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FloridaFan
01-18-2006, 09:33 AM
What does everyone think of Jason Booher as the Head Coch of Shelby Valley. How does he compare to the great Rodney Rowe and why do you think he's killed our program?

FOX SPORTS
01-18-2006, 09:36 AM
Be careful, this thread will be watched closely.

HappyGilmore
01-18-2006, 09:43 AM
This will be good.:Shaking:

DTA
01-18-2006, 10:08 AM
Tell me what you mean by killed? Is there something happening the world does not know about? I do not know Booher or his background. Shed some light on the subject florida fan:confused:

BasketBallonlyfan
01-18-2006, 10:12 AM
Look at the records from both coaches... 'nuff said!!

HomeGrown
01-18-2006, 10:23 AM
Booher is a great coach, he simply does not haver the talent that Roe had. How can you say Roe was so great. He did a good job with the X's and O's but he no control of his players. If he would have had some discipline he would still be there today. As for Booher he is great coach, very positive. Only bad thing i can say about him was the way the beat the David School

FOX SPORTS
01-18-2006, 10:25 AM
I don't understand the "killed" part.

Imnottelling
01-18-2006, 10:37 AM
I don't understand the "killed" part.

No one respects the Wildcats anymore... perhaps that is what he was talking about.

SuperStar
01-18-2006, 10:43 AM
I think he may be talking about the dominance SV had over the 15th region for some time, which is definitely no longer the case. Just some stats to consider:

Year Record against 15th Region
99/00 16-5
00/01 19-1
01/02 21-1
02/03 16-2
03/04 15-2
04/05 17-1
05/06 4-6

The combined record against 15th region teams from 99/00 through 04/05 was 104-12. The record this season is 4-6, and 2 of those wins were over David. The fans in the SV area have seen alot of talent in recent years, and I think most will agree that the talent level this season has not dropped off enough to warrant a season that has been as disappointing as this one.

breaker911
01-18-2006, 11:04 AM
Did you think to consider that maybe the other teams in the region have gotten better over this period? IMHO, the talent level has gone down at SVHS.

Pirate Pal
01-18-2006, 11:07 AM
My thoughts on Jason Booher..........I'm glad he's not at Belfry anymore...

breaker911
01-18-2006, 11:09 AM
Why?

DTA
01-18-2006, 11:18 AM
Homegrown, you sound close to the program at SV so what is going on? You say Booher is a great coach so why are most of the people on here giving him a hard time? I do not understand at all :confused:. I watched SV play on delay last night and from what I saw SV showed little patience and that hurt them late but to me it was just another ballgame. :Thumbs:

FloridaFan
01-18-2006, 01:09 PM
Ok, as far as the talent here at SV, we have plenty of it, the only unfortunate thing is the fact that most of the talent sits on the bench. You can talk to former players who have quit under Booher's Coching. Great Talents, Colby Newsome, Mike Bartley, Donovan Bentley, and Kyle Goodson are some pretty good players. Shalby Valley has a 7-8 record this year with two wins coming over David School. Yes, a lot of teams are better this year, and have a lot of talent, but with Mitchell Riddle, john Johnson, Cade Riddle, Jeremy Jackson, Jacob Bryant, Gary Thomas, and very young talent like Logan Bryant and Elisha Justice, Valley could be a very deep team.

I'll finish this post later tonight when I have more time, because I have much to say on this subject.

Falcons#23BS
01-18-2006, 01:14 PM
coach booher is horrible

mojo40
01-18-2006, 04:02 PM
i think that rodney rowe is the best coach to ever come out of the program even the vigie, dorton days..
what happened to coach rowe was there was just to much power for him to compete with he got drove out of valley. it dont matter who coaches at sv there always going to be compared to coach rowe and they are always going to come up short.
booher maybe a good coach but he is not rodney rowe

MCfan
01-18-2006, 04:25 PM
Why does this guy get so much heat?

valley_06
01-18-2006, 10:44 PM
Because nobody respects this man. I might not know much about basketball but i believe in any sport you have to respect your coach, you might not like him but every coach should have their players respect...

ACE
01-18-2006, 10:52 PM
Because nobody respects this man. I might not know much about basketball but i believe in any sport you have to respect your coach, you might not like him but every coach should have their players respect...

Good point.

basketballjones
01-19-2006, 12:08 AM
Of the games I have seen Valley he doesn't make any in-game adjustments and doesn't have any offensive sets. Also he doesn't take advantage of the size he has, needs to get Cade Riddle and Johnson more involved in the offense instead of letting the guards shoot their arm off.

Homer Simpson
01-19-2006, 12:13 AM
i like that good post

bulldog
01-19-2006, 06:42 AM
Because nobody respects this man. I might not know much about basketball but i believe in any sport you have to respect your coach, you might not like him but every coach should have their players respect...
I have been around the game of HS basketball for over 25 years and I have respect for Booher as a coach and even more as a man.
Does the dislike for Booher at SV have anything to do with the fact he is not from the Dorton or Virgie area?

