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2016 Election Polls/Forecasts
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ronald reagan Wrote:Actually, thats not exactly the case. Trump can win without Colorado, in a variety of plausible and realistic ways.

Theres 14,000,000,000,000 (trillion) different combinations. Just in states that are tossups (within 5 points +/-), there are about 6 million possible ways it could go. When there's a dozen toss-up states, picking one state with a small number of electors as the eventual deciding state, is much like calling a basketball game by saying that it'll go into triple overtime, and team "X" by 1. It makes good dramatics, but its not a realistic prediction.

Statistically, when there's a dozen toss-up states, the state that is most important to win (and thereby offer the highest chance of victory overall) is the state with the most electors. In this case, Florida.

Case in point: If the election were held today, and based upon current polling as the actual vote tally. Hillary would win, regardless of who wins colorado. Gary Johnson or Jill Stein could win Colorado. Heck, Anthony Weiner could win a write-in ticket. Colorado could even cease to exist as a state, or refuse to send electors to the party. In fact, Colorado could break the law and circumvent the constitution, sending 2 electors for every 1 vote they are apportioned. And it wouldn't swing the election. Hillary is up 292 to 246 in the no-tossup poll of polls from RCP. Colorado only has 9 electoral votes.

Florida on the other hand, has 29 electoral votes. That would swing the election, as it would go to hillary as of today based upon this methodolgy. Even with Trump winning Colorado.

Heck, Trump could win Colorado AND Florida. And still lose. The current methodology has 1 electoral vote from maines 4 votes going to Trump (while many pundits and pollsters doubt that will happen). Thus, Trump winning Florida and Colorado, and losing that 1 vote in maine, and nevada (likely --- given their massive minority population) He'd still lose the electoral contest.

Pinning it on one state, with a tiny amount of electoral votes --- this far out, is a wreckless and long shot guess. I wouldn't consider it rooted in any sort of fact. When Colorado DOES count?? On Election day, when the stars align in a way on the east coast and midwest, that brings it down to just colorado remaining as the last swing state undecided. Until then.....

The election doesn't hang on colorado. It hangs upon the dozen or so toss-up states that not a single person on earth can say for sure how they'll vote in November.

There's no sarcasm here. Just truth.

I'll rephrase........

In my opinion, it will come down to Colorado.
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2016 Election Polls/Forecasts - by Motley - 08-18-2016, 06:22 PM
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