View Full Version : Pikeville's Devan Adams to Shelby Valley
play_maker
06-01-2008, 09:49 PM
whats the scoop
If...Then
06-01-2008, 09:50 PM
the scoop is, that i was told he will be attending Valley for 2009 because he said he wants to go to state and get recognized. Where Pikeville is beginning to lose there talent
I wish the best of luck to Devan wherever he may go
BlackcatAlum
06-01-2008, 10:05 PM
If this is true then best of luck to Devan, he should be able to play a big role at Valley next season.
PLAYBOY5
06-01-2008, 10:10 PM
If true, then I truly believe that valley could play with anyone in the state! A big man is what this team lacked when playing Central/Western Ky schools! Best of Luck to Devan and to Valley!
BlackcatAlum
06-01-2008, 10:14 PM
If true, then I truly believe that valley could play with anyone in the state! A big man is what this team lacked when playing Central/Western Ky schools! Best of Luck to Devan and to Valley!
I agree!
Raider_Nation09
06-01-2008, 10:55 PM
good luck to Deven where ever he goes Dev is a good person and he is very talented
RavenBoy
06-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Who is Devan Adams??
BlackcatAlum
06-01-2008, 11:03 PM
Who is Devan Adams??
Pikeville's 6'8 center.
RavenBoy
06-01-2008, 11:07 PM
Pikeville's 6'8 center.Yea that will help SV out alot.
thepharmacist
06-01-2008, 11:28 PM
Rumor has it he may be academically ineligible.
Mr.Kimball
06-01-2008, 11:30 PM
What about Taylor Newsome? Will he be healthy enough to play?
uhavenoidea
06-01-2008, 11:34 PM
What about Taylor Newsome? Will he be healthy enough to play?
He just got the OK to Jog on it here recently, so he should be fine come late Nov-early Dec....
SpyDa
06-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I'm glad to hear that about Taylor. He is a good kid.
Adams might make a good 8th man or so behind Taylor, Kirby and Tyler.
uhavenoidea
06-02-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm glad to hear that about Taylor. He is a good kid.
Adams might make a good 8th man or so behind Taylor, Kirby and Tyler.
Are you serious?:)
-STAT-
06-02-2008, 12:09 AM
That would be huge for Valley if he does indeed transfer.
Warlock
06-02-2008, 01:39 AM
Never be ruled eligible.Does anyone know if his family moved? I guess a better question would be did he officially enroll at Shelby Valley?
Panther Thunder
06-02-2008, 02:38 AM
If he goes I don't think he will start. Maybe the 6th man. The grass isn't always greener. This could be a blessing in disguise for Pikeville. Who knows?
FOX SPORTS
06-02-2008, 07:25 AM
This is a rumor thread and it is not the first time it has been started here.
His dad is on the site, maybe we can get some clarification.
Reminder: If you start a rumor thread with no justification to do so and it proves to be false, you are subject to suspension. Read the rules...NO FALSE Information.
SpyDa
06-02-2008, 08:31 AM
Are you serious?:)
I'm very serious! Whose starting position do you think he'll take? At the most, he may come off the bench and help a little. That wouldn't be the kind of recognition I'd want as a senior! I agree totally, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
runninrebs21
06-02-2008, 01:21 PM
If adams goes to valley, i seriously doubt him starting. He played weak last year for pikeville. You can't teach height, but he just seems lazy. He will have to work hard to even get on the floor at Valley cause they do nothing but run. I see him being the 7th or 8th man if he goes.
alleycat53
06-02-2008, 01:22 PM
I'm very serious! Whose starting position do you think he'll take? At the most, he may come off the bench and help a little. That wouldn't be the kind of recognition I'd want as a senior! I agree totally, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Valley lost their 2 leading rebounders and leading scorer.
Panther Thunder
06-02-2008, 01:48 PM
Valley lost their 2 leading rebounders and leading scorer.
You think he can play the same style as Jonah or Jacob?
JackRabbitSlim
06-02-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think it will matter because I don't think the kid will get eligible, but even if he did, I don't think he can help a team that runs so much. He'll have a hard time adjusting to the style.
PC_You_Know
06-02-2008, 04:10 PM
To add to this rumor thread, I have heard Devan's parents are buying a house in Virgie, which wouldn't that make him eligible because he will be moving out of the Pikeville INDEPENDENT School District?
FOX SPORTS
06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
To add to this rumor thread, I have heard Devan's parents are buying a house in Virgie, which wouldn't that make him eligible because he will be moving out of the Pikeville INDEPENDENT School District?A legitimate change of residence would make him eligible in most cases.
IRISH4
06-02-2008, 04:20 PM
If he chooses to leave Pikeville then the best of luck to him, yes he would be playing for a regional championship there...but as far as recruiting goes I know for a fact Morehead was recruiting him pretty hard last season....that is a D-1 school, nothing against the kid but I don't think a major D-1 (SEC, Pac-10, Big-10, etc) will be beating the door down if he goes to Valley. He is a good player with potential, but I'd stay somewhere I could be the star....might not be enough basketballs to go around at SV.
alleycat53
06-02-2008, 05:45 PM
You think he can play the same style as Jonah or Jacob?
No! but surely he can contribute.
uhavenoidea
06-02-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm very serious! Whose starting position do you think he'll take? At the most, he may come off the bench and help a little. That wouldn't be the kind of recognition I'd want as a senior! I agree totally, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Well at the beginning of the season he may not start, but i see him starting after a few games.
Id say this will be the starting lineup for the first few games, and if Deven plays the way he should, he will step right in...
Starters
Elisha
Logan
Ashley
Taylor- If he is his old self
Kirby/Deven...IMO Dev will take this spot after a few games...
Bench
Deven A./Kirby
Tyler N.
Cody V.
letthebighogroot
06-02-2008, 08:17 PM
Best of luck to the kid whatever he choses to do. Who knows, if he goes to Valley they might get out of the region.
BlueSky
06-02-2008, 08:32 PM
Is winning all anyone thinks about in High School? Are there no other things of importance. Do any of these players ever think of anyone but themselves. Is there no longer those that have team loyality. I guess he can and will do whatever he wants, because that is where we are now. I just wish more people understood there is so much more to athletics than winning a regional. It is fun and great, but in the long scheme of things it will always be a game. A game that for some will that teach leadership, loyality, honestly, and so many other great attributes for later in life. I love High School sports as much as anyone, but I try so hard to think about the real lessons of growing up......
letthebighogroot
06-02-2008, 08:51 PM
Is winning all anyone thinks about in High School? Are there no other things of importance. Do any of these players ever think of anyone but themselves. Is there no longer those that have team loyality. I guess he can and will do whatever he wants, because that is where we are now. I just wish more people understood there is so much more to athletics than winning a regional. It is fun and great, but in the long scheme of things it will always be a game. A game that for some will that teach leadership, loyality, honestly, and so many other great attributes for later in life. I love High School sports as much as anyone, but I try so hard to think about the real lessons of growing up......
Unfortunately nowadays its mostly a matter of parents pimping their kids out, putting them in situations where they will be successful. Hardwork and loyalty are dirty words.
To add to this rumor thread, I have heard Devan's parents are buying a house in Virgie, which wouldn't that make him eligible because he will be moving out of the Pikeville INDEPENDENT School District?
Whats causing the move then?
New job?
Investigation will be happening, and they will get on here and look at post, and see where DEVANS DAD has posted on threads that Pikeville is a better school in his mind for his kid academically........so why leave?
This will get nasty and I do no think he will be ruled eligible.
Lots of people looking in the 15th right now for some shady goings on.....in girls and boys.
Panther Thunder
06-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Unfortunately nowadays its mostly a matter of parents pimping their kids out, putting them in situations where they will be successful. Hardwork and loyalty are dirty words.POST OF THE YEAR!
HollaBack
06-02-2008, 09:39 PM
This is the year to get eligible because the KHSAA has had a lot of pressure to make kids eligible
A few examples:
Chad Jackson and Dakota Euton to Scott Co. for basketball reasons (comments even from parents in Lexington Herald Leader) and ruled eligible
Vinny Zollo is moving to a Ky high school to be named later and will be eligible
Tate Cox ruled eligible and did not move.
THIS WILL BE A FUNNY AND INTERESTING THREAD because Shelby Valley's rivals and people who don't want to see them win will act like Adams can't play, won't start, or won't be ruled eligible.
On the other hand, Shelby Valley fans and people who want to see mountain teams compete on a statewide level and maybe win a state championship will be all for the move.
The bottom line is with the addition of Adams, who many consider a top 3-5 player in the 15th region, Shelby Valley now becomes a state contender for both the All "A" and the Sweet 16. There are many good teams out there, but it gives them a chance.
Side note: Colleges want to know if posts can play up and down the floor. If Shelby Valley does run like you all say, then it will give him a chance to prove to the coaches he can do it.
This is the year to get eligible because the KHSAA has had a lot of pressure to make kids eligible
A few examples:
Chad Jackson and Dakota Euton to Scott Co. for basketball reasons (comments even from parents in Lexington Herald Leader) and ruled eligible
Vinny Zollo is moving to a Ky high school to be named later and will be eligible
Tate Cox ruled eligible and did not move.
THIS WILL BE A FUNNY AND INTERESTING THREAD because Shelby Valley's rivals and people who don't want to see them win will act like Adams can't play, won't start, or won't be ruled eligible.
On the other hand, Shelby Valley fans and people who want to see mountain teams compete on a statewide level and maybe win a state championship will be all for the move.
The bottom line is with the addition of Adams, who many consider a top 3-5 player in the 15th region, Shelby Valley now becomes a state contender for both the All "A" and the Sweet 16. There are many good teams out there, but it gives them a chance.
Side note: Colleges want to know if posts can play up and down the floor. If Shelby Valley does run like you all say, then it will give him a chance to prove to the coaches he can do it.
Tate Cox matter not closed.
Those others moved long distances, even if it was for basketball. The Adams will only move at most 20 miles if they live in the Pikeville school district, but I think they live in Floyd County which raises more concerns.
I do not trust the KHSAA 100% but I can tell you from conversations with others that the 15th is being looked at hard right now because of the debacle that is the 59/60th district saga, the Phelps girls transfers, a county AD doing things he shouldn't, and now this.
