View Full Version : Why are south floyd girls so down?
900 WATTS
02-07-2005, 01:01 PM
what is it ?? y are they ?
they have all the talent why isn't it showing?
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 01:05 PM
b/c they just do.... they have no talent u have no idea wat u r tlaking baout talent
dontdoattoem
02-07-2005, 01:05 PM
I really don't have a clue what to say, I just think that they are playing way too passive.....I think all the girls need to play more agressive and look for their shot first instead of looking for Trammell
South_21
02-07-2005, 01:08 PM
South Floyd is not a bad team. They have a lot of talent and they just need to pull it together fast! I agree with dontdoattoem.....He's exactly right.
900 WATTS
02-07-2005, 01:08 PM
i think that south floyd girls do have talent .. u need to give ur self alil bit of info... Lady Raiders would be good if they would get their head in the game
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 01:10 PM
let me guess u all play for south floyd so ur teaming me .. well they pure out have no talent or coach yeha the have young talent but no coach
dontdoattoem
02-07-2005, 01:11 PM
Man, you just joined the site and you're already dogging someone! gee-o!
900 WATTS
02-07-2005, 01:12 PM
yeah ok i guess ur so smart in all u can't even spell yeah?? ok so people are actually going to listen to ur opinion ???? :twisted: :x
South_21
02-07-2005, 01:12 PM
So you are saying Tabitha Trammell has no talent...yet she's ranked as one of the top scorers in the state???? Yeah...dat a boy!
:shock:
dontdoattoem
02-07-2005, 01:13 PM
No Talent? Last time I checked Trammell was avg. around 20 and 10, hey that's one heckuva avg. for 32 minute games!
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 01:18 PM
i avg. more than that in my sleep.... trammell talent hahaha... none of them can hit a car and it sittin right in front of them... i guess if u all sya they have talent :?:
dontdoattoem
02-07-2005, 01:20 PM
Man you are full of yourself
South_21
02-07-2005, 01:22 PM
Ok
Basketballer
02-07-2005, 05:37 PM
lol...Trammel is byfar the only player on that team that has talent.The coach has nothing to do with it.It's called lack of talent....Trammell is the only player that even has varsity experiance at all.....SF will be tough in the future..The have some nice youg players.....
xtreme3
02-07-2005, 07:11 PM
Trammell is not the only play with varsity experience! Blocker and Gregory has varsity experience too, just because Trammell started for three or four years means that she has a little bit more but that doesn't mean that's she's the only one with talent. I think SF's problem is they have too many middle schoolers running it and no where near enough high school players. Middle school and High school is two totally different games and you can'tp ut a bunch of kids out there after they just finished their middle school season and expect them to be agressive enough or even capable of automatically playing at varsity level. Until those girls gorw up and get more agressive and stop thinking of high school as middle school I don't see SF having a winning season. They few high schoolers they have are pretty good I think...the only problem is they need more! I have like 1 sophmore and 4 seniors...I don't even know how many freshman stayed but they're not capable of playing at varsity level yet either.
Basketballer
02-07-2005, 07:29 PM
Trammell is not the only play with varsity experience! Blocker and Gregory has varsity experience too, just because Trammell started for three or four years means that she has a little bit more but that doesn't mean that's she's the only one with talent. I think SF's problem is they have too many middle schoolers running it and no where near enough high school players. Middle school and High school is two totally different games and you can'tp ut a bunch of kids out there after they just finished their middle school season and expect them to be agressive enough or even capable of automatically playing at varsity level. Until those girls gorw up and get more agressive and stop thinking of high school as middle school I don't see SF having a winning season. They few high schoolers they have are pretty good I think...the only problem is they need more! I have like 1 sophmore and 4 seniors...I don't even know how many freshman stayed but they're not capable of playing at varsity level yet either.