Does the fact that SV is down this year really cause a program to be "killed" as was said in an earlier post?

Does SV's record this year have anything to do with less than average guard play?

BasketBallonlyfan
01-19-2006, 07:31 AM
A person has to ask why SV is having a down year. There middle schools program has always been one of the top in the state for the last 4 or 5 years. How many experienced or upper classmen have they had to quit playing this year? That could be the reason people think they are down. If the players that are sitting the bench are better than the ones on the court, then something is wrong there. I think the valley program was in much better hands and will be in much better hands again soon. That is for whoever takes it over once Booher is gone.

FloridaFan
01-19-2006, 08:25 AM
A lot of the problems with Booher are the management of his players. Really great talent such as Gary Thomas is left sitting on the bench for the percentage of the game with only 4 minutes of playing time. He is a well-rounded ball player and was very proven under Rowe, but for the last two years under Booher and is being underused and misused. The other players not playing are in part, because of Booher. Why are these other talents not on the court, because Booher has drove them off the team. As far as Rowe goes, it would be great to have him back, with the team we actually have here at Valley right now, I'm 100% confident we would be right in the mix for the 15th region title. It's only a hope though, as our players no heart when they play for Booher. This program has been such a contender for so many years and as long as we have such a mediocre coach as Jason Booher, we will not be a 15th region power. Bring back Patino and Rowe.

HappyGilmore
01-19-2006, 09:17 AM
Has Greg Newsome ever applied for the head coaching job at Shelby Valley?

He has done a tremendous job at the middle school and it isn't just because he has overwhelming talent.

Imnottelling
01-19-2006, 09:22 AM
Of the games I have seen Valley he doesn't make any in-game adjustments and doesn't have any offensive sets. Also he doesn't take advantage of the size he has, needs to get Cade Riddle and Johnson more involved in the offense instead of letting the guards shoot their arm off.

Amen to that, jones! If only everyone else would see that maybe Valley would become the contender they used to be.

BasketBallonlyfan
01-19-2006, 09:32 AM
Has Greg Newsome ever applied for the head coaching job at Shelby Valley?

He has done a tremendous job at the middle school and it isn't just because he has overwhelming talent.
How would he do as a high school coach when he cant hold players back every year though? I have to say, it would be interesting though to see how many players he would have that would need to stay back a year for maturity... LOL

Imnottelling
01-19-2006, 09:58 AM
Has Greg Newsome ever applied for the head coaching job at Shelby Valley?

He has done a tremendous job at the middle school and it isn't just because he has overwhelming talent.

So many of us wish he would but to my knowledge he hasn't yet. I think it's a crying shame when we had one of the top Freshman teams last year in the state and can't win with that kind of talent. We need new blood on the coaching staff starting at the top.

FOX SPORTS
01-19-2006, 10:37 AM
Does the dislike for Booher at SV have anything to do with the fact he is not from the Dorton or Virgie area?


I'd like to see someone answer this one honestly also.

Imnottelling
01-19-2006, 10:57 AM
I'd like to see someone answer this one honestly also.

As for me it has absolutely nothing to do with where he is from but everything to do with why with so much talent are we still losing games to teams that are not. I wouldn't care if he was from Mars....if he could take the talent we have and rock the state with it.

SuperStar
01-19-2006, 11:21 AM
I'd like to see someone answer this one honestly also.

It doesn't have anything to do with where he is from. Actually, an outside coach is probably needed for this program. As for the reason for so many fans' frustration..... just see my prior post regarding his record against 15th region teams. The talent level currently at SV doesn't not warrant such mediocrity...

HappyGilmore
01-19-2006, 11:46 AM
How would he do as a high school coach when he cant hold players back every year though? I have to say, it would be interesting though to see how many players he would have that would need to stay back a year for maturity... LOL

Parents are the only people who can hold a kid back, unless he/she fails to make grades.

Why the sour grapes against holdbacks or Greg Newsome? If anyone asked me "is it a good idea to hold a kid back?". I would only have one reply, "ABSOLUTELY!". For all sorts of reasons.

bulldog
01-19-2006, 12:13 PM
The talent level currently at SV doesn't not warrant such mediocrity...
IMO...the talent level currently at SV is mediocre as is most of the 15th region.

Imnottelling
01-19-2006, 01:05 PM
IMO...the talent level currently at SV is mediocre as is most of the 15th region.

I wouldn't call the talent in the 15th Region "mediocre". You have obviously not been following some of the teams this year.

FOX SPORTS
01-19-2006, 01:11 PM
I wouldn't call the talent in the 15th Region "mediocre". You have obviously not been following some of the teams this year.
I tend to agree with bulldog for the most part.
Overall, the talent level in the 15th is mediocre compared to the overall talent level overall from years past....for example, how many current seniors are being considered for any type of college basketball scholarship?

