Best Mountain rb's that you have seen over the past 10 years

[Superman]

Would like to hear what you all think. Here's a few that I can think of ( in no particular order).

Josh Banks- Johnson central
Doug Howard- Belfry
Matt Slone- Prestonsburg
Mike West- Lawrence Co.
Barrett Rogers- Pikeville
Mike Fannin- Prestonsburg

[crazytaxidriver]

Let this be the first warning:

If I see an argument about Varney or Robinson in here this thread will be locked immediately. So before it get's out of hand let's keep it civil.

[crazytaxidriver]

Doug Howard-Belfry
Micah Caudill- Belfry
Larry Paul Thornsberry-Pike Central/Lawerence County
Josh Gross-Russel (I think they are considered Mtn.)

[blackcat]

P-burg- Jeremy Caudill, Mikeal Fannin, Matt Slone
Belfry- Doug Howard

[crazytaxidriver]

P-burg- Jeremy Caudill, Mikeal Fannin, Matt Slone
Belfry- Doug Howard

Jeremy Caudill played rb in high school????

[Sasquatch72]

weston robinson- pikeville
barret rogers- pikeville
paul sullivan- pikeville
doug howard- belfry
robert shurtleff- pikeville

[blackcat]

P-burg- Jeremy Caudill, Mikeal Fannin, Matt Slone
Belfry- Doug Howard

Jeremy Caudill played rb in high school????

Yep :D

[PHSFAN]

The best ones I have seen are Doug Howard(Belfry), Eddie Deramus(Pikeville) and Brent Coleman(Pikeville) in the past ten years.

[crazytaxidriver]

P-burg- Jeremy Caudill, Mikeal Fannin, Matt Slone
Belfry- Doug Howard

Jeremy Caudill played rb in high school????

Yep :D

That would be scary lol

[blackcat]

Caudill was a beast. He set a couple weight lifting state records and ran a 4.8 if i'm not mistaken.

[HappyGilmore]

In order:

Doug Howard - Belfry
Brent Coleman - Pikeville
David Jones - Belfry

Knocking on the door would be:

Barret Rogers - Pikeville
Michael West - Lawrence Co.
Eddie Deramus - Pikeville
Nick Meadows - Lawrence Co.
Micah Caudill - Belfry
Matt Slone - Prestonsburg
Shawn Robbins - Bell Co.
Lee Renfro - SW

I know there are some I left out, but those are the guys who come to mind first.

[PHSFAN]

In order:

Doug Howard - Belfry
Brent Coleman - Pikeville
David Jones - Belfry

Knocking on the door would be:

Barret Rogers - Pikeville
Michael West - Lawrence Co.
Eddie Deramus - Pikeville
Nick Meadows - Lawrence Co.
Micah Caudill - Belfry
Matt Slone - Prestonsburg
Shawn Robbins - Bell Co.
Lee Renfro - SW

I know there are some I left out, but those are the guys who come to mind first.

I would have Brent Coleman and Doug Howard as 1A and 1B. Both backs were great and it is about impossible for me to pick one over the other. When I saw Howard play at Pikeville this year that looked like Brent Coleman out there, they even looked the same...both GREAT backs. Eddie Deramus could have been the best back in the moutnains maybe ever if he would have devoted himself to football.

[kyfootballfan]

what about casey newsome and dusty hall from shelby valley

[Redneck]

Players I have actually seen play:

Matt Slone - Pburg
Mike Fannin - Pburg
Joe Blackburn - Pburg
David Peters - Paintsville
Matt Brown - Paintsville
Brock Taylor - Paintsville
Jonah Caudill - Belfry
Doug Howard - Belfry
Josh Banks - JC
Scott Salyer - JC
Barret Rogers - Pikeville
Paul Sullivan - Pikeville

[ComfortEagle]

Eddie Deramus
Doug Howard
David Jones

and I had the privelage of playing with these guys:

Barret Rogers
Jarrod Frasure
Paul Sullivan

[Flowmaster]

I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned Michael West from Lawrence Co. He has to be the best, if not the best. 7,000+ rushing yards and didn't play any until halfway through is Freshman season. Quickest kid I've ever seen in pads.

[the love for the game]

P-burg- Jeremy Caudill, Mikeal Fannin, Matt Slone
Belfry- Doug Howard

as blackcat said

[HappyGilmore]

I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned Michael West from Lawrence Co. He has to be the best, if not the best. 7,000+ rushing yards and didn't play any until halfway through is Freshman season. Quickest kid I've ever seen in pads.

I mentioned him, but to me he wasn't as good as Howard, Jones, Coleman, Robbins, or Renfro.

Actually, I thought he was the 2nd best runner on his team (Dontae Wright).

Also saw him head to head against Barret Rogers and Howard (Howard was a freshman). I'd take either Rogers or Howard, as a freshman, over West.

Granted I only saw a handful of games, but thats what I saw.

[gish]

John Ortega was pretty darn good, when he graduated he was the state's 10th all-time scorer. Jeremy didn't play Rb in highschool. He played Full back, and that was his freshmen and sophmore year.

[crazytaxidriver]

John Ortega was pretty darn good, when he graduated he was the state's 10th all-time scorer. Jeremy didn't play Rb in highschool. He played ()*&, and that was his freshmen and sophmore year. Gr

If ya don't care space the letters out, cause for some reason it edited what you wrote lol

[HappyGilmore]

John Ortega was pretty darn good, when he graduated he was the state's 10th all-time scorer. Jeremy didn't play Rb in highschool. He played Full back, and that was his freshmen and sophmore year.

I don't know why I always forget about John Ortega, I guess its because when he was in his last couple years of high school I was in my early years of college. I don't remember much of anything from those times. :lol:

But John and his brother Ryan are two of the better athletes I have ever been around.

[blackcat]

John Ortega was pretty darn good, when he graduated he was the state's 10th all-time scorer. Jeremy didn't play Rb in highschool. He played Full back, and that was his freshmen and sophmore year.

I knew he played FB, just didnt know it was just his freshman and sophmore year.

Seth Hyden from P-burg was pretty good too.

[BCF4L]

Seth Hyden wouldn't be from the past 10 years though. He graduated in '93 I believe. I know Matt Slone was good, as was Mikeal Fannin. But the best is Howard from Belfry no doubt.

[PHSFAN]

John Ortega was a great RB and all round athlete and a great guy. I have watched a lot of football in Eastern Kentucky for the last 15 years and Brent Coleman was by far the best I had seen up until this season. After Watching Doug Howard I have to put him right up there with Coleman. I still think Eddie Deramus could have been the best RB ever in East Kentucky if he would have used his head and kept it on striaght. Another very good RB within the last ten years is Jonathan Chapman. He would have broke the all time TD record had he not got hurt his senior year at Pikeville. He was a great RB 95-97 for Breathitt County.

[JKWON33]

Doug Howard from Belfry was one of those players that could dominate a game by himself. His speed and power was unremarkable and I haven't seen a player like that in quite some time. I don't know if I'd take a Fresh. Howard over a Senior Mike West from Lawrence Co. West was very tough and went to Marshall but I believe he is at Western Kentucky now. But I think Howard was probably the best as of late in EKY.

[blackcat]

I think Slone and Fannin were both as good as Howard.

[Eugene Cole]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's

[PooPooHead]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's



Shurtleff wasnt that good now. We left out Micah Caudill. He was one of the best becuz he setthe record in only 2 years at belfry.