Chuck Taylor
06-02-2008, 10:36 PM
Never be ruled eligible.
family owns land in the Virgie area. Pikeville AD will not block move...
I started a thread earlier about him playing pickup with Shelby Valley players...It was closed...:confused:
504 boy
06-02-2008, 10:36 PM
Tate Cox matter not closed.
Those others moved long distances, even if it was for basketball. The Adams will only move at most 20 miles if they live in the Pikeville school district, but I think they live in Floyd County which raises more concerns.
I do not trust the KHSAA 100% but I can tell you from conversations with others that the 15th is being looked at hard right now because of the debacle that is the 59/60th district saga, the Phelps girls transfers, a county AD doing things he shouldn't, and now this.
well trust me he doesnt live in floyd co... i dont see where that came from
family owns land in the Virgie area. Pikeville AD will not block move...
I started a thread earlier about him playing pickup with Shelby Valley players...It was closed...:confused:
Does not matter anymore, used to be if the former school didn't nothing would be said but not now......
well trust me he doesnt live in floyd co... i dont see where that came from
I thought I read it on here. So they live in the Pikeville City limits?
Chuck Taylor
06-02-2008, 10:43 PM
Best of luck to the kid whatever he choses to do. Who knows, if he goes to Valley they might get out of the region.
Help never hurts...:blondnurs
504 boy
06-02-2008, 10:44 PM
I thought I read it on here. So they live in the Pikeville City limits?
yea he lives about half a mile from pikeville high school
Chuck Taylor
06-02-2008, 10:57 PM
the scoop is, that i was told he will be attending Valley for 2009 because he said he wants to go to state and get recognized. Where Pikeville is beginning to lose there talent
I wish the best of luck to Devan wherever he may go
I feel that the coaching staff never used Devan like they should have...
Now add this fact...the Panthers coaching staff wants to speed up the offense with more of a three point aspect...
I don't blame Adams...:mad:
BasketBallonlyfan
06-02-2008, 11:21 PM
Ok, I think things are getting way out of hand on this thread. People are posting things that they don't have any idea about. So I am going to clear it up with this post. Deven's mom and myself are purchasing a home at Long fork close to my parents house. People that know my parents would understand the move. Those who don't know them or myself, I don't care what they think. As of this moment, we are living in the Shelby Valley school district. Deven is still enrolled in the Pikeville Ind. School system. Pikeville is a funny place. You can go to school here if you live outside the district if you pay tuition. Am I saying he will be at PHS next year for school? No I am not saying that just the same as I am not saying he will be at Shelby Valley. Where he will attend school next year has not been decided at the moment.
One post said he would be academically ineligible. They may have said it was a rumor. Who did you hear the rumor from? Surely employees at PHS know better than to discuss a students grades to someone who would post it on the net. He will be academically eligible at whichever school he attends. Other comments that I think deserve a good laugh would be the one that said he lived in Floyd Co. My family for the last three years lived in the city limits of Pikeville. A year and a half in the city, and for the last year and half or so at Keyser Heights. Before that, our address was Long fork of Virgie. The same property we are moving back to but a different house as mine burnt down a few months ago. He did attend school in Floyd Co. for 8 years but we never lived there.
It was said and quoted that this is a game, and there are more important lessons to be learned. Leadership, loyalty, and honesty, what about knowing what is going on before you judge someone on what is the real reasons besides what you think you know. If you knew the whole story, and why the move was happening, you would know that those three words are being followed. Pimping kids out? Not even close. Like I said, if you all hiding behind user names on the net want to know the real reason for the move, get out behind a screen and ask me face to face and I will tell you. But not on a web forum.
Ok, I think things are getting way out of hand on this thread. People are posting things that they don't have any idea about. So I am going to clear it up with this post. Deven's mom and myself are purchasing a home at Long fork close to my parents house. People that know my parents would understand the move. Those who don't know them or myself, I don't care what they think. As of this moment, we are living in the Shelby Valley school district. Deven is still enrolled in the Pikeville Ind. School system. Pikeville is a funny place. You can go to school here if you live outside the district if you pay tuition. Am I saying he will be at PHS next year for school? No I am not saying that just the same as I am not saying he will be at Shelby Valley. Where he will attend school next year has not been decided at the moment.
One post said he would be academically ineligible. They may have said it was a rumor. Who did you hear the rumor from? Surely employees at PHS know better than to discuss a students grades to someone who would post it on the net. He will be academically eligible at whichever school he attends. Other comments that I think deserve a good laugh would be the one that said he lived in Floyd Co. My family for the last three years lived in the city limits of Pikeville. A year and a half in the city, and for the last year and half or so at Keyser Heights. Before that, our address was Long fork of Virgie. The same property we are moving back to but a different house as mine burnt down a few months ago. He did attend school in Floyd Co. for 8 years but we never lived there.
It was said and quoted that this is a game, and there are more important lessons to be learned. Leadership, loyalty, and honesty, what about knowing what is going on before you judge someone on what is the real reasons besides what you think you know. If you knew the whole story, and why the move was happening, you would know that those three words are being followed. Pimping kids out? Not even close. Like I said, if you all hiding behind user names on the net want to know the real reason for the move, get out behind a screen and ask me face to face and I will tell you. But not on a web forum.
I'll be sure to talk to you next time I see you out or at a game. We have talked before but only briefly at Belfry.
thepharmacist
06-03-2008, 12:21 AM
Ok, I think things are getting way out of hand on this thread. People are posting things that they don't have any idea about. So I am going to clear it up with this post. Deven's mom and myself are purchasing a home at Long fork close to my parents house. People that know my parents would understand the move. Those who don't know them or myself, I don't care what they think. As of this moment, we are living in the Shelby Valley school district. Deven is still enrolled in the Pikeville Ind. School system. Pikeville is a funny place. You can go to school here if you live outside the district if you pay tuition. Am I saying he will be at PHS next year for school? No I am not saying that just the same as I am not saying he will be at Shelby Valley. Where he will attend school next year has not been decided at the moment.
One post said he would be academically ineligible. They may have said it was a rumor. Who did you hear the rumor from? Surely employees at PHS know better than to discuss a students grades to someone who would post it on the net. He will be academically eligible at whichever school he attends. Other comments that I think deserve a good laugh would be the one that said he lived in Floyd Co. My family for the last three years lived in the city limits of Pikeville. A year and a half in the city, and for the last year and half or so at Keyser Heights. Before that, our address was Long fork of Virgie. The same property we are moving back to but a different house as mine burnt down a few months ago. He did attend school in Floyd Co. for 8 years but we never lived there.
It was said and quoted that this is a game, and there are more important lessons to be learned. Leadership, loyalty, and honesty, what about knowing what is going on before you judge someone on what is the real reasons besides what you think you know. If you knew the whole story, and why the move was happening, you would know that those three words are being followed. Pimping kids out? Not even close. Like I said, if you all hiding behind user names on the net want to know the real reason for the move, get out behind a screen and ask me face to face and I will tell you. But not on a web forum.
I meant to say athletically not academically sorry thanks for clearing up my error
Panther Thunder
06-03-2008, 12:45 AM
I will say something I've said before. It is an honor to wear the Pikeville uniform. An honor many, including myself, would kill to do. If you don't want to wear the maroon and white, and I mean truly WANT to then don't. There are too many cases now of people switching schools just for the heck of it, cause it might help them get noticed. Trust me if you are good enough and care enough you will get noticed. It's sad because what do you do once you get out of high school? What do you claim as your school?
I just feel like if you don't want to be where you are then leave. Don't be on the fence, it gives the impression that you're saying, "Hey, I'm better than you and I have the power to choose what your fate will be. I want attention so, I'm going to make everyone wait and see what I do."
If I was a coach I wouldn't put up with it for a second. I would say, good luck and have your locker cleaned out by tomorrow. The level of transfers is getting ridiculous. No one will stay put, because they are never happy. It's all about ME ME AND ME. For once, I wish someone would think about the team they represent instead of worrying about No.1. At this point if half the rumors are true, he may as well leave. Who wants to play with a guy that basically is telling the team, you guys aren't good enough so I'm going to try to leave? If not getting the ball was a problem before, if people do what they should, he would only touch it after he gets a rebound.
If the change was for a reason other than purely athletics and it is a family issue than that's one thing. But as of now that's not what I've heard. I know summer practices are starting soon, maybe already have. So, what's he doing? Holding out? Waiting for the highest Bidder? Because if a decision isn't made soon he may not start at either Pikeville or SV. I hope he makes the right choice for him, and he doesn't regret it.
alfus21
06-03-2008, 05:29 AM
If the change was for a reason other than purely athletics and it is a family issue than that's one thing. But as of now that's not what I've heard. I know summer practices are starting soon, maybe already have. So, what's he doing? Holding out? Waiting for the highest Bidder? Because if a decision isn't made soon he may not start at either Pikeville or SV. I hope he makes the right choice for him, and he doesn't regret it.
What you've heard is from what source Thunder? Compared to the one source who truly knows what is going on who spoke a couple of posts ago.
The guy said that the move was from family issues. A move that would economically make sense for many families seeing as how much the gas would cost to Pikeville plus the tuition to go there living out of the city. Not everybody can pull that as easy as many Pikeville athletes have in the past and still do.
I'm not saying it's good or bad for Adams to go to Shelby Valley because only time would tell that, but don't make the kid out to be the bad guy when he is just doing what is best for him and from what is being said, the best for his family.
Either way, sour grapes are pretty evident here from several traditional Pikeville posters who otherwise wouldn't give squat about a transfer. It's not that big of a deal, or as big as many of you are making it out to be.
FOX SPORTS
06-03-2008, 07:17 AM
If the change was for a reason other than purely athletics and it is a family issue than that's one thing.
I hope he makes the right choice for him, and he doesn't regret it.
You obviously don't know why the move...leave the kid alone.
Family is BIGGER than school.
I'm confident in saying this move was not just for athletics.
