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pcchs_gurl1505
10-26-2005, 11:23 AM
Does the Hawks have any hope? Honest opinionns I do play.
Smokey
10-27-2005, 04:36 PM
The hawks have more than hope...they are the best team in the region, and will be going to state again with some effort.
Hawks nest
10-27-2005, 05:34 PM
I think you have all the talent to go to the state. If the coaching change doesnt make it to where things change a lot meaning you all have to learn a whole new system, you shouldnt miss a beat. Good luck to you guys. Make us proud.
GIVE ME THE ROCK
10-27-2005, 09:47 PM
Is AD Slone going to stay at Central? I know her eligibility hasn't been established yet..That could change some things on your season.
sportschick15
10-29-2005, 06:07 PM
Pike Central definitely has the talent..it's just a matter of whether or not the girls want to play. If they put forth an effort, they'll definitely make it to state..and quite possibly, place!
FOX SPORTS
10-29-2005, 07:32 PM
It's up to the ladies at Pike Central whether they have any hope or not.
The Hawks have a great deal of talent and regardless of the coaching situation, can do well.
The girl's attitudes will determine if there's hope or not.
Good attitudes can take an average team far...good attitudes can take a good team as far as they want to go.
I've seen many talented teams overcome coaching.
The Observer
10-30-2005, 11:07 PM
I heard that only 3 girls showed up for practice the first day with the new coach and 6 the second. Sounds like the players are taking a stand for what they want. You have got to have the players to have a team. Looks like teamwork there. Hang in there girls...it is a shame that this had to happen to such a talented team.
Basketballer
10-31-2005, 02:07 AM
I dont expect much from them after the coaching change, They were in my preseason top 4 too
Maui Nick
10-31-2005, 02:12 AM
I heard that only 3 girls showed up for practice the first day with the new coach and 6 the second. Sounds like the players are taking a stand for what they want. You have got to have the players to have a team. Looks like teamwork there. Hang in there girls...it is a shame that this had to happen to such a talented team.
I heard something stronger -- to the effect that the entire team has said they won't play for him.
Basketballer
10-31-2005, 02:22 AM
WOW, that would make a huge statment
15regioncrazy
10-31-2005, 08:24 PM
The girls at pike county central definately have the talent. The test for them will be wether they can play together as a team. I know a coaching change is a huge adjustment for them to go through especially considering that it was totally out of the blue. I mean whoever guessed that tussey would be asked to resign. She is one of the best coaches in the region IMO. But I feel that the girls will pull through as they have in the past. Good luck girls! Wear the blue and orange with pride!:champ:
Maui Nick
10-31-2005, 09:37 PM
I heard something stronger -- to the effect that the entire team has said they won't play for him.
I have since been told that this is not true. Sorry for the bum steer.
pcchs_gurl1505
11-01-2005, 11:06 AM
yeah AD is playin for us. The coacging change is goin to hit us hard when the season starts. If you heard that about us not showing up at practice you are right that was not the caoch we voted for and we'll get what we want. The new coach is a jerk I can't stand him none of us can. He has litlw experience and tinks its funn and its just a game. We all think he just wants to be caled COACH. Tussey didn' resign her and the principle didn't agree he made her quit. No we don't want to play for him but I guess we have to right?
Phoenix
11-01-2005, 02:31 PM
It looks like if you want to play this year you have little choice but to play for the coach that has been hired, but you could always set out a year (unless you are a senior) and play somewhere else next year. Or if your parents were to make a legal move out of the Pike Central district then you could play somewhere else without sitting out a year.
Seems the only thing to do is to get everyone not to play....but that would be really hard to do.
The Observer
11-01-2005, 06:32 PM
Maybe make a principal change and put your coach back in. That should have never happened. BAD...BAD move Mr. Eddie McCoy and the board.
