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Trump Pardon Spree
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(12-23-2020, 06:37 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(12-23-2020, 05:36 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(12-23-2020, 05:12 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: What a bunch of malarkey ?  No due process? !
Most of these crooks pled guilty and had already benefitted from the vastly different justice system in this nation for the rich.

No one was charged for Russian collusion.  I know it’s hard for you to understand, but if you are discovered to be breaking the law during a different investigation, you’re still breaking the law.
What an ignorant post. Assuming that federal investigators only use honorable means to elicit guilty pleas is a dangerous misconception, as is assuming that everybody who pleads guilty is guilty. The fact is, most of us cannot afford to pay legal fees over $600/hour for very long, whether the charges are bogus or not.

One of the reasons that charges were dropped against LTG Michael Flynn was that a meeting was disclosed at which the Justice Department discussed whether the goal would be to imprison him or simply destroy his career. That meeting was held before Flynn was questioned and after Mueller knew that Trump had broken no laws. The prosecution of Flynn was entirely political.

If the federal government wants to wreck your life and you are not a very wealthy individual, it will wreck your life.

I don’t assume federal investigators use only honorable means.  

They don’t, but it is rich that once those same tactics used on everyone else are used in the elite suddenly it’s not fair.  

These people did not get abused by the justice system. Both served under 30 days for something a regular citizen would have received a year or more.

Fact is they all lied to derail the Mueller investigation, and protect Trump.  

How about the other pardons?  Campaign finance,  SEC fraud, and Blackwater War Crimes...oh my.
I am not impressed with the case you are trying to make. Everybody that every president has pardoned has been found guilty or charged with a crime, to the best of my knowledge. Trump has exercised the pardon power of the presidency far less often than ANY modern president.

Where is the beef? If you have evidence that Trump has sold pardons to wealthy criminals who later donated to his campaign, then I will join you in condemning him for pardoning people. Otherwise, it seems like you would be pleased that Trump has approved so few pardon requests.

Please explain why it is wrong for Trump to use the pardon power sparingly, but it was okay for Obama and Clinton to use it far more often, and in at least one case, in exchange for campaign donations?
Messages In This Thread
Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 09:56 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 11:28 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 12:10 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 12:19 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 12:39 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 12:49 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 02:09 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 02:26 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 01:28 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 12:23 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 05:36 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 06:49 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 05:55 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:25 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 06:44 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:19 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 08:04 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 09:04 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 09:27 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 09:39 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 10:52 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 12:28 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by The Outsider - 12-24-2020, 12:45 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Old School Hound - 12-27-2020, 01:01 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:48 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 01:07 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 01:25 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 11:10 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2020, 02:15 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 03:17 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by The Outsider - 12-27-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Spirit100 - 12-27-2020, 01:49 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2020, 02:19 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2020, 04:01 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2020, 04:31 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 12-27-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 01-20-2021, 12:11 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by vector#1 - 01-20-2021, 12:14 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 01-20-2021, 12:30 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 01-20-2021, 10:18 AM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 01-20-2021, 12:11 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 01-20-2021, 12:16 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 01-20-2021, 12:29 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Hoot Gibson - 01-20-2021, 12:35 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Cardfan1 - 01-20-2021, 12:53 PM
RE: Trump Pardon Spree - by Old School Hound - 01-20-2021, 02:43 AM

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