JackRabbitSlim
06-03-2008, 08:52 AM
I will say something I've said before. It is an honor to wear the Pikeville uniform. An honor many, including myself, would kill to do. If you don't want to wear the maroon and white, and I mean truly WANT to then don't. There are too many cases now of people switching schools just for the heck of it, cause it might help them get noticed. Trust me if you are good enough and care enough you will get noticed. It's sad because what do you do once you get out of high school? What do you claim as your school?
I just feel like if you don't want to be where you are then leave. Don't be on the fence, it gives the impression that you're saying, "Hey, I'm better than you and I have the power to choose what your fate will be. I want attention so, I'm going to make everyone wait and see what I do."
If I was a coach I wouldn't put up with it for a second. I would say, good luck and have your locker cleaned out by tomorrow. The level of transfers is getting ridiculous. No one will stay put, because they are never happy. It's all about ME ME AND ME. For once, I wish someone would think about the team they represent instead of worrying about No.1. At this point if half the rumors are true, he may as well leave. Who wants to play with a guy that basically is telling the team, you guys aren't good enough so I'm going to try to leave? If not getting the ball was a problem before, if people do what they should, he would only touch it after he gets a rebound.
If the change was for a reason other than purely athletics and it is a family issue than that's one thing. But as of now that's not what I've heard. I know summer practices are starting soon, maybe already have. So, what's he doing? Holding out? Waiting for the highest Bidder? Because if a decision isn't made soon he may not start at either Pikeville or SV. I hope he makes the right choice for him, and he doesn't regret it.
What's so funny about this is if Pikeville was getting a 6'8" transfer student that was moving in because of family issues, they would be all over anybody that would condem them for transferring. However, because it is one of their own that is moving(because of family issues)from the ever prestiguise Pikeville High School, it becomes this conspiracy theory about why he is truly leaving. I think all you guys who are making this kid out to be a bad guy should take a step back and actually figure out the facts before you start running your mouth. Or just continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
jetpilot
06-03-2008, 09:08 AM
You obviously don't know why the move...leave the kid alone.
Family is BIGGER than school.
I'm confident in saying this move was not just for athletics.
I'm not. Unless the family thinks the academics are better at SV. The father already said the kid went to school in Floyd Co. for 8 years but never lived there. So the short drive to Pikeville from Virgie shouldn't be a problem if the family thought Pikeville had better academics. Sorry, I could be missing something, but it doesn't pass the smell test.
Having said that, if the kid goes, fine, if he stays that's fine too.
jetpilot
06-03-2008, 09:32 AM
What's so funny about this is if Pikeville was getting a 6'8" transfer student that was moving in because of family issues, they would be all over anybody that would condem them for transferring. However, because it is one of their own that is moving(because of family issues)from the ever prestiguise Pikeville High School, it becomes this conspiracy theory about why he is truly leaving. I think all you guys who are making this kid out to be a bad guy should take a step back and actually figure out the facts before you start running your mouth. Or just continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.:)
FOX SPORTS
06-03-2008, 09:39 AM
There are a lot of insinuations and accusations being made in this thread.
Please do not violate any rules when posting here
This thread is being watched VERY closely!!!
FOX SPORTS
06-03-2008, 09:40 AM
Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.:)
What was funny ???
The statement or the misspelling???
Capt. DH
06-03-2008, 09:40 AM
My opinion is that he is leaving because he wants to make it out of district and have a chance to win region and go to state. That will never happen at Pikeville in basketball. I would leave Pikeville to play basketball at SV too. It also happens that some of you didn't read his fathers post about family reasons being why they moved. But he never said if his son was going to transfer. Nobody knows that for sure except for him and his family. SV would be stacked next year if he goes and I believe he would get more playing time than some wildcats may want. From a basketball standpoint Pikeville will never be SV and from a football standpoint SV will never be Pikeville. The coaching and the kids just aren't there at Pikeville for them to succeed in basketball. I know people say that DPM is a good coach, and he may be, but I do not know one basketball player at Pikeville that likes him. That being the case, good luck getting those kids to go all out for you. My last point is to Devan and his family, good luck at whatever you decide to do!
jetpilot
06-03-2008, 09:48 AM
What was funny ???
The statement or the misspelling???
The misspelling while trying to dog the school. I think you know I think Pikeville is the top school around.
venom93
06-03-2008, 09:49 AM
Are we talking about the same Deven that looks winded after warmups before the game?? Good luck to the Globe Trotters with this pickup.
jetpilot
06-03-2008, 09:52 AM
My opinion is that he is leaving because he wants to make it out of district and have a chance to win region and go to state. That will never happen at Pikeville in basketball. I would leave Pikeville to play basketball at SV too. It also happens that some of you didn't read his fathers post about family reasons being why they moved. But he never said if his son was going to transfer. Nobody knows that for sure except for him and his family. SV would be stacked next year if he goes and I believe he would get more playing time than some wildcats may want. From a basketball standpoint Pikeville will never be SV and from a football standpoint SV will never be Pikeville. The coaching and the kids just aren't there at Pikeville for them to succeed in basketball. I know people say that DPM is a good coach, and he may be, but I do not know one basketball player at Pikeville that likes him. That being the case, good luck getting those kids to go all out for you. My last point is to Devan and his family, good luck at whatever you decide to do!
I agree with just about everything you said, except the DPM part. This thread is not about him. He is not even the head coach at Pikeville. And I know a lot of people that like him. That part of your post sounds like a personal beef.
FOX SPORTS
06-03-2008, 09:56 AM
The misspelling while trying to dog the school. I think you know I think Pikeville is the top school around.:) Yeah, it was funny!
Panther Thunder
06-03-2008, 11:27 AM
If the change was for a reason other than purely athletics and it is a family issue than that's one thing. If it is family reasons, it is different. I guess no one read that part. I'm just going on what I've heard. Until something is proven, no one knows.
JackRabbitSlim
06-03-2008, 01:35 PM
:) Yeah, it was funny!
prestigious!
Excuse me if I was in a hurry.
BlueSky
06-03-2008, 01:56 PM
As I have said before on other threads, we need to be thankful for the good men and women we have coaching our kids. For the most part they really try to help prepare them for much more than sports. We should not be putting others down who are in there trying. What does it really matter if Pikeville or anyone else is not as good a SV in basketball, everyone has their own strengths. Just hope no one treats you and your program the same as you have just done........ I do understand we sometimes say things without really thinking them through. Lets stick with the part of wishing everyone the best whatever happens........
Capt. DH
06-03-2008, 01:57 PM
I agree with just about everything you said, except the DPM part. This thread is not about him. He is not even the head coach at Pikeville. And I know a lot of people that like him. That part of your post sounds like a personal beef.
I am glad that you agree with most of my post. I have no personal beef with DPM. I just stated what I hear from the kids and what I see out of his belligerent self.
Midee1
06-03-2008, 02:00 PM
prestigious!
Excuse me if I was in a hurry. I am certain you have never misspelled anything in your life, and I only hope that one day I can somehow find a way to be as perfect as you are.
Classy bunch on here....
I see a bit of a double standard here.
You can dish it out with the best of them but it seems to get under your skin if someone gets you.
Learn to take as much as you give and life will be much happier on here. :)
BlueSky
06-03-2008, 02:05 PM
I really do not believe you heard a word of what I said unless it was what you wanted to hear.
JackRabbitSlim
06-03-2008, 02:09 PM
I see a bit of a double standard here.
You can dish it out with the best of them but it seems to get under your skin if someone gets you.
Learn to take as much as you give and life will be much happier on here. :)
Are you serious? When have I made fun of someone for misspelling something?
Midee1
06-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Are you serious? When have I made fun of someone for misspelling something?
I don't recall you picking on someone about spelling but I do seem to recall many times you picking on someone that you see as having less knowledge about a subject than you do.
Picking on you about spelling is the exact same thing.
Lighten up. Some people take forums way to seriously.
JackRabbitSlim
06-03-2008, 02:17 PM
I don't recall you picking on someone about spelling but I do seem to recall many times you picking on someone that you see as having less knowledge about a subject than you do.
Picking on you about spelling is the exact same thing.
Lighten up. Some people take forums way to seriously.
It's not that I took it serious, I just thought it was a cheap shot. I don't intentially say anything to someone unless they bring it on, and you know that. Unless I have ever called someone out on spelling then no, it isn't the same thing. It's fine though, forget it.
Midee1
06-03-2008, 02:23 PM
It's not that I took it serious, I just thought it was a cheap shot. I don't intentially say anything to someone unless they bring it on, and you know that. Unless I have ever called someone out on spelling then no, it isn't the same thing. It's fine though, forget it.
Very good suggestion.
Now keep the thread on topic.
I will go on record that I absolutely hate these silly rumor threads. I cannot count how many times someone has started rumor threads just to stir the pot.
In the future if someone starts a rumor thread without something to back it up there will be suspensions handed out.
Here is rule 8 to remind everyone.
8. Posting false or incorrect information will not be tolerated. If you are unaware of something such as a score or any information regarding a certain topic, then do not post it until sure. False threads and posts will be deleted and you will be warned.
Final note JRS this is not directed at you. I just got on a roll and didn't see the need to make several posts.
thepharmacist
06-03-2008, 02:44 PM
I am glad that you agree with most of my post. I have no personal beef with DPM. I just stated what I hear from the kids and what I see out of his belligerent self.
I'm glad the kids have you to confide in but it's pretty juvenile for you to make unnecessary comments about people, don't you think?
BlueSky
06-03-2008, 03:04 PM
The Pharmacist has written the right prescription.
Panther Thunder
06-03-2008, 03:11 PM
I'm glad the kids have you to confide in but it's pretty juvenile for you to make unnecessary comments about people, don't you think?Espcially, when in a small community like this the people you are talking about could see it easily. Right?
BlueSky
06-03-2008, 03:23 PM
Yes, I guess it is not rocket science........
Capt. DH
06-03-2008, 03:40 PM
I am glad that you agree with most of my post. I have no personal beef with DPM. I just stated what I hear from the kids and what I see out of his belligerent self.
also, referring to my last post, i have never met DPM, i was just stating things I've heard from different players and parents.
Capt. DH
06-03-2008, 04:04 PM
If anyone has anything to say to me on this topic, feel free to pm me.
FOX SPORTS
06-03-2008, 04:14 PM
This thread needs to be ON TOPIC NOW or it will be closed.
