's come out of nowhere this year. He's became a lot more aggressive than he was last yearI haven't seen him play yet.What grade is he in?I know one thing,I'm gonna miss watching Bobby Hughes play this year.

[blackcat_mc]

I haven't seen him play yet.What grade is he in?I know one thing,I'm gonna miss watching Bobby Hughes play this year.


He's a junior this year, he'll be starting JV as center and getting a lot of minutes on the varsity team.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Pikeville will get better when the football players return. However, i do not see them winning the region if they stick with a four guard line-up. Another question: Why bring Devan up high for the pick and roll? It often makes him have to dribble or settle for a jumper. Why not use your big man on the post where he can be much closer to the basket?:confused:

With players still out in football, that is about all Coach Williams has to work with, Pikeville is like a lot of teams in this region,overloaded with guards. Deven and Matt along with others that are playing now have the pick and roll working pretty good. One of the two are always open.

[thepharmacist]

Pikeville will get better when the football players return. However, i do not see them winning the region if they stick with a four guard line-up. Another question: Why bring Devan up high for the pick and roll? It often makes him have to dribble or settle for a jumper. Why not use your big man on the post where he can be much closer to the basket?:confused:
Are you missing the sidelines there Chuck?

[If...Then]

Harmon is not playing.

sadly.

Did Tyler Baker dress?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

sadly.

Did Tyler Baker dress?

Tyler is still in football.

[bball fan]

Pikeville will get better when the football players return. However, i do not see them winning the region if they stick with a four guard line-up. Another question: Why bring Devan up high for the pick and roll? It often makes him have to dribble or settle for a jumper. Why not use your big man on the post where he can be much closer to the basket?:confused:
Why do you think that Pikeville would start 4 guards? I am pretty sure Tim Honaker has a good chance to start at a forward for them!

[Chuck Taylor]

Regardless of the number of guards, Pikeville needs to work the ball down low if its going to win the region. If Devin can score on the block then its going to open the outside for Clevinger and company. Just dont see the pick and roll as the best offensive weapon when you have the only true big man in the region. It seems that Pikeville is trying to fit the big man into a guard oriented offense instead of fitting the guards around the big man.

[meganwillis10]

Pikeville needs towork it down low in the championship game last year Dev touched the ball 6 times in the whole game that hurts their chances and everyone knows how that game turned out.
pbrug how many players where out for football, Hall is a great player but need someone else to step up big, he will be doubled all season if he does not get some help.
AC i think hammonds is a great player but will need help against a press or it will be a long season for the rebels

[allthewayhome]

Congrats to kcc on the scrimmage win.

[thetruth205]

South Floyd beat Piarist 89-42

I was impressed with South Floyd they played really hard but one thing the raiders need to work on is fouls they had a lot in the first quarter they had like 15 and thats not good because when they play a harder team and it could be a close game but with those kinda fouls it could turn into blow out and one other thing I didn't like was how Coach Hall played his players. There are a lot of good players that didn't get to play a whole lot and even some that did real good in a couple of mins and got took right back out so he might want to rethink who he is going to start or play.

[gotcha2]

Pikeville needs towork it down low in the championship game last year Dev touched the ball 6 times in the whole game that hurts their chances and everyone knows how that game turned out.
pbrug how many players where out for football, Hall is a great player but need someone else to step up big, he will be doubled all season if he does not get some help.
AC i think hammonds is a great player but will need help against a press or it will be a long season for the rebels

I hear AC looked much better in todays scrimmage at Clay County.

[uhavenoidea]

Pikeville will be tough when they have all there players
P-Burg won against a decent team with like 7 or 8 players...they will be tough with the addition of their f-ball players.
AC-I don't see them being tough throughout the region, but I see them jockeying b/t 2nd and 3rd in the district.
SF-lost basically everything except Akers...another down yr. 4 the raiders

[Chuck Taylor]

Are you missing the sidelines there Chuck?

I'm new and improved and made out of leather :D

[Elwayfan]

Pikeville will get better when the football players return. However, i do not see them winning the region if they stick with a four guard line-up. Another question: Why bring Devan up high for the pick and roll? It often makes him have to dribble or settle for a jumper. Why not use your big man on the post where he can be much closer to the basket?:confused:

Agreed!! I've been saying this all along. It's the old Dave Thomas plays.

[SpyDa]

I'm new and improved and made out of leather :D

and owned by Nike

[SpyDa]

Agreed!! I've been saying this all along. It's the old Dave Thomas plays.

Those old Dave Thomas plays worked pretty well when he had horses like Gibson and company

[Elwayfan]

Those old Dave Thomas plays worked pretty well when he had horses like Gibson and company
How many regional titles in the last 15 years?

[rallo316]

Shelby Valley looked awsome they are good.

[LIPS]

Valley looks great as expected.....south floyd looks decent....ac is way down this year....pburg will struggle this year....shut 1 guy down there and the whole team goes down the drain....but good luck to all teams this year....