Imnottelling
01-19-2006, 01:13 PM
I tend to agree with bulldog for the most part.
Overall, the talent level in the 15th is mediocre compared to the overall talent level overall from years past....for example, how many current seniors are being considered for any type of college basketball scholarship?

Good question and good point.....

However, in no way would I call the talent level mediocre. They may not be what we have had in the past but they are still a great bunch of players...and I enjoy watching them play.

FOX SPORTS
01-19-2006, 01:36 PM
Good question and good point.....

However, in no way would I call the talent level mediocre. They may not be what we have had in the past but they are still a great bunch of players...and I enjoy watching them play.
Don't misunderstand...I enjoy watching them play and yes, there are some talented players but i also believe the number of outstanding players is down and the shooting percentages are down as a whole from what they were ten years ago...any coach who has been around for very long will tell you that.
I'm still a fan just realistic as to the quantity of quality in the region.

Sony33
01-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Has done a good job w/the Wildcats

free throw
01-19-2006, 04:18 PM
There will be some great talent coming in from Virgie and Dorton next year. I can understand why parents are concerned about the coach.

basketballjones
01-19-2006, 04:22 PM
I bet if they had hired Spurlock from Hazard Valleys record would have been alot better than it is now with the talent that is in that school. Booher defenders can saw the talent level is down all they want but its simply not true, yea its not last years talent but its just as good as any other teams, you just got to know what to do with it. Go back to last year, Valley was way better at the first of the year than they were at the end, when rowes teachings went so did their play. Booher is simply lost look at his record minus Rowes team, what has he done?

SuperStar
01-19-2006, 05:04 PM
IMO...the talent level currently at SV is mediocre as is most of the 15th region.

Mediocre on a statewide level? Yeah, mediocre at best

Mediocre within the region? Nope, the talent level is in the top 3 or 4.... but their play sure isn't...

The Chosen 1
01-21-2006, 04:16 PM
:lmao: This is what I think of Jason Booher as a coach and as a person.........................................a joke!

showstopper4
01-21-2006, 04:27 PM
Jason Booher as a person is a good man...But as a basketball coach i would have to say he needs some help. Of course if you have a dominate team your first year of coaching you are going to get a little praise. But wat he has done this year has determined if he is a good coach or not. Which is not good.

FOX SPORTS
01-22-2006, 07:40 PM
:lmao: This is what I think of Jason Booher as a coach and as a person.........................................a joke!
Do you know him personally???

THOMCAT
01-22-2006, 08:26 PM
He must be a good coach......look how bad he beat the David School!

sf_football
01-22-2006, 09:04 PM
never heard of him

BasketBallonlyfan
01-22-2006, 09:08 PM
I still think it is going to be interesting there. I know for a fact that last summer it was said that he will be there for a very long time. Now there superstar 8th graders are saying they will go somewhere else if he stays. So lets see who runs the program there. The coaches or the parents. If the parents gets their way, what happens when the new coach dont play Jr enough or says something to them to try to motivate them? Will the new one be gone too?

Kitty
01-22-2006, 09:42 PM
I would have to say that Rodney Rowe did an excellent job coaching at Shelby Valley. He should have gotten to leave the program when he wanted to. I think he was forced out due to sad but true...POLITICS. Nothing against Booher he may be doing a great job. It doesn't matter if you win they will put who they want in. I wish Rodney happiness because it wasn't right what happend to him or Bobby Spears. This goes back to the big house...THE BOARD.

HomeGrown
01-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Booher is a great coach

bballcrazee
01-24-2006, 10:48 AM
Booher is a great coach, he simply does not haver the talent that Roe had. How can you say Roe was so great. He did a good job with the X's and O's but he no control of his players. If he would have had some discipline he would still be there today. As for Booher he is great coach, very positive. Only bad thing i can say about him was the way the beat the David School

I really hate to do this but it's ROWE. Roe is fish eggs. And now to the point, I think we all know that discipline has nothing to do the situation.

mojo40
01-24-2006, 10:53 AM
booher might be a good guy and might know the game of basketball but there is a differance in knowing basketball and coaching it. i have seen the team play a few times this year and it seems to me that everytime they step onto the floor they get out coached. and i know the team when rodney rowe was there and they never got out coached............

HappyGilmore
01-24-2006, 11:35 AM
Booher is a great coach,but his assistant is a total

Thats uncalled for.......Don't say it again.

sportsguy
01-24-2006, 02:55 PM
Besides Paintsville, JC, and Brad Lowe. Valley has as much if not more talent than anyone in the region. They just seem to go through the motions waiting for something to big to happen. Maybe its the coach, maybe not. I personally dont think he is a good match for the team.