Congrats to Shawn Hall, new 15th Region Assigning Secretary

[longball]

By a vote of 9 to 7 Shawn Hall edges out Pike Central's AD Eugene Lyons for the job. Good Luck Coach Hall you have your work cut out for you.

[OffTheHook]

Congrats Coach Hall....I think...lol With the shortage of officials, could be a real headache this season. But, you will do fine.

[JackRabbitSlim]

I just don't think a coach should have this job. An A.D. is a good candidate, or even a school administrator, but a coach I don't think should have any say where these officials go. I understand he doesn't coach basketball, but at the same time he is still a coach at that school. It's obviously just my opinion, but I just don't think that is a job for a head coach.

[Mr.Kimball]

By a vote of 9 to 7 Shawn Hall edges out Pike Central's AD Eugene Lyons for the job. Good Luck Coach Hall you have your work cut out for you.

Just want to double emphasize my thoughts on this from another thread.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[hawkhead]

Let the mess begin !!!!

[baseballrulz]

Totally agreed!!:p :p

[mountain hoops guru]

Hope he knows what he is getting himself into! Should be a fun and hectic season for him.

[JackRabbitSlim]

Let the mess begin !!!!

Another great example of how politics runs our athletic department in the mountains.

[whos your momma]

Shawn will do an excellent job. He and Mr. Lyons would have both been an excellent choice but Shawn got the nod and I just want to say congrats. He has been the best official that I have seen call in the 15th in several years. He coaches baseball and I don't think that will have any impact on his decision making skills. Well deserved assingment, Congrats Shawn!! I know that you will do a great job.

[UKRULES]

I just don't think a coach should have this job. An A.D. is a good candidate, or even a school administrator, but a coach I don't think should have any say where these officials go. I understand he doesn't coach basketball, but at the same time he is still a coach at that school. It's obviously just my opinion, but I just don't think that is a job for a head coach.

He coaches baseball, not basketball. He is a seasoned basketball official and probably has as good a background in officiating as anyone. The Assigning Secretary should be a referee not an AD. AD's need to make sure their teams do well. This is a good choice.

[HORNET POWER]

where does he coach at?

[Jshort5]

where does he coach at?

Johnson Central

[ballcrazy]

Congrats Shawn.

[bball fan]

He coaches baseball, not basketball. He is a seasoned basketball official and probably has as good a background in officiating as anyone. The Assigning Secretary should be a referee not an AD. AD's need to make sure their teams do well. This is a good choice.
Finally a post that makes sense! Why would anyone want an AD that has no experience in officiating to be the assigning secretary in a region that already has questionable officiating. Hopefully Mr. Hall will train the ones we have now, recruit some good young officials, and hopefully lure some of the old ones back in, hint..hint...Mr. Blankenship, Mr. Conn, Mr. Hurley, etc.

[JackRabbitSlim]

He coaches baseball, not basketball. He is a seasoned basketball official and probably has as good a background in officiating as anyone. The Assigning Secretary should be a referee not an AD. AD's need to make sure their teams do well. This is a good choice.

Yea I know what he coaches. If an A.D. shouldn't be aloud to do this than a head coach for a competing team shouldn't be aloud either. I know it is basketball but he is in the athletic department and he is also involved with football as well. I think it was more of a matter of not wanting Pike county to run everything anymore. They just wanted this type of advantage for their school. So they recruited everyone they could and filled them full of whatever they had to tell them to get them to vote the other way. I just don't like the way it was done. I hope he does it fair, but who knows what's fair anymore.

[Greenrock]

Two out of the three would be O.K. ...But Hurley-- that's all we need is for him to come back as a official..............And may be Hurley can keep his West Virginia crew in West Virginia with him.

