View Full Version : Tate Cox ruled ineligible (RUMOR)
uhavenoidea
04-24-2008, 10:33 PM
Just heard alittle while ago, that Tate was ruled ineligible...Any confirmation on this?
PLAYBOY5
04-24-2008, 10:37 PM
I don't see how in the world Tate could be ineligible. But usually first time through, you almost always are ruled ineligible!
BlackcatAlum
04-24-2008, 10:41 PM
I don't see how in the world Tate could be ineligible. But usually first time through, you almost always are ruled ineligible!
Maybe this will help you out alittle bit...
According to KHSAA rules, you have a change in address in order for the student/athlete to be eligible. So Tate's family would have to have a change in address for Tate to be eligible at Knott Central next season even though he lives in the Knott County School District.
gotcha2
04-25-2008, 07:59 AM
Based on the KHSAA rules- I too would think he would be ineligible. But- who would have thought the Newman kid at Betsy Layne woule have been eligible as a 5th year Senior. Guess we will have to wait and see.
divadawg
04-25-2008, 08:41 AM
If Tate is ineligible, wouldn't the Hall kid who also transferred from JBS be ineligible also?
TheMasterpiece
04-25-2008, 09:00 AM
Everyone gets ruled ineligible the first time, no big deal, he'll be in uniform next season for KCC.
the dark wizard
04-25-2008, 09:18 AM
I wouldnt be so sure of changing address and getting elegible. This year Knox Central got a Bell transfer for football and baseball whom changed address. He did not get elegible and wont play until baseball season of next year his senior year.
Primetime
04-25-2008, 09:35 AM
Everyone gets ruled ineligible the first time, no big deal, he'll be in uniform next season for KCC.
You have not dealt with the KHSAA much. He will NOT be ruled eligible unless he has a bonafide change of residence. Just because he lives in the district already and things did not turn out at JBS like he wanted does not mean he will be ruled eligible. It does not matter whether it is the first time or an appeal. I look for him to move somewhere else.
HazzBeen
04-25-2008, 09:43 AM
Everyone gets ruled ineligible the first time, no big deal, he'll be in uniform next season for KCC.
No they do not. If he doesn't move, he will not be eligible. Especially if JBS has a basketball team next year.
fly on the wall
04-25-2008, 09:51 AM
I wouldnt be so sure of changing address and getting elegible. This year Knox Central got a Bell transfer for football and baseball whom changed address. He did not get elegible and wont play until baseball season of next year his senior year.What about the three boys from Rose Hill who just happened to move at the same time to Scott Co. I guess thst had nothing to do with basketball. Their ndaddys just up and lost their jobs at the same time. They could have sold their Mercedes.
goodguy
04-25-2008, 10:51 AM
What about the three boys from Rose Hill who just happened to move at the same time to Scott Co. I guess thst had nothing to do with basketball. Their ndaddys just up and lost their jobs at the same time. They could have sold their Mercedes.
You don't have a clue! You need to get your facts straight before posting. Not one sentence you wrote is true.
divadawg
04-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Think about it Goodguy...the three families moved due to employment issues, especially Euton. The rule clearly says you must relocate for some purpose other than athlectics before you will be ruled eligible. The jury may have issues with one of these kids, but unfortunately for the rest of the state, it appears the other two will clear easily!
goodguy
04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Think about it Goodguy...the three families moved due to employment issues, especially Euton. The rule clearly says you must relocate for some purpose other than athlectics before you will be ruled eligible. The jury may have issues with one of these kids, but unfortunately for the rest of the state, it appears the other two will clear easily!
What makes you think one of them will have a problem?
FOX SPORTS
04-26-2008, 06:28 AM
I heard this a little while back.
There is no way a player changes schools without an address change and is ruled eligible.
BTW, Even if he changes addresses now, he will not be eligible at KCC.
Hope he gets eligible somewhere, I like watching him play.
rojas
04-26-2008, 07:14 AM
What about the three boys from Rose Hill who just happened to move at the same time to Scott Co. I guess thst had nothing to do with basketball. Their ndaddys just up and lost their jobs at the same time. They could have sold their Mercedes.
I think it was two kids from Rose Hill.
Warlock
04-26-2008, 08:30 AM
If he went back to JBS would he be eligible to play there this season?
jumpshot
04-26-2008, 11:18 AM
I think it was two kids from Rose Hill.There were 3 kids from Rose Hill. Euton, Jackson and Flannery.
goodguy
04-26-2008, 02:51 PM
There were 3 kids from Rose Hill. Euton, Jackson and Flannery.