[HappyGilmore]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's



Shurtleff wasnt that good now. We left out Micah Caudill. He was one of the best becuz he setthe record in only 2 years at belfry.

Micah played all 4 years of high school at Belfry and had more carries for a career than Howard.

[PHSFAN]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's

How can you not have Brent Coleman on that list?? Brent is the best RB to ever play at Pikeville High School. Well I just saw that you had the last 5 years my bad....Brent Coleman was a better RB than any RB on your list besides Howard and I don't think you could put Coleaman over Howard or visa versa.

[Stunt101]

Micah Caudill

[PantherBlitz42]

Barret rogers and sullivan definatley

[Flowmaster]

I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned Michael West from Lawrence Co. He has to be the best, if not the best. 7,000+ rushing yards and didn't play any until halfway through is Freshman season. Quickest kid I've ever seen in pads.

I mentioned him, but to me he wasn't as good as Howard, Jones, Coleman, Robbins, or Renfro.

Actually, I thought he was the 2nd best runner on his team (Dontae Wright).

Also saw him head to head against Barret Rogers and Howard (Howard was a freshman). I'd take either Rogers or Howard, as a freshman, over West.

Granted I only saw a handful of games, but thats what I saw.

He wasn't as good, you have got to be pretty good to be the second best rusher in KHSAA history. Doug is the leading rusher at Belfry and that is all anyone can say about it. He didn't come no where close to 7,000 yards. I was hoping that West would end up at my alma mater, but he decided to go to Marshall. As a freshman Howard nor Rogers had 2,000 yards like West. Dontae was an option QB his senior year, and that is why he was dangerous. The majority of Howard's yards came against sub-par competition i.e. Pike Central, Shelby Valley, Magoffin Co, Sheldon Clark, East Ridge. West played tougher competition throughout his high school career. He was quicker, and more elusive than Howard. Both backs could run over you, but I know where you are coming from and why you see Howard as the best. If you sit back and actually watch the kids whole career you can understand why I pick West as being much greater than either Rogers and Howard.

[pcbear17]

Johnny Lash- Leslie Co.
Shamar Beatty- Hazard
The razor kid from Breathitt Co.
Jonah Caudill- Belfry

[Redneck]

West's Sophomore year he rushed for 2,400 yards, AND he didn't even become the starter til the 4th game of the year. He had over 300 yards rushing against Bell County when Bell was one of the top rush defenses in the state. Had Chuke Williams have been at Lawrence for West's Senior year he would have easily broke the state record and be the States "All Time Leading Rusher". Not taking ANYTHING away from Doug, I LOVED watching him run the ball, but facts are facts, I would say that Doug is the 2nd best running back I have seen in the last 10 years though, Wet being first.

[crazytaxidriver]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's



Shurtleff wasnt that good now. We left out Micah Caudill. He was one of the best becuz he setthe record in only 2 years at belfry.

Micah played all 4 years of high school at Belfry and had more carries for a career than Howard.

I thought he played 3 years and was injured his sophomore year.

[HappyGilmore]

I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned Michael West from Lawrence Co. He has to be the best, if not the best. 7,000+ rushing yards and didn't play any until halfway through is Freshman season. Quickest kid I've ever seen in pads.

I mentioned him, but to me he wasn't as good as Howard, Jones, Coleman, Robbins, or Renfro.

Actually, I thought he was the 2nd best runner on his team (Dontae Wright).

Also saw him head to head against Barret Rogers and Howard (Howard was a freshman). I'd take either Rogers or Howard, as a freshman, over West.

Granted I only saw a handful of games, but thats what I saw.

He wasn't as good, you have got to be pretty good to be the second best rusher in KHSAA history. Doug is the leading rusher at Belfry and that is all anyone can say about it. He didn't come no where close to 7,000 yards. I was hoping that West would end up at my alma mater, but he decided to go to Marshall. As a freshman Howard nor Rogers had 2,000 yards like West. Dontae was an option QB his senior year, and that is why he was dangerous. The majority of Howard's yards came against sub-par competition i.e. Pike Central, Shelby Valley, Magoffin Co, Sheldon Clark, East Ridge. West played tougher competition throughout his high school career. He was quicker, and more elusive than Howard. Both backs could run over you, but I know where you are coming from and why you see Howard as the best. If you sit back and actually watch the kids whole career you can understand why I pick West as being much greater than either Rogers and Howard.

Who did Lawrence Co. play that would make you think West played against tougher competition?

West is not the 2nd leading rusher in KHSAA history, but 7,000 yards is a lot. I never said it wasn't. Howard finished with 5,300 and a State Finals rushing record 278 yards. You're right, thats not impressive at all.

I saw West 5 times, Rogers about 10, and Howard plenty of times. And not one time did I think West was as good as Lawrence Co. fans make him out ot be. BTW...I'm not the only guy on here who said Howard.

West was a really good back, on an even better team. Howard and Jones, who I also think is better than West, were great backs on good teams.

[HappyGilmore]

CRAZYTAXIDRIVER


Micah was a freshman when I was a junior. He played mop-up games that year, but they were few and far between because we were 6-6. As a sophomore he split carries with leading-rusher Adam Eastwood and leading TD man Josh Stacy. I'd say Micah had 500-600 yards that year. He went off as a junior (2100 & 36 TDs) and had a really good senior year, too.

But as far as I know he didn't miss no more than 1 or 2 games throughout his career.

[HappyGilmore]

BTW......Me saying that Howard and Jones are better than West or any other RB may be because I have seen them make more plays than the others due to the fact I've watched them play more games

I realize that.

[crazytaxidriver]

CRAZYTAXIDRIVER


Micah was a freshman when I was a junior. He played mop-up games that year, but they were few and far between because we were 6-6. As a sophomore he split carries with leading-rusher Adam Eastwood and leading TD man Josh Stacy. I'd say Micah had 500-600 yards that year. He went off as a junior (2100 & 36 TDs) and had a really good senior year, too.

But as far as I know he didn't miss no more than 1 or 2 games throughout his career.


OK thanx for clearing that up. I personally didn't know. Just what I've heard.

[4leaf]

Im surprised no one remembers Chad Cure from Elkhorn City in '98. He led the state in rushing with well over 2000 yards.

[gish]

The last 4 years the best Rb's that I saw were as followed
1. Doug Howard
2. Matt Slone

Everyone else is too close to call.

[PHSFAN]

Im surprised no one remembers Chad Cure from Elkhorn City in '98. He led the state in rushing with well over 2000 yards.

Cure was a good RB but he wansn't on the level of Coleman and Howard byt he was a very good high school RB. He also had a very big and good FB in Kenny O'Quinn. Another Pike County RB that was good in the late 90s was Billy Peck from Phelps.

[blackcat]

The last 4 years the best Rb's that I saw were as followed
1. Doug Howard
2. Matt Slone

Everyone else is too close to call.

I agree.

[BaseballFan13]

Paul Sullivan was one of the best that has come through Pikeville in a while! Give him some more respect!

[Redneck]

Paul Sullivan was one of the best that has come through Pikeville in a while! Give him some more respect!

This thread ain't about the best RB's to come out of Pikeville in the last 10 years, it's the best to come out of the Mountains, BUT I did have him on my list from the beginning.

