Opinions on Shelby Valley

[KY BOI]

Whats going on at the valley, I know they lost a great group of boys, but shouldnt they still be more competitive???

[rain man]

they are down big time this year

[ACE]

Rebuilding year.

[basketballjones]

I have only seen one of their games this year and few from last year, and from what I have seen they run very poor sets on the offensive end and they don't play nowhere near the defense they did when Coach Rowe was there. The only reason they won the region last year was because of the experience and talent they had and their coach almost blew that.

[-STAT-]

I havent seen them play this year yet....but I am like everyone else this is a rebuilding year for the Wildcats....they lost alot of good talent from last year

[#_4]

Not what I thought they'd be.

[shafter9]

I havent seen them play this year yet....but I am like everyone else this is a rebuilding year for the Wildcats....they lost alot of good talent from last year
I agree... But the only got beat by Mag. by 5??? Who knows they can turn it around!! But hopefully not the game we play you all! GO CATS!!! :Guitar01:

[kyfootballfan]

Personally, last year, why Valley won the region was because Booher took the team that Rodney Rowe assembled and basically let them play and coach themselves..now that he doesn't have the talent of Kiser, Tackett, Friend, Bentley and Potter, he is lost out there..taking people out when they need to be left in the game, pressing when their is no need..too many mistakes on this coache's behalf..

[ACE]

Rodney Rowe has some big shoes to fill. Good coach

[TheCalc]

A rebuilding year?....No way, this team had the combination of some of the best Dorton and Virgie players a year ago, with these two feeder school teams starters combining all to play together as Shelby Valley. Its a funny thing to me along with anyone else who agrees that since Booher came to Shelby Valley almost every Dorton and Virgie player from last year has quit. Unless something happens I'm gonna predict that these players from Dorton and Virgie coming up to high school next year will be making the switch to be a panther. Booher reminds me somewhat of Tubby, he wins the year after Rodney leaves or in Tubby's case after Pitino leaving only to have success for one year due to the past coaches style of play.

[KY BOI]

There should be no such thing as a rebuilding year at valley with the talent they get from the feeder school, paintsville wasnt in a rebuilding year last year, with basically all freshman starters. and the same should go for valley considering they have even better feeder programs than paintsville

[Juice]

I agree with #4.. not what i expected from them

[ACE]

A rebuilding year?....No way, this team had the combination of some of the best Dorton and Virgie players a year ago, with these two feeder school teams starters combining all to play together as Shelby Valley. Its a funny thing to me along with anyone else who agrees that since Booher came to Shelby Valley almost every Dorton and Virgie player from last year has quit. Unless something happens I'm gonna predict that these players from Dorton and Virgie coming up to high school next year will be making the switch to be a panther. Booher reminds me somewhat of Tubby, he wins the year after Rodney leaves or in Tubby's case after Pitino leaving only to have success for one year due to the past coaches style of play.

Good comparison of the two coaches.

[bballcrazee]

I agree with everyone else. The fans from Valley wish they still had Rowe taking control of the team.

[have-it-ur-way]

Rodney Rowe should still be on the sidelines
but i think thecalc said it the best, booher just inheritated what rodney left
maybe now that everyone sees how good of a coach booher is not , maybe he will be out of here pretty soon
I dont see the middle school kids coming to valley next year if booher is still there

[have-it-ur-way]

Everyone considers this a rebuilding year, but actually valley had some good talent coming up booher just ran everyone of them off

[jack rabbits]

the old coach is gone so deal with it.are you one of those players that are walking the halls! sv will be fine!can you say ymca!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Do you think they will repeat as 59th district champs?

[bigmike06]

valley is having a rebuilding year, next year for them will be much better and more competative.

[have-it-ur-way]

Jack Rabbit-the old coach is gone so deal with it.are you one of those players that are walking the halls! sv will be fine!can you say ymca!
haha no chance
but since u mentioned ymca when i see valley play it kinda reminds me of a bunch of boys playing at the ymca since they dont use no set offenses, high-screen is the only thing they do and the rest is one on one

[TheCalc]

haha no chance
but since u mentioned ymca when i see valley play it kinda reminds me of a bunch of boys playing at the ymca since they dont use no set offenses, high-screen is the only thing they do and the rest is one on one

:lol:...... jack rabbits :served:

[rambo]

i think valley will be a good team this year and even better next year

[The Chosen 1]

Booher here's a little hint for you, no matter what school you go to your hated. GET OUT OF SV, now back to the topic I agree with have it your way, Booher still had talent at SV with the remaining players Rowe teached. He should not have won region last year, the players basically did what they wanted to with no coaching. Booher has ran off a bunch of good talent at Valley and then if someone wants to transfer from his team his uses his politics and is extremely dirty to the players, the guy has no character. Colby Newsome told me earlier this year he wanted to transfer to PC because of Booher but he wouldn't because of what happened to Bartley when he tried to leave. This guy is sad the two best athletes in the school dont even play (Goodson and Bartley) these guys are extremely athletic and his best true point guard (Donovan Bentley) doesn't even play either. Bentley,Newsome,Bartley,Goodson, Justin Smith, Gage Phillips and Jordan Price dont play anymore , other schools would love to have these players representing their school. All of this talent at Valley is going to waste because of him.

