14th Region KAPOS

[cheerforblue]

Just wanted to wish good luck to all the girls.....:letsparty

[cheer_region_12]

Who is in this region?

[cheerforblue]

Who is in this region?

Estill, Powell. Owsley,Lee, Breathitt,Perry Central, Hazard There are more but those are some of the ones I know......Hazard is always strong and has finished 1st in state. I think Perry Central is good too. Estill is new to this region I think this is there 3rd year and have been to state the first 2. Powell went to state last year and i think this was there first time for a while to make state.

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

Perry County is always real good. And Hazard is too. Good Luck to all teams!

[cheerforblue]

Lots of talent in this region..

[loves2cheer]

you got that right.


good luck :]

[EKY Sportster]

I don't know much about the 14th cheer squads. But I'm sure that Hazard will do well, or at least they usually do.

[loves2cheer]

Yeah, usually Hazard's best team competes Medium.
They have won state many years in a row, not sure if they won last year tho.
Their other team competed Traditional last year, but they didnt make it to state.

[colonelfan2001]

Yeah, usually Hazard's best team competes Medium.
They have won state many years in a row, not sure if they won last year tho.
Their other team competed Traditional last year, but they didnt make it to state.

After winning 2006 Kapos in the medium division, Hazard didn't place last year. They put on quite an ugly show after the results were announced. I don't think they were too happy.

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

Today was great! I thought everything was run really well. I liked how the teams had dressing rooms and there was a hospitality for the judges and coaches and another for the cheerleaders. The traditional category was tough!!! PCC was awesome....if they hit everything at state they have an awesome chance of winning. I was kind of let down by Hazard; they were clean and looked good but I guess I just expected too much from them. Do they not have any fulls this year? I thought they always had fulls. I was also surprised that the only team that had double-downs was Estill County. Their cheer was loaded with difficulty; it just needs to be a little sharper. I liked Powell's pom routine the best though. I definitely think the best teams won today!

[cheerforblue]

Have to agree, thought the best teams won today!! This was one of the best ran competitions I have been too. Good Luck to all the teams that WON today and good luck at state I know they will represent the 14th well.

[pompommom]

I thought the competition today was excellent. They did a great job at scheduling and it went really fast. The teams were all to be commended.

I thought Estill's rountine to Grease was fun and energetic! I love that music though. I was happy to see them win! They had some tumble mistakes in their cheer, but over all did a great job.

PCC was great too! I thought everyone did a good job. Way to go girls! Congrats to all the Senior Cheerleaders and best wishes for your future!

[basketballwizz]

How did the teams finish what order?

[loves2cheer]

yeah. it was great.
thanks to breathitt for being such a great host :]
also thanks for all ur support!
and congrats to the winners! we'll be seeing you all in Bowling Green!

[bobcatfan22]

IMO powell should have tooken the traditional category...but it was a very close and competetive competition

[basketballwizz]

who was the winners ?

[cheerforblue]

who was the winners ?

Traditional
Estill 1st
Powell 2nd

Estill was awesome today!!:Clap: :Clap: :thumpsup: !

[loves2cheer]

powell was good.
but estill just had that spark about them that they always seem to have :]

[bobcatfan22]

powell was good.
but estill just had that spark about them that they always seem to have :]

This was a very close competition...but i didnt see powell mess up on ne thing....as i did see one of estills girl mess up while tumbling

[stride2]

I do have to say Estill and Powell was a very hard decision...I would hate to be a judge...But I would have to give it to Powell because I heard they made up their own cheer and dance and mixed there own music and Estill went through Kentucky Pep club thing

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

This was a very close competition...but i didnt see powell mess up on ne thing....as i did see one of estills girl mess up while tumbling

It was very close! Powell was very sharp on their cheer (way sharper than Estill) but Estill's cheer was loaded with difficulty and was exciting. Powell almost stood in the same spot the entire time, incorporated only 2 jumps, and had little tumbling (I think only seven girls). The hardest pass someone through was a round-off back handspring tuck. Estill had major formation changes, tumbling everywhere (including a full - I know that's not everything though), harder stunting, and they did like 6 jumps through the whole thing. No, they weren't as sharp, but they were somewhat sharp, nobody looked sloppy, and they were all synchronized, even most of their running tumbling was synchronized. This is where they go the edge, because I liked Powell's pom routine much better. Estill's was cute, but I thought the beginning was too fast for the music (though I did like the Grease theme). However, Powell did the little Mexican dance and spelled U-S-A with their poms, and this ALWAYS scores big with the judges. Trust me - I know what I'm talkin' about! If a team does not do something like that, it's usually just mediocre - which is what Estill's was. If they had a better pom routine, the score would not have been as close.

[cheerforblue]

It was very close! Powell was very sharp on their cheer (way sharper than Estill) but Estill's cheer was loaded with difficulty and was exciting. Powell almost stood in the same spot the entire time, incorporated only 2 jumps, and had little tumbling (I think only seven girls). The hardest pass someone through was a round-off back handspring tuck. Estill had major formation changes, tumbling everywhere (including a full - I know that's not everything though), harder stunting, and they did like 6 jumps through the whole thing. No, they weren't as sharp, but they were somewhat sharp, nobody looked sloppy, and they were all synchronized, even most of their running tumbling was synchronized. This is where they go the edge, because I liked Powell's pom routine much better. Estill's was cute, but I thought the beginning was too fast for the music (though I did like the Grease theme). However, Powell did the little Mexican dance and spelled U-S-A with their poms, and this ALWAYS scores big with the judges. Trust me - I know what I'm talkin' about! If a team does not do something like that, it's usually just mediocre - which is what Estill's was. If they had a better pom routine, the score would not have been as close.

I am new at pom routines.. Do most of the squads use there poms more like spelling things out? Maybe Estill can add something like that to there routine. I really like the faster more engery routines than the slow stuff like Powell did, but like I said I am new at this category..... Both teams were good today...

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

I am new at pom routines.. Do most of the squads use there poms more like spelling things out? Maybe Estill can add something like that to there routine. I really like the faster more engery routines than the slow stuff like Powell did, but like I said I am new at this category..... Both teams were good today...

On the scoresheets, there is a category for "Effective Use of Poms." I have judged before (did not judge your competition) and the only way I give full points on this section of the sheet is if someone spells out or makes something, like I've seen a girl, a heart, words, a cat paw...etc. It is just so much more effective that way then just a straight dance. Alot of squads do that if you watch the state tape from last year, and they all used to do it.
Like you, I like faster routines too, but in the "Summer Lovin'" section of the routine, I thought the moves were too fast. If they had a fast beat, like a little hip-hop beat behind it to make it seem like it speeds up, it would have been much better and not seem so disconnected, just my opinion.

