Top Players in 15th 08-09

[Buttermaker_7]

Your alls thoughts...

[100%SUCCESS]

1.)Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley
2.)Matt Clevinger - Pikeville
3.)Ashley Hatfield - Shelby Valley
4.)Ian Welch - Johnson Central
5.)Devin Adams - Pikeville
6.)Logan Crowder - Allen Central
7.)Logan Bryant - Shelby Valley
8.)Josh Prater - Allen Central
9.)Josh Head - Betsy Layne
10.)Cody Parker-Johnson Central

[BlackcatAlum]

In no order...

Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley
Ashley Hatfield - Shelby Valley
Logan Bryant - Shelby Valley
Tyler Newsome - Shelby Valley
Deven Adams - Pikeville
Matt Clevenger - Pikeville
Ian Welch - Johnson Central
Cody Parker - Johnson Central
Dillion Stiltner - Phelps
Jordan Hairston - Belfry
Michael Burchett - Prestonsburg
Logan Crowder - Allen Central
Josh Prater - Allen Central
Josh Head - Betsy Layne
Hobo McCoy - Pike Central

[basketballfan000]

I guess SV is a lock then!

[basketballfan000]

The same as they were this year. Please dont give me crap about this. What i am trying to say is that at the end it does NOT always come to talent you have to be hot and sometimes lucky.

[basketballfan000]

I am sure that we can all sit here and talk about teams that SHOULD'VE went to the show and they did not. How many of us have seen what we thoght was a lock and knew they could do good down state get beat. My experiecne has been that sometimes the most talent team is not the one that goes. We have teams not lose a game in the region and not make it. That is what makes this game great! One night, one win!

[Homer Simpson]

Brandon Marson

[BlackcatAlum]

The same as they were this year. Please dont give me crap about this. What i am trying to say is that at the end it does NOT always come to talent you have to be hot and sometimes lucky.

I am sure that we can all sit here and talk about teams that SHOULD'VE went to the show and they did not. How many of us have seen what we thoght was a lock and knew they could do good down state get beat. My experiecne has been that sometimes the most talent team is not the one that goes. We have teams not lose a game in the region and not make it. That is what makes this game great! One night, one win!

I agree with your posts, Shelby Valley more than likely will win the region this upcoming season, Pikeville & Johnson Central are the only teams that can stand a chance with Valley, within the region.

[MaroonMonsoon77]

Gatlin Clark should rejoin the Panthers next year, and if he does he will be unbelievable. Ive watched him at open gym and he just tourches by defenders, and throws up some shots that should never go in but he finds a way to make them. He's really explosive, a great offensive threat, and IMO the best overall defensive player that the panthers had last year (before he left the team). So just keep an eye out for the young man.

[BlueSky]

He played well last year, but there must be something about team he does not understand... If he learn then yes he will be a good player..

[Chuck Taylor]

Gatlin Clark should rejoin the Panthers next year, and if he does he will be unbelievable. Ive watched him at open gym and he just tourches by defenders, and throws up some shots that should never go in but he finds a way to make them. He's really explosive, a great offensive threat, and IMO the best overall defensive player that the panthers had last year (before he left the team). So just keep an eye out for the young man.

Quit once and come back...shame on Gatlin...Quit twice and come back...shame on Pikeville...Time for both to part ways...

[1977]

Quit once and come back...shame on Gatlin...Quit twice and come back...shame on Pikeville...Time for both to part ways...

I agree.

[PC_You_Know]

I will say it since no one else has. Taylor Newsome of Shelby Valley. Everyone who watched the game knows he is what got them the win over Male. Taylor is a great player, but went down with a torn ACL. He will be fine this year though and I can't wait to see how Valley clicks with him back.

[ERblue4ever]

Watch out for Jake McClanahan 6-7 soph to be, from East Ridge. You people start picking top players, you need to do your homework. You name players who have been on losing teams the last couple of years nad you need to name players from winning programs, So, do your homework black kitty cat fans.

[Wyatt Earp]

I will say it since no one else has. Taylor Newsome of Shelby Valley. Everyone who watched the game knows he is what got them the win over Male. Taylor is a great player, but went down with a torn ACL. He will be fine this year though and I can't wait to see how Valley clicks with him back. Taylor is a huge part of Shelby Valley and does so much that many fans do not notice. He really was missed as the year went on and hopefully Taylor will be back next season stronger than before. He plays with the same intensity that his Dad did for Virgie and Pikeville College. He just doesn't shoot as much.:cool:

[bball fan]

Watch out for Jake McClanahan 6-7 soph to be, from East Ridge. You people start picking top players, you need to do your homework. You name players who have been on losing teams the last couple of years nad you need to name players from winning programs, So, do your homework black kitty cat fans.
Pikeville gives ER a gift in last years district which gives the Warriors their first win against the Panthers in the last 10 games and you say ER has a winning program and Pikeville has a losing program?? LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! Do your homework little baby blue indian fan!!!!!!!!