7 PLAYERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give me

Price/Phillips 5
Newsome- at the 4
Goodson- the 3
Bartley- the 2
Bentley- the point

And I could beat Valley's starting 5 easy.
If any coach in the 15th had this line up they could beat anyone trust me.
This same line up with the exception of the 5 spot was the best JV TEAM EVER at SV ask (Doe Doe) when these guys where underclassmen.

[jack rabbits]

THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED!BOOHER WON THE REGION AND STILL GETS KICKED IN THE HEAD.YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A LIFE BECAUSE YOUR PLAYING DAYS ARE OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Sad04:

[basketballjones]

Did he win the region or did the players that played win the region? With the talent they had nobody should have came close to them, but as the season went on they got worse. That program is on a downhill swing, the few games I have seen the coaching is very questionable. Last year at state I was sitting with some coaches and they couldn't figure out what he was trying to do against Henry Clay, and as the score told he couldn't either. Some of their fans told me that HC only beat them like 8 points in the preseason of that year and another sign they only got worse.

[Sony33]

Good Team, strong, fast, versatile, but i agree, they should be more competitive.

[kyfootballfan]

Booher here's a little hint for you, no matter what school you go to your hated. GET OUT OF SV, now back to the topic I agree with have it your way, Booher still had talent at SV with the remaining players Rowe teached. He should not have won region last year, the players basically did what they wanted to with no coaching. Booher has ran off a bunch of good talent at Valley and then if someone wants to transfer from his team his uses his politics and is extremely dirty to the players, the guy has no character. Colby Newsome told me earlier this year he wanted to transfer to PC because of Booher but he wouldn't because of what happened to Bartley when he tried to leave. This guy is sad the two best athletes in the school dont even play (Goodson and Bartley) these guys are extremely athletic and his best true point guard (Donovan Bentley) doesn't even play either. Bentley,Newsome,Bartley,Goodson, Justin Smith, Gage Phillips and Jordan Price dont play anymore , other schools would love to have these players representing their school. All of this talent at Valley is going to waste because of him.

7 PLAYERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give me

Price/Phillips 5
Newsome- at the 4
Goodson- the 3
Bartley- the 2
Bentley- the point

And I could beat Valley's starting 5 easy.
If any coach in the 15th had this line up they could beat anyone trust me.
This same line up with the exception of the 5 spot was the best JV TEAM EVER at SV ask (Doe Doe) when these guys where underclassmen.



Well for one thing...there's two kids Booher didn't run off...and that is Jordan Price and Kyle Goodson...Jordan Price is transfering schools..I havea heard he's going to East Ridge...not 100% sure though..but Kyle just didn't want to play..he got tired of it after a while..yes he may be very athletic..but he just didn't have the love to play.

However, I do agree, in my opinion Booher is not a good coach and Moberly would make a lot better coach than Booher, several members of the team have told me they think this also. I also agree that he has ran off a lot of good talent, and I'm hearing that two more great athletes could leav before a day at the Valley if Booher isn't gone. Something needs to be done about Booher, all he did last year was let Rodney Rowe's team go out there and play...

[The Chosen 1]

Ok I don't know if he ran Price away or not, but if he's transferring I don't know what else to call it, listen I'm going to put it to you like this. When Colby Newsome quits your team, you have a giant problem because Colby is one of the easiest guys to get along with, the guy would play for Fred Damron he was the head coach at SV. So when he quits you have a problem because Colby would play for anyone. Booher doesn't even know what talent is, you can't just play the players you like, you'll see where that gets you. And as far as games go theres no set offensive plays. A high pick and roll thats it, and im not not even going to mention defense because there's nothing to talk about.

Oh yea by the way Gary Thomas who does play right now QUIT also last year in the 2nd half of the season. But he decided to come back out for the team this year, good luck to him. But that's 9 players now that quit at one time or another and you still have to mention the departure of Kiser last year season. This many players don't quit just for no reason.

[jack rabbits]

Valley will continue to win.I think they should bring in Bobby Knight to fix the problem at SV.No, they would want him gone too!

[BelfryPride]

Valley is going through a rebuilding year....Those things happen

[have-it-ur-way]

I heard a few more players might have quit recently
Has anyone else heard anything like this ?
But looking back at jack rabbits comments, I think the shelby valley team deserves someone thats going to be fair to every kid, and not have behind the scene's meeting's with certain parents.