UKRULES
06-04-2008, 11:02 PM
This was Deven's father earlier in another thread::
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Deven has been going to Shelby Valleys open gym. He likes the players there. It is just open gym. Nothing to worry about and most certainly nothing to have a whole thread about.
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Wonder if things have changed??? There are those things that make you go hmmmmmmm........
Panther Thunder
06-05-2008, 02:00 AM
Maybe not so honest with himself or others???????
what a tangled web we weave.
jetpilot
06-05-2008, 06:51 AM
Maybe not so honest with himself or others???????
bingo
crazyfan4
06-05-2008, 07:54 AM
Man quit banging on this kid and his father. If he wants to go to another school let him. NO BIG DEAL! Its his decision, not none of your alls.
asdfasdf
06-05-2008, 05:56 PM
D. Adams sighting at North Hardin today, playing WITH Shelby Valley... came off the bench, btw, not that it matters in summer league
Panther Thunder
06-05-2008, 09:29 PM
Man quit banging on this kid and his father. If he wants to go to another school let him. NO BIG DEAL! Its his decision, not none of your alls.OK then make the dang decision! Don't sit around and act like you have all the power. And by saying not none, are you implying it is our decision? Two negatives make a positive =).
Panther Thunder
06-05-2008, 09:32 PM
I wouldn't play him at Pikeville if he did come back, He is already missing practices.
PC_You_Know
06-05-2008, 11:35 PM
I really don't see Adams back at Pikeville. Devan is on Valley's summer league roster, so he's not getting in sync with the Pikeville team. If he does attend Valley, WOW, look out this coming year, they will be one of the best teams to come through eastern kentucky in a long time.
JackRabbitSlim
06-05-2008, 11:45 PM
I really don't see Adams back at Pikeville. Devan is on Valley's summer league roster, so he's not getting in sync with the Pikeville team. If he does attend Valley, WOW, look out this coming year, they will be one of the best teams to come through eastern kentucky in a long time.
I agree they have a really good shot at making some noise at RUPP!
BballFan25
06-06-2008, 01:01 AM
Well, I think it wouldn't benefit Adams much or Valley much for him to go there. I think this would be kind of like Shaq was in Phoenix this year. They are a running team that wins because they just out hustle teams and run fast breaks, so tell me how Adams would fit in to that. He wasn't that affective in a slow down game, I don't see him even being the slightest bit affective when its run 'n gun. I hope I'm wrong because I would like to see Valley go to state and do good down there, but I think they'll be just as good without him. The one thing he can bring to Valley is shot blocking, but they are already so great at defense, I don't think it would be worth having him out there because he would slow them down. But good luck to Devan and whatever he does decides to do.
mjballer23
06-06-2008, 09:18 PM
Well, I think it wouldn't benefit Adams much or Valley much for him to go there. I think this would be kind of like Shaq was in Phoenix this year. They are a running team that wins because they just out hustle teams and run fast breaks, so tell me how Adams would fit in to that. He wasn't that affective in a slow down game, I don't see him even being the slightest bit affective when its run 'n gun. I hope I'm wrong because I would like to see Valley go to state and do good down there, but I think they'll be just as good without him. The one thing he can bring to Valley is shot blocking, but they are already so great at defense, I don't think it would be worth having him out there because he would slow them down. But good luck to Devan and whatever he does decides to do.
Yea but thats the NBA. this is highschool basketball how many kids do u know thats that tall. I think its a great oppurtunity for Shelby Valley to be even more dominant with a kid with that size.
If...Then
06-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Pikeville's 6'8 center.
6'10 ;)
If...Then
06-06-2008, 11:11 PM
Coach Williams said at our practices that he was a tough loss down low but its not like college where u can make a phone call and say "hey we need a center here at PHS, why dont you come and play" but that we will have to work with what we got.
I think Pikeville is almost all speedy guards. So if Shelby Valley has 4 quick strong players, then Pikevilles 5th on Devan will haved to out hustle him to get the boards and score some points for PHS
Bart Williams always has something up his sleeves-
BasketBallonlyfan
06-06-2008, 11:24 PM
This was Deven's father earlier in another thread::
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Deven has been going to Shelby Valleys open gym. He likes the players there. It is just open gym. Nothing to worry about and most certainly nothing to have a whole thread about.
__________________
Wonder if things have changed??? There are those things that make you go hmmmmmmm........
Maybe not so honest with himself or others???????
Has it ever crossed you mind that when the post was made by UKRULES, maybe there wasnt a decision made at that time?
Well, I think it wouldn't benefit Adams much or Valley much for him to go there. I think this would be kind of like Shaq was in Phoenix this year. They are a running team that wins because they just out hustle teams and run fast breaks, so tell me how Adams would fit in to that. He wasn't that affective in a slow down game, I don't see him even being the slightest bit affective when its run 'n gun. I hope I'm wrong because I would like to see Valley go to state and do good down there, but I think they'll be just as good without him. The one thing he can bring to Valley is shot blocking, but they are already so great at defense, I don't think it would be worth having him out there because he would slow them down. But good luck to Devan and whatever he does decides to do.
I think he did a pretty good job of running with them the last couple days.
Chuck Taylor
06-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Well, I think it wouldn't benefit Adams much or Valley much for him to go there. I think this would be kind of like Shaq was in Phoenix this year. They are a running team that wins because they just out hustle teams and run fast breaks, so tell me how Adams would fit in to that. He wasn't that affective in a slow down game, I don't see him even being the slightest bit affective when its run 'n gun. I hope I'm wrong because I would like to see Valley go to state and do good down there, but I think they'll be just as good without him. The one thing he can bring to Valley is shot blocking, but they are already so great at defense, I don't think it would be worth having him out there because he would slow them down. But good luck to Devan and whatever he does decides to do.
Shelby Valley can run and gun. But in the big games they play smart basketball with many set plays. Devan and Shelby Valley will benefit when they play teams down state.
My guess is that Coach Booher will know how to use Devan...something Pikeville could never figure out...
Old Timer
06-07-2008, 11:02 AM
Is it that Pikeville never figured it out OR the players wouldn't execute what they were coached to???
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 11:04 AM
Has it ever crossed you mind that when the post was made by UKRULES, maybe there wasnt a decision made at that time?
I think he did a pretty good job of running with them the last couple days.
I must say that you have handled all of the unwarranted criticism that has been on here with a lot of class. I dont know you or your son, but if he is half as classy as you have been (again by what I read here), then you have a very fine son. It would be hard for any of us to stand back and let someone critsize one of our own sons, and not retort back.
BlueSky
06-07-2008, 11:07 AM
According to the ones at Shelby Valley the decision was made a long time ago. Its just part of lessons of life. Sometimes people shown great interest in others, work very hard for them, and then when it is time they to really collect the benefits they let someone share in them..... Doing the right thing is not an option in our society anymore. We have had same problem in 14th...
BlueSky
06-07-2008, 11:15 AM
It is strange that all we heard was how good SV is going to be before Devin. They would run away with region and be the best team in the mountains, and compete down state. And now all I am hearing is what a difference he is going to make, and now SV will really be good. When it is all said and done, it will be the intangibles the kids learn that will matter. Coachs will win with talent and lose without. They can help make a great a little less great, and a poor team a little better. But what a great opportunity they have to teach so much else. May we all encourage them to do this. From here to there good luck to all.....
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 11:38 AM
Coach Williams said at our practices that he was a tough loss down low but its not like college where u can make a phone call and say "hey we need a center here at PHS, why dont you come and play" but that we will have to work with what we got.
I think Pikeville is almost all speedy guards. So if Shelby Valley has 4 quick strong players, then Pikevilles 5th on Devan will haved to out hustle him to get the boards and score some points for PHS
Bart Williams always has something up his sleeves-Let's face it, next year Pikeville will be a run and gun, pressing, three-point shooting, transition basketball team. So if Deven is playing, he will have to be guarding a guard. So Valley would have to go zone with him in the game, something not to do against good shooting teams. As for SV on offense, We will just have to double down and use our quickness to steal the ball or knock it loose. Pikeville should have decent depth with Evans (who could make a huge impact this year). So fouls can be spread around and shouldn't be a big issue. Either way both Parties are probably better with the move.
BlueSky
06-07-2008, 12:11 PM
He probably not fit in at Hazard, but I do not believe we would turn him down.. It is hard to teach 6'10"....... About the coaches at Pikeville not using him right, I find that pretty hard to believe when I saw there stats last year. I do remember from friends in Floyd talking about how much this kid had improved. As I continue to say, our coaches in the mountains do a good job with these kids. I am sure the best they can. Unless we are right there for each and every pratice and game, there is no way we can make a sound judgement. Just thankful I do not coach.....
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 02:39 PM
I must say that you have handled all of the unwarranted criticism that has been on here with a lot of class. I dont know you or your son, but if he is half as classy as you have been (again by what I read here), then you have a very fine son. It would be hard for any of us to stand back and let someone critsize one of our own sons, and not retort back.
:) And that's all I've got to say about that. Pikeville's coaching staff did a great job with this kid and they are the ones who have handled this situation with class.
One more thing people won't like, and then I am out...
Trading a Pikeville education and diploma for a better chance to play a game or two at Rupp Arena will look incredibly stupid two years from now.
That's all, I'm out.:D
BlueSky
06-07-2008, 03:08 PM
jetpilot, I believe you broke the sound barrier with that.... And from where I am flying I understand.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 03:26 PM
:) And that's all I've got to say about that. Pikeville's coaching staff did a great job with this kid and they are the ones who have handled this situation with class.
One more thing people won't like, and then I am out...
Trading a Pikeville education and diploma for a better chance to play a game or two at Rupp Arena will look incredibly stupid two years from now.