The Observer
11-01-2005, 06:33 PM
If they really cared they would have never let this happen. I think the players shouldn't play. Teach them a lesson instead of them doing what's best for them. If they cared anything about your team they would have left things alone.
pcchs_gurl1505
11-02-2005, 12:33 PM
thanks for ur opinion....I am a sophomore but I've benn playing at other skools since 6th grade I moved to central last year to play for Tussey. Most all of us have said we wern'tn going to play but he said he would have try-outs agauin and pick a new team without paige lowe,halley ratliff, or kayla lowe
snoop
11-02-2005, 12:47 PM
AD and PPC company are more than welcome to come to the Valley. I know that they need some girls with some height to add to their tough guard play!
FOX SPORTS
11-02-2005, 01:27 PM
The Hawks could go to Pikeville!
pcchs_gurl1505
11-02-2005, 03:19 PM
this hawk is thinkin bout movin!!
The Hawks could go to Pikeville!
True...but they would all have to move.
thanks for ur opinion....I am a sophomore but I've benn playing at other skools since 6th grade I moved to central last year to play for Tussey. Most all of us have said we wern'tn going to play but he said he would have try-outs agauin and pick a new team without paige lowe,halley ratliff, or kayla lowe
So tryouts and not allow these players to tryout? Sounds like a REALLY smart coach then if this is true.
The Observer
11-03-2005, 06:36 PM
I believe I would change schools or sit out. This is not right. I was told that A.D. went back to Phelps Thurs. and there is much more to come. You can't coach a team without players. Bobby Spears knows that. This all needs to be undone....but I don't see how it can be. To much damage has already been done. I heard Haley was going to Pikeville. Good move! I also heard this new coach had a 5:30 a.m. practice Thurs. and some of the players didn't show up.
web-foot woe
11-03-2005, 10:35 PM
I believe any team in the region will be more then happy to coach these girls and I know a little about the sport and bet I could win the region with this team.
A player may go anywhere until they play 1 sec. in a varsity game. That is when the rule comes in that a player must move or sit out a year unless they are n incoming freshmen... then they may go anywhere they choose to play... until they have played in a varsity sport. It may be a good idea to change schools and sit out a year unless they are a senior. Then I think I would have to move if they don't want to play for this new coach. I believe we need to look more closely at if these kids have really moved!
Maui Nick
11-04-2005, 01:02 AM
A player may go anywhere until they play 1 sec. in a varsity game. That is when the rule comes in that a player must move or sit out a year unless they are n incoming freshmen... then they may go anywhere they choose to play... until they have played in a varsity sport. It may be a good idea to change schools and sit out a year unless they are a senior. Then I think I would have to move if they don't want to play for this new coach. I believe we need to look more closely at if these kids have really moved!
Here's the rule: "Any student who has been enrolled in grades nine (9) through twelve (12) and has participated in any varsity game in any sport at any school following enrollment in grade nine (9) who transfers schools shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletics for one year from the date of enrollment in the new school. ..."
"No student enrolled in grades 4-12 who has participated in a first team game shall be eligible to represent a second member school during that school year unless that student would qualify for a waiver of the period of ineligibility in accordance with provisions (a) through (f) above."
FOX SPORTS
11-04-2005, 08:20 AM
If there is a legitimate move what happens with eligibility???
Maui Nick
11-04-2005, 06:49 PM
Slone's never played any varsity sport at Central, so she would be eligible immediately.
Thanks for the details on the rule.
So A.D. is ok to play anywhere she wants to and the Johnson girl shouldn't be legal for any other school unless she really did move or she sits out for a year. She played last year at Valley didn't she?
:PirateSku :ref2:
What is a-f? How could they be ok to play then?
Here's the rule: "Any student who has been enrolled in grades nine (9) through twelve (12) and has participated in any varsity game in any sport at any school following enrollment in grade nine (9) who transfers schools shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletics for one year from the date of enrollment in the new school. ..."
"No student enrolled in grades 4-12 who has participated in a first team game shall be eligible to represent a second member school during that school year unless that student would qualify for a waiver of the period of ineligibility in accordance with provisions (a) through (f) above."
Maui Nick
11-05-2005, 01:31 AM
What is a-f? How could they be ok to play then?
Provisions a thru f don't matter in Slone's case.
What about that Johnson girl? She is still living in same place. I was told she gave another address.Provisions a thru f don't matter in Slone's case.
snoop
11-07-2005, 08:39 AM
She is still living in the same place. The problem is that she is not good enough for anyone to call in on!
