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thetribe
09-30-2005, 07:05 PM
Does anyone watch the show?

Is anyone currently in school for a forensic or criminal justice related career?

What interests you about forensics and criminal justice even if you do not attend school for it?

I find this to be a VERY interesting field of study and plan to major in Forensics. I currently have a class of Forensic Science and although CSI is not exactly like real life, I find it extremely interesting. They speed up the processes but it gives an accurate depiction of technology and methods, just not timing.
DTfan
09-30-2005, 10:34 PM
I'm in a forensic science class. We were doing handwriting analysis and footprints before I wrecked, one of my buddies informed me that we were doing a big crime scene thing right now though, I saw pics of it and it looks pretty good. I watched CSI the other night...I like the show I just can't ever catch it on.
Tomcat68
10-01-2005, 12:44 AM
I watch CSI compulsively. I've seen darn near every episode of the Las Vegas series. I am not studying forensics though. I am going to school to be a high school math teacher.
15thRegionCrazy
10-01-2005, 01:04 AM
I don't watch
I'm majoring in Criminal Justice
MR.INCREDIBLE
10-01-2005, 11:23 AM
i like CSI NY and Vegas, never have got into the Miami one....stuff like that really interests me, i love all those dang shows on discovery and a&e.....forensic files, american justice and stuff like that.
thetribe
10-01-2005, 02:10 PM
The ones on Discovery and A&E are more accurate depictions but they are more criminal justice than forensics IMO. I like The First 48, Forensic Files, Cold Case Files, and all of that stuff as well though Mr. I.
Tomcat68
10-01-2005, 03:02 PM
I watch Forensic Files and the New Detectives all day when I don't have to go to work. Really great shows and really depicts the LONG time table each case actually takes.
15thRegionCrazy
10-02-2005, 01:25 AM
We always watched the first 48 in class.. i like it.. and i always watch the shows on court tv
football05
10-02-2005, 01:42 AM
I can say I have never watched a series of CSI....but i love FBI FILES on discover channel and first 48 hours is awsome too
thetribe
10-02-2005, 11:25 AM
On CSI it shows them getting DNA processing done in under 15 minutes and on average it takes the KSP months to get theirs done...

We are going to go to the Central Crime lab, has anyone else been there?
DTfan
10-02-2005, 06:29 PM
Anything that has to do with forensics is awesome
Amun-Ra
10-02-2005, 11:41 PM
yea i watch it. CSI and CSI miami
love em
FATMAN
10-03-2005, 08:19 AM
but still its an awesome show
thetribe
10-03-2005, 05:42 PM
I love CSI, just wish that there was a show that depicted a forensics lab accurately and was fun at the same time.
DTfan
10-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Yea...tribe that would be awesome. Hey you know what else would be pretty cool...if there was some way that SF and ER would work together since they both have forensic science classes to make like a really big crime scene and we all have to work together to solve it...that is if it happened when I got better...
thetribe
10-03-2005, 08:22 PM
That would be pretty cool but the distance apart would probably keep them from it. I would say that your class could go on the tour the same day as us or something but they only take groups of 25 through the lab at a time so we have to break it up into 2 groups ourselves.

The Kentucky State Police are going to be setting up our mock crime scene but I am not for sure on the location as of yet. We did blood splatter experiments in the classroom so far along with latent prints before that. Other than that we have covered ballistics and trace evidence.

Right now we are going over the JFK shootings and the sniper theories...
What about you?
15thRegionCrazy
10-03-2005, 09:10 PM
We did a mock crime scene last semester in Pikeville.. it was fun
DTfan
10-03-2005, 11:04 PM
Yea the distance will keep them from not doing it which even if our two schools were much closer they probably still wouldn't do it because well...Floyd county is stupid like that. The last thing we did before I wrecked was handwritting analysis and footprints...I talked to one of my friends though and she said they are finishing up on a crime scene...that makes our 2nd one so far this year that I know of...the first one sucks and we didn't really have to think on who the culprit was. I have no idea what we are going to be doing after they finish the crime scene though...it's untelling...