[The Zen Master]

finally the position moves out of Pike County. Shawn was an excellent offical in his own right and with him things might even out. Either him or Mike Walker would make a great selection and Shwn is great guy and its time the 57th district has something to be happy about:beavis:cop:

[UKRULES]

Yea I know what he coaches. If an A.D. shouldn't be aloud to do this than a head coach for a competing team shouldn't be aloud either. I know it is basketball but he is in the athletic department and he is also involved with football as well. I think it was more of a matter of not wanting Pike county to run everything anymore. They just wanted this type of advantage for their school. So they recruited everyone they could and filled them full of whatever they had to tell them to get them to vote the other way. I just don't like the way it was done. I hope he does it fair, but who knows what's fair anymore.

Didn't say he shouldn't be allowed, just that, IMO, AD's wouldn't make the best assigning secretary. Officials should be! Wonder why they wouldn't want Pike Co to control everything? You said it yourself, they want an advantage--are you saying Pike County has had this advantage in the past? How was it done? Didn't every school in the 15th Region get a vote? Seems 9 + 7 = 16 and I do believe that is the number of schools in the 15th. I really believe Shawn will be fair and do a good job...

[JackRabbitSlim]

Didn't say he shouldn't be allowed, just that, IMO, AD's wouldn't make the best assigning secretary. Officials should be! Wonder why they wouldn't want Pike Co to control everything? You said it yourself, they want an advantage--are you saying Pike County has had this advantage in the past? How was it done? Didn't every school in the 15th Region get a vote? Seems 9 + 7 = 16 and I do believe that is the number of schools in the 15th. I really believe Shawn will be fair and do a good job...

They really didn't have an advantage last year because the secretary was un-biased. This year I can't see him being fair. There are certain people in Johnson County who are well thought of and well respected who really pushed for him to get it. They wanted to keep it out of Pike County's hands, and for that matter I don't blame them, but since he is still a "Head Coach" in a participating school system I just don't think it's right. Like I said though that is just my opinion. Everybody is going to be on different sides of this fence, and that i just my side on it.

[NEXT]

Why all the hate for Pike Co.?

[JackRabbitSlim]

Why all the hate for Pike Co.?

It doesn't have anything to do with hate for Pike County. However, the 15th region is derived from a lot more than just Pike County and for a long while now Pike County has wanted to control most aspects of athletics in the 15th. That's all.

[Old Timer]

It doesn't have anything to do with hate for Pike County. However, the 15th region is derived from a lot more than just Pike County and for a long while now Pike County has wanted to control most aspects of athletics in the 15th. That's all.
In my observation, Pike County doesn't want to control anything. It just so happens that Pike County has more schools, Six.
Numerically that gives the county more, not total,control due to number of votes.

That is if one is looking at the region as divided by county lines.

BTW...anyone else heard the rumor that "promises" were broken in regard to the assigning secretary hiring??? And that the realignment plan may now be up for a revote???

[JackRabbitSlim]

In my observation, Pike County doesn't want to control anything. It just so happens that Pike County has more schools, Six.
Numerically that gives the county more, not total,control due to number of votes.

That is if one is looking at the region as divided by county lines.

BTW...anyone else heard the rumor that "promises" were broken in regard to the assigning secretary hiring??? And that the realignment plan may now be up for a revote???

This hiring messed a lot of things up they already had planned out, and I think that was their point of doing it.

[FOX SPORTS]

I heard things might get ugly.

Special meeting planned...maybe redraft realignment.

[NEXT]

I heard things might get ugly.

Special meeting planned...maybe redraft realignment.

Good ole boy politics at its finest.........


I think Hall will do a good job.

[Greenrock]

He will do his best -you'll see....The region will see. Alot of people are glad to see the change... :-) I sure am...

[hawkhead]

I heard things might get ugly.

Special meeting planned...maybe redraft realignment.

Amen to a new meeting for re-alignment. Look out Floyd County...you may have hurt your chances for staying together and killed your supers desire to get on the board of control next year. What a shame........