So what you ate saying that SF's middle schoolers arent capable of playing?lol thats funny because they are alot of teams in this region that have middle schooler's playing, some even starting...
xtreme3
02-07-2005, 08:16 PM
The middle schoolers at other places have prolly been at this for a couple years and have grown and they probably have a coahc working with them, making them better. SF doesn't have that or not that I can see. I played and not once did I see the coach pushing the little girl's to do better, they let them play ball the same way they played in middle school and you can't do that in high school at a varsity level. At any rate I'm not saying that not every middle schooler is capable because I know some that are capable of playing varisty I'm just saying that you got 7th graders that jump straight into varsity and totally skip freshmen and jv which I think should come before varsity is ever even thought about with them. I think it should be that varsity is left up to juniors and senior and maybe sophmores...but no one seems to do it like that anyone.
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 09:35 PM
i was just joking with you all south floyd does have alot of talent trammell rocks .... and trammell rocks but there is also other players on the team which have talent but never has anyone to work with them to make them better.. Gregory,Blocker,Dean,Hall, they all have talent if i do not recall.. i do believe Trammell,Gregory, Hall, Blocker, Pam Younce (out b/c og knee). Played in the Middle School and had a losing season and came back at disrict tourn. and beat and undefeated team... Sf girls have plenty of talent they just need to be worked with and get there stuff together... but i am sorry about before i was doing it to agorvate south_21 and they know who they are!! :wink: With that said those players who also has talent never get any attention ... but o well .. go lady raiders .. u can do anything u all put ur heads too. :) wav.gif
900 WATTS
02-07-2005, 09:43 PM
agree with you give'emalilbit ! 8)
xtreme3
02-07-2005, 09:52 PM
I agree too. You really had us going there...I do believe if it had kept going me and Basketballer would've fought it out in the end...lol...
web-foot woe
02-07-2005, 09:53 PM
Trammel is a top player in the region maybe top 5 on another team.
Hall tries really hard but sitting out two years is hard to come back from.
center out taking threes is uncalled for needs to be down low posting but does not like the contact (lazy). Gregory has been a back up to noodle for so long its hard to take control of the team. coach might need to look at starting trammel at center, Damron at forward, C.Hall at forward. Gregory at 2 and K.Hall at point. start looking at the furtue because everyone know seems to be out for themselves and wine everytime coach isaac takes them out.
hippo's hope
02-07-2005, 09:56 PM
I think Coach Isaac has did a good job with this team considering they lost so much to graduation and who knows they could pull a rabitt out of the hat and make the regional.
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 11:03 PM
k.hall does not need to be 1 guard she doesn't have enough varsity experience she is use to middle school dribbling down the floor with her head down yeah she has an awesome shot. but i don't believe he should put k.hall as 1 ... r u sayign that gregory has had ousleys back for so long what makes u think that k.hall can come and take ousleys spot... Gregory would be much better if they would have worked with her while she was younger but never had that.. And i don't argee with trammell playing center... trammell does an awesome job at 3 she can shoot out side... :idea:
theforgotten
02-07-2005, 11:36 PM
Well if anyone has watched any of the games. SF girls has the only coach that sits flat of his rear and doesn't do anything he doesn't scream out plays or anything, the sits there with a blank look on his face... I think after last year he just quit coaching thinking he wouldn't have a team this year so he don't care. Now all he is worried about is his future. He should work with what he has. Because they are a good team, they just need a coach to help them...I think they need the new Vice principal in there. So don't blame it on the team blame it on the coach. You have to work with your players, you can't just put them on the floor and say play.. He needs to get up off his rear and let the girls know he is there and he is behind them all the way.. Instead of pulling them out when they do one thing wrong, the seventh grader have forever to play.. this is the seniors last year let them play.. and work with them, just because he lost alot last year doesn't mean anything... IT'S THE COACH...NOT THE PLAYERS!!!!!!
Give'emalilbit
02-07-2005, 11:40 PM
i agree... i think that issac needs to be more like barry hall or henry webb and stand behind their team!
15thRegionCrazy
02-08-2005, 12:17 AM
The only person on South Floyd's team with any talent is Trammel..If the rest had talent I don't think they would be losing games by such a big margin....
Give'emalilbit
02-08-2005, 12:23 AM
i think that they do have talent .... it is that trammell has had experience and had peopl work with her while the others haven't so.. yeha they do have plenty of talent no one has helped them with it! :twisted:
15thRegionCrazy
02-08-2005, 12:37 AM
Other than Trammel ...who has talent????
