[Cardfan1]

There was a global economic downturn beginning in 2007 actually. Obama sidestepped that and blamed the whole thing on George W Bush. Never waste a crisis, right? As I recall he blamed W ad nauseum. I was alive and kicking then and my memory of 2007 onward is superlative for the record. Not the first word of what I wrote is in error. I know what happened, I was part of it. You a teacher there Cardfan? You talk down to folks like it's second nature. That tack might serve in the classroom, but it fails when you get out in the real world. In any case, I don't develop my perspective by assimilating talking points or adopting other people's opinions. And I am certain that we are not likely to ever agree on your batting average.

Thank you I do know my history in fact, well enough to know a lot of people and textbook writers have taken a lot of liberties with accuracy of late. MLK was a great man, and one whom fought for the civil rights of black people. His message IMHO, could be adequately summed up in one sentence from his "I Have a Dream Speech." MLK's fond hope was that 'one day all men would be judged on the content of their character, and not the color of their skin.' Noble enough, but honestly though man has made progress to that end, I doubt that is possible this side of the Lord's Millennium.

Like civil rights progress, the social upheaval of which you speak was a world wide phenomenon, not relegated to just the US. Aristocrats and industrial big wigs got their attitude adjustments thanks to the efforts of labor unions and social pressure. Why can't you connect the dots without the predictable detour through La-La Land? But what I know is, I wouldn't want somebody like you deciding how much money should be positioned at the 'top of the ladder.' And I mean you've got to be kidding, you thought you needed to tell me you advocate for wealth redistribution? LOL.

My prediction is you'll get to see some form of revolution, but I don't think you're going to be very happy with what you see. I suspect you're hoping a mini revolution is about to erupt right now. That way all us conservatives would be shuffled and stacked according to the liberal view of things whether we like it or not. You really think the have nots hate only white Republicans but love white Dems? :eyeroll:

Wait...was it handouts by a socialist government or a 2007 global downturn? Starting to twist into a pretzel.

I apologize if you feel I’ve talked down to you. I enjoy a good discussion. I do try to back up my arguments with facts, so if that comes across as know-it-all it’s because I just confirmed it with more than one source.

There is a parallel between the Progressive era and today.

40 years of stagnant wages and massive income inequality. The strength of unions has been weakened by “right to work” laws and the outsourcing of manufacturing (losing a huge social pressure block). Young adults, Middle and lower class frustration is growing. Some may have voted for Trump in 2016, but they are getting nothing but the same.

No, I don’t think the have nots only hate Republicans. Sanders isn’t a democrat, which explains a good portion of his support.