[bball fan]

I agree.
So you agree that Pikeville should not let Gatlin come back??? Which means you are saying that young kids should not get a second chance??? Are you sure that is what you want to happen, one mistake and get rid of them. Is that really what you want to happen at Pikeville 1977???

[Warlock]

Watch out for Jake McClanahan 6-7 soph to be, from East Ridge. You people start picking top players, you need to do your homework. You name players who have been on losing teams the last couple of years nad you need to name players from winning programs, So, do your homework black kitty cat fans.

I think that Jake could be a good player someday if he had a harder work ethic, but I dont see him being a top player next season. To me it looks like he isnt motivated enough or is waiting for a meter to get him started. He does have the frame to be a good player. He just needs to work at it a little harder than it appears that he is.

I dont really like homework, but I wouldnt consider East Ridge a winning program yet. Yes, they had a winning record last season with 17 wins to go with 13 loses. But look at their regional and district records. 9-10 in the region, 1-6 in the district.

[BlueSky]

After listening to all that went on, it would be very wrong for this young man not to be allowed to come back. Everything I have heard about him as a player and worker has been positive. His only need is to work on the team concept, but then again there are so many players in that position. Remember this is a game for the young people. We can all learn great lessons in sports about life. And when there is a problem, the ones involved need to work it out, not those on the outside who a persuaded by their own ideas, and also may not have all the facts...

[1977]

So you agree that Pikeville should not let Gatlin come back??? Which means you are saying that young kids should not get a second chance??? Are you sure that is what you want to happen, one mistake and get rid of them. Is that really what you want to happen at Pikeville 1977???
It seems you and I interpreted Chuck Taylor's comment differently............
That was not what I was agreeing to at all. The quote was "quit once, shame on Gatlin". He has only quit once, right? I never meant he shouldn't be allowed to come back. I thought the remainder of his comment was referring to if he quit again.. then what? That is the way I interpreted the comment and I'm sorry I hit a nerve with you. I'm all about second chances and kids make some bad decisions, that's part of growing up. As long as they learn something from those decisions and realize their actions have an effect not only on themselves but on others it will hopefully prepare them for tough decision making in the "real world".

[BlueSky]

Thanks for the words. I believe we are on the same page. You said it well. Good luck to all our kids and teams......

[Captain_44]

I think that Jake could be a good player someday if he had a harder work ethic, but I dont see him being a top player next season. To me it looks like he isnt motivated enough or is waiting for a meter to get him started. He does have the frame to be a good player. He just needs to work at it a little harder than it appears that he is.

I dont really like homework, but I wouldnt consider East Ridge a winning program yet. Yes, they had a winning record last season with 17 wins to go with 13 loses. But look at their regional and district records. 9-10 in the region, 1-6 in the district.

The kid is not a top player yet. I haven't seen him play, but I have talked to one of his teammates this past week actually and said that he does need to get a work ethic then he could be a top player.

[bball fan]

It seems you and I interpreted Chuck Taylor's comment differently............
That was not what I was agreeing to at all. The quote was "quit once, shame on Gatlin". He has only quit once, right? I never meant he shouldn't be allowed to come back. I thought the remainder of his comment was referring to if he quit again.. then what? That is the way I interpreted the comment and I'm sorry I hit a nerve with you. I'm all about second chances and kids make some bad decisions, that's part of growing up. As long as they learn something from those decisions and realize their actions have an effect not only on themselves but on others it will hopefully prepare them for tough decision making in the "real world".

I agree, good post 1977. I hope it all works out well for the Panthers, I think if they get it back together they will be a pretty fair team next season.

[anklebreaker]

Just A Rumor
But i hurd that Logan Bartrum From knott is goin to be comig to the 15th region for the rebels.
they said he has been visiting with them..and i know his family lives there
any info.

[gotcha2]

Just A Rumor
But i hurd that Logan Bartrum From knott is goin to be comig to the 15th region for the rebels.
they said he has been visiting with them..and i know his family lives there
any info.
Not sure if Bartrum will be a Rebel. But I do know his dad lives in AC's district. Also Bartrum played AAU during middle school with the Crowder's, Chris Stumbo, Justin Jackson. If Bartrum did decide to make the move to AC, I'd say these boys will welcome him.