It's really cool that the KSP is setting up your alls that's awesome, I would LOVE that. As for the lab thing my teacher talked about us going and she also mentioned something about the body farm but this being floyd county I doubt that we'll go anywhere...it's hard enough get them to let us go to Prestonsburg for something much less out of county...lol... But from what you mentioned above it sounds like your all's class if way ahead than ours...you're lucky!
thetribe
10-05-2005, 02:01 PM
We are starting handwriting analysis Monday.
We haven't covered TOO much but went into detail and did the labs with each subject. This is my teacher's first year covering forensics and we have no textbooks nor much experience so we are doing all that we can. Her brother is a state trooper though so that helps. I LOVE that class.
DTfan
10-05-2005, 07:16 PM
Yea that would have to help. This is also my teacher's first year and we don't have nya textbooks or anything either. With each topic all we do is take notes, do a handout and that's it. We have covered a pretty good amount for it to be her first year. My teacher told us in the beginning that she didn't know anything about forensic science but she thought it'd be a cool class to have and she also stated numerous times that she learns the material a night before we do.
thetribe
10-05-2005, 07:41 PM
That is exactly how it is with my teacher.
She uses the Internet and stuff and finds notes and handouts and we learn stuff from them.
Do you have any handbooks of the methods used in forensics such as securing crime scenes or anything?
DTfan
10-05-2005, 07:43 PM
I don't know...I know she has two books that she copies stuff from I think but I don't know if she has anything on securing a crime scene...I have notes on it.
thetribe
10-05-2005, 07:50 PM
That's cool. I would like to have actual textbooks or something instead of using the KSP and whatever info they give us and the Internet but I mean, whatever works.

We watched the JFK assassination on the Zapruder film, if you haven't saw it, I highly recommend it too.
DTfan
10-05-2005, 07:55 PM
Haven't saw it...havent seen to school since Sept 16 so...
thetribe
10-05-2005, 08:07 PM
Download it.
Google Zapruder film or something and you will turn up lots of results and you can just view it like that if you want. It is only around 33 seconds or so long. I really liked it because it is just wild. So many questions have been raised about the shootings and the snipers and stuff but the film is all that is really left.

Forensics was not good enough back then to explain much so many people have many theories. Some say that there were more than 1 shooter, even more than 2 snipers. Some say that it had to be 2 because of the number of rounds fired. The government did a test in which the same gun was used and so many marksmen could not set off as many rounds as Oswald did in the short of period of time so they say that it disproves that he was alone.

Others say that because of the location in which he was shot that there had to be a second sniper. Some want to believe that because of the direction of his head that he was shot from the front, but the entry and exit wounds show that he was shot from back to front...

The 'mystery bullet' being the one that passed through JFK's shoulder and out of his wrist and hit another man in the back is something hard to explain but bullets do weird things inside of the body. I wish that they would dig up JFK's remains and let forensic scientists work with them now with all the technology we have.

Anyone have any thoughts on the JFK assassination?
DTfan
10-05-2005, 08:27 PM
Yea that'd be awesome but I doubt that they will. We have too much for forensic scientist to figure out now with all the muders and violence going on to worry about stuff in the past...I mean they can't really change it and I'm sure th Kennedy family don't want to bring it back up due to pain and heartbreak.
thetribe
10-06-2005, 12:31 PM
Yea, just made me wonder about it when I watch the tape and heard all of the theories but I agree, it won't be reviewed again.
DTfan
10-06-2005, 03:43 PM
Very true...if it was to be reviewed again I'd be shocked. But take into consideration the Kennedy family...if I was one of them I wouldn't want to bring it back up due to heartache...
thetribe
10-06-2005, 05:44 PM
Yea, I agree but then again, some may want to know what happened.
I have the film on my computer and I watched it.
I want to know how many shooters there was.
All the theories make me wonder about alot of stuff.

Have you got to see it yet?
crazytaxidriver
10-06-2005, 05:53 PM
Download it.
Google Zapruder film or something and you will turn up lots of results and you can just view it like that if you want. It is only around 33 seconds or so long. I really liked it because it is just wild. So many questions have been raised about the shootings and the snipers and stuff but the film is all that is really left.

Forensics was not good enough back then to explain much so many people have many theories. Some say that there were more than 1 shooter, even more than 2 snipers. Some say that it had to be 2 because of the number of rounds fired. The government did a test in which the same gun was used and so many marksmen could not set off as many rounds as Oswald did in the short of period of time so they say that it disproves that he was alone.