Give'emalilbit
02-08-2005, 12:53 AM
there is plenty of talent on that team how many freaking times do i have to sya it there is talent but noone knows it b/c no will work with them to help them show it.... GREGORY,BLOCKER,HALL, DEAN, and many more... but there is no help for them to show it???????
15thRegionCrazy
02-08-2005, 12:57 AM
I don't think any of those people have any talent.. no matter who the coach is.... but that's my opinion and i guess it's different than yours...
Jesus Shuttlesworth
02-08-2005, 12:58 AM
maybe Marson just cant coach girls..lol
Cats Fan
02-08-2005, 01:00 AM
Nobody has any talent except Trammel!
web-foot woe
02-08-2005, 08:33 AM
Trammel has all the talent and Candice has a little but missing two years hurt her a lot. The other three starters was not for the lack of work but the lack of wanting to improve, if you can not improve by practicing against the group that just graduated then you did not work hard enough in practice to get better. I have seen coach Isaac work with each girl on shooting getting in the post and going left or right handed and in the game they listen more to the crowd. So i would start playing the younger players that want to be their and yes start K hall becuase she and trammel are the only scores on the team. I cheer for the raiders and like all the girls but just the truth is Tab. Trammell is the only talented player left and T. Tackett could have helped a lot if she had not decide to sit this season out.
hippo's hope
02-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Tony has done a great job with this team and its scheduling, they will win around 8 or 9 on the season and you can only run your system if you have the players to. So their style had to change compaired to last year and hopefully by district tournament they will have it down. Anyone thinking about coaching changes is crazy, look what he has in his system about 8 young girls that can play and to start changing coachs will take them back to how it used to be. new coach ever year.
South_21
02-08-2005, 09:44 AM
It's so nice to see so much support for the Lady Raiders, their players and coach. Especially from former South Floyd players....Its rather amusing. Well, it's no secret I do play for SF and in the words of the "famous" Coach Isaac "We don't care". If we can't get support from former students nad present teachers we don't won't it :cry: . We get plenty of support from our teammates and Coaches. To address the talent issue thats your opinion and see the above comment. We wouldn't trade any member of our team for any player in the 15th. To all those who have supported us, we thank you.
:)
Basketballer
02-08-2005, 12:08 PM
maybe Marson just cant coach girls..lolWhat does he have to do with this?
Give'emalilbit
02-08-2005, 12:42 PM
I don't think u should say that no one has talent on the team i think that they do.. you can say that all u want to and yes i am also a player on the team and that offends me that u say that i don't have talent and that no does besides trammell and candice .. so yeah anyways
theforgotten
02-08-2005, 12:50 PM
i think that they do have talent
web-foot woe
02-08-2005, 12:55 PM
hope the girls will use all of this and go out and prove something tonight. this is how everyone talkedd about the boys early in the season and know say they have a shot. Blocker and Gregory have experence but need to show everyone else how they can play. take all of these anger and turn it into a big win over B.L. good luck girls :!:
South_21
02-08-2005, 01:13 PM
Well....I can't believe it...We got a positive reply from William Bonney!!! Good luck in the game tonight against BL. :D
fathomie36
02-08-2005, 01:17 PM
i am a huge raider fan!
I'm sorry but I don't think Coach Isaac has done a great job with scheduling. Most of the time you schedule tough teams so that you can get better...not teams like Jackson City, Riverside Christian, JBS, & Cordia. They refused to play Pikeville this year...probably because it would have been a big joke. I'm not going to say that Trammell is the only player on the team with talent, but she is definitely the best. Tab Tackett would have helped out a lot and the other girls just lack experience. I'm a graduate of South Floyd and a former girls basketball player there, but I certainly won't support them after being stabbed in the back numerous times...but no reason to bring up the past so good luck ladies in the rest of the season.
Basketballer
02-15-2005, 01:44 AM
Tony is doing the best he can with what he has....The lack of experiance comes from these girls not playing JV and freshman games when they were younger
I'm not saying that he isn't doing a good job with what he has...I'm just saying the scheduling is very weak.