[MEDICINEMAN]

Scott Blair, SWHS 1998, Ball State... Lee Renfro, SWHS 2005, Ohio U...Brandon Newell (pawpaw), Somerset H.S. 2003, Thomas More College... I personally watched these guys for years and rank them the best I've seen over the last 10 years in this area. :)

[Amun-Ra]

B.J. Bryant from South Floyd.
didn't get much respect when he was playing. The boys was amazing to watch.

[bigblue_08]

brandon little from south floyd

[TATE_64]

Definitely B.J. Bryant, and maybe even throw in Ketrin Mays.......

[Big_Ben#7]

What about Ron Blume? Leading rusher with over 2,000 yards this past season

[Tomcat68]

What about Ron Blume? Leading rusher with over 2,000 yards this past season

Don't get me wrong, 2000 yards is a very nice season of rushing, but this was an overall down year for yardage rushers this season. Ashland has had 2 2000 yard backs in the last 9 years and neither won the state rushing title.

1997, Jason Nichols, 11 games, 216 attempts, 2088 yards, 9.7 YPC, 189.9 YPG

2001, Arliss Beach, 12 games, 248 attempts, 2532 yards, 10.2 YPC, 211.4 YPG

2005, Ron Blume, 10 games, 191 attempts, 2040 yards, 10.7 YPC, 204.0 YPG (doesn't include post season game against Madison Southern where I believe he had around 100 yards, but not sure on carries)

[easternkysportsguru]

West was the best RB in the mountains in the past 10 years, defenses were scared of this boy before they even got off of the bus. When they say #4, they were already beat.

[15thRegionCrazy]

The past 5 years--
Matt Slone- Pburg
Doug Howard- Belfry

[BC75]

The past 5 years--
Matt Slone- Pburg
Doug Howard- Belfry

Agreed
and also
Mikeal Fannin P-burg

[Black Eagle]

From Johnson Central...

Scott Salyer. Basically put the 2000 Golden Eagle team on his back and carried them, especially in the regular season finale against Boyd County (and that was one of the better high school football games I've ever seen). Had he not been injured in the second round against Tates Creek, it's hard to say what might've happened, as that game was 6-0 at halftime and Central had already beaten Tates Creek once that season in Lexington.

Mike Bowlin. Can't believe this name hadn't shown up yet. Had he not gotten injured against Bell County in the 1997 second round game on Log Mountain...Central was leading this game with two minutes left when he hurt his leg and had to come out, then the Bobcats "completed" their bouncing pass in the mud, and then ran right over Bowlin's vacated spot on defense to score their last-second winning touchdown. He's now in medical school at UK. Guy was incredible. I would've liked to have seen what he could've done on the college level somewhere, but he chose to emphasize academics (and I certainly can't argue with that).

[LEON]

I have watched football in eastern ky for over 10 years now and i have played also......The best back i have seen play is Howard from Belfry.  As a freshman he started fullback, as a sophmore split carries with Caudill, junior and senior year split carries with Jones.  He never was the go to back and still put up unreal #'s.  He had the speed to run by you and the strength to just run right over top of you. 

Other top backs would be Coleman, Jones, and West.

[Homer Simpson]

Doug Howard from Belfry

[dfblackcat53]

Jeremy Caudill played rb in high school????
yep..fullback i think..#48

[dfblackcat53]

My top RB's who I have saw/played against from the mountains in the last 5 years.

1. Doug Howard- He is the best back I have saw from the mountains
2. Mike West- Played for Lawrence County
3. Shawn Robbins- Played for Bell County
4. Jonathon Chapman- Played for Breathitt County/Few games for Pikeville
5. Jonah Caudill/David Jones- both great Belfry Rb's
6. Barret Rogers/Paul Sullivan- both great Pikeville Rb's
7. Michael Fannin/Joe Blackburn-both great Pburg Rb's
8. Durrel White- Played for Middlesboro
9. Dusty Hall- Played for Shelby Valley
10.Jared Frasure, Robert Shurtleff, Gary Childers, and there was a big guy from M iddlesboro but I do not remember his name. I thought I would throw out some of the guys who didn't get much attention, but were great Rb/Fb's


Where is matt slone? doesnt anybody remeber 01-over 2500 yards rushing

[BurntTires]

Doug Howard- Belfry
Matt Slone- Prestonsburg

[Mr. Right]

1. Doug Howard - Most complete back to come thru EKY in quite sometime. Excellent instincts, excellent speed, ferocious blocker, and a natural leader.
2. Jon Chapman - If we would have gotten to see him healthy his SR year, who knows?
3. Arliss Beach - Big, strong, and fast. Great RB on a good team.
4. David Jones - Fastest guy I have ever seen in pads.
5. John Ortega - As good a natural athlete that you will see in high school.
6. Brent Coleman - Hard runner and surprisingly elusive.
7. Michael West - Quick, fast, & agile.......Good back on a great team.
8. Marty Reagan - pound-for-pound as tough as any of these RBs.
9. Shawn Robbins - workhorse for the Bobcats for 3 years, despite weighing only 160 lbs.
10. Matt Slone - Punishing RB with good instincts.

[Matney's Prodigey]

This is a list that could be debated over and over with nobody coming up with the right answers. I'll give my list anyway tho:

1. Doug Howard- Belfry: The best football player to ever come out of tradition rich Belfry High School IMO. Was not the best athlete or the best college prospect, but was the best high school football player. Split carries his whole time at Pond Creek.
2. David Jones- Belfry: Was the second half of the best runningback tandem I have ever seen on a high school football field. The second fastest kid I have ever laid eyes on. An athlete capable of beating you in numerous ways. Split carries his whole time at Pond Creek.
3. Arliss Beach- Ashland: The smoothest of all the runners listed. He never seemed to be running hard but just kept pulling away from people. Played on a couple of pretty good Ashland teams.
4. Michael West- Lawrence Co: One of the more hard nosed runners on the list, but when you play for Chuke Williams you better run hard. I thought he was better as a sophmore and seemed to lose a step as he aged. Played on really good teams, but numbers speak for themselves.
5. John Ortega- P'burg: The backbone of the Prestonsburg Blackcats durring his time. He pretty much put them on his shoulders and took them where they needed to go. Was a 3 sport letterman (football, basketball, baseball) and all confrence in all 3 also in college (Centre) so he was pretty athletic you could say.
6. Jon Chapman- Breathitt/Pikeville: Maybe as good if not better than others listed, but the injury senior season drops him IMO. Still was a really really really good back.
7. Chris Jennings- Fairview: If you include Paul Blazer you have to include Fairview and this back is as good as you get at a small A school. Was a monster in the backfield. Carried Fairview on his broad back all year. UK scout said he was best rb in state just didn't have the head for college.
8. Marty Reagan- Rockcastle Co: An extremley quick back who was tough as leather. Was not very big but could deliver a blow like he was. Took Tom Larkey & Rockcastle to 2 consecutaive state title apperances only to meet with Boyle Co.
9. Shawn Robbins- Bell Co: A back that might have been made better by the system (much like West at Lawrence; but did not posess West's athleticism). He carried the load for Hilton and Co. Was hard nosed and ran with great awareness. Very seldom took shots due to his very good vision.
10. Matt Slone- P'burg: IMO not such a "GREAT" back, but was extremley athletic and had other threats to keep teams honest. Ran with a recklessness that was admirable, but seemed to lose composure to often. Was main back of 01 team that went to state finals.