[TheCalc]

YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A LIFE BECAUSE YOUR PLAYING DAYS ARE OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Sad04:

I don't understand you jack rabbits, I don't know who you are, how old you are or if you've ever played a sport in your life, and if you have played a sport, you and I both know what it feels like to go out in front of a packed gym, stadium, etc... and play the game that you love more than anything in the world and to leave it all on the floor and it is sad that the ones who love it can not and I repeat can not play because of what has went on at this place. You don't know half the story of this place from the politics to the behind closed doors meetings with players parents to satisfy them, which leaves no room for the players who bust their butts at practice to get any playing time due to these little conferences or meetings as I would say. I agree with what you said here Mr.Jack Rabbits--here let me quote it for you, Your playing days are over!!!!!!!!!!!!...Yes you are right here the playing days are over for these guys, or no im sorry their playing days never even begun because they were never given the chance. Listen I could set here and type endless amounts of negativitiy and what has went on at this place and it more than likely wouldn't even change a thing about how you feel, but what im saying is before you get on here saying something like this again think before you type it because how do you think the boys that would love to be on that floor playing feel like when they get on here and read about their playing days being over when all they were after was a DREAM of playing basketball, the same dream that someone else doesn't seem to see that being you.

[have-it-ur-way]

Jacks Rabbit I think your just :Hammer3: hurting yourself posting on this subject. It might be best if you go worry about some other sport for a while.:golf:

[basketballjones]

Good win for Betsy Layne, bad coaching job by Shelby Valley. Their coach looks like he doesn't have a clue.

[jack rabbits]

boys will be boys!if you guys wanted to play BAD enough, you would not let the coach keep you from playing.I played ball and wasn't crazy about the coach.I loved the game and I didn't start either.You guys can blame the coaches all you want but that is a weak excuse:Geek: Speaking of other sports maybe you can try soccer or track:BigLaugh: I know what you can :moon:

[BasketBallonlyfan]

What is Valleys record to date, 3-3?? How many years has it been that valley has started off like they are this year? Pre-Rodney years maybe?

[THE BUS]

Idk but it doesn't llok good if they keep playig like this school of david is going to beat them

[kyfootballfan]

Idk but it doesn't llok good if they keep playig like this school of david is going to beat them


That's pushing things a little too far..lol

[504 boy]

hey, anything can happen on any night.....
:ref2:

[DTA]

I hear this all of the time up left Beaver, "Coach Martin runs the best players off." Those same players he runs off could not be the go to guy in a one on one tournament. They score a few points in gym class against some premier band students and suddenly they need A shoe contract! Sounds like we have a couple of gym class stars on here. :champ: Good luck in 3rd period!

[TheCalc]

You guys can blame the coaches all you want but that is a weak excuse:Geek: Speaking of other sports maybe you can try soccer or track:BigLaugh: I know what you can :moon:
Their not blaming the coaches just one coach or if thats what you want to call him, because the definition of a coach is discipline, leadership, and a somewhat knowledge of knowing the game. Oh yeh but on the other sports thing I was thinking more of horseshoes or hand grenades.

[DTA]

:Sad04: :Sad04: :Sad04: :Sad04: Quit crying and play ball. Gee whiz Calc, I am starting to feel sorry for you:baby:

[TheCalc]

I like to call it telling the truth, oh and me play ball lol maybe 25 years ago back in my prime, im just telling what I know from my inside sources.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

How many players did valley have quit this year that played last year?

[jack rabbits]

This is the rabbits last stand:graduate: The people of SV has run off alot of coaches :bike: It's time for the parents to leave the coaching to the coaches:beg: If the players at SV is that good I'm sure they could find another place to PLAY.The RABBIT has spoken :BigLaugh: see you all in the brushes!:mad:

[have-it-ur-way]

I hear this all of the time up left Beaver, "Coach Martin runs the best players off." Those same players he runs off could not be the go to guy in a one on one tournament. They score a few points in gym class against some premier band students and suddenly they need A shoe contract! Sounds like we have a couple of gym class stars on here. :champ: Good luck in 3rd period!



I would take Kyle Goodson (an ex-basketball player) over anyone on Shelby Valley's team in a one on one tournament

[DortonWildcat5]

I would take Kyle Goodson (an ex-basketball player) over anyone on Shelby Valley's team in a one on one tournament



I would too, but Kyle isn't playing. That's his choice. I coached Kyle for 4 years in grade school, and both of his last 2 years it was always a question whether Kyle was going to play or not. He just does not have a love for the game. Once he steps on the floor, he plays harder than anyone, but he just doesn't love it. Nothing in basketball would make me more happy than to see Kyle play because I love watching him play more than anyone I have ever coached, but I guess he just doesn't want to play. I don't think it is the coach, because I heard he might not play when I coached, when Rodney was the coach, and now that Booher is the coach. The coach might be the case with the other players, but I don't think it is with Kyle.