That's all, I'm out.:D:thumpsup:
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 04:17 PM
I feel sorry for this kid. He has taken so much flack from people on here, who hardly anything about what's really going on. Shelby Valley will find ways to use him. You have to when you have someone that big. Pikeville will be hurting without him, but that's life, and things like this happen. I went to high school with a kid who went to 3 different high schools in 4 years because his dad couldn't get along with any of the coaches, and somehow he was eligible every year, but he took a lot of flack from his community as well, and no one ever looked at him the same. It is a shame that this kid isn't going to be able to make a smooth transfer without everyone voicing their opinion on the negative side of it. The Pikeville faithful will say he wasn't that good anyway, he'll never play for them, and what a terrible person he is for leaving, but I bet you a million to one that if he decided to come back they would welcome him with open arms. However, at this point, and from what all has been said, if I were him I wouldn't dare go back. I wish him all the luck in the world because he is certainly going to be scrutinized for every little thing.
BasketBallonlyfan
06-07-2008, 04:50 PM
I feel sorry for this kid. He has taken so much flack from people on here, who hardly anything about what's really going on. Shelby Valley will find ways to use him. You have to when you have someone that big. Pikeville will be hurting without him, but that's life, and things like this happen. I went to high school with a kid who went to 3 different high schools in 4 years because his dad couldn't get along with any of the coaches, and somehow he was eligible every year, but he took a lot of flack from his community as well, and no one ever looked at him the same. It is a shame that this kid isn't going to be able to make a smooth transfer without everyone voicing their opinion on the negative side of it. The Pikeville faithful will say he wasn't that good anyway, he'll never play for them, and what a terrible person he is for leaving, but I bet you a million to one that if he decided to come back they would welcome him with open arms. However, at this point, and from what all has been said, if I were him I wouldn't dare go back. I wish him all the luck in the world because he is certainly going to be scrutinized for every little thing.
Thank you for this post. I think this is a funny thread to read. All these people talking about things the KNOW but it is only something they have heard from someone else or read on here. I wouldnt care to bet that half the people on here that post about stuff they KNOW have not ever even talked to him or me about it. But they still know every reason why or how or when everything happens.
504 boy
06-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Let's face it, next year Pikeville will be a run and gun, pressing, three-point shooting, transition basketball team. So if Deven is playing, he will have to be guarding a guard. So Valley would have to go zone with him in the game, something not to do against good shooting teams. As for SV on offense, We will just have to double down and use our quickness to steal the ball or knock it loose. Pikeville should have decent depth with Evans (who could make a huge impact this year). So fouls can be spread around and shouldn't be a big issue. Either way both Parties are probably better with the move.
you cannot honestly say that pikeville is better off with the move, it will be another disappointing for the panthers
BballFan25
06-07-2008, 05:29 PM
Let's face it, next year Pikeville will be a run and gun, pressing, three-point shooting, transition basketball team. So if Deven is playing, he will have to be guarding a guard. So Valley would have to go zone with him in the game, something not to do against good shooting teams. As for SV on offense, We will just have to double down and use our quickness to steal the ball or knock it loose. Pikeville should have decent depth with Evans (who could make a huge impact this year). So fouls can be spread around and shouldn't be a big issue. Either way both Parties are probably better with the move.
You gotta have good shooters to be a 3 pt shooting team. Pikeville has none. Most teams played zone this year against them, so i see the same for next year. If you are trying to say that losing devan won't hurt pikeville, your crazy. If he is worked with, and can fit into Valley's system, i see him getting a good scholarship and helping Valley alot. I just hope that happens. But devan was very important to pikeville and without him they wouldn't have been half as good as they were last year. Even though his stats might not have been great every game, he intimidated other teams and other teams had to adjust to his height. Without him, everyone will just collapse on Matt Clevenger and that kills pikeville. So good luck Devan in whatever you decide to do.
slingblade93
06-07-2008, 05:47 PM
You gotta have good shooters to be a 3 pt shooting team. Pikeville has none. Most teams played zone this year against them, so i see the same for next year. If you are trying to say that losing devan won't hurt pikeville, your crazy. If he is worked with, and can fit into Valley's system, i see him getting a good scholarship and helping Valley alot. I just hope that happens. But devan was very important to pikeville and without him they wouldn't have been half as good as they were last year. Even though his stats might not have been great every game, he intimidated other teams and other teams had to adjust to his height. Without him, everyone will just collapse on Matt Clevenger and that kills pikeville. So good luck Devan in whatever you decide to do.
Great post. Pikeville was only going to be a fair team at best next year with Adams.
Without him it will be a long year. But pikeville fans need to leave the kid alone and not blame him for his decision to play somewhere else. If it's not going to hurt you with him leaving then why make all the negative comments. Good luck Devan and I for one hope you have a fantastic senior season where ever you decide to play.
SpyDa
06-07-2008, 06:01 PM
My opinion is that he is leaving because he wants to make it out of district and have a chance to win region and go to state. That will never happen at Pikeville in basketball. I would leave Pikeville to play basketball at SV too. It also happens that some of you didn't read his fathers post about family reasons being why they moved. But he never said if his son was going to transfer. Nobody knows that for sure except for him and his family. SV would be stacked next year if he goes and I believe he would get more playing time than some wildcats may want. From a basketball standpoint Pikeville will never be SV and from a football standpoint SV will never be Pikeville. The coaching and the kids just aren't there at Pikeville for them to succeed in basketball. I know people say that DPM is a good coach, and he may be, but I do not know one basketball player at Pikeville that likes him. That being the case, good luck getting those kids to go all out for you. My last point is to Devan and his family, good luck at whatever you decide to do!
Comparing Football and the perception of success in that sport to success in basketball is like comparing apples to oranges. It is much more difficult to win a regional basketball championship than a regional football championship in most any year.
As for coaching, Pikeville's Basketball coaches have plenty of skills, wins, knowledge, state tournament experience etc to win at this level. Talk with people who really know the game. Some people like to make wild statements when they really have no clue or maybe they have a slight clue and have an agenda that includes destroying basketball altogether at PHS. Why else would you try and blames Adams leaving on the coaches. Sad
new o
06-07-2008, 06:13 PM
I have read this pretty close and to be honest Adams is making a good move. He will get to play one on one in the post because of SV's perimeter, he will be soon by college coaches due to schedule and he will be a big impact on both ends. Too many young people on here play the blame game when in reality it is his decision. Good luck Devan and hang tough. P.S. A diploma is the same at all schools, colleges do not turn you down if it does not say Pikeville on it. Trust me on this one.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 06:21 PM
Comparing Football and the perception of success in that sport to success in basketball is like comparing apples to oranges. It is much more difficult to win a regional basketball championship than a regional football championship in most any year.
As for coaching, Pikeville's Basketball coaches have plenty of skills, wins, knowledge, state tournament experience etc to win at this level. Talk with people who really know the game. Some people like to make wild statements when they really have no clue or maybe they have a slight clue and have an agenda that includes destroying basketball altogether at PHS. Why else would you try and blames Adams leaving on the coaches. Sad
Regardless of what sport you are talking about Pikeville had a down year all together. Football went 9-4 with a very mediocre schedule. Those wins came against very weak opponents, and the quality teams they did play beat them very easily. Basketball had a mediocre year as well. It was Paintsville and Shelby Valley's year in that sport. Baseball was a failure as well. Pikeville use to own the 15th region in baseball and now they struggle even winning the district tournament. They were 19-12, and that was playing one of the weakest schedules in the region. The got smoked in the first round of the regional tournament. Not too mention they went into the regional tournament as a loser. It has been a very down year for the boys sports at Pikeville, and it may be a few years before they are able to even come close to building anything back up. I honestly do not blame any kid that wants to transfer to a school that can win, and I don't think anyone should knock him for doing so.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 06:25 PM
Well now this is the bash Pikeville thread. But once again what ever happened to Loyalty? What happened to Pride? If it comes down to being all about winning anywhere else, and losing at Pikeville, I'll take the latter everyday for the rest of my life.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Regardless of what sport you are talking about Pikeville had a down year all together. Football went 9-4 with a very mediocre schedule. Those wins came against very weak opponents, and the quality teams they did play beat them very easily. Basketball had a mediocre year as well. It was Paintsville and Shelby Valley's year in that sport. Baseball was a failure as well. Pikeville use to own the 15th region in baseball and now they struggle even winning the district tournament. They were 19-12, and that was playing one of the weakest schedules in the region. The got smoked in the first round of the regional tournament. Not too mention they went into the regional tournament as a loser. It has been a very down year for the boys sports at Pikeville, and it may be a few years before they are able to even come close to building anything back up. I honestly do not blame any kid that wants to transfer to a school that can win, and I don't think anyone should knock him for doing so.That's a ignorant statement. You can't help the district, but non-district was a traditional power schedule.
slingblade93
06-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Well now this is the bash Pikeville thread. But once again what ever happened to Loyalty? What happened to Pride? If it comes down to being all about winning anywhere else, and losing at Pikeville, I'll take the latter everyday for the rest of my life.
I guess you don't have any other choices, so just because Adams has skills then don't blame him for taking advantage of them and playing somewhere else. College isn't free by no means so if he can better his chances to get a free scholarship then I say go for it. When he graduates he has to worry about his future not the future of the high school he just left. If anyone in his shoes were honest about their choices of just playing for loyalty sake or having a much better chance to go to play in the state tournament they would have to choose the latter. Remember he is not the only kid to have ever transfered from one high school team to another. Again good luck Devan.
More Cowbell
06-07-2008, 06:40 PM
I must say that you have handled all of the unwarranted criticism that has been on here with a lot of class. I dont know you or your son, but if he is half as classy as you have been (again by what I read here), then you have a very fine son. It would be hard for any of us to stand back and let someone critsize one of our own sons, and not retort back.
I was just getting ready to say the same thing, but you already did it. Great post. :Clap:
More Cowbell
06-07-2008, 06:50 PM
P.S. A diploma is the same at all schools, colleges do not turn you down if it does not say Pikeville on it. Trust me on this one.
You might have trouble convincing some people on here of that, but thanks for saying what needed to be said. My H.S. diploma didn't say Pikeville either, and I believe I have done pretty well for myself.
Now please, let this be the end of comparing which school has better academics. If you want to discuss class offerings or test scores, create a new thread in the off-topic forum. But, if you want to discuss how this potential transfer might affect each team next year, then by all means post on this thread.