Now this is only my top 10 list. You could add numerous other names, and 10 years is hard to judge, but I would take these 10 up against any 10 others could post. There have been alot of great backs it is a shame we can't praise each the way they deserve to be.

[Hold_'Em_King]

I don't see how you could leave my cousin Ron Blume out of the Top 5 let alone the Top 10!!! :ChairHit: He is one of the best if not thee best!

Even at 165 pounds, he was a complete back. He could get the hard yards, could block well, and obviously was a fantastic leader. No one could break a game open like Blume could in the past 10 years.

[Mr. Right]

Blume was a great RB, but I stand firm on my Top 10.:thumpsup:

[corndog23]

and obviously was a fantastic leader. .

Yeh he lead his team all the way to the first round!:) :) :)

[PLAYBOY5]

Brent Coleman in Pikeville in 1996!

[PLAYBOY5]

Doug Howard being A VERY CLOSE SECOND!

[LC99]

All good backs mentioned, I'm surprised Quentin Henson of Lynn Camp has not been mentioned. He is the 4th all time leader rusher in the state. Scott Chaney from Bell County was a very good back, as was Steven Cook from Corbin, Booby Joe Lawson from Whitley County, Jarrad Lawson from Corbin, Asher from Middlesboro, TJ Dunson from Harlan.

[NYY10]

Doug Howard- Belfry
Jonboy- Shelby Valley

[PantherPride68]

How can you not have Brent Coleman on that list?? Brent is the best RB to ever play at Pikeville High School. Well I just saw that you had the last 5 years my bad....Brent Coleman was a better RB than any RB on your list besides Howard and I don't think you could put Coleaman over Howard or visa versa.Did you know that according to the KHSAA record book Brent rushed for more yards than Shaun Alexander? I played with Brent, he was 2 years younger than me. He simply was the best back Ive ever seen. He was cat quick,had breakaway speed, and was deceptively powerful for his size. He was a hero on the field. But he died a real hero, defending our freedom. RIP#25

[alfus21]

I'm really surprised more people aren't mentioning Dusty Hall who played for SV in 1999...He was a touchdown machine scoring 54 that season...

[Mr. Right]

Did you know that according to the KHSAA record book Brent rushed for more yards than Shaun Alexander? I played with Brent, he was 2 years younger than me. He simply was the best back Ive ever seen. He was cat quick,had breakaway speed, and was deceptively powerful for his size. He was a hero on the field. But he died a real hero, defending our freedom. RIP#25

I REALLY, REALLY think the stadium ought to be named in his honor. I don't know the history of it being named W.C. Hambley, but Coleman deserves this honor IMO.

[alfus21]

I REALLY, REALLY think the stadium ought to be named in his honor. I don't know the history of it being named W.C. Hambley, but Coleman deserves this honor IMO.

Or maybe not the stadium, but the field at least would be a good idea...Brent Coleman Field

[PantherPride68]

I REALLY, REALLY think the stadium ought to be named in his honor. I don't know the history of it being named W.C. Hambley, but Coleman deserves this honor IMO.Mayor Hambley had a big hand in getting the complex built and the field is named after Hillard Howard, but I agree something needs to be named after Brent.

[Hold_'Em_King]

Yeh he lead his team all the way to the first round!:) :) :)

Only beating a team 35-28 when they had 5 turnoevers is pretty sorry. All you can say is that the Eagles played bad that night, Blume as well. And you can ask Madison Southern is they were scared. Like when they were up 21-7, they probably thought they had it in the bag; as well as their fans did too when they kept saying "Kick it to Blume" and "Blume sucks, Blume sucks"

They did kick it to him once the whole game and he broke that game back open.

And what for you to say? Who's your team?

[corndog23]

Regional runner up Sheldon Clark High School

[Tough Turf]

Only beating a team 35-28 when they had 5 turnoevers is pretty sorry. All you can say is that the Eagles played bad that night, Blume as well. And you can ask Madison Southern is they were scared. Like when they were up 21-7, they probably thought they had it in the bag; as well as their fans did too when they kept saying "Kick it to Blume" and "Blume sucks, Blume sucks"

They did kick it to him once the whole game and he broke that game back open.

And what for you to say? Who's your team?


No one ever want's to give any credit to JC

[corndog23]

Well, when they can win somethin...ill give em credit. but when you lose when you should not lose, what is supposed to make me give them credit.

[Tough Turf]

But why give Sheldon Clark High School credit when they dont stand a chance against belfry

[Tough Turf]

sheldon clark cant even beat Lawrence county (o but JC beats lawrence 43-0) sheldon clark cant even beat boyd county I think JC beat them also 27-47......:howdy: I guess sheldon clark was having a bad night....... Belfry/prestonsburg is the only two real teams in your district and at that you all beat p-burg.and what does that say about your all district and ours. Fighting a loseing battle:PirateSho

[Matney's Prodigey]

*Now why does everyone have to bash Sheldon Clark? Ron Blume had a GREAT year. There is no doubt about it. But the people mentioned on here have had great careers. Blume had a good junior year and a great senior year, but you can not say honetley that his junior and senior years compare close to those of Doug Howards 4 seasons and David Jones 2 seasons. Not to mention Beach, West, and so on. Now he was a very special back one of the best JC has had in a while, but he does not deserve to be on this list. If we had the 10 best single seasons then you could make an argument for him, but this is not a single season thread it is a career thread. Ron Blume was a great back, but I agree he did not quite deserve to be on this list.

*Now for the comments on Sheldon Clark. Ron Blume has 0 playoff wins under his belt. That is not a stat that GREAT backs have. Look at the people on my list. Everyone of them made good runs in the playoffs. Many walking on the field in Louisville. Ron Blume has yet to go to a second round game that he didn't buy a ticket for. So before you go thrashing SC for playing in the district they do you may want to look at your SUPERSTAR'S playoff record. I don't care what confrence you play in as long as you keep on playing when post season rolls around. You can compare scores all you want the bottom line is Blume never got it done when it mattered so he is on the outside of the list. Bashing SC won't make your case any better. SC had a great season. JC's started off great but finished a little disapointed (even tho you probabley had the best #3 seed in AAA in the state). No point in bad mouthing SC because of your bad luck.

[Mr. Right]

*Now why does everyone have to bash Sheldon Clark? Ron Blume had a GREAT year. There is no doubt about it. But the people mentioned on here have had great careers. Blume had a good junior year and a great senior year, but you can not say honetley that his junior and senior years compare close to those of Doug Howards 4 seasons and David Jones 2 seasons. Not to mention Beach, West, and so on. Now he was a very special back one of the best JC has had in a while, but he does not deserve to be on this list. If we had the 10 best single seasons then you could make an argument for him, but this is not a single season thread it is a career thread. Ron Blume was a great back, but I agree he did not quite deserve to be on this list.

*Now for the comments on Sheldon Clark. Ron Blume has 0 playoff wins under his belt. That is not a stat that GREAT backs have. Look at the people on my list. Everyone of them made good runs in the playoffs. Many walking on the field in Louisville. Ron Blume has yet to go to a second round game that he didn't buy a ticket for. So before you go thrashing SC for playing in the district they do you may want to look at your SUPERSTAR'S playoff record. I don't care what confrence you play in as long as you keep on playing when post season rolls around. You can compare scores all you want the bottom line is Blume never got it done when it mattered so he is on the outside of the list. Bashing SC won't make your case any better. SC had a great season. JC's started off great but finished a little disapointed (even tho you probabley had the best #3 seed in AAA in the state). No point in bad mouthing SC because of your bad luck.