[anklebreaker]

I Wasnt for sure bout him coming just heard it
i thought he had some family there
i did not know he played aau with them a couple years ago
he could make an impact in the 15th i think

[MaroonMonsoon77]

If i had to choose between Elisha Justice and Gatlin Clark, just IMO I would choose Gatlin. The three times that the teams met last year Gatlin held Elisha to 8 points two games, and 10 another wheras Gatlin had 14 twice and 16 in the other. Of course Valley came out in 2 of the three games, but they honestley were the better team. Maybe it is some Pikeville bias, but i really like Mr. Clark. But both young men are extremley hard workers, and I really enjoy watching them play. Good luck to both this year.

[The King]

Maybe it is some Pikeville bias

It is... Gatlin is a nice player but he isn't Elisha Justice...

[More Cowbell]

If i had to choose between Elisha Justice and Gatlin Clark, just IMO I would choose Gatlin. The three times that the teams met last year Gatlin held Elisha to 8 points two games, and 10 another wheras Gatlin had 14 twice and 16 in the other. Of course Valley came out in 2 of the three games, but they honestley were the better team. Maybe it is some Pikeville bias, but i really like Mr. Clark. But both young men are extremley hard workers, and I really enjoy watching them play. Good luck to both this year.

Gatlin is a good player, but better than Elisha? Come on now.

You can't just compare points totals to say that Gatlin was the better player in their meetings. For one thing there are so many other aspects to a player's game than scoring, such as assists, defense, and floor leadership. And anyone who has seen Valley play would know that Elisha excels in all these areas, more so than anyone else in the region this upcoming year.

Could Elisha score 20 points a game? Sure he could, he's got a nice outside shot and is very quick. But Valley doesn't need him to, they have other good players who can score as well, and part of what makes Elisha so great is helping those other players to get theirs.

Bottom line, if Gatlin plays this year (and hopefully he will), he may outscore Elisha every time they play each other. But that still won't make him the better player.

[baseballfan606]

i dont see anyone post anything about East Ridge's Korey Fields....come on guys....hes one of the best in my opinion

[rallo316]

Michael Boyd Thompson (Pike Central) and if they are given a chance to play Dalton Meade and Corey Tackett (Pike Central).

[HoRnEt4EvEr]

Is there any young upcoming players for pikeville that will get any playing time this year?

[MaroonMonsoon77]

Gatlin is a good player, but better than Elisha? Come on now.

You can't just compare points totals to say that Gatlin was the better player in their meetings. For one thing there are so many other aspects to a player's game than scoring, such as assists, defense, and floor leadership. And anyone who has seen Valley play would know that Elisha excels in all these areas, more so than anyone else in the region this upcoming year.

Could Elisha score 20 points a game? Sure he could, he's got a nice outside shot and is very quick. But Valley doesn't need him to, they have other good players who can score as well, and part of what makes Elisha so great is helping those other players to get theirs.

Bottom line, if Gatlin plays this year (and hopefully he will), he may outscore Elisha every time they play each other. But that still won't make him the better player.

I agree they're both great players, but that first stat did compare defense. Clark did an outstanding job guarding Justice, and he would guard the other teams best player everygame. When he quit the Panthers went eith 1-6 or 2-6, which i think really shows they needed him more than anyone thought. Justice is surronded by some much talent, it makes him look unbeleviable. Dont get me wrong because he is an outstanding player who will have an outstanding future, but I just think that considiring their situation and what they had to play with, Gatlin was the better player and more valuable to his team. But again i think both players are tremondous athletes and basketball players, and either one could win the MVP of the 15th region. Good Luck to both you men.

[bball fan]

I agree they're both great players, but that first stat did compare defense. Clark did an outstanding job guarding Justice, and he would guard the other teams best player everygame. When he quit the Panthers went eith 1-6 or 2-6, which i think really shows they needed him more than anyone thought. Justice is surronded by some much talent, it makes him look unbeleviable. Dont get me wrong because he is an outstanding player who will have an outstanding future, but I just think that considiring their situation and what they had to play with, Gatlin was the better player and more valuable to his team. But again i think both players are tremondous athletes and basketball players, and either one could win the MVP of the 15th region. Good Luck to both you men.
I have nothing against Clark but to compare him with Justice is not even a contest. In Justice you are talking about (arguably) the best player in the 15th region over the past two seasons and he still has two seasons to go. Clark started a lot of games last season and played well, but quit his team at crunch time. There is no comparison at this point. Maybe this time next year you might have an argument if he returns to Pikeville's team.