MaroonMonsoon77
06-07-2008, 06:54 PM
Regardless of what sport you are talking about Pikeville had a down year all together. Football went 9-4 with a very mediocre schedule. Those wins came against very weak opponents, and the quality teams they did play beat them very easily. Basketball had a mediocre year as well. It was Paintsville and Shelby Valley's year in that sport. Baseball was a failure as well. Pikeville use to own the 15th region in baseball and now they struggle even winning the district tournament. They were 19-12, and that was playing one of the weakest schedules in the region. The got smoked in the first round of the regional tournament. Not too mention they went into the regional tournament as a loser. It has been a very down year for the boys sports at Pikeville, and it may be a few years before they are able to even come close to building anything back up. I honestly do not blame any kid that wants to transfer to a school that can win, and I don't think anyone should knock him for doing so.
Excuse me, but i do believe everyone that Pikeville lost to went to the state championship in their own class (ecxpet P-burg who went to the semi's I THINK)...how can you say anything when they only lost to the eventual 4-A state champion, 3-A state runner up (undefeted until state championship game), 2-A semifinalist, and the 1-A state runner up, so dont you dare critizie their non district schedule and them losing to those quality teams.
pillsburythrowboy
06-07-2008, 07:01 PM
:) And that's all I've got to say about that. Pikeville's coaching staff did a great job with this kid and they are the ones who have handled this situation with class.
One more thing people won't like, and then I am out...
Trading a Pikeville education and diploma for a better chance to play a game or two at Rupp Arena will look incredibly stupid two years from now.
That's all, I'm out.:D
And its quotes like this that turn it into a Pikeville bashing thread. Devin can get a good education any where he wants to go in our county. Its just the ******** comments like these that **** people off.
bball fan
06-07-2008, 07:01 PM
Regardless of what sport you are talking about Pikeville had a down year all together. Football went 9-4 with a very mediocre schedule. Those wins came against very weak opponents, and the quality teams they did play beat them very easily. Basketball had a mediocre year as well. It was Paintsville and Shelby Valley's year in that sport. Baseball was a failure as well. Pikeville use to own the 15th region in baseball and now they struggle even winning the district tournament. They were 19-12, and that was playing one of the weakest schedules in the region. The got smoked in the first round of the regional tournament. Not too mention they went into the regional tournament as a loser. It has been a very down year for the boys sports at Pikeville, and it may be a few years before they are able to even come close to building anything back up. I honestly do not blame any kid that wants to transfer to a school that can win, and I don't think anyone should knock him for doing so.
Most kids would kill to play sports at a school that does this:
Football 9-4
Basketball 16-12
Baseball 19-12
....and you call it "mediocre". Sure it wasn't a great year for Pikeville, but how about you post the records of any other school from the 15th region and compare them to these numbers. I would say it is hard to find better records in all 3 sports and remember the Panthers were "down" this year!
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Well now this is the bash Pikeville thread. But once again what ever happened to Loyalty? What happened to Pride? If it comes down to being all about winning anywhere else, and losing at Pikeville, I'll take the latter everyday for the rest of my life.
As far as basketball is concerned I think the "Pride Factor" would weigh more heavily in Shelby Valley's court. Other than in the Chase Gibson years, Pikeville has not been much in basketball for the last 20-25 years. If Adams went to Pikeville all 4 years, do you really think that the first year after he graduated that any person associated with the Pikeville school system would give a crap either way about him? Loyalty from any school system ususally involves a "What are you doing for me now" mentality. Kudos for the Adams family for doing what they think is best for their son. They have done nothing to damage the Pikeville basketball program. I'm sure he put it all on the line 100% every day in practice and in the games since he has been there. If that is the case then whatever debt that was owed Pikeville for their sweat and tears was repaid in full. He owes them nothing.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 08:09 PM
Well now this is the bash Pikeville thread. But once again what ever happened to Loyalty? What happened to Pride? If it comes down to being all about winning anywhere else, and losing at Pikeville, I'll take the latter everyday for the rest of my life.
Perhaps Devon has the same say so in where he goes to school, much in the same manner that you do yourself. Which looks like it is none. I do believe that you are enrolled in one of the other local PHS schools yourself that is not geographicly located in Pike County if I am not mistaken. Where's your own loyalty and pride?
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Most kids would kill to play sports at a school that does this:
Football 9-4
Basketball 16-12
Baseball 19-12
....and you call it "mediocre". Sure it wasn't a great year for Pikeville, but how about you post the records of any other school from the 15th region and compare them to these numbers. I would say it is hard to find better records in all 3 sports and remember the Panthers were "down" this year!Right off the top of my head I can think of Belfry and Johnson Central that has them outclassed if you want to talk about all 3 sports.
BasketBallonlyfan
06-07-2008, 08:19 PM
I want to end a couple other rumors that is started. Deven does not have a problem with any of the coaches at Pikeville. Bart, DPM, Todd, and Lee, neither is problem. I cant speak for the other players on the team, but Dev like DPM very well. But I guess everyone knows his favorite coach was Todd.
Panther Thunder, where do you go to school?
MaroonMonsoon77
06-07-2008, 08:24 PM
Right off the top of my head I can think of Belfry and Johnson Central that has them outclassed if you want to talk about all 3 sports.
OUTCLASSED?? Thats ridiculous, Pikeville has just as much CLASS as belfry and johnson central if not more, dont talk about class, thats insane.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 08:30 PM
Right off the top of my head I can think of Belfry and Johnson Central that has them outclassed if you want to talk about all 3 sports.
:thatsfunn
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 08:32 PM
OUTCLASSED?? Thats ridiculous, Pikeville has just as much CLASS as belfry and johnson central if not more, dont talk about class, thats insane.
Uhhhh. Try reading the terminology in which the statement was made before you jump off the deep end.:rolleyes:
When it came to how each schools season went went it came to the 3 sports that you mentioned, Belfry and Johnson Central both outclassed them in terms of success. There can be no question about that.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 08:39 PM
:thatsfunn
What have you got to laugh about there sonnyboy? Show me where Pikeville outdid either one of those schools in any sport this year.
Johnson Central: Regional runner up boys basketball, Girls basketball regional champs, district champs and regional runner's up in football (ranked #5 in all of Class 5A at one point) , baseball district runner's up.
Belfry: district champs in basketball, state runner's up in football, regional runner's up in basketball.
What did Pikeville do in comparison in each respective sport? Not squat that I can think of.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Panther Thunder, where do you go to school
That was the same question that I asked.
Most kids would kill to play sports at a school that does this:
Football 9-4
Basketball 16-12
Baseball 19-12
....and you call it "mediocre". Sure it wasn't a great year for Pikeville, but how about you post the records of any other school from the 15th region and compare them to these numbers. I would say it is hard to find better records in all 3 sports and remember the Panthers were "down" this year!
Belfry
Football 14-1 State Runner-up
Basketball 15-15 , since Coach Casey has taken over they have went, 18-10 Region Runner-up, 21-9, 24-8 and lost to the eventual region champ in every region tourney.
Baseball 22-11 Region Runner-up
HAIL PIKEVILLE!
06-07-2008, 08:44 PM
I wish Devan and his family all the best. I think hes found out what alot of folks around here have known for years. That is if you wanna be the best you can be in B-ball go to Valley. If you wanna do the same in Football or Baseball(Not to mention a better education) you go to Pikeville.
HAIL PIKEVILLE!
06-07-2008, 08:50 PM
Belfry
Football 14-1 State Runner-up
Basketball 15-15 , since Coach Casey has taken over they have went, 18-10 Region Runner-up, 21-9, 24-8 and lost to the eventual region champ in every region tourney.
Baseball 22-11 Region Runner-up
Thats all fine and good and Belfry dserves a pat on the back for the success they acheived. But it wasnt that long ago that Belfry went an entire decade and didnt win a region title in football. Im not putting down Belfry at all Ive always respected them. Im just making a point that every good and tradition rich program like Pikeville and Belfry go through down periods but they always find a way to get back on top like Belfry has and Pikeville is well on the way to.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 08:56 PM
What have you got to laugh about there sonnyboy? Show me where Pikeville outdid either one of those schools in any sport this year.
Johnson Central: Regional runner up boys basketball, Girls basketball regional champs, district champs and regional runner's up in football (ranked #5 in all of Class 5A at one point) , baseball district runner's up.
Belfry: district champs in basketball, state runner's up in football, regional runner's up in basketball.
What did Pikeville do in comparison in each respective sport? Not squat that I can think of.
Belfry and Johnson Central couldn't play dead in baseball or basketball this year. Spin it as success all you want. As for football, Pikeville was regional runners up in football just like JC, but we consider it a bad year and you call it "success". Belfry is good in football right now, and a big part of it is all the kids from WV coming over because the schools are so bad in that part of WV. The truth is, Pikeville has had more success in sports over the years than either JC or Belfry, with a fraction of the students.
OT: Now, let's start a thread on CATS scores. ;)
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 08:58 PM
Excuse me, but i do believe everyone that Pikeville lost to went to the state championship in their own class (ecxpet P-burg who went to the semi's I THINK)...how can you say anything when they only lost to the eventual 4-A state champion, 3-A state runner up (undefeted until state championship game), 2-A semifinalist, and the 1-A state runner up, so dont you dare critizie their non district schedule and them losing to those quality teams.
All you did was prove my point. The only quality teams they had on their schedule beat them. Every single good team on their schedule beat them handily. They actually beat them by a combined score of 159-39. The teams they won against were a combined 27-57. Not exactly beating the cream of the crop. So yes they beat mediocre to less than mediocre teams, and I agreed with you they were beat by good teams, but that was my point. They were not a good team, and the only teams they were competitive against had a combined record of 27-57.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 09:02 PM
Panther Thunder, where do you go to school
That was the same question that I asked.
I want to end a couple other rumors that is started. Deven does not have a problem with any of the coaches at Pikeville. Bart, DPM, Todd, and Lee, neither is problem. I cant speak for the other players on the team, but Dev like DPM very well. But I guess everyone knows his favorite coach was Todd.
Panther Thunder, where do you go to school?