Turkish
02-15-2005, 08:55 PM
I have had 2 chances to watch this team play.
I personally would say this team is the offspring of what happens when you have a freshmen class that everyone thinks will be the savior of a program.
Unfortunatly they never panned out for what ever reason.
They over acheived in the dist tourney as freshmen and then the magic disappeared, and so did players
I saw them play a few times each year and I saw more and more questions rather than answers.
You can't point fingers it does no good.
So today you have trammel who has experience and is by far the best player.
Gregory, Blocker and Hall are seniors by name only, not by experience, Dean has never appeared to enjoy playing.
Issac has done all that can be expected he has played teams that he can be competitive with.
South floyd will build for the future, Issac and company will build a winning program in time.
Enjoy the season girls what is left of it.
Good luck.
And cali you said it best, each time i saw the team i saw someone who was upset, when you have turmoil nothing good happens.
I read post on other sites concerning the team and what i saw was a lot of hurt feelings and bitterness.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
02-15-2005, 11:55 PM
wait, does Marson even coach anything at south floyd?
Basketballer
02-16-2005, 12:40 AM
wait, does Marson even coach anything at south floyd?
I dont think that he does
The seniors now were in grade school when South Floyd won the districts. Trammell and Tackett were the only ones on the team that year. The freshmen that year were Megan Ousley, Brandy Anderson, Ashley Johnson, Sharee Hopkins, Carla Hall, & Amanda Johnson.
Oh and Turkish...we were actually good that year! It wasn't just luck!
Doc Holliday
02-16-2005, 08:53 PM
I think what he was saying is that class got so much playing time that the younger girls didnt get to develope, often cause teams to have a drop off
From the very few games that I have seen South Floyd play. I have noticed that little K. Hall has done an great job considering she is just in seventh grade. One game I noticed that some girls didn't even want to be out there and towards the end of the game he put in younger girls and their attitudes towards the game were totally different. I think some people need to come off their big horse and come to realization that a team is only as good as they want to be. You have to want to have a winning attitude no matter how old you are!!!
Doc Holliday
02-17-2005, 06:28 PM
From the very few games that I have seen South Floyd play. I have noticed that little K. Hall has done an great job considering she is just in seventh grade. One game I noticed that some girls didn't even want to be out there and towards the end of the game he put in younger girls and their attitudes towards the game were totally different. I think some people need to come off their big horse and come to realization that a team is only as good as they want to be. You have to want to have a winning attitude no matter how old you are!!!
Nice insight.
Who is K. Hall in the 7th grade? I'm not very familiar with the middle school players.
Doc Holliday
02-18-2005, 12:39 AM
when I saw them play she looked pretty good, not sure what her name is, I didnt know she was a 7th grader she looks like she has soon real skill
Basketballer
02-18-2005, 12:45 AM
Sf will be tough in a few years
BallaBaby
02-18-2005, 01:45 AM
Sf will be tough in a few years
Yea, but not right now!
Basketballer
02-18-2005, 02:09 AM
Yeah thats what I am saying they are struggling this year but in about 2 years they should be good
15thRegionCrazy
02-18-2005, 04:15 AM
It will take a lot of work.. but they have the potential to be pretty good in a few years
I'm toatally in the dark about the talent in the middle school lol. Who are these kids and where did they come from?
Von Ryan
02-19-2005, 10:49 AM
From what I saw when they played Valley
They have Trammal and then its the young girls.
The big girls looked beat from the tip off. I would say when them younger girls get up there theywill be better. Last night the younger ones already looked like they were better than most of them seniors
Wyatt Earp
02-19-2005, 08:23 PM
The seniors now were in grade school when South Floyd won the districts. Trammell and Tackett were the only ones on the team that year. The freshmen that year were Megan Ousley, Brandy Anderson, Ashley Johnson, Sharee Hopkins, Carla Hall, & Amanda Johnson.