[Rebelfan11]

Logan Crowder Allen Central

[PC_You_Know]

I agree they're both great players, but that first stat did compare defense. Clark did an outstanding job guarding Justice, and he would guard the other teams best player everygame. When he quit the Panthers went eith 1-6 or 2-6, which i think really shows they needed him more than anyone thought. Justice is surronded by some much talent, it makes him look unbeleviable. Dont get me wrong because he is an outstanding player who will have an outstanding future, but I just think that considiring their situation and what they had to play with, Gatlin was the better player and more valuable to his team. But again i think both players are tremondous athletes and basketball players, and either one could win the MVP of the 15th region. Good Luck to both you men.

i seriously can't believe what I am reading. The boy frekaing quit on his team. DO NOT compare this boy to Elisha. Elisha has been carrying this team since his 8th grade season, and he has not let up on them once. Elisha was top 2 in the region as far as talent, no one even brought up Clark, why? Don't quit, give some other people the ball when you're on the floor, and then we'll talk about you being compared to Elisha.

Everyone in this area knows Elisha is a rare talent. I mean come on, freaking Billy Donovan is attending one of his games in Florida and will be teaching him at the basketball camp. There is not a comparison between these two players, flat line.

[MaroonMonsoon77]

i seriously can't believe what I am reading. The boy frekaing quit on his team. DO NOT compare this boy to Elisha. Elisha has been carrying this team since his 8th grade season, and he has not let up on them once. Elisha was top 2 in the region as far as talent, no one even brought up Clark, why? Don't quit, give some other people the ball when you're on the floor, and then we'll talk about you being compared to Elisha.

Everyone in this area knows Elisha is a rare talent. I mean come on, freaking Billy Donovan is attending one of his games in Florida and will be teaching him at the basketball camp. There is not a comparison between these two players, flat line.

I was giving my honest opinion of these two players, and who are you to question gatlin for quitting the team. I will tell you right now it was not his fault for leaving the team, and anyone in his situation should of quit also. Billy Donovan will be attending many games in the Flordia tourny, and one player does not make the team so he is defenitly not there to just watch Elisha. But again I love to watch both these kids play, but just in my opinion i would take gatlin. If gatlin wasnt in pikeville's system and was allowed to take over a game he would be getting a lot more talk. But Elisha has been in the mainstream with AAU and with Valley playing in big touny's. Gatlin has so much raw talent, but he is not allowed to really express it at Pikeville, but Elisha is in the perfect situation for his skill set. By no means am i degrading Mr. Justice becuase he was arguably the second best player in the 15th last year, i just think gatlin is a better player. Maybe im wrong and I take scoring into account too much, but only time will tell. I hope both young me have a great future in basketball and represent EKY the best the can.

[NEXT]

Where did Gatlin play MS ball at?

[MaroonMonsoon77]

Pikeville

[NEXT]

Pikeville

What grade will he be in next year?

[MaroonMonsoon77]

Junior

[TRAIN85]

Both are very good but their are other players in the region that need to be recognized as well.

[MaroonMonsoon77]

True Dat G-Train

[Panther Thunder]

i seriously can't believe what I am reading. The boy frekaing quit on his team. DO NOT compare this boy to Elisha. Elisha has been carrying this team since his 8th grade season, and he has not let up on them once. Elisha was top 2 in the region as far as talent, no one even brought up Clark, why? Don't quit, give some other people the ball when you're on the floor, and then we'll talk about you being compared to Elisha.

Everyone in this area knows Elisha is a rare talent. I mean come on, freaking Billy Donovan is attending one of his games in Florida and will be teaching him at the basketball camp. There is not a comparison between these two players, flat line.Ok, I believe Elisha is he better player, but don't slam a guy for something he doesn't do. Gatlin is by far the best passer Pikeville has. Without him last year Adam's wouldn't have had nearly as many points. Gatlin is as unselfish as it gets on the basketball court, I know as a Panther fan I wish he would have shot the ball more.

[PC_You_Know]

Ok, I believe Elisha is he better player, but don't slam a guy for something he doesn't do. Gatlin is by far the best passer Pikeville has. Without him last year Adam's wouldn't have had nearly as many points. Gatlin is as unselfish as it gets on the basketball court, I know as a Panther fan I wish he would have shot the ball more.

Well then someone is wrong, because from you and someone else I have heard how he scores way more than Elisha and now I have you saying he is the most unselfish person on the team.

[Panther Thunder]

1.) It doesn't take a lot to be the most unselfish person.
2.) It is a relative term.
3.) Just because you score more than someone doesn't make you a ball-hog, it just happens to be that Gatling is called upon to score more to help Pikeville than Elisha is to help SV.