[mountain hoops guru]

I would like to see the Floyd County Schools move into the 14th region. Let Estill, JBS and Powell get out and Allen Central, South Floyd and Prestonsburg get in! Would make the 14th that much better and a lot closer for everyone to travel...

[Hoopla]

Does anyone think that this will give Johnson Central an unfair advantage? I do agree that Pike County has always had the control of the 15th region, but I for one am glad that even though it may unfair for Johnson County, Pike County will not have the unfair advantage anymore. Futhermore, anyone thqt can sit there and say that Pike County hasn't had an unfair advantage must be living in Pike County. You want proof, 6 teams in Pike County - 2 districts. 5 teams in 4 counties - 1 districts. Realignment proprosal still benefited Pike Co. 4 teams still would have made it to the region. I know youre gonna say "well the 5 team district was gonna get 3" but the 3rd team would still have to win a play in game. BOTTOM LINE EVERY 15TH REGION CHAMPIONSHIP HAD TO GO THROUGH PIKE COUNTY. And even with this, it still may have to go.

[NEXT]

Does anyone think that this will give Johnson Central an unfair advantage? I do agree that Pike County has always had the control of the 15th region, but I for one am glad that even though it may unfair for Johnson County, Pike County will not have the unfair advantage anymore. Futhermore, anyone thqt can sit there and say that Pike County hasn't had an unfair advantage must be living in Pike County. You want proof, 6 teams in Pike County - 2 districts. 5 teams in 4 counties - 1 districts. Realignment proprosal still benefited Pike Co. 4 teams still would have made it to the region. I know youre gonna say "well the 5 team district was gonna get 3" but the 3rd team would still have to win a play in game. BOTTOM LINE EVERY 15TH REGION CHAMPIONSHIP HAD TO GO THROUGH PIKE COUNTY. And even with this, it still may have to go.


Because it has the largest population, and the most amount of schools.

It also helps that Pikeville, Virgie, Belfry, and Shelby Valley all put together pretty good streaks in the past 50 years with only Paintsville having any answer to the dominance.

[longball]

Heard rumor today that Bubby Davis is going to be the assistant assigning sect.
Can you say Johnson County Mafia!!!!!

[bball fan]

Heard rumor today that Bubby Davis is going to be the assistant assigning sect.
Can you say Johnson County Mafia!!!!!
Sure beats the Pike Co. mafia that they tried to pull off!!!

[Greenrock]

You'll not find a better man to help. I don't blame Bubby for not calling games this year because it's not FUN to him anymore. It's been the Buddies system for the last time. You have to have your top people to represent you durning District and Regionals by the ratings not who is SUCKING up to the assigning secretary. The Buddies calling him everyday sucking up so they can get better games. It's great to have men who will do a good job and do it fair. Why do you think the better officals QUIT...Good help is hard to find. From what I was told the OFFICALS are glad that there has been a change. Good luck




:letsparty

[The Fan]

By a vote of 9 to 7 Shawn Hall edges out Pike Central's AD Eugene Lyons for the job. Good Luck Coach Hall you have your work cut out for you.i dont like him he tried to throw me out of a game a couple years ago at Johnson Central when i litterally hadnt opened my mouth it was the guy couple rows below me . He embarrased me and after it was straightened out he never had the courtesy to appoligise

[MCDADDY]

Does the assigning secretary position carry a stipend with it?

[Wyatt Earp]

Does the assigning secretary position carry a stipend with it?
Yes, Each school pays in about 150.00 dollars. There is no assistant that is paid as it was once in the past. Someone correct me if this is wrong and know more about it.

[Tubby Lover]

This man will play politics.

[BballFan63]

I just don't think a coach should have this job. An A.D. is a good candidate, or even a school administrator, but a coach I don't think should have any say where these officials go. I understand he doesn't coach basketball, but at the same time he is still a coach at that school. It's obviously just my opinion, but I just don't think that is a job for a head coach.


