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OutsideLookingIn 04-06-2017 04:23 PM

Charter schools in the mountains??
 
Has anyone heard of possible charter schools opening in Eastern KY?

JerryGarcia 04-07-2017 02:10 PM

Oh it's gonna happen. I have heard a few small independent schools are already looking into it

Mountain 04-07-2017 11:58 PM

Don't see a school in the mountains trying this for a few years.

HCS 04-08-2017 10:26 PM

The way I read it, the charter school would have to be operated by a school district. Would the small district open a second school and compete against itself or close the district and apply to the county district?

Reds#1Fan 04-12-2017 08:48 PM

I've heard rumors about Cordia trying to go Charter. Don't know anything 100% but have been told that by several people.

OutsideLookingIn 04-16-2017 07:28 PM

Interesting La Lumiare Academy of the Mountains lol!!

JerryGarcia 04-17-2017 06:17 PM

The bill says a public school can be converted to a charter with 60% of the districts parents signing the petition and then majority vote by the school board. Doesn't say it has to close its doors or open another school.

HCS 04-18-2017 10:50 AM

I thought I read the charter school has to petition a school district. Would there still be an actual school district there if there isn't a public school within the district? I'm not sure how it works.

Heisenberg Effect 04-18-2017 11:27 AM

Only a matter of time before it becomes a reality. Several schools are leaning to being chartered.

Passtheball 04-18-2017 08:04 PM

Is there a financial gain from doing so?

Single Wing 77 04-19-2017 02:30 AM

I think that a LOT of you're smaller independent schools that are barely hanging on will switch to charter status. The state has cut their funding as much as possible to try to push them out of existence. Switching to a charter school will allow them to receive more state funding.

ArJay 04-23-2017 07:04 PM

Maybe we could open the old Arjay elementary school here in Bell County and call it a charter school! Joking of course.

Willie_Mays_Hayes 07-09-2017 02:34 PM

Game changer!

Oldschoolplayer 07-13-2017 04:48 PM

Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.

HCS 07-14-2017 01:02 AM

The best I can tell from the Courier Journal is that charter schools are public schools run by school boards of public school districts:

The measure approved Friday is a departure from previous charter school bills in that it places no limits on where or how many charter schools can open. The bill gives authorizing power to mayors in Louisville and Lexington and local school boards across the state. Authorizers are charged with vetting the applications of parties who seek to open charter schools and deciding which will open. After those schools open, the authorizers would then be responsible for ensuring the schools are operating under agreed-upon conditions.

Cellking 07-14-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer (Post 2063996)
Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.

Oneida will never be a Charter School, They are run by a President and a Board of Directors. Clay Co. School System will not run Oneida Baptist.

RunItUpTheGut 07-14-2017 11:47 PM

The KHSAA will figure out a way to lay the screws to charter schools.
Member schools will vote them into irrelevancy

Willie_Mays_Hayes 07-15-2017 11:59 PM

Not much KHSAA can do about it....the law says that if a Charter School writes in its charter to offer athletics that they will be a member of the KHSAA!

HCS 07-16-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie_Mays_Hayes (Post 2064225)
Not much KHSAA can do about it....the law says that if a Charter School writes in its charter to offer athletics that they will be a member of the KHSAA!

I don't know if they can write anything in the charter that lets them break the KHSAA rules though.
A charter school is still a public school run by a public school board. How is that a game changer for Cordia?

Oldschoolplayer 07-16-2017 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer (Post 2063996)
Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.

Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.

plantmanky 07-17-2017 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunItUpTheGut (Post 2064152)
The KHSAA will figure out a way to lay the screws to charter schools.
Member schools will vote them into irrelevancy

KHSAA's boss is the one that pushed for this so they will learn to take it.

walterwhite 07-17-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer (Post 2064285)
Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.

OBI has always ran their own route. Limited, but their bus not Clay County's. OBI will not be a charter school. Red Bird has nearly closed several times in the last few years.

Cellking 07-18-2017 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer (Post 2064285)
Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.

Not True, they run a Bus owned by Oneida Baptist Institute not Clay Co.:dontthink

Willie_Mays_Hayes 07-21-2017 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HCS (Post 2064255)
I don't know if they can write anything in the charter that lets them break the KHSAA rules though.
A charter school is still a public school run by a public school board. How is that a game changer for Cordia?

The local school board has zero control over what happens at the Charter School....the charter school creates it's own charter board the controls all hiring and the running of the charter school.....again....the local school board has ZERO control over what happens at the charter school

KentuckyFan35 07-21-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie_Mays_Hayes (Post 2064702)
The local school board has zero control over what happens at the Charter School....the charter school creates it's own charter board the controls all hiring and the running of the charter school.....again....the local school board has ZERO control over what happens at the charter school

Except for the fact that the local school board can say "yes we will let you be a charter school" or "no your not gonna be a charter school!" That's quite a bit more than ZERO!!!

HCS 07-21-2017 12:03 PM

This is from the Courier Journal:
Charters are publicly funded schools that are run by outside organizations, rather than a traditional school district and school board. They do not charge tuition.

Those outside organizations enter into a contract, or a charter, with their authorizer – which, under the bill, would be the local school district or the mayor of Louisville or Lexington. Those contracts spell out what a charter school must do and how it will be kept accountable.

Under the bill, charter schools would still be held accountable to the state-mandated testing and accountability system, like other public schools.

Willie_Mays_Hayes 07-22-2017 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KentuckyFan35 (Post 2064731)
Except for the fact that the local school board can say "yes we will let you be a charter school" or "no your not gonna be a charter school!" That's quite a bit more than ZERO!!!

If a Charter School application meets all the requirements set by the law then a local board can't deny the application...if they do deny the application in a public meeting and it gets over turned by the state...the local board for lose the 3% of funding for being an authorizer and the Charter School will report directly to the KDE....so yes...the local board really has no control....

OutsideLookingIn 07-26-2017 05:58 PM

What about Cordia? From what I hear and read they have a lot of controversy with Knott Co super, AD and board over the past 5 years.

KentuckyFan35 07-27-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie_Mays_Hayes (Post 2064841)
If a Charter School application meets all the requirements set by the law then a local board can't deny the application...if they do deny the application in a public meeting and it gets over turned by the state...the local board for lose the 3% of funding for being an authorizer and the Charter School will report directly to the KDE....so yes...the local board really has no control....


Do you really think the state would overturn a local board of education?

OutsideLookingIn 07-27-2017 04:23 PM

Yes, they have over turned the KHSAA multiple times. Duh!


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