[cheerforblue]

On the scoresheets, there is a category for "Effective Use of Poms." I have judged before (did not judge your competition) and the only way I give full points on this section of the sheet is if someone spells out or makes something, like I've seen a girl, a heart, words, a cat paw...etc. It is just so much more effective that way then just a straight dance. Alot of squads do that if you watch the state tape from last year, and they all used to do it.
Like you, I like faster routines too, but in the "Summer Lovin'" section of the routine, I thought the moves were too fast. If they had a fast beat, like a little hip-hop beat behind it to make it seem like it speeds up, it would have been much better and not seem so disconnected, just my opinion.

thanks!!:thanks:

[pompommom]

I tend to agree about Estill's rountine. I love the energy, but there are times when they don't seem to move with the music and a couple of the girls seem lost. I don't think I would change it at this point though, unless something was added with poms, but just work on sharpenening it up. One thing about it, the girls did the routine that was made up for them and they don't have control over how the routine is made up. Maybe their coach will take into consideration what the judges comments were and make a few minor changes. Anyway, I hope they do well at state. They really need to work on their cheer and making sure those tumbles HIT:Cheerlead

Glad I wasn't a judge as they were all very good.

[cheerforblue]

I tend to agree about Estill's rountine. I love the energy, but there are times when they don't seem to move with the music and a couple of the girls seem lost. I don't think I would change it at this point though, unless something was added with poms, but just work on sharpenening it up. One thing about it, the girls did the routine that was made up for them and they don't have control over how the routine is made up. Maybe their coach will take into consideration what the judges comments were and make a few minor changes. Anyway, I hope they do well at state. They really need to work on their cheer and making sure those tumbles HIT:Cheerlead

Glad I wasn't a judge as they were all very good.

I think the girls did have some input on their routine and they made up most of the cheer themselfs.

[stride2]

Well Estill may have had more tumbling and difficulty then Powell but Estill's dance wasn't original. Plus they all agree to go through Kentucky pep club to get a routine because they usually get a good one. But Powell spent along time making up there cheer and dance or so i heard. I don't know I don't think that people are giving Powell enough credit like they deserve. Yes I know some of you are I ain't saying that but some people are making it sound like Powell had nothing. I was there I seen what Powell had and I seen what estill had and I think Powell should have got it. Estill is a very good team but their attitudes towards the Powell county girls after they won was crappy. You know the normal haha we are better than you thing...the evil looks and the little laughs when they walked by..Yea I seen it because i was out side and I seen the whole thing. Anyways for all you Powell County cheerleaders that are reading this, you girls did awesome and you should have won it. Estill girls good luck at state.

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

This reply is not intended to be against stride2, but I just want to clear up that no one knows who makes up the routines for KAPOS, and frankly, it really doesn't matter. It is great the Powell's girls made up their own routine and they did a fantastic job. Estill's difficulty was on a MUCH higher level than Powell's, and that is why they won. And that honestly is not because of who made it up. It makes no difference who makes up the routines. If teams got extra points for making up their own routines, then my squad would make it to state every year, because I have made up the routines since I was a senior in high school, with input from the seniors on the squads after me.

Had they done the exact same routines, I can say that Powell probably would have won because they were so sharp and you could tell they were prepared. They looked great out there! But they did not have hardly any tumbling or jumps. If they had, that would have put them over the edge. I agree, Estill's pom routine was boring compared to Powell's, but it was still executed well. That is why the scores were so close.

If I could give any advice to Powell County, I would say that they just need to get more tumbling and jumps. They look great! And they did an excellent job making up their routines. I am sorry that the Estill girls were not nice, but as an outsider looking in (I don't even come from your region), I have seen posts in these threads that tells me the insults and cattiness (sp?) goes both ways. I know that if the judges had seen any indication that there was unsportsmanlike behavior, points would have been deducted from their score since there is a spot on the scoresheets for that.

[loves2cheer]

Im pretty sure judges dont care where the routine came from, there isnt a box on the scoresheet that says "Did the team or someone else create their routine?". They care about how you sell it. --and thats exactly what Estill did. Just for your information, the girls DID make up the cheer, and altered the dance. And btw, Its a called "cheer camp".
Powell's dance was good, but boring. Estill's had the pep & excitment.
As far as the cheer goes...Estill has always been one of the teams with the most stunting and tumbling ability. Yes I agree, it could be cleaner. But the different difficulty levels between Estill's & Powell's cheer was quite a bit. Powell had what you call a "safe" routine --which made it look sharp. They had an easier cheer, simple stunting, less tumbles & formations. The dance was slower & less motions.

But everyone is going to have their opinions, but whatever.
Its all over and Estill brought home the trophy :]
Congrats girls & goodluck at STATE.

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

Powell can always send in a video to get a bid to State. They have slots open.

[cheerforblue]

Well Estill may have had more tumbling and difficulty then Powell but Estill's dance wasn't original. Plus they all agree to go through Kentucky pep club to get a routine because they usually get a good one. But Powell spent along time making up there cheer and dance or so i heard. I don't know I don't think that people are giving Powell enough credit like they deserve. Yes I know some of you are I ain't saying that but some people are making it sound like Powell had nothing. I was there I seen what Powell had and I seen what estill had and I think Powell should have got it. Estill is a very good team but their attitudes towards the Powell county girls after they won was crappy. You know the normal haha we are better than you thing...the evil looks and the little laughs when they walked by..Yea I seen it because i was out side and I seen the whole thing. Anyways for all you Powell County cheerleaders that are reading this, you girls did awesome and you should have won it. Estill girls good luck at state.

I hate that this has to start again. Last year Estill cheered for Powell and was so glad that they made it to state and no sooner than they were home the Powell people started dogging Estill for going to state with no competition and now they win with competition and they have to start something else like the Estill team not making there own routine up. Let's get over it and take the judges decision and move on. :mad:

[stride2]

Powell's pom routine had hardley any motions??? Yea thats hilarious...Everyone agreed that Powell's pom routine was way better than Estill's. But whatever everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that is mine. But anyways good luck Estill at state and Powell girls reading this tell your coaches that you all should really make a video and send it in!

[cheerdad]

You know...I do not know what you saw, but I can tell you what I have on tape..when they announced Powell as the 2nd place winner, they got up accepted their award and stood in a circle on the floor. When they announced Estill as the winner, not a single Powell County cheerleader clapped, didn't even acknowledge Estill in any way. They did not look up from their little huddle. Not once did they say congratulations, clap, anything...this is right there on the floor in front of everyone. The Powell vs Estill, in anything has became a strong rival and that is all good as long as good sportsmanship is displayed by everyone!

My thoughts on the competition:

Powell Co had an awesome routine. It was VERY clean and VERY safe! It was creative and had great execution. What Powell lacked was difficulty in the cheer and dance. They also received a .50 deduction for something and for the life of me, after watching the tape over and over, I can't figure that one out. And I think the majority of the people in here has agreed to that. Estill also had an awesome routine that was not as clean and not nearly as safe. But their difficulty is what gave them the edge to win. And, I think that the majority of the people in here have agreed to that as well. If I remember correctly, tumbling isn't even scored...am I right on that? I do not remember seeing a place to score tumbling. Now, with that being said...why would someone want to start the mud-slinging? Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but there are times when opinions should be kept to one self. In every situation as this, there are 3 sides to it....your side....their side and what actually happened. Do I personally think Powell deserves to go to state....no, I don't, because the judges chose Estill, but KAPOS will fill every spot they can because it's business...it will bring in more money.