15th Fan
11-07-2005, 10:13 AM
I am a former player of Tussey's and she was so much harder on us than these girls now could ever imagine. Yes, what happened to her was wrong and I didn't agree with it. All I know is that if these girls really love the game and want to play, they need to respect the coaching change and go along with it instead of whining, crying, and pouting. They are used to getting their way and this time it didn't happen. Suck it up and show the 15th region what PCC Lady Hawks can do this year. You have the talent so go out there and show it.
Phoenix
11-07-2005, 12:00 PM
She is still living in the same place. The problem is that she is not good enough for anyone to call in on!
Ouch!
Starting center Kim Coleman left the Lady Hawks as of Monday. Word was Paige Lowe quit also.
pcchs_gurl1505
11-08-2005, 11:23 AM
Halley isn't going to Pikeville but Paige is I'm thinking about it and we have lost 3 players b/c of the coaches
pcchs_gurl1505
11-08-2005, 11:24 AM
yea kayla johnson is still playin
I guess players voting on it takes pressure off of coaches back with all problems he is having. Good idea to me. Looks like having enough as it is.:PirateSho
foulshot
11-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Pike Central has Kayla Johnson, Paige Lowe and Haley Ratliff and these girls are very talented. I have watched them play and they play hard and strong very top notch. Kayla Lowe has some improving to do, as for A. Coleman and K. Pennington need alot of work and have a long way to go.
StrikeoutKing
11-10-2005, 09:06 AM
I think Pike Central will have the best team in the 15th Region this upcomiong season. Although, if the rumors are true that Paige Lowe is transferring to Pikeville, they will lose a big time scorer. But if that is true, there is no need to worry. Hailey Ratliff will lead a young, but experienced team of Lady Hawks to E.A. Diddle Arena. Coach Tammy Tussey will have her team focused and determined on returning to Bowling Green! I wish PCC well and Good Luck on the upcomnig season.
I think Pike Central will have the best team in the 15th Region this upcomiong season. Although, if the rumors are true that Paige Lowe is transferring to Pikeville, they will lose a big time scorer. But if that is true, there is no need to worry. Hailey Ratliff will lead a young, but experienced team of Lady Hawks to E.A. Diddle Arena. Coach Tammy Tussey will have her team focused and determined on returning to Bowling Green! I wish PCC well and Good Luck on the upcomnig season.
The bad thing is...Tussy isn't the coach anymore.
RUNtheBALL
11-10-2005, 10:18 AM
I think the hawk parents need a reality check. I think new coach Steven Butcher will do a very good job. True he doesn't have much GIRLS basketball coaching experience but he has alot of basketball coaching experience, which is the important thing. I also just got word that Hawk practice has been went very well since the players came and got a new understanding of the new coach. And Butcher is not there just to have fun and play games. He is there to WIN.
snoop
11-10-2005, 10:20 AM
Halley isn't going to Pikeville but Paige is I'm thinking about it and we have lost 3 players b/c of the coaches
Come to Valley! Is Kayla Johnson really getting playing time?
Maui Nick
11-10-2005, 12:21 PM
Pike Central has Kayla Johnson, Paige Lowe and Haley Ratliff and these girls are very talented. I have watched them play and they play hard and strong very top notch. Kayla Lowe has some improving to do, as for A. Coleman and K. Pennington need alot of work and have a long way to go.
pike central also has kayla lowe (she's brad's little sister and she's taller than he is), who's in her third varsity season and is now central's only post player.
oldcoach
11-11-2005, 08:18 PM
I think new coach Steven Butcher will do a very good job. True he doesn't have much GIRLS basketball coaching experience but he has alot of basketball coaching experience, which is the important thing.
Exactly where does his head coaching experience come from?
Phoenix
11-14-2005, 09:16 AM
Exactly where does his head coaching experience come from?
