Johnson and Lowe leave Central!!! [Archive] - Kentucky Sports Forum

15thRegionSlamaBamma

12-27-2005, 12:37 AM

Hulk was right Paige Lowe and Kayla Johnson both have now withdrawed from Pike Central to go where...No where other than Phelps to join Coleman and Slone...Oh the irony...Word has it that McCoy is not going to release either player...To continue this story Johnson's father called the school saying he was withdrawing Kayla to take her to Phelps and said he wanted to leave on good terms...To go along with this he as well asked if he could take Paige with them...So there it is sorry for saying you was wrong there Hulk...I know for a fact this is true it came from *****er's mouth...His quote on this was "If they want to go let them go"...

thetribe

12-27-2005, 01:43 AM

Well now! Dang.

Best of luck to the girls, I would say that they won't be on good terms with the school anymore and that could cause some trouble.

15thRegionCrazy

12-27-2005, 02:08 AM

It seems like there is always something like this going on at Pike Central.. but best of luck to the girls and to the Lady Hawks after the loss of the 2 players

Cowhunter30

12-27-2005, 12:55 PM

I don't know about Johnson, but Lowe isn't going to Phelps. That was the initial idea. But she isn't going there now.

The Dork

12-27-2005, 02:34 PM

Why is Johnson switching schools again???

She left Valley to go to Pike Central.
Now after just one semester she's going to Phelps???
What's going on?

smoothie

12-27-2005, 02:56 PM

Will they be eligible to play at Phelps?

Cowhunter30

12-27-2005, 04:57 PM

I don't know about Johnson I havn't really heard anything about her. But I do know that Paige Lowe is not going to Phelps, but she isn't staying at Pike Central.

The Dork

12-27-2005, 05:33 PM

Isn't there a rule that they aren't eligible to play this year??? At least that's what I thought? I thought there was like a year waiting period... maybe I'm wrong?

Cowhunter30

12-27-2005, 05:35 PM

I don't know, I thought that too, but apparently we are wrong.

bubba gump

12-27-2005, 06:00 PM

If the KHSAA approves it, they can play anywhere at anytime.

Cowhunter30

12-27-2005, 06:05 PM

he is right

MCHS_FBALL#14

12-27-2005, 06:44 PM

this may spell trouble for pcc because in every thread ive read about them included these girls hmmmm YES!!! but gl the rest of the season

Dream_Weaver

12-27-2005, 07:21 PM

How did Kim Coleman remain eligible after transferring to Phelps???

FOX SPORTS

12-27-2005, 07:26 PM

How did Kim Coleman remain eligible after transferring to Phelps???
A legitimate change of residence allows a transfer without sitting out.

Cowhunter30

12-27-2005, 07:42 PM

Yeah I just learned that...haha

cupcake

12-28-2005, 09:11 AM

Sometimes these moves are not really legal. They get a(legal) address but after a while never stay there, but mail goes there.

Not really fair to other teams when players can jump from school to school. KHSAA should vote no on this one.

15thRegionSlamaBamma

12-28-2005, 02:10 PM

Coleman actually lived in the Phepls district all along so there wasn't really a change of address...Johnson nor Lowe will be able to play either way b/c due to McCoy is not going to sign the papers to release the players which in return means they will have to sit out the season even if ONLY a change of addy was needed...But i think that either way they would not be alowed b/c where they had already played games for PC this season...I didn't know that Lowe is no longer going to phelps that is just was Butcher has told...There is to much contoversy surrounding PC i'm curious to see if this will damper their season...But good luck to PC...and im really disappointed in both players...But oh well good luck where ever you go...

Kitty

12-29-2005, 01:22 AM

I think a player should be happy where they play. If this makes them happy, what's the problem?

15thRegionSlamaBamma

12-29-2005, 01:38 PM

I just think it is ridiculous on Johnson's part to transfer twice in one semester...I'm sorry if you think that is stupied but if a player was to come to play for me after transfering twice in one semester how could you in the up coming year put them on your starting 5 if she makes it considering wouldn't you have that fear that she would leave you for another school and that would just bust the whole chemistry of the team...But thats my opinion...