[More Cowbell]

I agree they're both great players, but that first stat did compare defense. Clark did an outstanding job guarding Justice, and he would guard the other teams best player everygame. When he quit the Panthers went eith 1-6 or 2-6, which i think really shows they needed him more than anyone thought. Justice is surronded by some much talent, it makes him look unbeleviable. Dont get me wrong because he is an outstanding player who will have an outstanding future, but I just think that considiring their situation and what they had to play with, Gatlin was the better player and more valuable to his team. But again i think both players are tremondous athletes and basketball players, and either one could win the MVP of the 15th region. Good Luck to both you men.

I don't agree with you, and I hardly think it was Pikeville's defense that kept Elisha from scoring 20 points when they played. That's not a knock on Gatlin Clark's skills as a defender, but the fact is that Elisha usually does not look to score a ton of points. Rather, he is a classic point guard, always looking to get others involved and to be the team leader.

I also don't think the fact that Pikeville fell apart after Clark quit shows that he is invaluable to the team. In my opinion, that would have happened regardless if it was him or any other Pikeville starter, because when a team is forced to adjust to the loss of a key player that late in the season, it will usually affect them significantly.

But can you imagine what the loss of Elisha Justice would do to Shelby Valley? Yikes, I don't want to even imagine. Talk about a team losing their heart and soul...

[MaroonMonsoon77]

I don't agree with you, and I hardly think it was Pikeville's defense that kept Elisha from scoring 20 points when they played. That's not a knock on Gatlin Clark's skills as a defender, but the fact is that Elisha usually does not look to score a ton of points. Rather, he is a classic point guard, always looking to get others involved and to be the team leader.

I also don't think the fact that Pikeville fell apart after Clark quit shows that he is invaluable to the team. In my opinion, that would have happened regardless if it was him or any other Pikeville starter, because when a team is forced to adjust to the loss of a key player that late in the season, it will usually affect them significantly.

But can you imagine what the loss of Elisha Justice would do to Shelby Valley? Yikes, I don't want to even imagine. Talk about a team losing their heart and soul...

No im pretty sure that it was Clark's defense because it didnt happen in just one game agaisnt valley, it was every game, and it also happened to the other players in which Clark guarded from other teams. Clark was much more important to the Panthers than you would think. Other than givng quality minutes, and points, he also broght emotion to the Panthers along with Tim Honaker. Both of them really fired the team up. But you made some great points, I really started to believe you haha :)

[MaroonMonsoon77]

I really hope that statement doesnt come back to bite me in the butt. haha, elisha is gettin a ton of attention from colleges and i wish the best for him

[Cards_12]

I believe That Porter and Horn for Sheldon Clark will be pretty good next year. Ive also watched the Chapman boy play and he has been looking pretty good. Sheldon Clark should be alright next season, if they work their tails off in the off-season

[uhavenoidea]

Top player in each dist.

57th- Ian Welch
58th- Logan Crowder
Super District- Elisha Justice

Others...

57th- ???
58th- Josh Prater(AC), Josh Head(BL), Michael Burchett(P-Burg)
Super Dist.- Deven Adams(Pikeville), Matt Clevenger(Pikeville), Ashley Hatfield(SV)

Top 5
Region

1. Elisha Justice(SV)- I think almost everyone would agree..
2. Deven Adams(Pikeville)- 6'10, Todd May's Protege, A few triple-doubles last seas.
3. Ashley Hatfield(SV)- 6'5 Swingman/Slasher, Inside/Outside Combo
4. Matt Clevenger(Pikeville)- Look for a strong senior season from him..
5. Logan Crowder(AC)- Had a breakout Sophomore season..

[Black_Rebel23]

Rumor is Josh Prater is not playing next year.

[Black_Rebel23]

I don't think Prater is playing.

[BlackcatAlum]

Rumor is Josh Prater is not playing next year.

Why wouldn't he?

[Warriors23RJ]

1)Elisha Justice - Shelby Valley
2)Ashley Hatfield - Shelby Valley
3)Deven Adams-Pikeville
4)Michael Burchett-Prestonsburg
5)Ian Welch-Johnson Central
6)Logan Crowder-Allen Central
7)Logan Bryant-Shelby Valley
8.)Tyler Newsome-Shelby Valley
9.)Jonathan Shepard-Magoffin
10)Jordan Hairston-Belfry
11)Matt Clevenger-Pikeville

[BlueSky]

I agree, he could be a very good player, but first lets see if the attitude is any better.....