I was wondering the same thing. If he's so great a coach, then how come no one has heard of him outside the Pike County political system?
foulshot
11-15-2005, 08:53 AM
Kayla Lowe would be a good post player if she would stay where she is suppose to. The only thing she likes to do is bring the ball down the court trying to be a point guard. knowing she is to tall maybe she is scared to play post.
foulshot
11-15-2005, 09:04 AM
Lowe isn't going to Pikeville she is staying at Pike Central. I think that is great. I think that several people don't want her back because they think they are the stars. And she is not the only one who has an attitude problem the whole team does. And as for her not bering allowed to mop up your players sweat you are already doing that yourself and besides she is to good to mop up the sweat of your so called players and as for to keep getting back on the team because she is good you got that right she is real good at basketball.
foulshot
11-15-2005, 01:22 PM
The Lady Hawks have a good chance of having a winning season. I think that if the coaches would play Haley Ratliff, Paige Lowe, and Kayla Johnson as guards and play Kayla Lowe as a post player they would be unstopable.
:theman:
Phoenix
11-15-2005, 01:50 PM
The Lady Hawks have a good chance of having a winning season. I think that if the coaches would play Haley Ratliff, Paige Lowe, and Kayla Johnson as guards and play Kayla Lowe as a post player they would be unstopable.
:theman:
Doesn't Kayla Johnson have to sit out a year since she didn't make a legal move?
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-15-2005, 06:26 PM
Butcher is going to do a fine job at Pike Central this season. You all keep asking where he got his head coaching experience from, from what ive read no one delcared that he has had head coaching experiecne the man has coached at Cumberland College as an assistant coach when they made it to the NAIA tournament not only that but he was the ONLY ASSITANT at that time for Cumberland. He as well was an assistant coach at a very good Pulaski High School. He as well had a coaching oppurtunity in Hawaii which he did not take, this offer came when Mason Co. coach left for Hawaii.
As for the whole issue on P. Lowe. She is one heck of a ball player but did not prove her self last season like she had in the past. Does she have an attitude problem which needed to be resolved and the answer to this is yes. But do other players on the team AS WELL have attitude problems and my answer to that is once again yes, but at the same time these other players did NOT walk out on their team Not only once BUT TWICE. If she had not walked out twice then Butcher would not have went to the extreme that he did take. It is true that she now is practicing but only twice a week. She will be back at the turn of the year and will probley from my opinion have to work hard to regain her starting position. I personaly have talked to Butcher and he said quote unquote "I expect as much out of this team as I do any other, I will give the girls the recpect they decerive and I expect the same out of them." He as well made the statement that "A district championship isn't enough I will only settle for a regional championship anything less WILL be a disappointment.
enough is enough of this situation...this is getting real old.
:beg: :theman:
Phoenix
11-16-2005, 09:25 AM
Butcher is going to do a fine job at Pike Central this season. You all keep asking where he got his head coaching experience from, from what ive read no one delcared that he has had head coaching experiecne the man has coached at Cumberland College as an assistant coach when they made it to the NAIA tournament not only that but he was the ONLY ASSITANT at that time for Cumberland. He as well was an assistant coach at a very good Pulaski High School. He as well had a coaching oppurtunity in Hawaii which he did not take, this offer came when Mason Co. coach left for Hawaii.
As for the whole issue on P. Lowe. She is one heck of a ball player but did not prove her self last season like she had in the past. Does she have an attitude problem which needed to be resolved and the answer to this is yes. But do other players on the team AS WELL have attitude problems and my answer to that is once again yes, but at the same time these other players did NOT walk out on their team Not only once BUT TWICE. If she had not walked out twice then Butcher would not have went to the extreme that he did take. It is true that she now is practicing but only twice a week. She will be back at the turn of the year and will probley from my opinion have to work hard to regain her starting position. I personaly have talked to Butcher and he said quote unquote "I expect as much out of this team as I do any other, I will give the girls the recpect they decerive and I expect the same out of them." He as well made the statement that "A district championship isn't enough I will only settle for a regional championship anything less WILL be a disappointment.
Then he should probably be prepared for a disappointment. I don't think he'll win district or region.