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

You know...I do not know what you saw, but I can tell you what I have on tape..when they announced Powell as the 2nd place winner, they got up accepted their award and stood in a circle on the floor. When they announced Estill as the winner, not a single Powell County cheerleader clapped, didn't even acknowledge Estill in any way. They did not look up from their little huddle. Not once did they say congratulations, clap, anything...this is right there on the floor in front of everyone. The Powell vs Estill, in anything has became a strong rival and that is all good as long as good sportsmanship is displayed by everyone!

My thoughts on the competition:

Powell Co had an awesome routine. It was VERY clean and VERY safe! It was creative and had great execution. What Powell lacked was difficulty in the cheer and dance. They also received a .50 deduction for something and for the life of me, after watching the tape over and over, I can't figure that one out. And I think the majority of the people in here has agreed to that. Estill also had an awesome routine that was not as clean and not nearly as safe. But their difficulty is what gave them the edge to win. And, I think that the majority of the people in here have agreed to that as well. If I remember correctly, tumbling isn't even scored...am I right on that? I do not remember seeing a place to score tumbling. Now, with that being said...why would someone want to start the mud-slinging? Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but there are times when opinions should be kept to one self. In every situation as this, there are 3 sides to it....your side....their side and what actually happened. Do I personally think Powell deserves to go to state....no, I don't, because the judges chose Estill, but KAPOS will fill every spot they can because it's business...it will bring in more money.

I would say the .50 deduction came from the technical judges. Someone could have stepped on a sign/pom, etc., or a girl could have touched down on tumbling or the base's hands could have been misplaced in a stunt. A ribbon could have fallen out and someone stepped on it, a spotter could have not been looking at the flyer. Just about anything can cause a deduction.
And you're right...I'm almost completely positive that tumbling is not on the score sheet, which, IMO, is not a smart thing. But all the judges include the tumbling in the difficulty section.
By the way.....I agree with everything you said!!!

[bobcatfan22]

The deduction was from a girl steping on pom i believe

[stride2]

Well let me get one thing straight right now with you cheerdad..I was sitting in the Powell County section and yes believe me those girls did clap for estill and after the competiton they all said congradulations in the back. Whether or not you seen it they did because i was with my cousin. You don't nee to jump to stuff you don't know. Powell girls were dissapointed because they didn't get it but they all held their heads high because they had a great season and they knew that they were champs at heart.

Yes that .50 deduction was from the little girl in the back waving the flag she stepped on her pom trying to pick up the flag!

And just because you don't think Powell should go to state cheerdad doesn't mean everyone don't. Yes that is your opinion but still powell was awesome and they deserve to go to state more than anyone else out there. See this is why so much stuff gets started between these cheerleaders. Their parents get on here running their mouths and getting the cheerleaders mad at each other. I thought this site was made for athletes to talk on not parents to get on here and diss the other teams?????

[cheerforblue]

You know...I do not know what you saw, but I can tell you what I have on tape..when they announced Powell as the 2nd place winner, they got up accepted their award and stood in a circle on the floor. When they announced Estill as the winner, not a single Powell County cheerleader clapped, didn't even acknowledge Estill in any way. They did not look up from their little huddle. Not once did they say congratulations, clap, anything...this is right there on the floor in front of everyone. The Powell vs Estill, in anything has became a strong rival and that is all good as long as good sportsmanship is displayed by everyone!

My thoughts on the competition:

Powell Co had an awesome routine. It was VERY clean and VERY safe! It was creative and had great execution. What Powell lacked was difficulty in the cheer and dance. They also received a .50 deduction for something and for the life of me, after watching the tape over and over, I can't figure that one out. And I think the majority of the people in here has agreed to that. Estill also had an awesome routine that was not as clean and not nearly as safe. But their difficulty is what gave them the edge to win. And, I think that the majority of the people in here have agreed to that as well. If I remember correctly, tumbling isn't even scored...am I right on that? I do not remember seeing a place to score tumbling. Now, with that being said...why would someone want to start the mud-slinging? Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but there are times when opinions should be kept to one self. In every situation as this, there are 3 sides to it....your side....their side and what actually happened. Do I personally think Powell deserves to go to state....no, I don't, because the judges chose Estill, but KAPOS will fill every spot they can because it's business...it will bring in more money.

Cheerdad I don't know why stride is getting upset with you about looks like you gave Powell a good report .. (very creative and great execution) what more can you say.Looks like he is the one putting down Estill. Estill won Powell didn't, let's move on...

[cheerforblue]

I would say the .50 deduction came from the technical judges. Someone could have stepped on a sign/pom, etc., or a girl could have touched down on tumbling or the base's hands could have been misplaced in a stunt. A ribbon could have fallen out and someone stepped on it, a spotter could have not been looking at the flyer. Just about anything can cause a deduction.
And you're right...I'm almost completely positive that tumbling is not on the score sheet, which, IMO, is not a smart thing. But all the judges include the tumbling in the difficulty section.
By the way.....I agree with everything you said!!!

I don't think anyone on here has said anything bad about Powell Co. They did a good job Estill was just better.:confused:

[stride2]

Cheerdad may have gave Powell a good report but the fact of the matter is he said Powell had bad sportsmen ship....and Powell County clapped and even told Estill congradulations....thats what makes me mad. Estill did do a very good job but in my opinion I think Powell should have got it because their whole dance didn't come straight from a movie. But what ever Estill did a great job

[loves2cheer]

Only part of Estill's dance that came from the movie was "Grease Lightening" and the "Hand Jive" and the judges absolutley LOVED that part thank you very much.
Stride, I do believe you are the one causing the problems. Your taking what everyone else is saying the wrong way, you may need to go back and read what you have posted.
Nobody said Powell did bad. Nobody said Estill did bad. They both are good teams, just with different talents and different strong points. Estill's strong point is tumbling and stunting and dancing. Powell's strong point is sharpness and being "safe". Both teams had large amounts of pep, spirit, and ability to lead the crowd. But obviously judges saw more in Estill then in Powell.

And if Powell does send in a tape then they better get a move on, because time is almost up.

[cheerdad]

Well let me get one thing straight right now with you cheerdad..I was sitting in the Powell County section and yes believe me those girls did clap for estill and after the competiton they all said congradulations in the back. Whether or not you seen it they did because i was with my cousin. You don't nee to jump to stuff you don't know. Powell girls were dissapointed because they didn't get it but they all held their heads high because they had a great season and they knew that they were champs at heart.

Yes that .50 deduction was from the little girl in the back waving the flag she stepped on her pom trying to pick up the flag!

And just because you don't think Powell should go to state cheerdad doesn't mean everyone don't. Yes that is your opinion but still powell was awesome and they deserve to go to state more than anyone else out there. See this is why so much stuff gets started between these cheerleaders. Their parents get on here running their mouths and getting the cheerleaders mad at each other. I thought this site was made for athletes to talk on not parents to get on here and diss the other teams?????

WOW,,,,hmmm...Well, since this "tyraid" was posted, I have read it several times trying to understand why and where it came from. Trying to figure out how she/he can accuse me of " their parents get on here running their mouths and getting the cheerleaders mad at each other. I thought this site was made for athletes to talk on not parents to get on here and diss the other teams?????" when this is exactly what she/he is doing herself/himself in a previous post by saying "Well Estill may have had more tumbling and difficulty then Powell but Estill's dance wasn't original". There is NOT a single routine done by any squad that is "original". Everything has been copied from something, whether it be a movie, a TV show, a dance move that was seen in a video. Just like in Estill's routine; when they did the hand-jive...they did it to the song that "back in the day" that is what they did...they did the hand-jive. Just like Powell when the Chinese music started playing, they put their hands together and bowed, just like they do in China. See my point??? These routines had a theme and both squads executed moves that related to their theme respectively. Estill's theme was music from the movie GREASE, thus, they did the dance moves from the movie GREASE.

