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MVP2
11-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Anyone know how these games went? I heard Hazard, Riverside,Owsley, Cordia,Jenkins,Wolfe, and Knott Centrl was suposed to be there?

bball fan
11-23-2007, 10:04 PM
Anyone know how these games went? I heard Hazard, Riverside,Owsley, Cordia,Jenkins,Wolfe, and Knott Centrl was suposed to be there?
I think these games are on Saturday.

UnderArmour24
11-23-2007, 10:14 PM
No they were today(Friday) Prestonsburg also played.

bball fan
11-23-2007, 11:12 PM
No they were today(Friday) Prestonsburg also played.
I am surprised that Hazard hosted this basketball event the same day of a football playoff game. Pikeville's coaches would have been hanged in front of the courthouse if they would have messed with a football regional title game.

bball fan
11-23-2007, 11:33 PM
I am hearing the event was moved from Saturday to Friday because of Al Holland attending his sons' football game at EKU on Saturday. The only reports I have heard is that Hazard won big over Riverside and Wolfe beat Jenkins.

Quarterback7
11-23-2007, 11:44 PM
I am hearing the event was moved from Saturday to Friday because of Al Holland attending his sons' football game at EKU on Saturday. The only reports I have heard is that Hazard won big over Riverside and Wolfe beat Jenkins.

Knott Central beat Cumberland.....very physical game, not sure of the final score.

happyface
11-23-2007, 11:56 PM
I was there Cumberland won the combined score over KCC.

Cougarfan25
11-24-2007, 08:17 AM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.

Benchwarmer
11-24-2007, 08:21 AM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.

How do you get cheated in a scrimmage when you can't foul-out?

Cougarfan25
11-24-2007, 08:43 AM
well according to the other coaches who played there that day you couldnt foul out until cumberland played they had 2 fould out. It was rediculous watching kcc's scorebook person last night act like he was at the state tournament everytime those kids fouled. If Cumberlands coach would have known their was fould outs he would have coached different. Which they still got the win and thats all that mattered i guess to them.

Cougarfan25
11-24-2007, 08:45 AM
But i will say this knott county looked really good in my opinion. Th rest of the 14th better watch out.

oldgrouch
11-24-2007, 08:53 AM
How did the Leslie-Powell scrimmage go??

MVP2
11-24-2007, 02:33 PM
Heard Cordia beat Owsley by about 30.

HotSauce32
11-24-2007, 04:57 PM
Heard Cordia beat Owsley by about 30.

if this statement is true...... maybe everyone needs to know that owsley co was missing two of their main players......

ComfortEagle
11-24-2007, 05:25 PM
if this statement is true...... maybe everyone needs to know that owsley co was missing two of their main players......

Wah wah, it takes more than two players to play the game.

World B Free
11-24-2007, 05:54 PM
Who where the players and why didn't they play?

Card_Fan
11-24-2007, 11:44 PM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.

Wow did you watch the same game as me. Apparently the coach knew they were keeping fouls because he sat Desmond Johnson on the bench with about 8 mins to go in the first half because he had four fouls. The sad thing is that half the fouls that occurred didn't even get called. I think that when Cumberland gets there point guard back they will be the team to beat in the 13th though. Cumberland won the combined score by 4 points. 31-22 in the first half-Cumberland.44-39 in the second half-KCC. Good luck to Cumberland throughout the year

TakeItToTheHouse/The2nd
11-24-2007, 11:54 PM
Powell won the first half by 11 and Leslie won the 2nd by 15.

happyface
11-25-2007, 09:26 AM
The ref told the Cumberland coaches at halftime there were no foul outs. But, then after it started to get to physical than they change the rules mid stream and said that six fouls was all you got.

BasketBallonlyfan
11-25-2007, 09:39 AM
My personal opinion about the whole fouling out in scrimmages is, a coach would have to be about crazy to put his team in a game like that. We learned our lesson by doing that two years ago. The team we was playing, when one of our players went up for a shot, they got decked every time. That is just a good way of getting players hurt if you ask me. I can see giving 6 fouls instead of just 5. But the fouls should count and players should be able to foul out. Scrimmages are designed to let you know what you need to work on before the season and records count. The refs need to call the scrimmages the way they are going to call in the season, players should have to worry about fouling out, and so on. It might be a preseason scrimmage and not count for anything, but it would count if a team lost a top player or two because of one.

UKisN1
11-25-2007, 09:39 AM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.
Evidently you haven't played in the 13th region.