[DTA]

Sounds like no heart or his heart into something else. See 'em like that daily up lefft Beaver. Just to be honest it sounds like parents want to coach more in the 15th region than the coaches?

[i-dono]

only fan...jason booher ran off the BEST player in the mountains last year in Seth Kiser...he was wymt's player of the year when he was a junior, and would have been last year. Great stratagy coach booher!...get rid of the best...thats what I would do!

[thetribe]

Rebuilding year, whether you say it is or not.
They lost their mature, experienced talent.
They gained from feeder schools but those boys do not have the age, playing time, and just overall knowledge of how HIGH SCHOOL Varsity ball is.
It will take a bit to get them in the hang of that but once they do, they should be fine.
Valley always has a very tough program to deal with.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Rebuilding year, whether you say it is or not.
They lost their mature, experienced talent.
They gained from feeder schools but those boys do not have the age, playing time, and just overall knowledge of how HIGH SCHOOL Varsity ball is.
It will take a bit to get them in the hang of that but once they do, they should be fine.
Valley always has a very tough program to deal with.
I will agree that they dont have the experience in the high school level. But they should have gotten some experience last year insead of SV being worried about blowing everyone out of the gym. Let the underclassmen play for your next years team if you are handling teams easily with your seniors.

[Achilles]

I will agree that they dont have the experience in the high school level. But they should have gotten some experience last year insead of SV being worried about blowing everyone out of the gym. Let the underclassmen play for your next years team if you are handling teams easily with your seniors.
Isn't that what JV and Freshman team is for? To build you up as a high school player.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Yes it is, but if your seniors are winning by 30+points in the 4th quarter, why not let the underclassmen get a taste of what varsity ball is like. There is a great big difference in a JV or freshman game compaired to a varisity game. Last year, SV had all the talent in the world. They played the talented players over and over for the whole game when they could have played there juniors and sophmores to get them varsity experience.

[TheCalc]

Yes I agree with you basketballonlyfan, when I attended the games last season they never played the sophmores or juniors as much as they did seniors and freshman.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I think that and a couple other things are gonna come back and bite them on the.... well, you know where

[TheCalc]

Basketballonlyfan pm me and tell me about these other things and ill try and fill you in.

[basketballjones]

They got two starters back from last year in Mitchell Riddle and Johnson. The other Riddle boy saw alot of minutes as did the Bryant kid and Jackson got playing time in the regional. They have experience and I don't see it as rebuilding, just a coach with no offensive plays that seems lost in the game and can't make no adjustments. Biggest team in the region and they should take advantage of that instead of throwing up threes all the time. If it stays the same at the Valley, Pikeville or Pike central will be happy next year from what I am hearing.

[The Dork]

They do have a talented group of boys... but I don't believe they are anything like last years bunch. I believe there are too many of them that really don't have the heart to play???? The boys that are playing now have big shoes to fill... and I agree with the fact that some of the younger players didn't get much of an opportunity to experience time in a varsity game. Hopefully we'll see a turn around some time soon.

[SuperStar]

If it stays the same at the Valley, Pikeville or Pike central will be happy next year from what I am hearing.

Go ahead and say it. You've heard that if Booher is the coach next year that Ashley Hatfield and Bacon Newsome will not go to SV. If that's the case then I say let them go... I hate to see players and parents have such influence on administrative decisions, but that seems to be the norm at SV...

[kyfootballfan]

Go ahead and say it. You've heard that if Booher is the coach next year that Ashley Hatfield and Bacon Newsome will not go to SV. If that's the case then I say let them go... I hate to see players and parents have such influence on administrative decisions, but that seems to be the norm at SV...


I think this is what everyone has heard..Taylor and Ashley will be heading to Pikeville...

[The Dork]

Why are they going to Pikeville?
Not for basketball... right?

[PHSFAN]

SV needs to get a coach that can come in and run his program, which is probably harder at SV than any other school in the area. On the bright side though I like seeing all the talented kids from Dorton and Virgie coming to Pikeville...by all means keep them coming...lol.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I think they need Rodney back... or better yet, I bet they wish they never let him go

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Go ahead and say it. You've heard that if Booher is the coach next year that Ashley Hatfield and Bacon Newsome will not go to SV. If that's the case then I say let them go... I hate to see players and parents have such influence on administrative decisions, but that seems to be the norm at SV...
So you all think those two players are bigger than the program at SV?? That sounds kinda strange to me.

[SuperStar]

So you all think those two players are bigger than the program at SV?? That sounds kinda strange to me.

Nope... exactly the opposite. Those two players would only be pieces of what could be a very nice team over the next few years. If they choose to go somewhere else then so be it...