I wasn't/hadn't/didn't diss anyone. I thought I had given praises, acknowledment and congratulations as they were deserved. If anything, I thought I would have been accused of dissing Estill because I said, "Estill also had an awesome routine that was not as clean..." No where in my post did I EVER say that Powell was/is not good or did not do a good job. Powell execute their routine exactly the way they were suppose to. They did it just the way they wanted to do it. What amazes me the most is how some people think they know more or better than a judge does. Whatever happened to the day when you didn't win, you didn't win, not because of "the judges" but because someone was just better than you on that particular day? What happened to competitions that when you won, the reward of winning was moving to the next level and not going to the next level because they are slots to fill? I have questioned this several times since KAPOS started doing this...and again this is just my opinion...it is not meant to be vacisious in any way, I am NOT dissing another team...it is just my opinion.

Stride, if you would please go back and re-read my post, you will see that what I was talking about was what happend ON THE FLOOR...I did not say anything about what was said "in the back" I wasn't in the back. I was just saying what I have on a tape.

Thank you SC for pointing that out to me about the deduction. SC and everyone else, thank you for seeing what I actually said and what I actually meant.

Stride, from one parent to another, I am sorry if my comments offended you and that you took them personal, my comments were not meant to do that in any way, form or fashion to ANYONE!!! This is a forum and a forum is just that, a place for discussion.

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

Great post cheerdad! We need more fair parents on here IMO

[cheerdad]

Thanks Central Cheer Chick!!! I was hoping that it came across the way I intended for it too!!! In these forums, so many times, when you say something, unfortunately it is taken totally out of context. I just hope that what I have said this time cannot be done that way!!!

Don't know where you are from, but are you all going to state? If so, CONGRATS and GOOD LUCK!!!!!

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

No, I graduated last year, but the team I cheered for is going, and thanks so much! I'm sure they'll do great! I have a lot of faith in them. Good luck to your girls too

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

I don't think anyone on here has said anything bad about Powell Co. They did a good job Estill was just better.:confused:

I didn't say anywhere in my post that anyone said anything bad. I was just trying to explain why they could have had a deduction, so???? I don't know what that was for and I'm sorry if I offended anyone! I was just saying that I agreed that Powell looked good just Estill was better, just like you did.

[cheerforblue]

I didn't say anywhere in my post that anyone said anything bad. I was just trying to explain why they could have had a deduction, so???? I don't know what that was for and I'm sorry if I offended anyone! I was just saying that I agreed that Powell looked good just Estill was better, just like you did.

sorry SC this was not intended for you , it was intended to Stride2. But I agree with cheerdad all the way
:rockon:

[stride2]

Wow!!! Im really sorry about all of this confusion. My sister has been on my account here supposedly "just reading" what everyone is saying. So since this is my account I am going to put my say so in what I thought.

Since I am from Powell County I will start with them. I was at your competition and I was really amazed on how well you all did!! That was the best I have ever seen the routine. It was super tight, sharpe and clean. You all deserve more respect then what your fellow students give you!!!

Estill county girls....your routine was great. Like said before you all could have been sharper and more clean but you all did great. I really liked the cheer and you all did it great, I wasn't so much digging the pom routine as much as i did Powell Counties but hey I guess the judges did.

Powell cheerleaders I am so proud of you all. You really did great. Hold your heads up girls....you all had a great season and you all are champions at heart!

Estill County girls...Goodluck at state! Show em' how its done girls!

[stride2]

Cheerdad...Im really sorry. My sister tries to get on here and make Powell County look all big and bad and like the judges made the wrong choice. This is my first time on here in like 5 days. I do see where you are coming from on what you are saying about the competition and I do have to agree with you on all of it except the part about Powell girls not giving respect to Estill. Powell was dissapointed but they still showed the estill girls respect. They clapped for Estill and then some of the girls even said congradulations when they went back to their rooms. I think estill is awesome but you know I have to go with my home team and want them to win and always say they deserved it.

[bobcatfan22]

Just heard that the powell county girls recieved a at large bid to state....looks like the girls will be visiting state afterall....congrats powell co

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

Just heard that the powell county girls recieved a at large bid to state....looks like the girls will be visiting state afterall....congrats powell co


wow! Congrats Powell! good luck at state

[loves2cheer]

IMO, I dont think STATE should do that. I think whoever wins Region should proceed and move on to STATE.
Whats the point in having Regions if they are going to let "whoever" compete at State?
State to me is an award for winning Regions. Now, say if the first place team dropped out and/or wasnt able to go and compete at State, then it would be logical for the 2nd place team of that division to go and compete.
But ohwell, I guess it is all about the money.

[bobcatfan22]

IMO, I dont think STATE should do that. I think whoever wins Region should proceed and move on to STATE.
Whats the point in having Regions if they are going to let "whoever" compete at State?
State to me is an award for winning Regions. Now, say if the first place team dropped out and/or wasnt able to go and compete at State, then it would be logical for the 2nd place team of that division to go and compete.
But ohwell, I guess it is all about the money.

Your and estill fan...i can tell lol

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

They are letting teams have a bid so that there will be more competition. They don't just let "whoever" go. They're only letting the ones who are very competitive go. Like, you know how Dunbar and Tates Creek usually go against each other? and both win nationals (pretty sure)? Well, Tates Creek might noy make it out of region but still be a great competitor at state. So if another squad from a different region is unable to attend then Tates Creek would have the opportunity to send a video in and earn their chance to go. There are regions who have really really competitive squads and not all of them have the chance they deserve to show what they have at state. So now they can, BUT they have to earn it. Showing scoresheets/videos stuff like that. They don't just let anyone go.

[stride2]

IMO, I dont think STATE should do that. I think whoever wins Region should proceed and move on to STATE.
Whats the point in having Regions if they are going to let "whoever" compete at State?
State to me is an award for winning Regions. Now, say if the first place team dropped out and/or wasnt able to go and compete at State, then it would be logical for the 2nd place team of that division to go and compete.
But ohwell, I guess it is all about the money.


Hmmm... What and interesting post!!! I think your just mad because Powell gets to go like they deserve. It ain't all about Estill now and they are mad. I don't care I think that Powell deserves to go to state more than anyone....:mad:

It was a close competition and it doesn't matter....both teams are absolutley AWESOME and they both deserve it. Get over yourself and move on...Yea Estill beat Powell at regions but ONLY BY 5 POINTS!!!!! Do you not understand how close that is????

GOOD LUCK AT STATE POWELL!!!!! I KNOW YOU GIRLS CAN DO IT!!!