Oh and Turkish...we were actually good that year! It wasn't just luck! Lady Riders were very good that year and the best I can remember you had a dominating center that took over in the later part of the year. Those Fr. players were probably as good that year as they were in their entire time playing. They were eager to be playing every game. I actually thought they should have been in the finals if not for a couple of calls that went the other way late in the Johnson Central game.
DTfan
02-20-2005, 01:01 AM
I think if their coach works with the young girls and pushes them and helps to develop their skills then when those girls are juniors or seniors then SF girls will be pretty good...not gonna say the best but at least competative! Oh and K.Hall's first name is Kayla...
South_21
02-23-2005, 09:36 AM
I do beleive that Candice Hall also played for that team as well. Also, which dominating center was you referring too? Sara Johnson and Kandice Mitchell both started at center, they just rotated turns.
Maybe Candice played...I don't remember. I'd probably say Kandice Mitchell. She dominated the tournament that year.
BallaBaby
02-24-2005, 01:45 AM
I do beleive that Candice Hall also played for that team as well. Also, which dominating center was you referring too? Sara Johnson and Kandice Mitchell both started at center, they just rotated turns.
You HAVE to be referring to Kandice Mitchell, I wasn't impressed at all with Johnson.
Hall was on the team but didn't see much playing time.
15thRegionCrazy
02-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Kandice Mitchell was one of the best centers I played against
BallaBaby
02-24-2005, 01:51 AM
I think Mitchell was the better player by far, anyone else agree?
I remember she had a tremendous game against BL that year in district tourney.
Basketballer
02-24-2005, 01:52 AM
I do beleive that Candice Hall also played for that team as well. Also, which dominating center was you referring too? Sara Johnson and Kandice Mitchell both started at center, they just rotated turns.
Mitchell started her Sophmore,Junior and Senior year..They never rotated turns..There was a few games that she didnt start but not very many.They started together their senior year... The starters the year they won districts were:
G-Megan Ousley
G-Tiffany Williams
C-Kandice Mitchell
F-Asley Johnson
F-Minnie Tackett
Yeah she was...and she did have an amazing game. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it like 22 points and 27 rebounds?? That was the last time they had a dominating center other than Trammell.
BallaBaby
02-24-2005, 01:57 AM
Yeah she was...and she did have an amazing game. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it like 22 points and 27 rebounds??
I don't think Johnson ever accomplished anything like that!
Basketballer
02-24-2005, 01:58 AM
Yeah she was...and she did have an amazing game. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it like 22 points and 27 rebounds?? That was the last time they had a dominating center other than Trammell.
It was 28 boards
Ohhh haha my bad bballer ;). Thanks for correcting me...I knew it was way up there.
Turkish
02-24-2005, 09:51 PM
I remember reading about SF when the Compton Girl played center and she was the real thing she had like 33 points and 30 rebounds a couple of times.
South_21
02-25-2005, 11:50 PM
Tiffany Compton was the best center to EVER play at South Floyd....by far...The others don't hold a candel to her. She could dribble, rebound, and score.
Doc Holliday
02-26-2005, 09:34 AM
Compton was 2nd team all state in the shot put and discuss as well
Basketballer
02-26-2005, 10:16 PM
Tiffany Compton was the best center to EVER play at South Floyd....by far...The others don't hold a candel to her. She could dribble, rebound, and score. :roll: They have other centers that has put up other better numbers
BallaBaby
02-26-2005, 10:46 PM
Tiffany Compton was the best center to EVER play at South Floyd....by far...The others don't hold a candel to her. She could dribble, rebound, and score.
Whats a candel? She was a good player, but there were others who were more talented!
Doc Holliday
02-28-2005, 12:59 AM
I watched most of them and I dont want to hurt any feeling but I felt all the way around Tiff was as talented as ever put on a jersey at South Floyd. As far as pure talent the first team had as much talent as ever came off left beaver they just never played as a team. Way too much subbing they never had an opportunity to get going.
Doc Holliday
02-28-2005, 01:06 AM
and I am not dissing the other its JMO
BallaBaby
02-28-2005, 11:22 AM
IMO there are others who have played that are just as talented as her.
Basketballer
02-28-2005, 12:10 PM
Alright this one is done..Please Feel free to start another one
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