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How Did We Get to the Point That We Could Consider a Communist for Pr
TheRealThing Wrote:Not that a clairvoyant could discern what your first sentence really says, but---

is it even possible for you to speak factually? When speaking of free healthcare for the privileged poor, we are discussing the expansion of Medicaid. Medicare = care as the US government has legally contracted with respect to the working citizenry. Medicaid = medical welfare. But you're certainly not kidding anyone with your efforts to conflate the two.

Medicare recipients earned their health care. The only time their hands were 'out,' is when they were from their youth, plying their trades. Now Medicaid folks? not so much. However young folks on Medicaid are often the victims of their parents. Parents who let them run wild and fail to instill any real sense of personal or moral responsibility within them. Thusly armed with raging though unbridled hormones, themselves yet babies, they proceed to make babies. Millions of them who BTW, are 100% dependent on the taxpayers. The Medicaid safety net in such case does afford opportunity for reflection and a move to a personally responsible lifestyle. Even if their educational degree is to that end, from the school of hard knocks. Still, that happy scenario is far from the norm as the vast majority of Medicaid recipients do so by choice.

You were predictably wrong when you leaped to your reductive and shallow assumption. You alleged I quoted Rhinomey. Never said the full 45% are bums, and please spare me your efforts to revise my own sourcing. What a load of monkey puke. You're intent is to berate the top 1% who generate so much by way of wealth and opportunity in this land. All the while giving an unearned pass to the Nancy Pelosi-esque, welfare dependent aspiring artists. What I said was 45% don't pay income tax. And, what I said is the aged in this land, after a lifetime of laudable efforts in self sufficiency, are forced to pay high income taxes until the day they die. We, with a head scratching level of compassion, want to hand a dignified level of life's needs to those struggling with financial self motivation. While at the same time we ruthlessly continue to slam the aged with high taxation. That continues FTR no matter how hard that may be for them, even for the number of days they may languish in pain on their death beds.

Medicare is govt sponsored healthcare for those 65 and older. If you have been on Medicaid your entire life without a job and hit 65 you will transition to Medicare/Medicaid mixture. Sanders calls his plan Medicare for all because it has zero income limitations or requirements unlike Medicaid.

Medicaid has income requirements. If you make generally over 33k in a household you will not qualify for Medicaid. Just a reminder starting police officers, teachers, soldiers and in general any full time worker making under $20 an hour WOULD qualify for Medicaid with full or partial benefits. So not all people utilizing Medicaid in its current form are bums.

So what were you saying when you said 45% of Americans don’t pay taxes? Maybe it’s the medium, but a lot of it is your tone, which suggests a disgust for people you think don’t do enough in this nation. Unfortunately wherever you get your information grossly inflates the “Pelosi art students” when in reality there are a ton of people living paycheck to paycheck whose incomes don’t pass the threshold of being taxed. However, nothing but admiration for the billionaires who can avoid paying taxes. Go figure. I guess you need to head to New York and hang with those folks because most of the people here in Kentucky are busting their tail, and really could use the healthcare that Obamacare, Medicaid, Medicare for all, or whatever could provide relief from the surprises they get every time someone in their household gets sick.

My problem with the 1% is they are generating and keeping their wealth with the help of politicians while their workers struggle and our country is struggling. I’m not advocating punishing taxes like during the 40s, 50s, 60s, but maybe go back to Clinton era, so we can help the middle class and shrink this massive debt
swells every time we have a Republican tax cut.
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How Did We Get to the Point That We Could Consider a Communist for Pr - by Cardfan1 - 02-21-2020, 10:45 PM

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