Others say that because of the location in which he was shot that there had to be a second sniper. Some want to believe that because of the direction of his head that he was shot from the front, but the entry and exit wounds show that he was shot from back to front...

The 'mystery bullet' being the one that passed through JFK's shoulder and out of his wrist and hit another man in the back is something hard to explain but bullets do weird things inside of the body. I wish that they would dig up JFK's remains and let forensic scientists work with them now with all the technology we have.

Anyone have any thoughts on the JFK assassination?


Bullets may do strange things inside a body, but i think for the most part they either shatter the bone or shatter themselves.. I don't think a bullet can have enough velocity to go inside a body, ricochet off a bone and come back out another part of the body. Meaning if it goes in one way a bone may knock it off course and it might come back out the opposite side of the body of which it entered.. But it's not goin to hit a bone pull a 180 and come out the same side of entry.. If it did then wow.. someone has been taking some calcium..
and then some bullets will actually shatter once they make contact with a solid object. but once again.. the fragments won't pull 180's and come back the same way they entered.. My theory... there was more than one gunman..
thetribe
10-06-2005, 05:58 PM
It didn't 180. It went through the back of his shoulder, down his arm, and out of his wrist. The bullet went from back to front, but still, it is really odd of how it did that. It is possible though, bullets travel so weird. You can be shot in the back of the neck and the bullet come out of your torso, just odd things like that, but yea CTD, no 180 pulled. Sorry to mislead you.
DTfan
10-06-2005, 06:03 PM
No I haven't gotten to see it yet but there are alot of theories that do make you wonder...
thetribe
10-06-2005, 06:08 PM
I am thinking about researching them on the side and seeing what I can bring up to my forensics teacher.

www.crimelibrary.com is a really interesting website that deals mainly with murder cases if you would like to check it out. It has stuff about ALOT of famous killers, it has psychology of killers, and more on it.
DTfan
10-06-2005, 06:12 PM
That's awesome... I'll tell one of my buddies so she can mention it to my teacher since I won't be at school until the first of November if then.
thetribe
10-06-2005, 06:46 PM
Lol, cool.
I go on there and read stories all the time.
thetribe
10-06-2005, 06:47 PM
The KSP also has an evidence handbook online if you want to mention that or view it yourself.
DTfan
10-06-2005, 08:10 PM
I'll tell her if I remember to...lol
BallaBaby
10-06-2005, 08:17 PM
I'll tell her if I remember to...lol

Then you probably won't tell her. :) :BigLaugh:
DTfan
10-06-2005, 08:21 PM
Haha... very funny Balla I have quite a memory thank you... which you know that...
BallaBaby
10-06-2005, 08:29 PM
Yes I do..lol
DTfan
10-06-2005, 08:37 PM
I still remember when you put me on the same level as someone else...lol that was a big NO-NO
BallaBaby
10-06-2005, 08:41 PM
I remember when you talked to one of my old buddiesand told them what you would do, that was NO-NO!
DTfan
10-06-2005, 08:54 PM
Okay that was a joke and you know it...omg dont being that **** up... I thought we wasn't going to mention the past.
DTfan
10-06-2005, 08:54 PM
Okay that was a joke and you know it...omg dont bring that **** up... I thought we wasn't going to mention the past.
BallaBaby
10-06-2005, 09:28 PM
You brought it up, not me..lol
DTfan
10-06-2005, 09:30 PM
It was a joke... nothing near like hwat you brought up...
BallaBaby
10-06-2005, 09:44 PM
Well I'm sorry
DTfan
10-06-2005, 09:51 PM
You better be...lol just playing
thetribe
10-07-2005, 05:55 PM
Hijacking my Forensics thread! Grrrrr.
I am starting a case study right now on the JFK assassination to do on my own free time.
DTfan
10-09-2005, 06:59 PM
LoL Balla we better stay on topic on this thread if not tribe may assassinate us...lol