[pompommom]

I have been involved in cheerleading for a very long time and I hate to see KAPOS giving in to the almight dollar. What's the point of having regional competitions...just do like all star competitions do and let everyone compete regardless of their ability or whatever. Pay an entry fee and have at it. Yeah, yeah, they can say they sent in videos and all that but it all comes down to wanting more money. It really give cheering a bad name when it's controlled by how much money the schools and parents have to shell out in order for their daughters and sons to compete. Funny....seems in basketball the TOP 16 teams play in the state tournament....guess we can start sending in ball tapes too and have a free for all at RUPP and Western.....I am not throwing off on Powell County or anyone else... any coach in their right mind would want to give their teams this opportunity. I am complaining about KAPOS and their decisions. ( so please don't start saying I am in any way worried about Powell being in Bowling Green...I have no dog in that fight whatsoever and wish everyone well) Just wish the love of money didn't run everything, but sadly it does.

Tisk Tisk...:mad:

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

Well the ones who make it to state aren't neccesarily the best teams. You might have 5 of the top 10 teams from one region. That means other teams who aren't up to par can make it out of their region and therefore compete agains the more talented teams. So this way it is pretty much the best of the best going against each other. It really has nothing to do with the money. At least, money was not mentioned in the meeting I attended when they explained why this was decided

[bobcatfan22]

I have been involved in cheerleading for a very long time and I hate to see KAPOS giving in to the almight dollar. What's the point of having regional competitions...just do like all star competitions do and let everyone compete regardless of their ability or whatever. Pay an entry fee and have at it. Yeah, yeah, they can say they sent in videos and all that but it all comes down to wanting more money. It really give cheering a bad name when it's controlled by how much money the schools and parents have to shell out in order for their daughters and sons to compete. Funny....seems in basketball the TOP 16 teams play in the state tournament....guess we can start sending in ball tapes too and have a free for all at RUPP and Western.....I am not throwing off on Powell County or anyone else... any coach in their right mind would want to give their teams this opportunity. I am complaining about KAPOS and their decisions. ( so please don't start saying I am in any way worried about Powell being in Bowling Green...I have no dog in that fight whatsoever and wish everyone well) Just wish the love of money didn't run everything, but sadly it does.

Tisk Tisk...:mad:

I honestly dont think money has anything to do with it....powell and estill was a very close call....both teams deserved to go to state and thats how it turned out...good luck to both squads

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

I'm glad Powell got a bid. They looked good at region, and BOTH Powell and Estill will represent their region well.

This is all the more reason why I think the state competition should be run like nationals. Either it should be open, or squads should send in video bids. They could select the top 20 or 25 teams to compete on one day, and have the finals with about 10 squads on the next day. That way, you definitely get the best from throughout the state. How many times have we gone to state and seen a team that couldn't even beat an elementary school but made it to state because they were the only ones in their division at region? Honestly, it is painful to watch sometimes because you just feel bad for them. It's great they got to go to state and see what else is out there, but sometimes those teams are not the caliber that should compete at state. If they did state this way, good teams from very competitive regions could get to go (which they would not have gotten to do unless they won) and probably make the final round. I'm sure there are alot of good squads from the Lexington and Louisville area that don't make it because they always compete against a powerhouse. I know that the 15th region is very competitive and many of their teams could make it if state was structured this way.

There could still be a regional competition, and the scores from there could be factored in to the selection of squads, just how they are doing with the video bids.

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

I'm glad Powell got a bid. They looked good at region, and BOTH Powell and Estill will represent their region well.

This is all the more reason why I think the state competition should be run like nationals. Either it should be open, or squads should send in video bids. They could select the top 20 or 25 teams to compete on one day, and have the finals with about 10 squads on the next day. That way, you definitely get the best from throughout the state. How many times have we gone to state and seen a team that couldn't even beat an elementary school but made it to state because they were the only ones in their division at region? Honestly, it is painful to watch sometimes because you just feel bad for them. It's great they got to go to state and see what else is out there, but sometimes those teams are not the caliber that should compete at state. If they did state this way, good teams from very competitive regions could get to go (which they would not have gotten to do unless they won) and probably make the final round. I'm sure there are alot of good squads from the Lexington and Louisville area that don't make it because they always compete against a powerhouse. I know that the 15th region is very competitive and many of their teams could make it if state was structured this way.

There could still be a regional competition, and the scores from there could be factored in to the selection of squads, just how they are doing with the video bids.


That sounds like a great idea!!!

[bobcatfan22]

I'm glad Powell got a bid. They looked good at region, and BOTH Powell and Estill will represent their region well.

This is all the more reason why I think the state competition should be run like nationals. Either it should be open, or squads should send in video bids. They could select the top 20 or 25 teams to compete on one day, and have the finals with about 10 squads on the next day. That way, you definitely get the best from throughout the state. How many times have we gone to state and seen a team that couldn't even beat an elementary school but made it to state because they were the only ones in their division at region? Honestly, it is painful to watch sometimes because you just feel bad for them. It's great they got to go to state and see what else is out there, but sometimes those teams are not the caliber that should compete at state. If they did state this way, good teams from very competitive regions could get to go (which they would not have gotten to do unless they won) and probably make the final round. I'm sure there are alot of good squads from the Lexington and Louisville area that don't make it because they always compete against a powerhouse. I know that the 15th region is very competitive and many of their teams could make it if state was structured this way.

There could still be a regional competition, and the scores from there could be factored in to the selection of squads, just how they are doing with the video bids.

Nice Post:thumpsup:

[stride2]

EXACTLY!!!! Finally someone who isn't all mad about it...I am so excited our girls get to go to state...and I really think they are going to rock it!!!

[loves2cheer]

I do think other teams being able to go to state has ALOT to do with the money. The way they look at it, more teams--more money. They're happy. Thats just business.

IMO, If teams cant beat the best team of their Region, why should they go to state to compete against MORE teams; which in most cases are BETTER. You take the little Regions who have great cheerleaders, send them to STATE with some of the big dogs [Dunbar, Davies, GRC, Anderson, Madisonville Northhopkins, Madison Central] and nothing comes out of it. But like I said, thats just my opinion. Im not saying Powell isnt good enough, because they are a great team, but they couldnt beat Estill, and they are going to encounter even better teams then Estill at State.

If they are going to start taking this "bid" thing more seriously and make it a annual thing then they need to set a "score" in each division or so many points less then the winner, are aloud to go. But i guess that is sort of what the case was here.

So, to the points. Yeah, Estill beat Powell by 5 points. But in cheerleading terms, 5 points is quite a bit. Its not like basketball and just "2 baskets" and your there. Its all the technical things. And no, even if Powell didnt get the deduction, Estill still would have won by 4.5 points. Estill can improve by making their routine cleaner;; which is the advantage that Powell has on Estill. The advantage that Estill has on Powell is their difficulty. If they can pull off all the difficulty that Estill had in a week & a half, then all power to 'em.

Most of the teams at State are loaded with difficulty. Take GRC [who competes traditional] for instance, take a look at their tumbling in the past years. You will be awed.

And no, im not trying to cause a riot that Powell shouldnt compete at State. Im just saying this needs to become an annual thing, and not just a one shot deal.

[bobcatfan22]

I do think other teams being able to go to state has ALOT to do with the money. The way they look at it, more teams--more money. They're happy. Thats just business.