15th Fan

01-02-2006, 11:00 AM

I really don't know much on Johnson, but as for Lowe, let her go. She has done nothing but cause the team some kinds of problems this year. According to a reliable source, it seems the attitude of the team as a whole is a lot better and more enjoyable since Lowe has left. Like I have said before, if a player quits once like she did at the beginning of the year, she should have never been let to come back even with punishment. I see great things happening for the girls at PC and wish them the best of luck throughout the rest of the season.

pcchs_gurl1505

01-02-2006, 11:29 AM

well...paige is going to betsy layne
Kayla Johnson is saying phelps bribed her to come play for them by offering her a two story apartment and a car

15th Fan

01-02-2006, 12:13 PM

Well, I think that it might be somewhat illegal to offer her an apartment and a car. That is just my thoughts though.

BALLER_50

01-02-2006, 12:58 PM

Well the question I have is who offered her a apartment and a car??? I know that they are from phelps but just exactly who??/

15thRegionSlamaBamma

01-02-2006, 06:12 PM

lol Coleman was promised a car and she never got it to my knowlege lol...and 15th their attitude on that team has changed ALOT they seem so much happier now that the distractions are gone now they can actually concentrate on a game...Instead of worring well who isnt going to show up to practice today...

Kitty

01-02-2006, 07:22 PM

I wish the team best of luck. There seems to always be something going on at PC.
I would think the players would have to sit our for 1 year if they didn't move. If they moved
they will be eligible won't they?

Hulk

01-02-2006, 07:31 PM

I wasn't wrong I was right. Thank you man.

Hulk was right Paige Lowe and Kayla Johnson both have now withdrawed from Pike Central to go where...No where other than Phelps to join Coleman and Slone...Oh the irony...Word has it that McCoy is not going to release either player...To continue this story Johnson's father called the school saying he was withdrawing Kayla to take her to Phelps and said he wanted to leave on good terms...To go along with this he as well asked if he could take Paige with them...So there it is sorry for saying you was wrong there Hulk...I know for a fact this is true it came from *****er's mouth...His quote on this was "If they want to go let them go"...

15thRegionSlamaBamma

01-02-2006, 10:40 PM

Kitty to answer your question no they would not...McCoy did not release them...

and your welcome Hulk

KentuckyHillBilly5321

01-02-2006, 11:29 PM

Kitty to answer your question no they would not...McCoy did not release them...

and your welcome Hulk

Also--it doesn't matter if they are released or not. This decision ultimately lies in the hands of the KHSAA. As I stated in another thread--a "bonafide" change of address DOES NOT GUARANTEE ELIGIBILITY. (SEE HIGHLANDS/MICHAEL MITCHELL).

If the KHSAA feels like either one of these girls has moved for athletic reasons (even if it is a small reason)--they sit for a year. Even with a "release" (which actually has nothing to do with athletics--it has to do with KEA student funding--which schools can release to "receiving school") these girls sit for 1 year.

Also, if one of these girls is actually going around saying that she was offered an apartment and a car--I wouldn't look at the school--I would feel sorry for her. It is obvious that she is trying to draw attention to her self for whatever reason. That is probably why she continues to move from school to school--hoping that she finds a place where people are excited about her attendance.

Schools/adminstrators are a little smarter than that. This isn't the NFL. Phelps would risk being kicked out of the KHSAA, losing all sports, a fine that they probably couldn't afford and would most likely lose KEA certification.
Not to mention the fact that the community would treat the school as a complete outcast.

The KHSAA rule book is very accessable. For any of you that actually believe that either one of these girls is going to play--just take a couple minutes and check it out--it will put your mind at ease.

Cali

01-03-2006, 01:27 AM

Also--it doesn't matter if they are released or not. This decision ultimately lies in the hands of the KHSAA. As I stated in another thread--a "bonafide" change of address DOES NOT GUARANTEE ELIGIBILITY. (SEE HIGHLANDS/MICHAEL MITCHELL).

If the KHSAA feels like either one of these girls has moved for athletic reasons (even if it is a small reason)--they sit for a year. Even with a "release" (which actually has nothing to do with athletics--it has to do with KEA student funding--which schools can release to "receiving school") these girls sit for 1 year.

Also, if one of these girls is actually going around saying that she was offered an apartment and a car--I wouldn't look at the school--I would feel sorry for her. It is obvious that she is trying to draw attention to her self for whatever reason. That is probably why she continues to move from school to school--hoping that she finds a place where people are excited about her attendance.

Schools/adminstrators are a little smarter than that. This isn't the NFL. Phelps would risk being kicked out of the KHSAA, losing all sports, a fine that they probably couldn't afford and would most likely lose KEA certification.
Not to mention the fact that the community would treat the school as a complete outcast.