Good post!:thumpsup:

[PantherPride68]

sheldon clark cant even beat Lawrence county (o but JC beats lawrence 43-0) sheldon clark cant even beat boyd county I think JC beat them also 27-47......:howdy: I guess sheldon clark was having a bad night....... Belfry/prestonsburg is the only two real teams in your district and at that you all beat p-burg.and what does that say about your all district and ours. Fighting a loseing battle:PirateSho Reckon you guys could start a JC vs SC thread and let us get back on topic PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Batpuff]

Well I know I an going to take it hard for this one but here we go. Oh bye the way I am sorry if i leave anyone out and dont have any stats for everyone.

1) Michael West - Lawrence Co.- 10th in the State all time in Scoring with 584 (1998-01), Is 8th in the State (career) in TD's with 95, Is 3rd in the State (career) in Rushing yards with 7,725 (the leader Derek Homer 8224), 10th in the state for rushing yards in a season with 2,727 in 1999., 9th all time in state in rushing yards in a game with 414 yards against BELFRY in 2000, also in 2000 was 8th in the state in rushing yards per game at 212.5, was 14th in the state in rushing attempts for a career with 758 from 1998-01, was 8th in the state for rushing TD's in a career with 93 from 1998-01. Also played injured his Jr and Sr year with a broken nose and a screwed up ankle.
2. Johnathan Chapman - Brethitt Co. and Pikeville most of it coming from the Bobcats. - 9th in points scored with 594 from 1995-1998, Total TD's with 99,rushing td's with 98. Chapman played on great Brethitt Co teams that passed the ball more than they ran the ball, and was a class act.
3. John Ortega(sp) Prestonsburg- was just unreal
4. Lee Abshire - Lawrence Co. I know that it has been more than 10 years for him but how can you throw his name in there just a great pleasure to watch and was just so hard to stop, Played tailback, WR, QB, and even fullback against Prestonsburg in the Playoffs his Senior Year.
5. Arliss Beach-Ashland- Was fun to watch, but did have games that he laid down in and just stopped playing, but those were very few maybe once his senior year, didnt like to take a hit but had unreal numbers and I wish him the best of luck with the Packers and he got Screwed @ UK .
6. Nick Meadows-Lawrence Co. Was just the hardest back to bring down, and the run against Brethitt Co when he broke 8 tackles and had like a 60 yard gain in the mud was the best run I have ever seen.

[Matney's Prodigey]

Well I know I an going to take it hard for this one but here we go. Oh bye the way I am sorry if i leave anyone out and dont have any stats for everyone.

1) Michael West - Lawrence Co.- 10th in the State all time in Scoring with 584 (1998-01), Is 8th in the State (career) in TD's with 95, Is 3rd in the State (career) in Rushing yards with 7,725 (the leader Derek Homer 8224), 10th in the state for rushing yards in a season with 2,727 in 1999., 9th all time in state in rushing yards in a game with 414 yards against BELFRY in 2000, also in 2000 was 8th in the state in rushing yards per game at 212.5, was 14th in the state in rushing attempts for a career with 758 from 1998-01, was 8th in the state for rushing TD's in a career with 93 from 1998-01. Also played injured his Jr and Sr year with a broken nose and a screwed up ankle.
2. Johnathan Chapman - Brethitt Co. and Pikeville most of it coming from the Bobcats. - 9th in points scored with 594 from 1995-1998, Total TD's with 99,rushing td's with 98. Chapman played on great Brethitt Co teams that passed the ball more than they ran the ball, and was a class act.
3. John Ortega(sp) Prestonsburg- was just unreal
4. Lee Abshire - Lawrence Co. I know that it has been more than 10 years for him but how can you throw his name in there just a great pleasure to watch and was just so hard to stop, Played tailback, WR, QB, and even fullback against Prestonsburg in the Playoffs his Senior Year.
5. Arliss Beach-Ashland- Was fun to watch, but did have games that he laid down in and just stopped playing, but those were very few maybe once his senior year, didnt like to take a hit but had unreal numbers and I wish him the best of luck with the Packers and he got Screwed @ UK .
6. Nick Meadows-Lawrence Co. Was just the hardest back to bring down, and the run against Brethitt Co when he broke 8 tackles and had like a 60 yard gain in the mud was the best run I have ever seen.

Not saying all these backs aren't deserving (they most definatley are), but how can you not include Doug Howard and David Jones somewhere? They are possibly the #1 & #2 choices. I don't see how you can leave them off totally.

[Batpuff]

Not saying all these backs aren't deserving (they most definatley are), but how can you not include Doug Howard and David Jones somewhere? They are possibly the #1 & #2 choices. I don't see how you can leave them off totally.

I didnt mean to leave them off, just ran out of time, but I really dont see them as the #1 and 2 they never put up career numbers like West did, The only reason Michael West didnt have a ring was because of the bone head coach. Now if they put up numbers like West did then I might think different.

[corndog23]

Dumb question but i dont know the answer to it. Where did Micheal West go to college?

[Batpuff]

Dumb question but i dont know the answer to it. Where did Micheal West go to college?

Marshall

[corndog23]

Marshall

Thank you batpuff:thumpsup:

[Tough Turf]

*Now why does everyone have to bash Sheldon Clark? Ron Blume had a GREAT year. There is no doubt about it. But the people mentioned on here have had great careers. Blume had a good junior year and a great senior year, but you can not say honetley that his junior and senior years compare close to those of Doug Howards 4 seasons and David Jones 2 seasons. Not to mention Beach, West, and so on. Now he was a very special back one of the best JC has had in a while, but he does not deserve to be on this list. If we had the 10 best single seasons then you could make an argument for him, but this is not a single season thread it is a career thread. Ron Blume was a great back, but I agree he did not quite deserve to be on this list.

*Now for the comments on Sheldon Clark. Ron Blume has 0 playoff wins under his belt. That is not a stat that GREAT backs have. Look at the people on my list. Everyone of them made good runs in the playoffs. Many walking on the field in Louisville. Ron Blume has yet to go to a second round game that he didn't buy a ticket for. So before you go thrashing SC for playing in the district they do you may want to look at your SUPERSTAR'S playoff record. I don't care what confrence you play in as long as you keep on playing when post season rolls around. You can compare scores all you want the bottom line is Blume never got it done when it mattered so he is on the outside of the list. Bashing SC won't make your case any better. SC had a great season. JC's started off great but finished a little disapointed (even tho you probabley had the best #3 seed in AAA in the state). No point in bad mouthing SC because of your bad luck.

Hey hey hey Matney's Prodigey did I pick a bone with you......no. just talking to corndog. For that matter do you think sheldon clark (if had played each other last season) could beat Johnson central??????:lmao: Dont say their in 3A......or they have a better coach...

[Mr. Right]

I didnt mean to leave them off, just ran out of time, but I really dont see them as the #1 and 2 they never put up career numbers like West did, The only reason Michael West didnt have a ring was because of the bone head coach. Now if they put up numbers like West did then I might think different.

Howard put app roximately 5500 & 90 Tds in 4 years & Jones approximately 3400 yards & 55 Tds in 2 years. They split carries with each other for 2 years and Howard split carries with Belfry's former all-time leading rusher Jonah Caudill.