IMO, If teams cant beat the best team of their Region, why should they go to state to compete against MORE teams; which in most cases are BETTER. You take the little Regions who have great cheerleaders, send them to STATE with some of the big dogs [Dunbar, Davies, GRC, Anderson, Madisonville Northhopkins, Madison Central] and nothing comes out of it. But like I said, thats just my opinion. Im not saying Powell isnt good enough, because they are a great team, but they couldnt beat Estill, and they are going to encounter even better teams then Estill at State.

If they are going to start taking this "bid" thing more seriously and make it a annual thing then they need to set a "score" in each division or so many points less then the winner, are aloud to go. But i guess that is sort of what the case was here.

So, to the points. Yeah, Estill beat Powell by 5 points. But in cheerleading terms, 5 points is quite a bit. Its not like basketball and just "2 baskets" and your there. Its all the technical things. And no, even if Powell didnt get the deduction, Estill still would have won by 4.5 points. Estill can improve by making their routine cleaner;; which is the advantage that Powell has on Estill. The advantage that Estill has on Powell is their difficulty. If they can pull off all the difficulty that Estill had in a week & a half, then all power to 'em.

Most of the teams at State are loaded with difficulty. Take GRC [who competes traditional] for instance, take a look at their tumbling in the past years. You will be awed.

And no, im not trying to cause a riot that Powell shouldnt compete at State. Im just saying this needs to become an annual thing, and not just a one shot deal.

Im saying your a powell co hater....

[loves2cheer]

Im saying your a powell co hater....


Im just talking cheerleading.
Nothing personal. ;)

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

It is an annual thing now. Thats how it was voted on and will stay that way until voted out. And you do pretty much have to make a certain score. As I said before, they don't just take anyone who wants to go.

[stride2]

Look Powell is going to state how about we all suck it up and get over it!!!! GOOD LORD!!!

[phscheerstar]

Hello this is Taylor Southwood...Just about all of you all know who I am and just the kind of person I can really be, but this is to everyone. Estill county did a good job and congrats on the win...but Powell county did have a high enough score to win a bid to state so everyone grow up and get over your self and for the parents that have to say anything bad about us (PoCo cheerleaders..)......Real mature!!!! See ya at state!!!!

[cheerdad]

Hey Powell....a huge congrats on getting the at large bid!!!

I really do not think that Estill is "mad" because you gals get to go, it is just that, especially in cheerleading, the reward of winning don't mean anything any more, that's all!!! I know these girls are excited for Powell, because going to state use to be a big deal.

I just want to wish every squad, especially Powell and Estill all the luck in the world and to go out there and do your best and show the rest of the state of Kentucky what the 14th Region brought....good teams, deserving teams, respectful teams and teams that are LOADED with talent!!!!! Powell...step it up a notch in your difficulty and Estill clean it up!!!!!

GOOD LUCK GIRLS

[pompommom]

How funny would it be if PC and EC were at the same hotel in BG? OMG....not sure there's one big enough to handle them all! hee hee

Oh, and from what I have read on here....being new to this site and this kind of forum, etc. I can only imagine what the PC fans would be saying if it were Estill who received the bid to state. Seems they were not very supportive of their county cousins last year. Guess the grass is greener???? I haven't heard EC ( or anyone) saying that PC shouldn't "get" to go to state, just that winning at regionals or wherever isn't going to mean as much with this new system. EC shouldn't care....they beat em once, they can do it again....and PC should have even more reason to buckle down and work hard to try to kick EC out of the top spot. Rivarly is a good thing when handled correctly. I hope these two counties can see that, but that will mostly be up to how their coaches handle it....they, after all, are the adults here.

Good luck to all!

[pompommom]

How funny would it be if PC and EC were at the same hotel in BG? OMG....not sure there's one big enough to handle them all! hee hee

Oh, and from what I have read on here....being new to this site and this kind of forum, etc. I can only imagine what the PC fans would be saying if it were Estill who received the bid to state. Seems they were not very supportive of their county cousins last year. Guess the grass is greener???? I haven't heard EC ( or anyone) saying that PC shouldn't "get" to go to state, just that winning at regionals or wherever isn't going to mean as much with this new system. EC shouldn't care....they beat em once, they can do it again....and PC should have even more reason to buckle down and work hard to try to kick EC out of the top spot. Rivarly is a good thing when handled correctly. I hope these two counties can see that, but that will mostly be up to how their coaches handle it....they, after all, are the adults here.

Good luck to all!;)

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

From what I hear, GRC is way down this year (I know someone posted about all of their difficulty). I know they didn't look good at region (by their standards). This is probably the worst they have been in years, so either team may have a chance at beating them! Especially the team with the most difficulty!

[loves2cheer]

From what I hear, GRC is way down this year (I know someone posted about all of their difficulty). I know they didn't look good at region (by their standards). This is probably the worst they have been in years, so either team may have a chance at beating them! Especially the team with the most difficulty!

I said they had alot of difficulty, but i was just stating what i have saw. I havent seen them this year however, but i know in the past they have had some awesome standing tumbling. Mybad if i am wrong.
Who are some of the other teams that place in the traditional division, does anyone know?

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

Pikeville is also traditional, and IMO, also down somewhat this year. But they always do well. Madison Central is ALWAYS good (I'm assuming they are also traditional this year - can't really see them changing).

I personally did not see GRC, but heard first-hand from a very reliable source (someone who judged them) that they are definitely not what they used to be. And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or anything, just posting what I had heard.

[cheerdad]

Bell County - 13th Region
GRC - 10th Region
Adair County-Red - 5th Region
Pikeville-Maroon - 15th Region
Bryan Station - Video Bid
Estill County - 14th Region
Crittenden County - Video Bid
Powell County - Video Bid
Livingston Central - 2nd Region
East Carter - 16th Region
Carlisle County - 1st Region
Breckinridge County - 3rd Region
Model - 11th Region
Wayne County - 12th Region
Moore - 7th Region
West Carter-Maroon - Video Bid

From previous years, GRC, Livingston Central, Wayne County and Moore are the names that I remember placing in the top 5. Should be an interesting category! Lots of talent!!!!


Also: To SC CARDS....I just want to THANK YOU for your insight and input to this thread. It is REFRESHING to read posts from someone "who has been there and done that" as a cheerleader, coach and judge!!!

[*SC*Cards*FaNaTiC*]

Also: To SC CARDS....I just want to THANK YOU for your insight and input to this thread. It is REFRESHING to read posts from someone "who has been there and done that" as a cheerleader, coach and judge!!!

Gee, thanks! I plan on stickin' around! Hopefully my teams will be at state someday....good luck to all competitors!

[*Central_Cheer_Chick]

I judged the 16th region this year, and East Carter won traditional there, but I thought West Carter was a whole lot better! So I know these 2 teams will be tough to beat

[cheerforblue]

Look Powell is going to state how about we all suck it up and get over it!!!! GOOD LORD!!!

like cheerdad said, I don't think Estill is mad that Powell is going to state.. they are excited that they get the opportunity again this year. BTW I was at the competition and I don't remember seeing the Powell Cheerleaders cheer for Estill or say Congradulations...Did they?

[stride2]

like cheerdad said, I don't think Estill is mad that Powell is going to state.. they are excited that they get the opportunity again this year. BTW I was at the competition and I don't remember seeing the Powell Cheerleaders cheer for Estill or say Congradulations...Did they?