Just as a coach of any sport should not be officiating games of any kind, especially within the distirct where he coaches. Not to mention any names......

[BballFan63]

Let the mess begin !!!!
Don't you mean continue. Actually though, I think Hall will do a good job. Even if he doesn't, he couldn't do any worse.

[BballFan63]

Two out of the three would be O.K. ...But Hurley-- that's all we need is for him to come back as a official..............And may be Hurley can keep his West Virginia crew in West Virginia with him.
OOHH. I didn't think about him officiating again. Not good.

[BballFan63]

They really didn't have an advantage last year because the secretary was un-biased. This year I can't see him being fair. There are certain people in Johnson County who are well thought of and well respected who really pushed for him to get it. They wanted to keep it out of Pike County's hands, and for that matter I don't blame them, but since he is still a "Head Coach" in a participating school system I just don't think it's right. Like I said though that is just my opinion. Everybody is going to be on different sides of this fence, and that i just my side on it.
And no matter what he does, right or wrong, fair or unfair, there will be someone unsatisfied just as they always are. Let's give him a chance before he's bashed. Maybe he has more integrity and character than everyone is giving him credit for having.

[BballFan63]

Why all the hate for Pike Co.?
You must be from Pike County or you wouldn't have to ask that question.

[BballFan63]

This man will play politics.
Any proof to back up this statement?

[JackRabbitSlim]

Just as a coach of any sport should not be officiating games of any kind, especially within the distirct where he coaches. Not to mention any names......


I completely agree! I can't believe that have that crap going on as well. Him and his brother have been doing the 57th forever, and it just isn't right for them to be associated within the district as head coaches and officiating against the other members. I don't care who you are in that situation it would be hard to stay unbiased.

And no matter what he does, right or wrong, fair or unfair, there will be someone unsatisfied just as they always are. Let's give him a chance before he's bashed. Maybe he has more integrity and character than everyone is giving him credit for having.

Well maybe he does, and maybe he don't. We will find out, but I wish they could have picked somebody else without a head coaching job within the Region. All it does is it leaves himself wide open for criticism and accusations.

[BballFan63]

I completely agree! I can't believe that have that crap going on as well. Him and his brother have been doing the 57th forever, and it just isn't right for them to be associated within the district as head coaches and officiating against the other members. I don't care who you are in that situation it would be hard to stay unbiased.



Well maybe he does, and maybe he don't. We will find out, but I wish they could have picked somebody else without a head coaching job within the Region. All it does is it leaves himself wide open for criticism and accusations.

Very true; I personally wouldn't have put myself in that situation. Looks like he would have enough stress just being a head coach. Maybe he wants to see some long needed changes made. But, as you said, we'll have to wait and see what kind of job he does.

[BigBlueNation]

I completely agree! I can't believe that have that crap going on as well. Him and his brother have been doing the 57th forever, and it just isn't right for them to be associated within the district as head coaches and officiating against the other members. I don't care who you are in that situation it would be hard to stay unbiased.



Well maybe he does, and maybe he don't. We will find out, but I wish they could have picked somebody else without a head coaching job within the Region. All it does is it leaves himself wide open for criticism and accusations.


The only ones who will criticize or accuse are those that want to hide behind names on BGR or other forums. The bottom line is, Coach Hall is a standup guy no matter how you look at it. You don't hire principals unless they have some experience dealing with kids. Why would you vote in someone in this position who has never had the experience or dealings with referees. Come on, Common sense goes a long way. The FEW who hate change, make everything miserable for the rest of us. Make no mistake about it, he was the best candidate for this position considering those that wanted it! It wouldn't make sense to vote someone in who couldn't come in and evaluate referees properly either. How could one do that who has never done it themselves? Bill Mike Runyon openly endorsed Hall, everyone on here seems to think he is a saint....that must count for something now, right?