West, Chapman, & Beach are interchangable with Howard & Jones, meaning that depending on who you ask either of those 5 could be argued legitimately as to which is best.

The others were pretty much "homer" votes. But thats OK, because most people on here have a little "homer" in them, myself included.

[Matney's Prodigey]

Hey hey hey Matney's Prodigey did I pick a bone with you......no. just talking to corndog. For that matter do you think sheldon clark (if had played each other last season) could beat Johnson central??????:lmao: Dont say their in 3A......or they have a better coach...

I never said they would have beat Central or that they had a better coach. Where did you see that in any of my posts? What I did say is that Blume has NEVER won a single playoff game so how can you claim him as the best back from the mountains? Great players win. That is the bottom line. Blume never got it done when it mattered most. He didn't have what it took to get the job done and he folded under pressure. End of Disscussion.
I also said that you were crying about how JC beat teams that beat SC, but your also fighting a losing battle bub since JC did make anearly departure from the playoffs where as SC did not. Don't get me wrong I am a HUGE fan of your coach (hence the name), but you are bad mouthing Sheldon Clark when you have no reason or right to. SC had a great year and you want to say they play in a soft district/class and that is the only reason they won. I know it must be hard on you having to go watch Sheldon Clark, Belfry, Paintsville and all the other teams from the mountains in the playoffs when you Eagles are practicing basketball. But that is no reason to bad mouth SC. They had a great year and thats all you can say. No point in getting tore up about it.

*You got beat SC didn't.

*Blume is not one of the top 10 backs from the mountains because he can't win big games.

That is all you need to look at. Figure it out.

[Hold_'Em_King]

Hate to tell ya there pal but Blume was the ONLY one to get it done when it mattered the most........his first 2 years they went a total of 3-17 and his Junior year they went 7-3 and didn't make the playoffs when some other team went 2-8 and made it.

And this passed year you can even ask the Madison Southern coach as he quoted to the newspapers, "we stopped Blume on the ground tonight, but he found other ways to win."

And ask Boyd Co.'s coach who he thinks is one of the best players he has ever seen play.............



I never said they would have beat Central or that they had a better coach. Where did you see that in any of my posts? What I did say is that Blume has NEVER won a single playoff game so how can you claim him as the best back from the mountains? Great players win. That is the bottom line. Blume never got it done when it mattered most. He didn't have what it took to get the job done and he folded under pressure. End of Disscussion.
I also said that you were crying about how JC beat teams that beat SC, but your also fighting a losing battle bub since JC did make anearly departure from the playoffs where as SC did not. Don't get me wrong I am a HUGE fan of your coach (hence the name), but you are bad mouthing Sheldon Clark when you have no reason or right to. SC had a great year and you want to say they play in a soft district/class and that is the only reason they won. I know it must be hard on you having to go watch Sheldon Clark, Belfry, Paintsville and all the other teams from the mountains in the playoffs when you Eagles are practicing basketball. But that is no reason to bad mouth SC. They had a great year and thats all you can say. No point in getting tore up about it.

*You got beat SC didn't.

*Blume is not one of the top 10 backs from the mountains because he can't win big games.

That is all you need to look at. Figure it out.

[Hold_'Em_King]

And you can't say just because he hasn't won a playoff game that he isn't one of the greatest in the mountains. That's just plain stupid.

An optimist would say that Blume dominated this year in a rebuilding program and helped lay the foundation for JC to be an upcoming powerhouse of 3A football.


I never said they would have beat Central or that they had a better coach. Where did you see that in any of my posts? What I did say is that Blume has NEVER won a single playoff game so how can you claim him as the best back from the mountains? Great players win. That is the bottom line. Blume never got it done when it mattered most. He didn't have what it took to get the job done and he folded under pressure. End of Disscussion.
I also said that you were crying about how JC beat teams that beat SC, but your also fighting a losing battle bub since JC did make anearly departure from the playoffs where as SC did not. Don't get me wrong I am a HUGE fan of your coach (hence the name), but you are bad mouthing Sheldon Clark when you have no reason or right to. SC had a great year and you want to say they play in a soft district/class and that is the only reason they won. I know it must be hard on you having to go watch Sheldon Clark, Belfry, Paintsville and all the other teams from the mountains in the playoffs when you Eagles are practicing basketball. But that is no reason to bad mouth SC. They had a great year and thats all you can say. No point in getting tore up about it.

*You got beat SC didn't.

*Blume is not one of the top 10 backs from the mountains because he can't win big games.

That is all you need to look at. Figure it out.

[Matney's Prodigey]

And you can't say just because he hasn't won a playoff game that he isn't one of the greatest in the mountains. That's just plain stupid.

An optimist would say that Blume dominated this year in a rebuilding program and helped lay the foundation for JC to be an upcoming powerhouse of 3A football.

I'd wait untill you won a playoff game before you call yourself a powerhouse.

He isnt one of the greatest RB's from the mountains because he chokes in big games. He can't win the big game. He chokes under pressure. That dosn't sound much like a top 10 rb to me. Sorry for your ignorace.

[Golden Eagle]

I'd wait untill you won a playoff game before you call yourself a powerhouse.

He isnt one of the greatest RB's from the mountains because he chokes in big games. He can't win the big game. He chokes under pressure. That dosn't sound much like a top 10 rb to me. Sorry for your ignorace.
What a shame. There was once a time when I enjoyed reading your posts Prodigey but your last three to four posts on this subject has sickened me. Your talking trash about a 17 or 18 year old kid who is also a member of this site and you want to call some one else ignorant. That's the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me on this subject. Pitiful just plain pitiful and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for acting so childish.

[Matney's Prodigey]

What a shame. There was once a time when I enjoyed reading your posts Prodigey but your last three to four posts on this subject has sickened me. Your talking trash about a 17 or 18 year old kid who is also a member of this site and you want to call some one else ignorant. That's the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me on this subject. Pitiful just plain pitiful and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for acting so childish.

I am not talking trash on him. If you look at my other posts I say he was a very good back and had a great senior season. I am stating why I think he does not deserve to be in the top 10. I did not call the other person ignorant because they think that way (I understand them feeling that Blume is a top 10 back) I am calling them ignorant because they are to shallow to see where I am coming from. Had they simply replied I see what your saying but simply disagree there would have been no problem. I have taken no shots at Blume. He was a good back and had a great senior year, but this is a career thing and his career did not measure up to the players on my list in my mind. There is no shame in saying a kid didn't win or didn't perform when it mattered most. I don't see how that is talking trash. That is calling it as I see it.

[corndog23]

What a shame. There was once a time when I enjoyed reading your posts Prodigey but your last three to four posts on this subject has sickened me. Your talking trash about a 17 or 18 year old kid who is also a member of this site and you want to call some one else ignorant. That's the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me on this subject. Pitiful just plain pitiful and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for acting so childish.

The shameful thing here is that you and your buddy hold em king fail to realize that if you want to be a top ten running back, OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD, In a big part of the state with many quality runners, then you HAVE TO WIN! thats all there is to it. He was a GOOD running back, but he lacks the clutch performances to carry his team to a playoff victory for me, or any unbiased poster, to call him great.

FWIW Golden Eagle, Matney's Prodigey is when of the most knowledgeable sports fans i know, and if you want to learn something.....keep readin his posts....

[Batpuff]

Howard put app roximately 5500 & 90 Tds in 4 years & Jones approximately 3400 yards & 55 Tds in 2 years. They split carries with each other for 2 years and Howard split carries with Belfry's former all-time leading rusher Jonah Caudill.