LOOKAYANNER
11-25-2007, 01:18 PM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.
:rolleyes: My goodness!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: No one from the 13th region should be dissing any other region's refs, that's for certain. The 13th has some of the worst officials in the state. Other regions don't even want to swap with them for the regional tournaments. I'm not going to name any names, but some of these guys are legendary in the ineptness and one-sided officiating. It's nearly impossible for an outside school to come into that region and win, unless they are 20 to 25 points better, and so deep that fouls don't hurt them.

happyface
11-25-2007, 02:53 PM
its hard to get good consistent officals anywhere you go now, not just the 13th or the 14th. But, it was the score keeper that started the controversy anyway not the refs.

Cougarfan25
11-25-2007, 03:00 PM
Yes, Knott Countys score keeper was very unprofessional

Too Good
11-25-2007, 08:02 PM
hazard should win big over riverside lmao

qb destroyer
11-25-2007, 08:40 PM
first let me say that officals are all the same. they have a limited view of the floor and as spectators in the stand the whole floor can be seen. so do not be so quick to blame the officals or put them down. take a walk in their shoes one time.

Benchwarmer
11-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Officials are all the same? I don't think so. Some have selective vision and we all know it.

Benchwarmer
11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Yes, Knott Countys score keeper was very unprofessional

I've heard it all now. Someone complaning about a scorekeeper.

Cougarfan25
11-25-2007, 09:22 PM
I've heard it all now. Someone complaning about a scorekeeper.

yes please leave that guy in hindman when you come to play us over at lcc

HotSauce32
11-26-2007, 11:42 AM
Who where the players and why didn't they play?

both of the players went to visit family in ohio and i think the other one in indiana....

HotSauce32
11-26-2007, 11:52 AM
Who where the players and why didn't they play?

Owsley and Cordia game was a physical game that seemed to be an advantage for Cordia. Cordia shot the ball well and I don't remember Hurt missing too many shots. The big guy down low really was a hustler and caused problems for Owsley. Owsley had 2 starters out in center Josh Reed and PG Jeremy Pierson. Pierson out on a church trip and Reed out due to a bruised ankle but I believe is expected to play in the first game on thursday. Also another Manious player wasnt there for a reason unknown by me.
Cordia had another guard that seemed to be able to set up an offense well and iniatiate the offense. Cordia won big the first half and only won by under 10 ( i believe) the 2nd.

dano2407
11-26-2007, 02:27 PM
That is what i was about to say. To me there is no cheating in a scrimmage. Hazard also ended up playing Prestonsburg because Estill didn't show up. Hazard won that game by a good margin to probably around 40 also. Buckhorn won against Harlan by about 10 points.

UnderArmour24
11-26-2007, 05:13 PM
That is what i was about to say. To me there is no cheating in a scrimmage. Hazard also ended up playing Prestonsburg because Estill didn't show up. Hazard won that game by a good margin to probably around 40 also. Buckhorn won against Harlan by about 10 points.
Hazard won that game against Pburg nothing close to 40 points. They played two 16 minutes halfs and Hazard won the first half by 6 and won the second half by about 15 and Tackett and Hall both had to set out for several minutes because i guess Hazard couldnt handle physical play.

LOOKAYANNER
11-26-2007, 09:46 PM
got this off of bluegrasspreps......Owsley and Cordia game was a physical game that seemed to be an advantage for Cordia. Cordia shot the ball well and I don't remember Hurt missing too many shots. The big guy down low really was a hustler and caused problems for Owsley. Owsley had 2 starters out in center Josh Reed and PG Jeremy Pierson. Pierson out on a church trip and Reed out due to a bruised ankle but I believe is expected to play in the first game on thursday. Also another Manious player wasnt there for a reason unknown by me.
Cordia had another guard that seemed to be able to set up an offense well and iniatiate the offense. Cordia won big the first half and only won by under 10 ( i believe) the 2nd.
Owsley has some talent issues this year imo. McIntosh is ok, but other than him that's about it. Reed is ok at times, but only at times. It's just when he wants to show up to play. The rest of the team has a lot of work to do. The guards are small, easily trapped in a press, and get rattled real easy, and they're streakey shooters. The other stareters do not impress me no way. I hope their new coach does ok, but if not, he is certainly not to blame. You can only play the hand you're delt, and he has a short hand.

HotSauce32
11-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Owsley has some talent issues this year imo. McIntosh is ok, but other than him that's about it. Reed is ok at times, but only at times. It's just when he wants to show up to play. The rest of the team has a lot of work to do. The guards are small, easily trapped in a press, and get rattled real easy, and they're streakey shooters. The other stareters do not impress me no way. I hope their new coach does ok, but if not, he is certainly not to blame. You can only play the hand you're delt, and he has a short hand.

i believe that the coach is dealt with a good hand.... he has plenty of seniors, its if they would glue their heads on straight and focus on the game that would help them tremendously throughtout this season...... and watch guards gets rattled easy????????