[GOT GAME]

How can you say this...lol...Look at who the 15th region has had for their assigning secretary in the past. A certain assigning secretary was the principal at Belfry High if I am not mistaken he was also a coach for Belfry for years while being the assigning secretary...The guy who followed him was from Pike Co. Is he not a athletic director of Pike
Co. schools. lol...The last one from Pike Co. had a son who played for Belfry. Get real.
You guys are just jealous because it is not in Pike Co. anymore.

[GOT GAME]

How can you say this...lol...Look at who the 15th region has had for their assigning secretary in the past. A certain assigning secretary was the principal at Belfry High if I am not mistaken he was also a coach for Belfry for years while being the assigning secretary...The guy who followed him was from Pike Co. Is he not a athletic director of Pike
Co. schools. lol...The last one from Pike Co. had a son who played for Belfry. Get real. You guys are just jealous because it is not in Pike Co. anymore.

[JackRabbitSlim]

The only ones who will criticize or accuse are those that want to hide behind names on BGR or other forums. The bottom line is, Coach Hall is a standup guy no matter how you look at it. You don't hire principals unless they have some experience dealing with kids. Why would you vote in someone in this position who has never had the experience or dealings with referees. Come on, Common sense goes a long way. The FEW who hate change, make everything miserable for the rest of us. Make no mistake about it, he was the best candidate for this position considering those that wanted it! It wouldn't make sense to vote someone in who couldn't come in and evaluate referees properly either. How could one do that who has never done it themselves? Bill Mike Runyon openly endorsed Hall, everyone on here seems to think he is a saint....that must count for something now, right?

I was never questioning his integrity or that he wasn't the best option for this job. If I did make it sound that way I didn't mean to. The only thing I was/am concerned with is the fact that he not only coaches football, but is the Head Coach for the baseball team, who is a very competitive team every year and it takes year around to develop that. I just think he has too much on his plate, that's all.

[GOT GAME]

Sounded like you were. No way you can say this because if a principal who is over the whole school 6,7 or 800 students and a athletic director who is over 6 schools can do it then it should be a piece of cake for a coach.

[GOT GAME]

He can't do any worse than what has been done over the last 6 to 7 years.
Just as the schools. Even the Pike Co schools will tell you this.

[JackRabbitSlim]

Sounded like you were. No way you can say this because if a principal who is over the whole school 6,7 or 800 students and a athletic director who is over 6 schools can do it then it should be a piece of cake for a coach.

I can't believe you actually think that. So teaching, football, baseball, and now this. To me it's just too much. No principal I have ever seen puts in the time and effort most coaches do. They work later, put in more hours on weekends, and they are at it year around. I don't know any principal that does that. I am only speaking about the successful programs, we all know that some coaches don't do jack and just take their 1,500 bucks and head to the house. Shawn actually does I think, and this will be too much. It's just my opinion though, you can have yours as well.

[BigBlueNation]

I was never questioning his integrity or that he wasn't the best option for this job. If I did make it sound that way I didn't mean to. The only thing I was/am concerned with is the fact that he not only coaches football, but is the Head Coach for the baseball team, who is a very competitive team every year and it takes year around to develop that. I just think he has too much on his plate, that's all.


Shawn doesn't coach football at all. Baseball games don't start (they do practice/condition I know) until after basketball season is 99% completed. He is a good guy, a fair guy, and will do a great job. Just wait and see...give him a shot. I promise you if he can't get the job done, no one will need to tell him that! He will step down himself. Just my opinion....

[JackRabbitSlim]

Shawn doesn't coach football at all. Baseball games don't start (they do practice/condition I know) until after basketball season is 99% completed. He is a good guy, a fair guy, and will do a great job. Just wait and see...give him a shot. I promise you if he can't get the job done, no one will need to tell him that! He will step down himself. Just my opinion....

Yes he did. He coached middle school football this past season.

[BigBlueNation]

Yes he did. He coached middle school football this past season.