West, Chapman, & Beach are interchangable with Howard & Jones, meaning that depending on who you ask either of those 5 could be argued legitimately as to which is best.

The others were pretty much "homer" votes. But thats OK, because most people on here have a little "homer" in them, myself included.

I am not saying that they wasnt good backs, but none of Belfrys backs are even listed on the KHSAA web site with records, so to say that he put up 90 TD's in 4 years I dont know because hes not listed there, nor is is rushing yards. I am not taking anything away from them but I just dont think that either of them are as good as West was even Jonah Caudill. Jones was a good back but isnt even running the ball at UK. Even Beach ran the ball at UK who is also on my list.

Eastern Kentucky has produced so great running backs over the last 20 years.

Oh one more thing if he did have 90 TD;s its a shame a program like Belfry wont take the time and keep the stats updated with the KHSAA, you would think that they would.

http://www.khsaa.org/records/football/statefootballindividualrecords.pdf

[Golden Eagle]

The shameful thing here is that you and your buddy hold em king fail to realize that if you want to be a top ten running back, OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD, In a big part of the state with many quality runners, then you HAVE TO WIN! thats all there is to it. He was a GOOD running back, but he lacks the clutch performances to carry his team to a playoff victory for me, or any unbiased poster, to call him great.

FWIW Golden Eagle, Matney's Prodigey is when of the most knowledgeable sports fans i know, and if you want to learn something.....keep readin his posts....
FWIW pal, I don't have a clue who hold him king is,so he's not my buddy. I never once said that Ron Blume is one of the best in the past ten years I just thought it was pretty bad for a grown man to say that a senior in high school "chokes in big games", or "he can't win the big games", and " he chokes under pressure". I bet you Jim Matney don't believe he's a choker. Ron Blume and the rest of his senior pals stuck around and turned around a football program that for so many years was a complete joke. I would venture to say if you was in the exact same position you wouldn't have stuck around during that mess. Did you even play football in high school?

PS
In the future you can keep your advice to yourself. I'm a grown man and I don't need any help from a 19 year old boy. My previous post was to Matney's Prodigey and not to you . I think we cleared our differences but you have to go and poke your nose into it and start something else.

[bigcountry]

FWIW pal, I don't have a clue who hold him king is,so he's not my buddy. I never once said that Ron Blume is one of the best in the past ten years I just thought it was pretty bad for a grown man to say that a senior in high school "chokes in big games", or "he can't win the big games", and " he chokes under pressure". I bet you Jim Matney don't believe he's a choker. Ron Blume and the rest of his senior pals stuck around and turned around a football program that for so many years was a complete joke. I would venture to say if you was in the exact same position you wouldn't have stuck around during that mess. Did you even play football in high school?

PS
In the future you can keep your advice to yourself. I'm a grown man and I don't need any help from a 19 year old boy. My previous post was to Matney's Prodigey and not to you . I think we cleared our differences but you have to go and poke your nose into it and start something else. From what I have read, I think that the statement was made that he didn't play any sports. I think that either he or someone said once in a post that he was a cheerleader though.

[corndog23]

FWIW pal, I don't have a clue who hold him king is,so he's not my buddy. I never once said that Ron Blume is one of the best in the past ten years I just thought it was pretty bad for a grown man to say that a senior in high school "chokes in big games", or "he can't win the big games", and " he chokes under pressure". I bet you Jim Matney don't believe he's a choker. Ron Blume and the rest of his senior pals stuck around and turned around a football program that for so many years was a complete joke. I would venture to say if you was in the exact same position you wouldn't have stuck around during that mess. Did you even play football in high school?

PS
In the future you can keep your advice to yourself. I'm a grown man and I don't need any help from a 19 year old boy. My previous post was to Matney's Prodigey and not to you . I think we cleared our differences but you have to go and poke your nose into it and start something else.


Listen dude, from all the evidence that we have seen, ron Blume is a professional choke artist. Along with the rest of his crew. INCLUDING the coach...and i even like Jim Matney. Also if you read the whole thread, Matney's Prodigey stepped in to back me up, and i was returning the favor...so no i did NOT stick my nose into it...you put yours into it...


you can call me a boy all you want, i dont care, your probably some old dude who "the older you get, the greater you were" type deal. What were you, backup place kicker??
Also, I have one question for you, How do you know Matney's Prodigey is a grown man?:shh:

From what I have read, I think that the statement was made that he didn't play any sports. I think that either he or someone said once in a post that he was a cheerleader though.

:) :) :) No, sorry, wasnt a cheerleader. i did play sports though....

[corndog23]

By the way Golden Eagle, I dont know why you went off like that, because if you will read my post, i was in no way disrespectful to you....way to go sport.

[Golden Eagle]

Listen dude, from all the evidence that we have seen, ron Blume is a professional choke artist. Along with the rest of his crew. INCLUDING the coach...and i even like Jim Matney. Also if you read the whole thread, Matney's Prodigey stepped in to back me up, and i was returning the favor...so no i did NOT stick my nose into it...you put yours into it...


you can call me a boy all you want, i dont care, your probably some old dude who "the older you get, the greater you were" type deal. What were you, backup place kicker??
Also, I have one question for you, How do you know Matney's Prodigey is a grown man?:shh:
Way to show some class boy wonder. You couldn't wear Blume's jock and you call him a professional choke artist. What did you ever do on the football field to come on here and act all high and mighty? Did you Cheer or was you the H2O specialist? You say the same about Matney well that just shows how much credibility you have on here. He BUILT the Sheldon Clark football program and you say this about him. It's just sour grapes if you ask me. With fans like you it's know wonder he left.You still never answered my question. Did you even play high school football?

[Golden Eagle]

By the way Golden Eagle, I dont know why you went off like that, because if you will read my post, i was in no way disrespectful to you....way to go sport.
Thank you sport!

[Batpuff]

Well if it does not calm down in here it will be closed, so sport(s) do you get that.

[Tough Turf]

I never said they would have beat Central or that they had a better coach. Where did you see that in any of my posts? What I did say is that Blume has NEVER won a single playoff game so how can you claim him as the best back from the mountains? Great players win. That is the bottom line. Blume never got it done when it mattered most. He didn't have what it took to get the job done and he folded under pressure. End of Disscussion.
I also said that you were crying about how JC beat teams that beat SC, but your also fighting a losing battle bub since JC did make anearly departure from the playoffs where as SC did not. Don't get me wrong I am a HUGE fan of your coach (hence the name), but you are bad mouthing Sheldon Clark when you have no reason or right to. SC had a great year and you want to say they play in a soft district/class and that is the only reason they won. I know it must be hard on you having to go watch Sheldon Clark, Belfry, Paintsville and all the other teams from the mountains in the playoffs when you Eagles are practicing basketball. But that is no reason to bad mouth SC. They had a great year and thats all you can say. No point in getting tore up about it.

*You got beat SC didn't.

*Blume is not one of the top 10 backs from the mountains because he can't win big games.

That is all you need to look at. Figure it out.




''Great players win'' No IMO....great players have heart

[corndog23]

''Great players win'' No IMO....great players have heart

ok....so preston lemaster and adam williams were great players??? you know they had heart.....does thaat mean they were great?? no........way.....