LOOKAYANNER
11-27-2007, 06:40 PM
i believe that the coach is dealt with a good hand.... he has plenty of seniors, its if they would glue their heads on straight and focus on the game that would help them tremendously throughtout this season...... and watch guards gets rattled easy????????
Maybe you're right, but just because someone is a senior doesn't make them a good player.
And you're right, I don't want to watch players get rattled easy.

bobcatfan22
11-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Powell won the first half by 11 and Leslie won the 2nd by 15.

powell won the first half by 15 and leslie won the second by 7 so powell won by and combined score of 8

LOOKAYANNER
11-27-2007, 09:06 PM
Well, either Powell won by 8 or lost 3. Who is right, we may never know.:Cheerlead

Harlan Man
11-28-2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah i went down to watch won of my old friends son play and cumberland won the combined score. surprising though as bad as they got cheated . Cumberlands big boys were on the bench with 5 minutes to go due to fouls. Which the they had not been keeping fouls all day. So i guess yo ucould say Cumberland got the good ol fashioned 14th region treatment. Anyway Cumberlands best guard didnt suit up according to thier fans.If Cumberland played without their point guard (Brock Leisge) and still won then that is a good sign for them. Leisge is an excellent guard and has started for them for 3 or 4 years now, does anyone know what is wrong with him, I hope he is not out long.

happyface
11-28-2007, 01:00 PM
actually Cumberland had 2 starters from last year out. The Blanton kid started last year, but due to injuries and football he may have lost it, but he did start last year.

Quarterback7
11-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Would you people care to give KCC a little credit? They beat Pikeville, all was on here is this persons out or that person out, they split halfs with Cumberland and all was on here is this person was out or that person was out. KCC is not going to be the best team in Eastern KY but they are going to be good and competitive every night out, why all the hating on em?

Harlan Man
11-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Would you people care to give KCC a little credit? They beat Pikeville, all was on here is this persons out or that person out, they split halfs with Cumberland and all was on here is this person was out or that person was out. KCC is not going to be the best team in Eastern KY but they are going to be good and competitive every night out, why all the hating on em?Actually QB7 I wasnt putting KCC down just simply stating that it was a solid effort by Cumberland considering their point guard and another possible starter did not play. To play Cumberland tough even without those 2 guys has to be considered a solid effort by KCC as well.

sassy
11-28-2007, 04:58 PM
Would you people care to give KCC a little credit? They beat Pikeville, all was on here is this persons out or that person out, they split halfs with Cumberland and all was on here is this person was out or that person was out. KCC is not going to be the best team in Eastern KY but they are going to be good and competitive every night out, why all the hating on em?

No one likes to see KCC win. We won the district last year, at least they could give us some credit. PCC hasn't done anything in a while and yet they get ranked higher than us. I know it takes more than winning a district title, but geez, c'mon give our boys some credit they work just as hard as these other teams do. I personally think that KCC will be tough this year, Buttermilk will help them alot and a couple of other new boys also.

Cougarfan25
12-02-2007, 05:47 PM
No one likes to see KCC win. We won the district last year, at least they could give us some credit. PCC hasn't done anything in a while and yet they get ranked higher than us. I know it takes more than winning a district title, but geez, c'mon give our boys some credit they work just as hard as these other teams do. I personally think that KCC will be tough this year, Buttermilk will help them alot and a couple of other new boys also.

the reason pcc and hazard and other schools are ranked higher is because they beat you year in and year out. If you guys are able to beat them this year maybe next year you will be rated higher

Card_Fan
12-02-2007, 06:57 PM
Back to back first round district exits and the loss of the coach that built their reputation should put PCC farther back IMO. I mean don't get me wrong, Coach Hatcher is by all means a fine coach, but we have to see what he can do with this team before we put them at the top

Cougarfan25
12-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Back to back first round district exits and the loss of the coach that built their reputation should put PCC farther back IMO. I mean don't get me wrong, Coach Hatcher is by all means a fine coach, but we have to see what he can do with this team before we put them at the top

Your right but in most polls buckhorn is rated higher than PCC. In Letcher and Knott Centrals cases though they just wont ever be rated as high as Perry until they show they can beat them during the season and not just through the summer circuits.

sassy
12-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Your right but in most polls buckhorn is rated higher than PCC. In Letcher and Knott Centrals cases though they just wont ever be rated as high as Perry until they show they can beat them during the season and not just through the summer circuits.

Your right cougarfan, but no one is gonna go to Perry County and play Hazard or P.C. and come out with the win, the refs are not gonna let that happen. I know people whine and cry over losing a game and blame the refs, but I've always said the two places you will go to play and not come out on top is Perrry County and JBS.