Did and Do are two different things. I think it was stated that he "does" now and that is not true. Nevertheless, I'm sure he could handle middle school football as well. Shawn is the assigning secretary and a head baseball coach, period!

[IntheZone]

Another great example of how politics runs our athletic department in the mountains.

how this is the first time some one from pike county hasnt gotten in in 26 years!!!!

[kyfan]

You know, somebody has to do this job. It would be very difficult to find somebody who has no ties whatsoever with a particular school. Shawn is/was an excellent official. This job should be done by someone who has officiating experience who can help younger officials. I have yet to see an assigning secretary blow the whistle to decide a game. Most people are making a much bigger deal than is necessary. How can the A.S. help schools? By giving them the better officials? Look around, you can practically count the good officials on one hand.

[JackRabbitSlim]

Did and Do are two different things. I think it was stated that he "does" now and that is not true. Nevertheless, I'm sure he could handle middle school football as well. Shawn is the assigning secretary and a head baseball coach, period!

Haha! Well if your going to go at it like that, I state that he "coached" football, which is used in the past tense. So if I did say that in the first post I corrected it in the second. haha

[JackRabbitSlim]

how this is the first time some one from pike county hasnt gotten in in 26 years!!!!

Is that true? That is unbelievable. If that is true than I will change my comment and competely support him because I love when people rock the boat, and I bet that really killed the people from Pikeville.

[FOX SPORTS]

This thread started as a "Congrats to Shawn Hall" on his new 2nd job as assigning secretary for ALL the 15th Region.

I would love to see everyone back off, wish him congrats and good luck, and let him do his job.

All this bickering over whether a coach or athletic director should be assigning is really boring.

And why does EVERY thread end up being about politics within the region???

Anyone interested in making officiating in the 15th Region better???
Why not start making phone calls and help Shawn recruit new officials??
Why not encourage some young former players to get registered??

Recruiting, training, scheduling, and evaluating...there is plenty of work to be done.
It is not an easy job.
Good Luck Shawn Hall

[longball]

PREACH IT BROTHER< I totally agree with Fox. This site could be great, however, it seems most people want to hide behind a fake name and cause problems. I would be willing to bet the farm that the people who are bashing Shawn on here, suck uo to him in person. Dont want this to be another negative post, therefore, Good Luck Shawn. Believe it or not you have people that are backing you and inside the officials world they are ALL happy you got the job. You are a great man and will restore honor and respect to 15th region basketball officials!!

[JackRabbitSlim]

This thread started as a "Congrats to Shawn Hall" on his new 2nd job as assigning secretary for ALL the 15th Region.

I would love to see everyone back off, wish him congrats and good luck, and let him do his job.

All this bickering over whether a coach or athletic director should be assigning is really boring.

And why does EVERY thread end up being about politics within the region???

Anyone interested in making officiating in the 15th Region better???
Why not start making phone calls and help Shawn recruit new officials??
Why not encourage some young former players to get registered??

Recruiting, training, scheduling, and evaluating...there is plenty of work to be done.
It is not an easy job.
Good Luck Shawn Hall


I can agree with that. The 15th region has some of the worst officials in the state. I actually heard from another umpire/referee that the districts in the region are going to have to get umpires from around the state to help out with the tournaments because there is only 8 officials that can do baseball in the 15th region as far as the tournaments go. Do you know anything about that?

[FOX SPORTS]

I can agree with that. The 15th region has some of the worst officials in the state.
I disagree...The 15th Region has a numbers problem, not enough good officials.

Maybe we should start a recruiting thread, for ALL sports.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I dont know him personally, but I would like to give congrats to my new boss.

[Greenrock]

Mr. Hall is my HERO................It's going to work out fine.

[Chuck Taylor]

Why all the hate for Pike Co.?

My guess is two words...Paul Dotson...

[OutsideLogic]

Coach Hall will do a fine job as assigning secretary. He is a good honest person and hopefully he will remember that as he does his job.