The KHSAA rule book is very accessable. For any of you that actually believe that either one of these girls is going to play--just take a couple minutes and check it out--it will put your mind at ease.

Exactly right. One is NOT guaranteed eligibility just because they changed addresses.

FOX SPORTS

01-03-2006, 07:10 AM

All posters need to be careful making accusations of a school recruiting.

15thRegionSlamaBamma

01-03-2006, 08:03 AM

That was a good post Hillbilly i had stated that earlier but just didnt put it there do to i didnt feel like reiterating what i had already put...But you did shine a new light on alot...and fox when the girl that tranfers said it then it is probley true...

foulshot

01-03-2006, 10:27 AM

As far as Lowe having a attitude problem the whole team has attitude problems. As i was told the coaches only have one player that they really like. And why was Kayla not punished for starting an argument with Paige Lowe. Kayla Lowe should have also been punished and from what i have heard she trys to pick fights with all the girls on the team like she is somebody. I think she is afraid of other girls being better than she is. If you ask me there is PCC's whole problem the coaches need to sit her down and tell her she isn't allowed to argue with any of the girls i don't care who she is.
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I really don't know much on Johnson, but as for Lowe, let her go. She has done nothing but cause the team some kinds of problems this year. According to a reliable source, it seems the attitude of the team as a whole is a lot better and more enjoyable since Lowe has left. Like I have said before, if a player quits once like she did at the beginning of the year, she should have never been let to come back even with punishment. I see great things happening for the girls at PC and wish them the best of luck throughout the rest of the season.

foulshot

01-03-2006, 10:29 AM

I wish PCC all the best but i don't see them getting out of the district. I think Belfry will come in first place and Phelps second.

foulshot

01-03-2006, 10:42 AM

If they could win one.
lol Coleman was promised a car and she never got it to my knowlege lol...and 15th their attitude on that team has changed ALOT they seem so much happier now that the distractions are gone now they can actually concentrate on a game...Instead of worring well who isnt going to show up to practice today...

foulshot

01-03-2006, 10:44 AM

cupcake

01-03-2006, 03:19 PM

Has anyone reported these two girls transferring to different location to KHSAA? Pike County Central Coach Butcher should do this. It doesn't matter that they make a legal move, it's the principle of it. It's common knowledge that they left because of their playing time, 8th graders starting before they were, unhappy with coach, etc.

foulshot

01-04-2006, 09:19 AM

As for Johnson i don't know her situation. But for Paige Lowe who wasn't playing basketball anyway because she though in the the towel long before the Christmas break moved for personal reasons. As far as i know she isn't playing basketball anywhere nor does she want too.
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Has anyone reported these two girls transferring to different location to KHSAA? Pike County Central Coach Butcher should do this. It doesn't matter that they make a legal move, it's the principle of it. It's common knowledge that they left because of their playing time, 8th graders starting before they were, unhappy with coach, etc.

cupcake

01-05-2006, 01:04 PM

I really feel sorry for Haley Ratliff having to do it all by herself. Considering she has no help at all. Good Luck Haley and hang in there maybe some of the players will improve enough to help you out this season.

There are no "I" in team. It takes all five players to make a good team. I don't believe Hailey is doing everything ALL by herself. She is the only person. By stating that, you are demeaning the rest of the team. They have won games when she has gotten into foul trouble and had to sit on the bench.

foulshot

01-06-2006, 09:21 AM

If it wasn't for her scoring in the 30 point make they wouldn't win a game. And that is so true and everyone knows that the other do play but score very little.
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There are no "I" in team. It takes all five players to make a good team. I don't believe Hailey is doing everything ALL by herself. She is the only person. By stating that, you are demeaning the rest of the team. They have won games when she has gotten into foul trouble and had to sit on the bench.

WeisGuy

01-06-2006, 10:12 AM

If it wasn't for her scoring in the 30 point make they wouldn't win a game. And that is so true and everyone knows that the other do play but score very little.
:graduate:

I decided to just check your logic for this comment, and I found some interesting information. Now I've checked almost every thread in this forum for anything derogatory towards Jayme Gilbert or her Clay County Lady Tigers and found nothing. (AND I'M GLAD I DIDN'T. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNWARRENTED.) Now, according to the KHSAA stats webpages, Haley Ratliff is averaging right around 23/game. The rest of her team is averaging 41/game. According to the same website, Gilbert is averaging 24/game and the rest of her team is averaging 38. Now, my point is this. I have seen UPTEEN threads about how "Pike Central couldn't do this" or "can't do that without Haley" yet I have seen none of those regarding Gilbert or Clay County. Why is that? Simply put, because foulshot and others feel the need to take shots at PC even when there is no reason for a stab to be taken.