Euton and Jackson were from Rose Hill and Flannery was from Boone Co.
LetcherCentral23
04-26-2008, 06:26 PM
I cannot speak about this situation but a close friend of my family was in the same situation and I assure you. Unless he moves or his parents divorces and one moves, he will not be playing there the next year. My friends had to divorce AND move in order for their child to play at another school.
TheMasterpiece
04-26-2008, 07:08 PM
There are some circumstances that casued him to have to transfer. This will come out in the appeal and my guess will be no one could turn a kid down with the appeal reason they have. Plus I heard his mom works at KCC now as a guidance counsler
BlackcatAlum
04-27-2008, 12:33 PM
Revealing personal information is against BGR rules, if anyone else does so they will be suspended.
JackRabbitSlim
04-27-2008, 01:09 PM
I heard this a little while back.
There is no way a player changes schools without an address change and is ruled eligible.
BTW, Even if he changes addresses now, he will not be eligible at KCC.
Hope he gets eligible somewhere, I like watching him play.
That is not neccessarily true. If they have an academic excuse. For Example, If a school a kid is at is in educational ruins, and they are near the bottom of the testing scores, then a kid can claim academic reason to transfer. The school they are going to can't be near the bottom, but they can still transfer without completely changing addresses and be eligible. That is the only other way that I know of a kid can get ruled eligible after transferring.
rojas
04-27-2008, 02:35 PM
That is not neccessarily true. If they have an academic excuse. For Example, If a school a kid is at is in educational ruins, and they are near the bottom of the testing scores, then a kid can claim academic reason to transfer. The school they are going to can't be near the bottom, but they can still transfer without completely changing addresses and be eligible. That is the only other way that I know of a kid can get ruled eligible after transferring.
The above statement is false. Attached is a link the the KHSAA transfer rule.
http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf
Please read the last sentence of the second paragraph of Sec. 1. The rule clearly states that the "KHSAA will not recognize as grounds for a waiver of the period of ineligibility an argument that the educational needs of the transferring student would be better served by a waiver.
JackRabbitSlim
04-27-2008, 08:22 PM
The above statement is false. Attached is a link the the KHSAA transfer rule.
http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf
Please read the last sentence of the second paragraph of Sec. 1. The rule clearly states that the "KHSAA will not recognize as grounds for a waiver of the period of ineligibility an argument that the educational needs of the transferring student would be better served by a waiver.
You are right in the sense that the ineligibility would be the same. But the lenght of time he/she is ineligible is not the same. For example, I know of three instances of this happening this past year. A student transfered in the first semester of school due to eduactional reasons from a school whose school was at the bottom for testing to a school in which they were near the top. They were not eligible in the same semester, but they were eligible in the second semester. I will not mention names and these three people came from two different schools. If this would have been a case of someone just up and changing schools they would have to sit the whole year, but at the eligibility hearing they were ruled eligible by their second semester. The hearings make a big difference, and yes they make it sound like in the transferring rules that it doesn't matter what educational purpose, but I am hear to tell you I seen it myself, and was actually at one of the hearings in which this took place. You are right in a sense, but it is simply a case by case basis.
bobcatfan22
04-27-2008, 09:01 PM
I think he will be playing next season
bluegrassballa
04-27-2008, 09:09 PM
I think he will be playing next season
Please elaborate.
zonebuster23
04-27-2008, 10:08 PM
What about the problems that was going on with the administration at JBS? Would these be enough of a reason for Tate and Brent to become eligible?
wooderson
04-27-2008, 10:09 PM
I think he will be playing next season
Yes, he will more than likely be playing next season but just where might that be? IMO his parents along with KCC will do everything in their power to make this transfer legit. Can they actually pull this off? I would say no at this point.
bobcatfan22
04-28-2008, 08:31 PM
Any transfer is not the easiest thing to make eligible...i honestly think the folks from kcc and tate cox have nothing to worry about.
bluegrassballa
04-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Any transfer is not the easiest thing to make eligible...i honestly think the folks from kcc and tate cox have nothing to worry about.
How would he be able to play?
bball fan
04-28-2008, 09:20 PM
Any transfer is not the easiest thing to make eligible...i honestly think the folks from kcc and tate cox have nothing to worry about.