Let me know what you come up with when you finish.
thetribe
10-09-2005, 09:58 PM
So far it has been really hard to come up with much of anything. The Zapruder film and testimony is all there is to go on. I am going to look into the many theories asap.
And yes, don't hijack my thread or I will have to pop a cap, or tell stuff I know, or something *evil laugh*
DTfan
10-10-2005, 08:48 PM
*gasps* you have nothing on me! lol...I saw my forensic science teacher today, she said she'd be sending me stuff home...so yay!
thetribe
10-10-2005, 09:30 PM
1. That is a lie.
2. That is awesome.
3. We started handwriting analysis today and I got all my keypoints picked out so we will see what happens tommorow.
4. Happy that you have something cool to do now.
DTfan
10-11-2005, 12:22 AM
Awesome...I didn't really get into the handwritting analysis...I wanna do fingerprints! lol....our first crime scene we did in class which was the only one i've been there for there were chalk finger prints and we took tape and picked up the print and put it under a microscope and examined it... I know it didn't turn out right but it seemed cool plus we were the only group to do it and we wasn't required....lol
15thRegionCrazy
10-11-2005, 01:05 AM
We dusted for fingerprints and took them of each other in Crime Lab.. we also did plaster casts of shoe prints in mud.. fun stuff
4leaf
10-11-2005, 01:56 AM
We did some fingerprint in my BIO lab the other day, nothing complicated like your alls stuff. Just looked at the characteristics of fingerprints, little stuff like that. It was pretty cool I guess.
DTfan
10-11-2005, 08:32 PM
We tried to take a footprint in mud with plaster of paris but my teacher put plastic wrap over the mud before she put the plaster and it didnt turn out right....
thetribe
10-13-2005, 01:47 PM
That is pretty comical, not sure if my teacher could do it either, that is what her Trooper brother is for though....
DTfan
10-13-2005, 03:32 PM
I finally have forensic homework. I have to do a lab over chromatography of inks and a lab over chromatography of lipstick. It should be fun but I have to do it by myself and I don't have all the materials necessary to do it. Ah, I'm sure I'll figure something out.
thetribe
10-13-2005, 05:14 PM
Would help you if I could but I have no clue about that.
If I think of anything, I will let you know....

We went over the JonBenet Ramsey case this week. It was wild, I still have no clue who did it.
River Rat
10-13-2005, 06:52 PM
I think Kelly is hot!
thetribe
10-13-2005, 09:49 PM
Kelly?!? What?!? Who?!??
DTfan
10-13-2005, 11:01 PM
LoL
River Rat
10-14-2005, 05:16 PM
Kelly?!? What?!? Who?!??
Callie on CSI:Miami or whatever the heck her name is.
thetribe
10-15-2005, 03:57 PM
Oh, okay, I see.
That statement was just so random I had no idea what you are talking about.
I like CSI: Las Vegas, New York, and some of Miami.
Law and Order isn't that bad either, just not very forensic related.
DTfan
10-17-2005, 01:26 PM
I like CSI, I just watch it when I come across it and there's nothing else on...lol...I mostly watch MTV and Disney...lol
thetribe
10-17-2005, 09:10 PM
I don't have MTV and I hate Disney but I have the DVDs of CSI so that makes it alot easier, no commericals and such.
15thRegionCrazy
10-17-2005, 09:46 PM
I love MTV and Disney DT... I watch them all the time too lol
Wiki-we
10-20-2005, 12:49 PM
I don't have MTV and I hate Disney but I have the DVDs of CSI so that makes it alot easier, no commericals and such.

My girlfriend LOVES CSI... I Baught the first season for her birthday, but she watchs that show just a bought every night and when she is watching it she want talk to me on the phone cause she gets so into it! but its ok though...lol
thetribe
10-20-2005, 01:51 PM
I can't talk to anyone on the phone while watching it either because I get so into reviewing the evidence and just wanting to learn EVERTHING that I can from it, that I just cannot pay attention to anything while CSI is on.
DTfan
10-20-2005, 02:35 PM
I love MTV and Disney DT... I watch them all the time too lol

MTV and Disney has some pretty good stuff on...lol...plus I can have 'quality time' with my sister when a movie come on Disney...
thetribe
10-21-2005, 08:36 AM
Lol, anyways...back to forensics..

I have to write my first paper for that class this week and well, I am trying to do it on criminal psychology. I want to write a feature article about the facts that serial killers have stuff in common. Common backgrounds and stuff like that. I have done alot of research so far but will be opening a thread for people's opinions here on the site.