Ok cheerforblue we all know you cheer for Estill County....and yes the Powell county girls did cheer for Estill and I know of about 5 girls off the top of my hear that said congradulations...Just drop it...There is no one that cares anymore..Powell girls are over it...They don't care about Estill all they care about is keeping there heads where it needs to be and thats in their routine to make it better and maybe bring traditional cheerleading back!!!!

[cheerforblue]

Ok cheerforblue we all know you cheer for Estill County....and yes the Powell county girls did cheer for Estill and I know of about 5 girls off the top of my hear that said congradulations...Just drop it...There is no one that cares anymore..Powell girls are over it...They don't care about Estill all they care about is keeping there heads where it needs to be and thats in their routine to make it better and maybe bring traditional cheerleading back!!!!

No I do not cheer for Estill I may be a fan but not a cheerleader (unless they are taking senior citizens on there team now lol)

[colonelfan2001]

Pikeville is also traditional, and IMO, also down somewhat this year. But they always do well. Madison Central is ALWAYS good (I'm assuming they are also traditional this year - can't really see them changing).

I personally did not see GRC, but heard first-hand from a very reliable source (someone who judged them) that they are definitely not what they used to be. And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or anything, just posting what I had heard.

Madison Central is going small and medium this year. Their small team will be very difficult to beat. They were practically flawless at region and loaded with difficulty.

As far as the traditional category goes, GRC's talent level is down this year. I haven't seen Pikeville, but I assume it will be a two man race between GRC and Pikeville. I was wondering what happened to Williamsburg? Bell Co. won traditional in the 13th this year. Just wanted to see if anyone went to 13th region this year. I do know that region was held at Bell Co. Anybody know anything about this situation?

I am looking forward to state this year. I hope WKU does a better job of hosting the competition than Eastern did. EKU just wasn't built to hold KAPOS. It was always set up so wierd. Anyway, good luck to all the squads!

[bobcatfan22]

What time will the competition start?

[stride2]

What time will the competition start?

I am pretty sure that it starts somewhere around 7. The coaches meeting is at like 6:20

[cheerforblue]

Madison Central is going small and medium this year. Their small team will be very difficult to beat. They were practically flawless at region and loaded with difficulty.

As far as the traditional category goes, GRC's talent level is down this year. I haven't seen Pikeville, but I assume it will be a two man race between GRC and Pikeville. I was wondering what happened to Williamsburg? Bell Co. won traditional in the 13th this year. Just wanted to see if anyone went to 13th region this year. I do know that region was held at Bell Co. Anybody know anything about this situation?

I am looking forward to state this year. I hope WKU does a better job of hosting the competition than Eastern did. EKU just wasn't built to hold KAPOS. It was always set up so wierd. Anyway, good luck to all the squads!

I was also wondering about Williamsburg? They are always very good and always place at state. Is Pikeville's team good this year?
I never knew they had a traditional team. Is this the first year?

[#1 Cheerleader]

The 14th region kapos competition was a good one this year. I was most suprised that Powell County placed second just below Estill county, but only by five points. Both squads have some high points. Powell's routine was very sharp and clean. They had some difficulty, more than what they had a few years ago. Powell county is slowly building...if they keep on the same road they will be totally awesome in a few years. Yes powell county only has seven tumbilers but that is an improvement from last year, they only had five last year. Estill's routine had alot of difficulty but however there routine was very sloppy. They could sharpen a few things up. Yes estill county has more tumbilers. Most the girls that cheer for their high school also cheer for cheer stars. so there for they get more practice and they have a gym to learn at. Yes powell county came up with their own routine. Despite the rumors about estill county their routine wasn't very original....they said estill....a and blue like a billion times...i have cheered for a squad that has had pep club do their routine for them and estills routine looked and sounded like something pep club would come up with... Estill county should have stuck with 2 1/2 large instead of switching over to traditional..their routine fits that catagorey more. Traditional is intended for a original very clean very sharp routine like powell had...if estill would have stuck in 2 1/2 i'm sure that they would have beat breathitt and went to state as well....TRADITIONAL IS FOR CLEAN ROUTINES AND ESTILLS WAS VERY SLOPPY....i admit that there routine was cute but i had seen all their moves in grease...it wasn't original..powell's was good it was original and i loved how they spelled out usa in poms and i loved their theme...wait to go girls.


Yes powell got a bid to state only because they deserved it. The represenatives of KAPOS thought that they were state material so they gave them a bid. If KAPOS thought that they were not good enough they would not have given them the bid. Every one of the girls from both powell and estill should stop the bickering and be proud that they both have a chance at state. They should be happy that the 14th regiona was good enough to have two squads represent them.. stop the bickering it is childish and everyone should get along.. after all it is just a competition and there is always next year. What ever you do girls do not show yourselves at state do the best that both squads can do and accept the outcome...

GOOD LUCK TO BOTH POWELL AND ESTILL...I KNOW THAT YOU WILL SHOW THEM WHAT THE 14TH REGION IS MADE OF..ONE OF YALL BRING A TROPHY HOME.

[loves2cheer]

Just to inform #1 Cheerleader, NONE of Estill's Cheerleaders cheer on Cheer Stars OR Cheer Cats this year. Yeah they have gyms to go take gymnastics at but Im pretty sure Powell has a gym too...something like Blaze? ..sry if im wrong. Also, i knew a few girls from Powell used to cheer for Stars so i wouldnt be saying much on that subject.

About Estill's cheer. --> if you watch the traditional state winners from the past, their cheer is simple, sweet, & to the point. The traditional cheer isnt that long so you got to get the key points in... the colors, the name, the mascot...etc.

Estill has competed Large many years in the past. They wanted to change it up this year. Obviously, they do well in all divisions. The only reason you wish for Estill to compete Large is so Powell can win again....or so thats the way it seems.

And, whats this "Estill should have stuck with 2 1/2 Mintue because Traditional is for clean teams?" haha...surely you can come up with a better reason than that.

[cheerforblue]

Just to inform #1 Cheerleader, NONE of Estill's Cheerleaders cheer on Cheer Stars OR Cheer Cats this year. Yeah they have gyms to go take gymnastics at but Im pretty sure Powell has a gym too...something like Blaze? ..sry if im wrong. Also, i knew a few girls from Powell used to cheer for Stars so i wouldnt be saying much on that subject.

About Estill's cheer. --> if you watch the traditional state winners from the past, their cheer is simple, sweet, & to the point. The traditional cheer isnt that long so you got to get the key points in... the colors, the name, the mascot...etc.

Estill has competed Large many years in the past. They wanted to change it up this year. Obviously, they do well in all divisions. The only reason you wish for Estill to compete Large is so Powell can win again....or so thats the way it seems.

And, whats this "Estill should have stuck with 2 1/2 Mintue because Traditional is for clean teams?" haha...surely you can come up with a better reason than that.