What???? You might want to rephrase this one. You contradicted your first statement with the second one.
basketballfan000
04-28-2008, 11:40 PM
Unless JBS will not have a team, he will not play without strings being pulled. If they dont have a team then he has an appeal, I dont think just because you want to go somewhere you think you can win at is an appeal issue.
3 points
04-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Unless JBS will not have a team, he will not play without strings being pulled. If they dont have a team then he has an appeal, I dont think just because you want to go somewhere you think you can win at is an appeal issue. I don't think that is the issue. It goes much deeper than that.
#1ukfan
04-29-2008, 06:24 PM
To my understanding at this time just a HUGE rumor and there is no proof whatsoever to my knowlage backing this claim. Why is this thread still open?
BlackcatAlum
04-29-2008, 06:33 PM
To my understanding at this time just a HUGE rumor and there is no proof whatsoever to my knowlage backing this claim. Why is this thread still open?
There may not be a link to any press release or anything but this is true, Tate Cox is currently ineligible. From my understanding his family is appealing this but if he cannot play at Knott Central next season, look for his family to move else where.
Take that for what its worth.
He could always go to Scott County where it is no problem to get eligible. Lets see 3 kids are transferring to Scott County this year and the KHSAA has no problem with that. By the way Eutons dad did not get a job in Scott County but in Lexington but they chose Scott County to live I guess for its academics. The KHSAA is a political joke........
JackRabbitSlim
04-29-2008, 09:55 PM
He could always go to Scott County where it is no problem to get eligible. Lets see 3 kids are transferring to Scott County this year and the KHSAA has no problem with that. By the way Eutons dad did not get a job in Scott County but in Lexington but they chose Scott County to live I guess for its academics. The KHSAA is a political joke........
It really makes no difference how unfair it is, if they move there completely then there is nothing anyone can do about it. They can talk about them like dogs, but that's about it.
rojas
04-29-2008, 09:59 PM
I don't think the KHSAA has a rule against working in one location and living 10 or 12 miles away. Tate Cox can probably be eligible in any school system in the state AS LONG AS HIS FAMILY HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANGE OF RESIDENCE to that school district.
BlackcatAlum
04-29-2008, 10:04 PM
I don't think the KHSAA has a rule against working in one location and living 10 or 12 miles away. Tate Cox can probably be eligible in any school system in the state AS LONG AS HIS FAMILY HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANGE OF RESIDENCE to that school district.
Exactly... good post!
JackRabbitSlim
04-29-2008, 10:40 PM
Once again that's pretty much what I said.
FOX SPORTS
04-30-2008, 07:44 AM
To my understanding at this time just a HUGE rumor and there is no proof whatsoever to my knowlage backing this claim. Why is this thread still open?This thread is still open because a staff member has verified the information.
At this moment Tate Cox is NOT eligible at Knott Central.
BlueSky
04-30-2008, 09:14 PM
You are exactly right. No court in the land could stop him from playing if the family moves.....
codeblue
05-02-2008, 09:12 AM
Hey,
People all you have to do is have a change of residence and you are automatically eligible need to read up on the current transfer rules on the KHSAA web page. The KHSAA is very political. I am sure Euton will be eligible since he is a UK signee, but most kids will not be. The only way all those kids that transferred to KCC get eligible is if JBS does not field a team.
Overrated
05-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Hope they get eligible.
JackRabbitSlim
05-02-2008, 02:27 PM
Hey,
People all you have to do is have a change of residence and you are automatically eligible need to read up on the current transfer rules on the KHSAA web page. The KHSAA is very political. I am sure Euton will be eligible since he is a UK signee, but most kids will not be. The only way all those kids that transferred to KCC get eligible is if JBS does not field a team.
Was there even a question as to whether Euton will be eligible? There is no question with him, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he is a Uk recruit. His family is moving to Georgtown, so it doesn't matter if he is a UK recruit.
BlackcatAlum
05-02-2008, 02:29 PM
Lets try and keep this on-topic here fellas.
RavenBoy
05-04-2008, 12:28 PM
Didnt he move to Hindman?
rojas
05-04-2008, 04:58 PM
If his family had a legit change of address, even if from one home to another in the Knott Co school district, he could be eligible. That was the same situation as Vee Sanford at Lex Cath. The only difference was that Sanford transferred from a public school to a private school. However, Sanford did move out of the Layfayette service area. I don't know how that would work in Cox's situation due to private schools not having a service area.