It is my opinion that Gilbert and Ratliff are two of the better players in the Mountauns and statewide as well. They deserve all of the credit they receive. However, when I see a comment like this one, it just makes me sick because some people will criticiize Pike Central for being a "One Woman Show" when other programs are fairly similar in their stats. Makes you wonder if people have opinions or if they really have DIFFERENT AGENDAS.

champ321

01-06-2006, 10:16 AM

Is Clay County even in the 15th region? Maybe that's why.

WeisGuy

01-06-2006, 10:22 AM

Is Clay County even in the 15th region? Maybe that's why.

Nobody said that this was a 15th Region only site did they? And even if it was, the comparison still holds merit to all of these comments about Pike Central's team.

BALLER_50

01-06-2006, 11:11 AM

Well my opinion weis guy is that you are a trouble maker and everything on this site about Pike Central is nothing but the truth.

WeisGuy

01-06-2006, 11:14 AM

Well my opinion weis guy is that you are a trouble maker and everything on this site about Pike Central is nothing but the truth.

Please give evidence as to where I have "made trouble". Don't be like others and just make accusations so that you can just say that you made accusations.

BALLER_50

01-06-2006, 12:47 PM

WeisGuy

01-06-2006, 12:53 PM

Listen here you are nothing but a jack ***, i think that you need to go somewhere else. And for you trying to make trouble when you said nobody said that this was a 15th region only site did they from my point of view you were just trying to be a smart ***..

I wasn't trrying to make trouble when I made the 15th Region remark. I was simply making a point. As for name-calling, I won't get into that. Your lack of maturity in this matter is comical.

champ321

01-06-2006, 01:27 PM

Nobody said that this was a 15th Region only site did they? And even if it was, the comparison still holds merit to all of these comments about Pike Central's team.

Well considering that we were talking about the 15th region at that point in the thread, umm maybe that's why.

WeisGuy

01-06-2006, 01:57 PM

Well considering that we were talking about the 15th region at that point in the thread, umm maybe that's why.

I was talking about the whole Girl's Basketball Forum. Not just this thread. No team gets criticized for having a dominant player the way Pike Central does, and to some extent, no player gets criticized the way Haley is criticized for being a dominant player.

Phoenix

01-06-2006, 04:31 PM

I wasn't trrying to make trouble when I made the 15th Region remark. I was simply making a point. As for name-calling, I won't get into that. Your lack of maturity in this matter is comical.

That's because most of the people that get their panties in a twist when someone says something about their "team" are still in high school. I look at the post times and wonder if their schools teach them anything or if they just allow them to post on BGR all day long!

crazytaxidriver

01-06-2006, 07:45 PM

Listen here you are nothing but a jack ***, i think that you need to go somewhere else. And for you trying to make trouble when you said nobody said that this was a 15th region only site did they from my point of view you were just trying to be a smart ***..

Good lord child.. I thought we had this discussion once before about the opening of your mouth and revealing how ignorant you are.. If you would read a little bit instead of shooting off at the mouth you would see he has a really good point..

There is more to the state then the 15th region... But i guess you wouldn't know anything about that now would ya?

champ321

01-07-2006, 09:04 AM

I was talking about the whole Girl's Basketball Forum. Not just this thread. No team gets criticized for having a dominant player the way Pike Central does, and to some extent, no player gets criticized the way Haley is criticized for being a dominant player.

I'm not criticizing anyone. I think Haley Ratliff is an awesome player. All I said was that Central wouldn't survive without her. That's my opinion.

Oh and I'm pretty sure we just sit at school and post all day. If you don't go to the school, then don't worry about it.

15thRegionSlamaBamma

01-07-2006, 12:08 PM

Good lord child.. I thought we had this discussion once before about the opening of your mouth and revealing how ignorant you are.. If you would read a little bit instead of shooting off at the mouth you would see he has a really good point..

There is more to the state then the 15th region... But i guess you wouldn't know anything about that now would ya?

good post there Crazy...

and Weis you do make some very very good points...