[Hoot Gibson]

Yes Hoot, we know some facts from the phone call to 911 from Zimmerman. He thought Martin looked "suspicious"(profiling), got out of his truck and followed him(when told not to), no doubt found him as he was following him(Martin is dead). What we will never know is if, because Zimmerman was following him, Martin decided not to run(used the "stand your ground" law against Zimmerman), then Zimmerman killed him as Martin was defending himself. Yes, Zimmerman's own call to 911 proves he was stalking Martin.

People defending themselves are usually not sitting on top of their attackers chest bruising their own knuckles as they break the attacker's nose and bang his head into the pavement. Neither you nor I will ever know for sure which party escalated what may have begun as a verbal confrontation into a physical one. The difference is that I recognize that I don't know what actually happened. You, on the other hand, pretend that you do.