15th Fan
11-16-2005, 11:25 AM
These girls have unbelievable talent. If their attitudes do not get in the way, they have one of the best chances to be regional champs.
champ321
11-17-2005, 02:04 PM
They need to quit complaining about the coaching changes and play ball. Look at the ERHS Lady Warriors. If I'm not mistaken they have had 4 new coaches in the 4 years of existence. Not to mention the one coach that didn't even show up and he quit before summer camps even started. If they really loved the game and wanted to play, then they would play under any circumstances. Coaches don't effect the talent that's on the floor.
How can the girls be playing the boys this is illegal? This needs to be reported to the KHSAA. You only get 2 scrimmage games before the first game.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-18-2005, 08:19 AM
How can the girls be playing the boys this is illegal? This needs to be reported to the KHSAA. You only get 2 scrimmage games before the first game.
Well considering they do this during practice it is not considered a scrimmage it is condiered practice...Im sure that most teams in the region do the exact same thing...
You're wrong on that one. I'll report it and we shall see then. Good Luck?
Read the bylaws.
www.khsaa.org (http://www.khsaa.org) check it out.
PC has gotten beat both scrimmages what's up with the new coach. I thought he was going to do better than Tussey? I don't think so! Is Paige Lowe still :mop: ?:Skull03:
Well considering they do this during practice it is not considered a scrimmage it is condiered practice...Im sure that most teams in the region do the exact same thing...
I'll second that one. Belfry will win both. :Pirate04: Then he should probably be prepared for a disappointment. I don't think he'll win district or region.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-20-2005, 07:03 PM
You go ahead and do that Hulk b/c your not going to get any where with it... The only reason you would even do that is b/c your scared of the Pike County Central basketball teams and you are afraid that your going to get beat by them it's fear my friend... Oh and by the way Paige is practicing...SO you sit over there at Pond Creek and think what you want b/c your just another biased fan on this web site...
We will be in the finals...see ya there...NOT
:Skull03:
How many illegal players do we have? NONE
You guys have K. Lowe who was once a Pirate and K.Johnson who never moved. Looks like I have plenty to report. It's good to see P. Lowe where she needs to be. This may teach her a lesson. Doubt it. Bad ATTITUDE.:ChairHit:
:AngelPray Needs to be a good girl.:moon:
Moon can take care of Haley and Deskins will put a lid on K. Lowe. That's all they have. The rest are grade school girls.:wieghts:
You go ahead and do that Hulk b/c your not going to get any where with it... The only reason you would even do that is b/c your scared of the Pike County Central basketball teams and you are afraid that your going to get beat by them it's fear my friend... Oh and by the way Paige is practicing...SO you sit over there at Pond Creek and think what you want b/c your just another biased fan on this web site...
Smokey
11-20-2005, 11:43 PM
The thing to do is just play.....I know most of these girls, and they have complained about every coach that they have had, no matter the sport....Fact of the matter is, you guys played like it was just a game last year, like you were too good, so if you want it to be different, make it that way and play hard.
Im with you about the coaching decision though, I wish it would have been someone different, and you know who I mean....But at this point, there is not much to do but play for each other, especially the seniors.
Smokey
11-20-2005, 11:53 PM
and by the way......PC, no matter how many problems, will beat Belfry....It has never been much of a problem, and shouldnt be this year either.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-21-2005, 08:21 AM
For one Kayla Lowe lives in the Pike Central District so that is a shot argument...K. Johnson to my knowlege but i could b wrong...never played in a varsity game last season...You would not b worried about all these girls even playing if you had total and complete faith in your team...I will tell you that i did not agree in the coaching change at first but now i have to agree with it b/c Tussey had changed her coaching habits completly from the earlier teams that she coached such as the first team she took to the regional championship im friends with Tussey and i have the most respect for her than anyone but she knows she had changed the way that she had coached...but we will see what happens once the season starts which is next week...
Phoenix
11-21-2005, 08:27 AM
and by the way......PC, no matter how many problems, will beat Belfry....It has never been much of a problem, and shouldnt be this year either.
If it never has been much of a problem, are you forgetting the two games PC lost to Belfry last year? Regular season, District Championship.