RavenBoy
05-05-2008, 04:50 PM
He use to live in Pippa Passes, I assumed that he moved to Hindman.
PATS2011
05-08-2008, 06:46 PM
He use to live in Pippa Passes, I assumed that he moved to Hindman.
He never lived in pippa passes.
RavenBoy
05-09-2008, 10:54 PM
He never lived in pippa passes.His dad did, why wouldnt he?
BasketBallonlyfan
05-11-2008, 07:57 PM
You are exactly right. No court in the land could stop him from playing if the family moves.....
Even if they was to move now, would it make a difference? I thought the move had to come before the transfer and not after?
HazzBeen
05-11-2008, 10:51 PM
Even if they was to move now, would it make a difference? I thought the move had to come before the transfer and not after?
By rule, one must enroll at the new school on or after the date the entire family moves to their new address.
RavenBoy
05-12-2008, 12:30 AM
He is gonna be able to play, you know they thought this all out before he switched schools.
LOOKAYANNER
05-12-2008, 08:26 PM
If the family moves to a new residence, then he should be eligible. But if he has enrollled, and then the family moves, he will not be ruled eligible. The move has to be made before the enrollment, even if it's from a private to a public.
#1ukfan
05-21-2008, 06:44 PM
I am glad that everyone on here knows exactly what they are talking about. Wow where would we be without all the smart people here?
RavenBoy
05-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Come on, someone has to know something?
BlackcatAlum
05-21-2008, 10:47 PM
All I've heard is that he is appealing this... all we can do is wait and see how everything goes in the court.
RavenBoy
05-21-2008, 10:50 PM
All I've heard is that he is appealing this... all we can do is wait and see how everything goes in the court.So he was ruled ineligible and now he is trying to fight it? I didnt know that.
BlackcatAlum
05-21-2008, 10:52 PM
So he was ruled ineligible and now he is trying to fight it? I didnt know that.
Yes, he was ruled ineligible for athletics next season at Knott Central... I just got an update on the situation and he's already had his hearing, now he and his family are waiting to hear from the KHSAA.
RavenBoy
05-21-2008, 10:54 PM
Yes, he was ruled ineligible for athletics next season at Knott Central... I just got an update on the situation and he's already had his hearing, now he and his family are waiting to hear from the KHSAA.ohh alright, Thanks for the Info. :thumpsup:
Golden Nugget
05-21-2008, 10:57 PM
I heard he is now eligible
FOX SPORTS
05-22-2008, 07:59 AM
I heard he is now eligibleDo you have anything to back this up???
The official statement still stands as INELIGIBLE.
TheMasterpiece
05-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Its official, he has been ruled eligible at KCC by the KHSAA. Heard from some reliable sources.
PATS2011
05-22-2008, 10:42 PM
Its official, he has been ruled eligible at KCC by the KHSAA. Heard from some reliable sources.
This is correct. TATE HAS BEEN RULED ELIGIBLE> THAT PUTS EVERYTHING TO REST!
FOX SPORTS
05-23-2008, 07:27 AM
Its official, he has been ruled eligible at KCC by the KHSAA. Heard from some reliable sources.Care to quote your source???
Do you have anything to back this up?
FOX SPORTS
05-23-2008, 07:29 AM
This is correct. TATE HAS BEEN RULED ELIGIBLE> THAT PUTS EVERYTHING TO REST!Anyone have a link or source for verification so this thread can be closed?
Have u listen to WYMT lately? I t was on the news this week.
Overrated
05-23-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, he is eligible. I found out yesterday.
Brent has not got his letter yet.
PATS2011
05-23-2008, 05:28 PM
I am glad that everyone on here knows exactly what they are talking about. Wow where would we be without all the smart people here?
THIS IS THE BEST POST EVER!
Blue-N-Gold
05-23-2008, 11:51 PM
I wonder how Tate got eligible so quick when he didn't even move and Eric Back had a change of address and he still isn't eligible.
Benchwarmer
05-24-2008, 07:58 AM
I wonder how Tate got eligible so quick when he didn't even move and Eric Back had a change of address and he still isn't eligible.
There is a lot to Tates story.
FOX SPORTS
05-24-2008, 08:25 AM
This seems like a good place for this thread to end.
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