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08-30-2017, 03:08 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:The threat is far more existential than during the days of the cold war when we were at least led of real men and were militarily prepared.
You can thank *me* for that. -- RR
Whats interesting about catdoggy is that he/she/it hasn't proposed any kind of solution to this problem.
I think whats important to note is the distinction between preemptive war and reactive war. Catdoggy is obsessed with the idea that war isn't an option. And we all are in agreement that preemptive war isn't a desirable option. The risk-reward formula is too heavily weighted towards the risk side. However, Catdoggy won't propose an alternative to war. Which lends credit to the idea that the last 3 presidents have taken the same approach and led us to an ICBM and Nuclear equipped North Korea that is now violating the sovereignty of Japan, and threatening a nuclear attack on Guam and the continental United States. Until Catdoggy releases his plan for this conflict and a successful de-escalation and conclusion to this standoff, we must chuckle a bit at his armchair general comments.
With that said, lets redirect the conversation back to the idea of reactive war. This is the war that we more pragmatic individuals are talking about. If North Korea prepares to attack guam, actually attacks guam, or does the same towards US interests, or US Allies (SK, Japan, Taiwan, etc), then war not only becomes an option, but a necessity. No one wants this. No one. It WILL result in the deaths of millions, and likely trigger a regional conflict, even a world conflict. Perhaps even a nuclear war. And absolutely a humanitarian crisis unlike anything ever before. Regardless of the consequences, not even catdoggy can say they would refrain in the face of this type of threat. And if he does say that, he can not be believed or taken seriously.
Luckily we have a pretty tough missile defense system in place, as does japan. So the first order of business in war is to shoot down any nuclear missles. Then a rapid targetting of mobile launchers, rocket launchers, and artillery positions. This would occur simultaneously to shock and awe style, devestating decapitation strikes of leadership, infrastructure, and communication hubs. Then CIA-SAD, SEALS, DEVGRU, MARSOC, Combat Controllers, and ParaTroopers, SF, SF-D, PSYOPS, 75th, and multiple LRS units. These units are in the "Fight Today" categories. China has stated that it will not defend DPRK against aggressions if they are the one who triggered it. The war would end in about 2 days, but not before millions died. However, we can not stress enough, we.. the people of this forum... are discussing a war of necessity, not a war of desire.
Catdoggy, whats your plan? Offer us a solution out of this mess that Obama oversaw and watched grow to a breaking point for the last 8 year....
You don't have one. So just do us a favor... quit making us laugh. We are trying to have a serious conversation here.
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North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Wildcatk23 - 08-28-2017, 10:31 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 08-28-2017, 11:09 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-29-2017, 03:48 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by jetpilot - 08-29-2017, 05:21 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-29-2017, 05:48 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by jetpilot - 08-29-2017, 06:00 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-29-2017, 07:04 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Bob Seger - 08-29-2017, 11:52 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by ronald reagan - 08-29-2017, 02:26 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Bob Seger - 08-29-2017, 03:00 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-29-2017, 05:08 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 08-29-2017, 07:51 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-30-2017, 07:47 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by ronald reagan - 08-30-2017, 11:58 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by ronald reagan - 08-30-2017, 03:08 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-31-2017, 07:07 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Bob Seger - 08-31-2017, 12:17 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 08-31-2017, 02:35 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by WideRight05 - 08-31-2017, 03:28 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 08-31-2017, 03:51 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 08-31-2017, 05:32 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 08-31-2017, 09:26 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Bob Seger - 09-01-2017, 01:25 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 09-01-2017, 07:09 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 09-01-2017, 07:11 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by The Urban Sombrero - 09-01-2017, 01:30 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 09-01-2017, 03:17 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Wildcatk23 - 09-01-2017, 04:28 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by TheRealThing - 09-01-2017, 08:15 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by WideRight05 - 09-01-2017, 11:11 PM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 09-03-2017, 05:29 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by Bob Seger - 09-03-2017, 05:39 AM
North Korea fires Missiles Toward Japan - by catdoggy - 09-03-2017, 06:00 AM
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