WeisGuy
11-21-2005, 08:33 AM
Hulk,
You are a very big person to get on a message board and post things about 15-16 yr. old girls' behavior. I couldn't care less what any of your other opinions are based on the fact that you would drag a young girl's name through the mud. If you have something against Paige Lowe or how bad her behavior is, then maybe you need to talk to her like a MATURE person would. Otherwise, your opinions on the way she lives her life are irrelevant and need to stay off of this site that is intended to be used to talk about HS Athletics.
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-21-2005, 08:37 AM
i think that Central will have some trouble with Belfry this season...but we will just have to wait and see...
You're right. I just didn't to see attitude in a good player. I'll lay off. Good Luck Central. i think that Central will have some trouble with Belfry this season...but we will just have to wait and see...
15regioncrazy
11-21-2005, 07:58 PM
You go ahead and do that Hulk b/c your not going to get any where with it... The only reason you would even do that is b/c your scared of the Pike County Central basketball teams and you are afraid that your going to get beat by them it's fear my friend... Oh and by the way Paige is practicing...SO you sit over there at Pond Creek and think what you want b/c your just another biased fan on this web site...
Couldn't have said it better my friend! :theman:
turtle
11-23-2005, 07:46 PM
PC will win the region. They have more talent than everyone else..just like every year Tussey had them. Only this year they will be in shape, have a focus and someone on the bench that knows there is a game going on in front of them, which will be enough in itself for their talent to take care of everyone
Change of coach was bad timing but not necessarily a bad move...if you know antything about this situation at all then you know that the kids have been calling the shots in that program for the last few years and trying to do the same now that she is gone(heck this time last year they were trying to get HER fired !!)..SV set the precedent for this type of player problem last year with their girls coach being fired by the kids...IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THEN PLAY...IF YOU WANT TO GO THEN GO..IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS YOU PROBABLY ARENT THAT IMPORTANT TO THE LONG TERM PROGRAM ANYWAY !!
IF YOU WILL QUIT THEM NOW THEN YOU WILL QUIT THEM IN THE REGION FINALS DOWN 3 POINTS AND LITTLE TIME ON THE CLOCK !!
BE GONE WITH YOU !!
Ajudicator
11-24-2005, 01:49 AM
Well...as of now all the girls love the new coach. There are thought, just a few bad apples. I think they now realize what a great person...let alone what a great coach Butcher is! He is going to be great. I am glad that the principle chose him.
15thRegionCrazy
11-24-2005, 02:59 AM
Guys... try to keep the arguing down and keep it on topic... thanks
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-24-2005, 02:04 PM
PC will win the region. They have more talent than everyone else..just like every year Tussey had them. Only this year they will be in shape, have a focus and someone on the bench that knows there is a game going on in front of them, which will be enough in itself for their talent to take care of everyone
Change of coach was bad timing but not necessarily a bad move...if you know antything about this situation at all then you know that the kids have been calling the shots in that program for the last few years and trying to do the same now that she is gone(heck this time last year they were trying to get HER fired !!)..SV set the precedent for this type of player problem last year with their girls coach being fired by the kids...IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THEN PLAY...IF YOU WANT TO GO THEN GO..IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS YOU PROBABLY ARENT THAT IMPORTANT TO THE LONG TERM PROGRAM ANYWAY !!
IF YOU WILL QUIT THEM NOW THEN YOU WILL QUIT THEM IN THE REGION FINALS DOWN 3 POINTS AND LITTLE TIME ON THE CLOCK !!
BE GONE WITH YOU !!
You said that very well great great insight turtle...
The Fan
11-27-2005, 02:12 AM
i respect your opion Turtle but i have to disagree PC doesnt have 5 better starters than Magoffin seen both play this year dont really care just my observation
Blue Jet
11-27-2005, 03:14 PM
I think that PC will be decently good despite all the facts about the coaching staff..I have heard various amounts of rumors though and if they are true im not to sure for a good season for pcc...
15thRegionSlamaBamma
11-28-2005, 08:10 AM
We will see tonight how good Central is they play Allen Central tonight may not be the best of competion to compare to but we can still see how deep on the bench they are and how they have conformed to Butchers style...
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