[DevilsWin]

In forums such as this when 2 people are in a seriously heated debate in the rush to present ones argument sometimes facts and figures get taken out of context.

Playing a game of statistical "gotcha" reduces the debate to the same level we have become used to seeing on cable network news channels.

I would like both Coach Owens and Old School to continue this discussion and try to find the middle ground of this issue. They should start with what they both agree on and work from there.