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Old 04-06-2017, 04:23 PM
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Has anyone heard of possible charter schools opening in Eastern KY?
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Oh it's gonna happen. I have heard a few small independent schools are already looking into it
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Old 04-07-2017, 11:58 PM
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Don't see a school in the mountains trying this for a few years.
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Old 04-08-2017, 10:26 PM
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The way I read it, the charter school would have to be operated by a school district. Would the small district open a second school and compete against itself or close the district and apply to the county district?
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I've heard rumors about Cordia trying to go Charter. Don't know anything 100% but have been told that by several people.
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:28 PM
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Interesting La Lumiare Academy of the Mountains lol!!
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The bill says a public school can be converted to a charter with 60% of the districts parents signing the petition and then majority vote by the school board. Doesn't say it has to close its doors or open another school.
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I thought I read the charter school has to petition a school district. Would there still be an actual school district there if there isn't a public school within the district? I'm not sure how it works.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:27 AM
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Only a matter of time before it becomes a reality. Several schools are leaning to being chartered.
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Is there a financial gain from doing so?
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I think that a LOT of you're smaller independent schools that are barely hanging on will switch to charter status. The state has cut their funding as much as possible to try to push them out of existence. Switching to a charter school will allow them to receive more state funding.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:04 PM
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Maybe we could open the old Arjay elementary school here in Bell County and call it a charter school! Joking of course.
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Game changer!
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Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.
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Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.
Oneida will never be a Charter School, They are run by a President and a Board of Directors. Clay Co. School System will not run Oneida Baptist.
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Oneida Baptist and Red Bird Mission in Clay county. Both have dorms, this will happen.
Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.
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Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer View Post
Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.
OBI has always ran their own route. Limited, but their bus not Clay County's. OBI will not be a charter school. Red Bird has nearly closed several times in the last few years.
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Originally Posted by Oldschoolplayer View Post
Oneida Baptist in clay county is getting a bus run with public school ties this upcoming year.
Not True, they run a Bus owned by Oneida Baptist Institute not Clay Co.
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The best I can tell from the Courier Journal is that charter schools are public schools run by school boards of public school districts:

The measure approved Friday is a departure from previous charter school bills in that it places no limits on where or how many charter schools can open. The bill gives authorizing power to mayors in Louisville and Lexington and local school boards across the state. Authorizers are charged with vetting the applications of parties who seek to open charter schools and deciding which will open. After those schools open, the authorizers would then be responsible for ensuring the schools are operating under agreed-upon conditions.
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The KHSAA will figure out a way to lay the screws to charter schools.
Member schools will vote them into irrelevancy
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The KHSAA will figure out a way to lay the screws to charter schools.
Member schools will vote them into irrelevancy
KHSAA's boss is the one that pushed for this so they will learn to take it.
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Not much KHSAA can do about it....the law says that if a Charter School writes in its charter to offer athletics that they will be a member of the KHSAA!
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Not much KHSAA can do about it....the law says that if a Charter School writes in its charter to offer athletics that they will be a member of the KHSAA!
I don't know if they can write anything in the charter that lets them break the KHSAA rules though.
A charter school is still a public school run by a public school board. How is that a game changer for Cordia?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:00 AM
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I don't know if they can write anything in the charter that lets them break the KHSAA rules though.
A charter school is still a public school run by a public school board. How is that a game changer for Cordia?
The local school board has zero control over what happens at the Charter School....the charter school creates it's own charter board the controls all hiring and the running of the charter school.....again....the local school board has ZERO control over what happens at the charter school
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Originally Posted by Willie_Mays_Hayes View Post
The local school board has zero control over what happens at the Charter School....the charter school creates it's own charter board the controls all hiring and the running of the charter school.....again....the local school board has ZERO control over what happens at the charter school
Except for the fact that the local school board can say "yes we will let you be a charter school" or "no your not gonna be a charter school!" That's quite a bit more than ZERO!!!
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KentuckyFan35 View Post
Except for the fact that the local school board can say "yes we will let you be a charter school" or "no your not gonna be a charter school!" That's quite a bit more than ZERO!!!
If a Charter School application meets all the requirements set by the law then a local board can't deny the application...if they do deny the application in a public meeting and it gets over turned by the state...the local board for lose the 3% of funding for being an authorizer and the Charter School will report directly to the KDE....so yes...the local board really has no control....
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This is from the Courier Journal:
Charters are publicly funded schools that are run by outside organizations, rather than a traditional school district and school board. They do not charge tuition.

Those outside organizations enter into a contract, or a charter, with their authorizer – which, under the bill, would be the local school district or the mayor of Louisville or Lexington. Those contracts spell out what a charter school must do and how it will be kept accountable.

Under the bill, charter schools would still be held accountable to the state-mandated testing and accountability system, like other public schools.
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What about Cordia? From what I hear and read they have a lot of controversy with Knott Co super, AD and board over the past 5 years.
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Check farther that the KY department of Ed got involved in writing and enforcement of rules, just saying.
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Cordia will be a charter school next year. They are doing this to get out of under tha control of the knott county school board. From what Alice explained to me they will have their own board kinda like an independent school
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