[Hold_'Em_King]

How can you expect one single player to wina big game. How stupid can you be? You sound like a bunch of idiots who don't know a **** thing about the game. It is a TEAM EFFORT.

[Matney's Prodigey]

How can you expect one single player to wina big game. How stupid can you be? You sound like a bunch of idiots who don't know a **** thing about the game. It is a TEAM EFFORT.

Great players carry their teams to a victory, and it sounds like your trying to say Blume had no help on that team. JC was a pretty good football team. Now Blume was the straw that stirred the drink, but there was no shortage of talent on that team. Madison Southern was a good team no question about it. BUT, if Blume was one of the 10 best rb's he would have found a way to win. He would had strapped on a saddle and carried the Eagles into the second round. He didn't. That dosn't make him a bad player or a bad person (he is very good at both) it just keeps him off the list IMHO. Great players win. Jordan is considered great because he won. Montana is considered great because he won. Marino may hold the records but with out rings to go with it few experts consider him the greatest QB of all time. You have to win when it counts to be GREAT, and unfortunatley Blume did not.

[Tough Turf]

Great players carry their teams to a victory, and it sounds like your trying to say Blume had no help on that team. JC was a pretty good football team. Now Blume was the straw that stirred the drink, but there was no shortage of talent on that team. Madison Southern was a good team no question about it. BUT, if Blume was one of the 10 best rb's he would have found a way to win. He would had strapped on a saddle and carried the Eagles into the second round. He didn't. That dosn't make him a bad player or a bad person (he is very good at both) it just keeps him off the list IMHO. Great players win. Jordan is considered great because he won. Montana is considered great because he won. Marino may hold the records but with out rings to go with it few experts consider him the greatest QB of all time. You have to win when it counts to be GREAT, and unfortunatley Blume did not.

I agree with you totally. Blume was a great player no matter what anybody says. JC has all the talent they need to be winners.

[PantherPride68]

Great players carry their teams to a victory, and it sounds like your trying to say Blume had no help on that team. JC was a pretty good football team. Now Blume was the straw that stirred the drink, but there was no shortage of talent on that team. Madison Southern was a good team no question about it. BUT, if Blume was one of the 10 best rb's he would have found a way to win. He would had strapped on a saddle and carried the Eagles into the second round. He didn't. That dosn't make him a bad player or a bad person (he is very good at both) it just keeps him off the list IMHO. Great players win. Jordan is considered great because he won. Montana is considered great because he won. Marino may hold the records but with out rings to go with it few experts consider him the greatest QB of all time. You have to win when it counts to be GREAT, and unfortunatley Blume did not.Montana had Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott, Jordan had Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant. Not to mention the rest of the talented players on both these respective teams. This and this alone is why Montana and Jordan are viewed differently than Marino, he never had that luxury. I dont care how great a football player is, In this game no one person carries a team. Anyone who beleives this has watched too much sportcenter. If Montanas lineman didnt block or Rice didnt catch than no matter how much will to win that Joe had he couldnt have won because he cant block,throw and run all at the same time. Joe was a great leader of a great team. Im not saying blume didnt have a supporting cast at all, Im just saying that a true TEAM wins as a team and loses as a team and it is not fair to say that one person was the cause of it. Where Blumes place in history lays I dont know but the kid was a great back and I wish him well in college. It is just as unfair to a team to say that one player can win a game all by theirselves as it is to place all the blame on one player for losing a game.

[Tough Turf]

Montana had Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott, Jordan had Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant. Not to mention the rest of the talented players on both these respective teams. This and this alone is why Montana and Jordan are viewed differently than Marino, he never had that luxury. I dont care how great a football player is, In this game no one person carries a team. Anyone who beleives this has watched too much sportcenter. If Montanas lineman didnt block or Rice didnt catch than no matter how much will to win that Joe had he couldnt have won because he cant block,throw and run all at the same time. Joe was a great leader of a great team. Im not saying blume didnt have a supporting cast at all, Im just saying that a true TEAM wins as a team and loses as a team and it is not fair to say that one person was the cause of it. Where Blumes place in history lays I dont know but the kid was a great back and I wish him well in college. It is just as unfair to a team to say that one player can win a game all by theirselves as it is to place all the blame on one player for losing a game.



:thumpsup: great posts :thumpsup:

[crazytaxidriver]

Montana had Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott, Jordan had Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant. Not to mention the rest of the talented players on both these respective teams. This and this alone is why Montana and Jordan are viewed differently than Marino, he never had that luxury. I dont care how great a football player is, In this game no one person carries a team. Anyone who beleives this has watched too much sportcenter. If Montanas lineman didnt block or Rice didnt catch than no matter how much will to win that Joe had he couldnt have won because he cant block,throw and run all at the same time. Joe was a great leader of a great team. Im not saying blume didnt have a supporting cast at all, Im just saying that a true TEAM wins as a team and loses as a team and it is not fair to say that one person was the cause of it. Where Blumes place in history lays I dont know but the kid was a great back and I wish him well in college. It is just as unfair to a team to say that one player can win a game all by theirselves as it is to place all the blame on one player for losing a game.

great post :thumpsup:

[HazzBeen]

Great players carry their teams to a victory, and it sounds like your trying to say Blume had no help on that team. JC was a pretty good football team. Now Blume was the straw that stirred the drink, but there was no shortage of talent on that team. Madison Southern was a good team no question about it. BUT, if Blume was one of the 10 best rb's he would have found a way to win. He would had strapped on a saddle and carried the Eagles into the second round. He didn't. That dosn't make him a bad player or a bad person (he is very good at both) it just keeps him off the list IMHO. Great players win. Jordan is considered great because he won. Montana is considered great because he won. Marino may hold the records but with out rings to go with it few experts consider him the greatest QB of all time. You have to win when it counts to be GREAT, and unfortunatley Blume did not.

Sorry but you are wrong on this one. Barry Sanders to me is the best running back of all time, but had no team around him. Therefore, he never won a playoff game (i think). Does this make him not one of the best running backs of all time? I don't think so. Blume is a great running back hands down and I am not a Johnson Central fan at all.

[pay check]

DOUG HOWARD #1.....he had the all around game........no one could stop him.
COLEMAN#2.........he did have the power of howard

#3-#151 alot of good football players

BLUME #152

[t-cat50]

Arliss Beach

[Meaty]

you could make a case for Scottie Newell from Somerset... he set the all time rushing record for the Jumpers last year...

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Paintsville has had a couple great running backs in the past ten seasons:

Brock Taylor, David Peters, Matt Brown

[EKU_Colonel]

DOUG HOWARD #1.....he had the all around game........no one could stop him.
COLEMAN#2.........he did have the power of howard

#3-#151 alot of good football players

BLUME #152

#152? Please....maybe not top 5 but I could take you any day partner!:)

[Won in the Trenches]

DOUG HOWARD #1.....he had the all around game........no one could stop him.
COLEMAN#2.........he did have the power of howard

#3-#151 alot of good football players

BLUME #152
:yikes:
I think Blume deserves to be in that 3-151 category :notworthy

[pay check]

thats being nice......look at all of the great backs from p-ville,belfry,p-burg,bell co., plus alot of other school..give it up.......he couldn't play on alot of teams in the past 10 years

[pay check]

blume couldn't make the top 25 at pikeville or belfry

[Won in the Trenches]

never said he could, never said he couldnt..thats still just 50 players if you comined those 2 schools top 25..
blume deserves top 100- at least- IMO