:Thumbs: Wow you caught me! :Thumbs:
I think both of you know the answer to that question, so why present it? To make yourselves feel better about yourselves? I have no control over it, so I do what I think I do what I can. BTW it isn't like you unlocked a hidden secret to who I am, I'm positive anyone who cares enough to know, knows. If my opinions on the subject or others bother you so much then tell me, but don't try to act like your so high and mighty.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 09:02 PM
Belfry and Johnson Central couldn't play dead in baseball or basketball this year. Spin it as success all you want. As for football, Pikeville was regional runners up in football just like JC, but we consider it a bad year and you call it "success". Belfry is good in football right now, and a big part of it is all the kids from WV coming over because the schools are so bad in that part of WV. The truth is, Pikeville has had more success in sports over the years than either JC or Belfry, with a fraction of the students.
OT: Now, let's start a thread on CATS scores. ;)
You obviously have never watched a baseball game in the 15th region. Johson Central went to Applebees Park 2 out of the previous 4 years, and won the region just a year ago. They knocked off Paintsville in this year's district tournament and eventually lost to Belfry. Speaking of Belfry, they won their district, knocked off JC, and ended up getting beat by Lawrence County in the regional finals this year, and LC is still playing. JC will be a very good team in basketball this year, and if they don't get on the same side of the bracket, they will be playing SV for the region this year.
And if you wanted to start a thread on CATS scores then I think JC would have you there as well.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:10 PM
You obviously have never watched a baseball game in the 15th region. Johson Central went to Applebees Park 2 out of the previous 4 years, and won the region just a year ago. They knocked off Paintsville in this year's district tournament and eventually lost to Belfry. Speaking of Belfry, they won their district, knocked off JC, and ended up getting beat by Lawrence County in the regional finals this year, and LC is still playing. JC will be a very good team in basketball this year, and if they don't get on the same side of the bracket, they will be playing SV for the region this year.
And if you wanted to start a thread on CATS scores then I think JC would have you there as well.
The first part, again, JC and Belfry couldn't play dead in baseball and basketball this year. Fact. CATS scores, you would be wrong in a big way.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Belfry and Johnson Central couldn't play dead in baseball or basketball this year. Spin it as success all you want. As for football, Pikeville was regional runners up in football just like JC, but we consider it a bad year and you call it "success". Belfry is good in football right now, and a big part of it is all the kids from WV coming over because the schools are so bad in that part of WV. The truth is, Pikeville has had more success in sports over the years than either JC or Belfry, with a fraction of the students.
OT: Now, let's start a thread on CATS scores. ;) Oh really, JC was regional runner's up in basketball, and Belfry was regional runner's up in baseball.
As far as Pikeville in baseball they has about a good 6 or 7 year run, nothing prior and nothing since. JC has been to Applebees twice in the last 5 years, I dont think that Pikeville has ever been there. Is that not correct?
OK lets see Daniel Harmon, transferred from Virgie, and the Honakers from Betsy Layne and then you want to talk about Belfry transfers? Face it Pikeville has lived and died with transfers over the years. Little bit different world in Class 5A there sport.
As far as CATS scores, they dont do too badly themselves. Uh, I believe they have what now about 5 straight state middle school Governors Cups.
But anyways I thought the conversation was about 2008, wasn't it?
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 09:14 PM
The first part, again, JC and Belfry couldn't play dead in baseball and basketball this year. Fact. CATS scores, you would be wrong in a big way.Closer than what you think. You better check on that one.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 09:17 PM
The first part, again, JC and Belfry couldn't play dead in baseball and basketball this year. Fact. CATS scores, you would be wrong in a big way.
You are obviously a kid or a very immature adult because you can't comprehend facts very well. If you make a statement like this atleast be able to back it up. Both were region runner-ups in those sports. You have no basis or facts to stand by that statement so give it up.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:19 PM
Oh really, JC was regional runner's up in basketball, and Belfry was regional runner's up in baseball.
As far as Pikeville in baseball they has about a good 6 or 7 year run, nothing prior and nothing since. JC has been to Applebees twice in the last 5 years, I dont think that Pikeville has ever been there. Is that not correct?
OK lets see Daniel Harmon, transferred from Virgie, and the Honakers from Betsy Layne and then you want to talk about Belfry transfers? Face it Pikeville has lived and died with transfers over the years. Little bit different world in Class 5A there sport.
As far as CATS scores, they dont do too badly themselves. Uh, I believe they have what now about 5 straight state middle school Governors Cups.
But anyways I thought the conversation was about 2008, wasn't it?
JC's CATS scores are way below Pikeville's, and also below Belfry, SV, and Phelps.
Middle school and elementary school scores are below Pikeville as well...
One more time, I don't care about regional runner ups, the 15th is horrible right now...I'll post some scores from the highly successful Belfry and JC baseball and basketball programs in a minute...
The King
06-07-2008, 09:19 PM
Belfry is good in football right now, and a big part of it is all the kids from WV coming over because the schools are so bad in that part of WV.
I find this very ironic coming from a Pikeville fan given that Pikeville's best players are not originally from Pikeville.... Daniel Harmon, Tim Honaker, Ted Honaker, Chaz Jackson...
And also this thread is about a player that was not originally from Pikeville. I didn't see all of you Pikeville people putting Devan down for not showing "loyalty" to South Floyd...
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 09:21 PM
You are obviously a kid or a very immature adult because you can't comprehend facts very well. If you make a statement like this atleast be able to back it up. Both were region runner-ups in those sports. You have no basis or facts to stand by that statement so give it up.Well here is a fact, Neither had to play any dominate teams, or any close to great teams to be region runner ups in those sports. So while it may look good, It fails in comparison to runner ups from many other regions. No t saying Pikeville was any better just stating facts.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 09:32 PM
JC's CATS scores are way below Pikeville's, and also below Belfry, SV, and Phelps.
Middle school and elementary school scores are below Pikeville as well...
One more time, I don't care about regional runner ups, the 15th is horrible right now...I'll post some scores from the highly successful Belfry and JC baseball and basketball programs in a minute...
Then how come Pikeville has no Governor's Cups then flyboy? Johnson Central has a state dynasty going, not just a regional one.
You can quote regular season scores till doomsday. They dont mean a thing. All regular season games are, are practice for the post season, and JC has dominated Pikeville in that respect every year for the past 5 years. JC has not played little league teams in the regular season like Pikeville has.
Just so you know, Pikeville's baseball sucess lives and dies on however their summer coach can develope them. I have though it hilarious how Chris Lawson got the glory when someone else developed his players, and as far as Proide, can you say nincompoop?
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:35 PM
You are obviously a kid or a very immature adult because you can't comprehend facts very well. If you make a statement like this atleast be able to back it up. Both were region runner-ups in those sports. You have no basis or facts to stand by that statement so give it up.
Find me ONE decent team Belfry or JC beat in baseball or basketball. You can't do it. Johnson Central played a tough schedule in baseball like they do every year, I'll give them that. But they had a losing record did not beat ONE decent team. Belfry didn't beat a decent team either. In basketball they were both horrible, end of story. As bad as the 15th is right now, if you think being regional runner up makes you a good team, the joke's on you.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 09:36 PM
Let's sum things up. Pikeville is never going to be good at sports again, and JC will always be. And Summer baseball is the devil. :thumpsup: Seriously though JC will be good in baseball and basketball for a couple years, but this past year neither of those sports were spectacular.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:38 PM
Then how come Pikeville has no Governor's Cups then flyboy? Johnson Central has a state dynasty going, not just a regional one.
You can quote regular season scores till doomsday. They dont mean a thing. All regular season games are, are practice for the post season, and JC has dominated Pikeville in that respect every year for the past 5 years. JC has not played little league teams in the regular season like Pikeville has.
Just so you know, Pikeville's baseball sucess lives and dies on however their summer coach can develope them. I have though it hilarious how Chris Lawson got the glory when someone else developed his players, and as far as Proide, can you say nincompoop?
You need to get out more, lol...Pikeville has Governor's Cups. But that's only a few students, and test scores are a better indicator of academics.
And I like the baseball coach, for a Johnson Co. boy, that is...Seriously, you are calling people names on here. Shame.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 09:40 PM
JC's CATS scores are way below Pikeville's, and also below Belfry, SV, and Phelps.
Middle school and elementary school scores are below Pikeville as well...
One more time, I don't care about regional runner ups, the 15th is horrible right now...I'll post some scores from the highly successful Belfry and JC baseball and basketball programs in a minute...
Actually you are dead wrong! I just looked it up in the database and Pikeville Independent had an overall academic rating of 95.1, and Johnson County(which has more schools and hundreds of more students) had an overall academic rating of 90.1. That is not way below. It is below only because Pikeville has hundreds and hundreds less students that are counted in the CATS scoring. Not too mention Pikeville has 80% less special education students who are accounted for. So if you wanted to put it on a weighted scale then Johnson County has way better CATS scores.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 09:47 PM
Find me ONE decent team Belfry or JC beat in baseball or basketball. You can't do it. Johnson Central played a tough schedule in baseball like they do every year, I'll give them that. But they had a losing record did not beat ONE decent team. Belfry didn't beat a decent team either. In basketball they were both horrible, end of story. As bad as the 15th is right now, if you think being regional runner up makes you a good team, the joke's on you.
Find me one that Pikeville has beat? By the way, Johnson Central beat Paintsville and GRC this year and played Lawrence County, who is one of the best teams in the state, to a 1-0 loss at LC. Belfry beat JC! Not too mention Pikeville was beaten this year by Pike Central(almost a mercy rule) and East Ridge in baseball.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:49 PM
Then how come Pikeville has no Governor's Cups then flyboy? Johnson Central has a state dynasty going, not just a regional one.
You can quote regular season scores till doomsday. They dont mean a thing. All regular season games are, are practice for the post season, and JC has dominated Pikeville in that respect every year for the past 5 years. JC has not played little league teams in the regular season like Pikeville has.
Just so you know, Pikeville's baseball sucess lives and dies on however their summer coach can develope them. I have though it hilarious how Chris Lawson got the glory when someone else developed his players, and as far as Proide, can you say nincompoop?
Pikeville is 7-4 against JC from 2003 to the present...
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 09:52 PM
Let's sum things up. Pikeville is never going to be good at sports again, and JC will always be. And Summer baseball is the devil. :thumpsup: Seriously though JC will be good in baseball and basketball for a couple years, but this past year neither of those sports were spectacular. Maybe it was the devil, because you had a different coach. I throughly enjoy it.