If my memory serves me right last year Estill got dogged for changing from Traditional to Large .so this year they decided to go Traditional. You all need to get on another subject this ones getting old. I think it is time to close this thread, it was started to wish all the 14th regions teams good luck not just Estill and Powell.....so why don't we move on!:mad:

[stride2]

If my memory serves me right last year Estill got dogged for changing from Traditional to Large .so this year they decided to go Traditional. You all need to get on another subject this ones getting old. I think it is time to close this thread, it was started to wish all the 14th regions teams good luck not just Estill and Powell.....so why don't we move on!:mad:

Okay my lord....Let's just say both teams are great...What happen last year was last year now DROP IT!!!! Both teams are going to state! Leave it at that..I so agree with cheerforblue that this thread was to wish girls goodluck at regions and wasn't about Powell and Estill..Yea I argued a while ago but not in a lil bit...Good luck at state girls!

[#1 Cheerleader]

I used to cheer for cheer stars, this was like two years ago, most of the girls on stars was on high school...that may not be how it is now but that is how it was. Blaze is a cheerleading team just like cheer stars is. The coach there focus on Blaze and she doesn't really offer gymnastics. The only ones who go there for gymnastics is lee county's cheerleaders. powell's girls don't go to gymnastics there, granted powell may use the floor there to practice stunts and stuff but they do not do gymnastics there. If the girls want gymnastics they have to go to another county, and that usually is to far to drive for most of the girls. I think all but two of the girls that used to cheer for cheer stars from powell county has graduated. Powell county is a winner from the past, last year, and they didn't repeat themselves a billion times, watch the tape. There cheer was original just like this years. They may do well in different catagories but you also have to look at who the judges are. Young judges like difficult stuff and very fast paced. Older judges like simple, original, and sharp stuff. I don't really care what category estill cheers in. I was just saying that 2 1/2 suits them better. In that category they have the entire two and a half minutes to do stunts and tumbiling. where estill has so much tumbiling 2 1/2 gives them more time to show it off and more time to do more difficult stunts where as in traditional you only have one minute to do all the stunts and tumbiling powell does not have that much tumbliling so traditional fits them better...do you get where i'm coming from.
I was trying to sound rude or anything about how estill should have stuck with 2 1/2 i was basing that on the tumbiling skills and the way the girls dance and stuff. estill does have more rythm than powell's girls but powell's girls have pretty shrap motions. each team has their high points and there low i wasn't trying to dog anybody...so loves2cheer you can quit your childish little temper tantrum.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL AND BOTH TEAMS SHOW THEM WHAT YOU HAVE! I KNOW THAT BOTH SQUADS WILL DO WELL. IT IS WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR THAT DAY THAT DECIDES THE WINNER!!!

[cheer_chick]

I wish Powell Co. & Estill Co. good luck!!
And i hope for the best at STATE!

[cheerdad]

A huge CONGRATULATIONS goes out to both Powell and Estill Counties for their wins at state. Both squads represented and made the fans of the 14th region PROUD!!!!!

Again...CONGRATS girls....both teams deserve their trophies!!!!!!

[pococheerleader_01]

yep and we got a video bid, and powell did awesome at state. we were so excited. At warm ups everything was dropping and we were so nervous. but when we got out on the floor we stuck everything, made faces and did great.

[SecretAgent]

I am not even from your region...and I just think that anytime a WINNER is declared than the losing squad shouldn't be allowed to compete!! Although you may have performed better at the judges thought at Regionals...Estill was better!! Also...I heard from someone that Estill's cheer changed for State...and wasn't what they competed with at Regionals....and had they used the original cheer..things would have ended differently at State!!:thumpsup:

[stride2]

I am not even from your region...and I just think that anytime a WINNER is declared than the losing squad shouldn't be allowed to compete!! Although you may have performed better at the judges thought at Regionals...Estill was better!! Also...I heard from someone that Estill's cheer changed for State...and wasn't what they competed with at Regionals....and had they used the original cheer..things would have ended differently at State!!:thumpsup:

Idoubt that seriously!!!! I wish people could just accept the fact that Powell beat Estill and go on to something else!!!!!!!!!!!! Powell deserved exactly what they got and more 'cause they had to change their cheer too. They only lost to Bryan Station by 9/10 of a point .:Cheerlead

[PHS95]

Lord, its over.... talk about something else.... LOL

I love how, whenever a thread gets closed, someone goes back to one that hasn't seen much action to dredge up the same tired argument.... argue over football or basketball or something different for a while LOL

[phs1986]

They are going to keep it up and get the entire cheerleading forum CLOSED!! It is time to grow up and stop the nonsense!!

This IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!

[stride2]

Lord, its over.... talk about something else.... LOL

I love how, whenever a thread gets closed, someone goes back to one that hasn't seen much action to dredge up the same tired argument.... argue over football or basketball or something different for a while LOL

idk why they won't let it rest but as long as they want to dish it out .....i will too:howdy: :1:

[stride2]

i believe in our girls 100% and they shouldn't be talked about all of the time but when they drop it i will too......i have said time and time again i think estill has a very good squad and loaded with talent but do you think they can be civilized and say the same about us? no ! but congrats to estill for winning regions ......... see i said it once again but they never say anything positive to or about our girls

[Midee1]

idk why they won't let it rest but as long as they want to dish it out .....i will too:howdy: :1:

If you continue to "dish it out" and refuse to heed the warnings you will find yourself on the outside looking in.

[PHS95]

That is a poor attitude and what gets most of these threads closed.... there are many times when I find myself responding to something only to walk away from the computer, think it over, and come up with a more adult solution to the problem.... I suggest that most of you do the same.... quit dishing it out, ignore the crap, and try to stay positive.

Bluegrassrivals gave this forum for people to be able to discuss cheer and dance. It is a priviledge, not a right and it can be removed at any time.... Please don't deprive others of a place to discuss these sports because of some juvenile feud!

Thanks!

[phs1986]

Clean it up!!! Speak as an adult would with a revelant reply to a post and quit bashing each other. Give it up or it will be done for you with a suspension/ban. You have been asked over and over to discontinue the argument. Please take the above advice in the previous 2 posts as well as this one if you wish to continue with a cheerleading thread or forum.

[The Installer]

Powell and Estill County are not the only the only cheerleaders in the state. Please respect this thread for the rest of of us!

[phs1986]

Thank you Intsaller

[PHS95]

Thank the three of you.... Hopefully it will sink in this time!

[stride2]

Thank the three of you.... Hopefully it will sink in this time!

hello! i want to let you all know that i am very sorry for the things that have been said on here under my name, but my little sis and her friends get on here and somehow figured out my password and they are the ones saying all of this stuff . I haven't even been on here for about a week and a half . i talked to my mom about this and she told me to apologize to everyone , especially Estill co. cheerleaders, so i really do appologize, i hope everyone can forgive me for the things my sis got on here and said. she is grounded for a month from the internet except for school work and she will be supervised. once again i am very sorry.

[phs1986]

hello! i want to let you all know that i am very sorry for the things that have been said on here under my name, but my little sis and her friends get on here and somehow figured out my password and they are the ones saying all of this stuff . I haven't even been on here for about a week and a half . i talked to my mom about this and she told me to apologize to everyone , especially Estill co. cheerleaders, so i really do appologize, i hope everyone can forgive me for the things my sis got on here and said. she is grounded for a month from the internet except for school work and she will be supervised. once again i am very sorry.


Once again... thank you very much!! We appreciate your honesty...

[Taterrr1]

Powell cheerleading dances circles around the rest of the 14th

[loves2cheer]

wow. i cant believe this is still going on...lol