They will only be as good in baseball as how well their summer coach can develope them, and that's a fact. Perhaps if they get rid of Proide, and put some else in that has a clue. Nobody said they were spectacular, but if you go back to the original post that got all of this started, Pikeville has definately been outclassed by them and Belfry for the year 2008. Noything can be said that will contradict that.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 09:52 PM
Find me one that Pikeville has beat? By the way, Johnson Central beat Paintsville and GRC this year and played Lawrence County, who is one of the best teams in the state, to a 1-0 loss at LC. Belfry beat JC! Not too mention Pikeville was beaten this year by Pike Central(almost a mercy rule) and East Ridge in baseball.
Well by your logic, East Ridge hung in with the region runner-up Belfry, therefore the ER loss isn't a bad one.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 09:52 PM
Actually you are dead wrong! I just looked it up in the database and Pikeville Independent had an overall academic rating of 95.1, and Johnson County(which has more schools and hundreds of more students) had an overall academic rating of 90.1. That is not way below. It is below only because Pikeville has hundreds and hundreds less students that are counted in the CATS scoring. Not too mention Pikeville has 80% less special education students who are accounted for. So if you wanted to put it on a weighted scale then Johnson County has way better CATS scores.
LOL! You get an A for fuzzy math, F for logic, F for facts...since an A in fuzzy math is the worst score you can get, your post overall gets a D-. The only positive is entertainment value.:)
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 09:57 PM
Maybe it was the devil, because you had a different coach. I throughly enjoy it.
They will only be as good in baseball as how well their summer coach can develope them, and that's a fact. Perhaps if they get rid of Proide, and put some else in that has a clue. Nobody said they were spectacular, but if you go back to the original post that got all of this started, Pikeville has definately been outclassed by them and Belfry for the year 2008. Noything can be said that will contradict that.It so happends that a lot of other players that go to JC, Lawrence Co., and Belfry have all been afiliated with a traveling team from Pikeville. So, could it be said that their success relies on Summer ball? I mean, you know as well as anyone that if you are serious about ANY sport you will play it in the offseson to improve. In baseball, there is little coaches can do with no off-season practice to improve to the needed levels that football and basketball coaches get. Do you think SV basketball would be where it is without AAU?
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 09:57 PM
LOL
I agree it is funny. It is funny that the arrogance that is portrayed sometimes on these sites is really just a derailing effect of stupidity.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:00 PM
LOL! You get an A for fuzzy math, F for logic, F for facts...since an A in fuzzy math is the worst score you can get, your post overall gets a D-. The only positive is entertainment value.:)
Actually it is very easy math because they simply put your score beside of the school district, but I understand that sometimes people must post things like this when they are proven wrong.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:03 PM
Pikeville is 7-4 against JC from 2003 to the present...
Do you know how to read? You must not have been present when those CATS tests were being administered because it surely would have drove the test averages down.:) .... I said in the post season. Since 2003 Pikeville is 0-3 against Johnson Central in the post season. Those are the only season games that mean a hill of beans.
Panther Thunder
06-07-2008, 10:03 PM
Am I the only one wandering how this is still open lol? We went from Adams to Pikeville vs. Belfry and JC.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:08 PM
Do you know how to read? You must not have been present when those CATS tests were being administered.:) I said in the post season. Since 2003 Pikeville is 0-3 against Johnson Central in the post season. Those are the only season games that mean a hill of beans.
LOL spin it any way you want. Cograts to JC for their tremendous success in sports in 2008. Keep working hard and you can continue to have your present success - a losing record in baseball, horrible in basketball, and regional runner up in football...
:)
JC should scrap athletics and try to improve their academics...:D
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:10 PM
It so happends that a lot of other players that go to JC, Lawrence Co., and Belfry have all been afiliated with a traveling team from Pikeville. So, could it be said that their success relies on Summer ball? I mean, you know as well as anyone that if you are serious about ANY sport you will play it in the offseson to improve. In baseball, there is little coaches can do with no off-season practice to improve to the needed levels that football and basketball coaches get. Do you think SV basketball would be where it is without AAU? I believe that schools such as Lawrence Co. and Johnson Central have summer teams that are both coached by their high school coaches as well.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:10 PM
Am I the only one wandering how this is still open lol? We went from Adams to Pikeville vs. Belfry and JC.
Yes we should keep this on topic. Congrats to Adams for transferring to a school with higher test scores than JC.:notworthy
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:12 PM
LOL spin it any way you want. Cograts to JC for their tremendous success in sports in 2008. Keep working hard and you can continue to have your present success - a losing record in baseball, horrible in basketball, and regional runner up in football...
:)
JC should scrap athletics and try to improve their academics...:D
You are a perfect example of why no one in the state can stomach the Pikeville Independent faithful. A lot of arrogance, but no skill to back it up. That is why when you get smoked in everything for a couple of years people really enjoy it. There is no doubt that Pikeville will someday get back on the winning side of things, but the sad part is, there will still be the faithful there to make everyone look bad. I feel sorry for the good people that go there.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:13 PM
Yes we should keep this on topic. Congrats to Adams for transferring to a school with higher test scores than JC.:notworthy
You obviously can't read, I just posted you the scores.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:15 PM
LOL spin it any way you want. Cograts to JC for their tremendous success in sports in 2008. Keep working hard and you can continue to have your present success - a losing record in baseball, horrible in basketball, and regional runner up in football...
:)
JC should scrap athletics and try to improve their academics...:DOK there pal, Whever they may have been, they were still superior to Pikeville Independent in all departments. :)
And all this coming from a guy that hasn't been able to comprehend what has even been written in this thread. Their academics are just fine. Merge all of the other Pike County schools in with Pikeville City schools, and you probably would not be anywhere close to JC.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:17 PM
You obviously can't read, I just posted you the scores.
I've told him that twice already.:)
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:19 PM
OK there pal, Whever they may have been, they were still superior to Pikeville Independent in all departments. :)
And all this coming from a guy that hasn't been able to comprehend what has even been written in this thread. Their academics are just fine. Merge all of the other Pike County schools in with Pikeville City schools, and you probably would not be anywhere close to JC.
Actually just get their numbers up to the same and they won't be anywhere near them. They are barely above them with having over 600 less students.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:20 PM
I've told him that twice already.:)
Maybe that's the reason their test scores are so low? It's the reading/comprehension section that keep bringing them down. haha
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:28 PM
OK there pal, Whever they may have been, they were still superior to Pikeville Independent in all departments. :)
And all this coming from a guy that hasn't been able to comprehend what has even been written in this thread. Their academics are just fine. Merge all of the other Pike County schools in with Pikeville City schools, and you probably would not be anywhere close to JC.
And did you fail to read that SV, Phelps, and Belfry all have higher test scores than JC...and PCC is about even? How can you merge a bunch of schools with higher test scores than JC and end up with a school with lower scores?:)
BTW, Pikeville beat JC in basketball, the only time the schools played each other in any sport this year.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:30 PM
Maybe that's the reason their test scores are so low? It's the reading/comprehension section that keep bringing them down. haha
Poor feller still doesn't know Pikeville's scores are much higher than JC's in HS, MS and elementary.:igiveup:
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:32 PM
And did you fail to read that SV, Phelps, and Belfry all have higher test scores than JC...and PCC is about even? How can you merge a bunch of schools with higher test scores than JC and end up with a school with lower scores?:)
BTW, Pikeville beat JC in basketball, the only time the schools played each other in any sport this year.
I didn't fail to read them, because those scores don't exist.
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:34 PM
And did you fail to read that SV, Phelps, and Belfry all have higher test scores than JC...and PCC is about even? How can you merge a bunch of schools with higher test scores than JC and end up with a school with lower scores?:)
BTW, Pikeville beat JC in basketball, the only time the schools played each other in any sport this year.
It took a last second shot at the buzzer to do it too. Wow that was impressive by Pikeville to beat a school that in your words couldn't play dead in that sport.
Regional finals baby, is all I can say.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:35 PM
I didn't fail to read them, because those scores don't exist.
Wanna bet?
Mr.Kimball
06-07-2008, 10:41 PM
Wanna bet?
Yeah, I'll bet. But why not just drop this whole ordeal? It's getting old, way off topic, and all you are doing is making a fool out of yourself.
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I'll bet. But why not just drop this whole ordeal? It's getting old, way off topic, and all you are doing is making a fool out of yourself.
Yeah right. You've been wrong on everything you've tried to post and called a coach a name in public to boot. Now THAT'S what I call foolish... :rolleyes:
One more time for you to be wrong - you can find individual school's scores here
http://datacenter.courier-journal.com/schools/kentucky/tests/cats/
Happy reading...:shh:
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Wanna bet?
Yea I do! I have already given you the 2007 results. The 2008 results I don't think have been released. Pikeville Indpendent was .5 points better on the rating. However, they have about 800 less students and don't have hardly any special education students, and not too mention Johnson County has 8 schools they have to count, and Pikeville only has 3 schools. Unless these schools were in the same class system it wouldn't be a fair comparison anyway. It's easy to run your mouth when you only have a fraction of the students to deal with.
JackRabbitSlim
06-07-2008, 10:54 PM
Yeah right. You've been wrong on everything you've tried to post and called a coach a name in public to boot. Now THAT'S what I call foolish... :rolleyes:
One more time for you to be wrong - you can find individual school's scores here
http://datacenter.courier-journal.com/schools/kentucky/tests/cats/
Happy reading...:shh:
This is what is so funny about you. You don't even know how to read the scores! You don't look at the individual school, look up at the top left, right under the school's name where it say,"2007 score." That is where you will find Pikeville rating of a 95.1, and Johnson County's as a 90.9. So here it is again so you can read it right this time....Happy Reading!!!
Pikeville Independent
http://datacenter.courier-journal.com/schools/kentucky/tests/cats/district.php?d=Pikeville+Independent
Johnson County
http://datacenter.courier-journal.com/schools/kentucky/tests/cats/district.php?d=Johnson+County
jetpilot
06-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Yea I do! I have already given you the 2007 results. The 2008 results I don't think have been released. Pikeville Indpendent was .5 points better on the rating. However, they have about 800 less students and don't h