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Biden/Harris administration wants access to your bank account
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(09-11-2021, 10:00 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-10-2021, 11:29 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-10-2021, 04:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-10-2021, 04:06 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-10-2021, 03:42 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: You just made the premiere argument for the coming cashless society and consequently the mark of the beast there Cardfan. Do away with cash and do away with under the counter enterprise, black markets, and myriad kinds of crime they will say. And of course people like you will applaud it with glazed over eyeballs.  Rev 13:17 "and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name"

All employers are required to send documentation for all who perform work in excess of 699 dollars on their behalf, to the IRS. End of story. There is a similarly inescapable process involved with investing, annuities, pensions, dividends certain kinds of insurance payments and interest bearing accounts of all kinds. They KNOW what you make already. But if they know what you buy--- now we're talking a whole new ballgame. That tells who you are and what you hold important above all else.

So likely it's the end all way to track what people do and it's deliberately un-American. So too are the federal government's access to your gps info, and the world of info they mine from email, phone and texting, all the social media platforms, medical services en-toto, and anything else one could name. The irony here is while CF and vector are cheering on government intrusion as usual, the controls foisted upon humanity as the result of which will fall just as heavily upon them.

But listen, I've been warning about this kind of thing for decades. Globalism will lead to total control in any case. J Vernon McGee flatly states that other than men recognizing the sovereignty of God, the only option is secularism which in turn invariably leads to totalitarian government. Totalitarian   ---"relating to a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state" This form of government is nothing new at all. Rome was an example of totalitarian control from which there was no escape or relief even back before the electronic surveillance of my mention above was unimaginable.

A government staffed with true believers and at their fingertips a government data base of unimaginable completeness, could easily wreak havoc on every citizen in the US and frankly the world. And let's face it. Who really is the left's enemy here, Republicans? Or is it Christ and His followers?

The stage for Antichrist is set, or all but set. The brotherhood of man is about to flourish but according to what the Lord has said, this self created utopia man sets up will only last 3 and a half years. From that point on it will take only another 3 and a half years to bring mankind to the threshold of self extinction...   for a total of 7 years, the prophesied duration of the Great Tribulation.
The govt. knows everything about you, TRT, that ship sailed years ago thanks to the Patriot Act. 
Why don't we use that same power to stiff those who are stiffing this country?
Aren't these tax evaders criminals like domestic and foreign terrorists?  

What are you buying that you're afraid of people seeing?    Cool

Gee I don't know let me think... a secret desire to punch you in the mouth? Undecided
Big Grin 
stay safe TRT

(09-10-2021, 11:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: This has nothing to do with catching criminals and tax evaders, that is just the rationalization for violating Americans' 4th Amendment rights. The gun control analogy is spot on. Gun crime thrives in the midst of the toughest gun control laws in the country because criminals do not purchase their guns legally.

Long term, the federal government will monetize the data that they collect on private citizens. I am not sure how they will rationalize doing so, but they will come up with a plausible excuse to appeal to liberals who will once again tell us how they "have nothing to hide." The combination of Big Government, Big Tech, and Big Data is one of the biggest threats that this nation faces.
Hoot, let’s stay on point the 10 states with the weakest gun laws have 3 times more gun violence than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.  I am a gun supporter so let’s not mix messages here.  We are talking about the wealthy dancing around their responsibility.  Do you have a better way? 
Did you agree with the patriot act so we could hunt down Muslim terrorists?  We are now using that for Qanon and right wingers who want to destroy America?  If you did, then you agree with the same efforts of catching financial crooks. 

speculating that our govt will sell our information is ironic considering your idol DJT was elected using private information sold from Facebook to Russian disinformation agencies. Dodgy
I supported most of the Patriot Act but I would support repealing most of its provisions now. The Patriot Act should never have been used against American citizens for political purposes. I suspect that your stat about gun violence is wrong, but I am not going to spend time fact-checking it so that we can stay on topic as you suggested.

I reject the premise that Democrats want access to all of our financial transactions to catch tax evaders, so my solution is to scrap the bill. I also do not believe that the federal government knows what its shortfall in income tax revenues is and I believe that the purpose of stating an estimated number is to justify the proposed assault on our Fourth Amendment rights. If the federal government knows how much tax revenue is lost to tax evasion, then they can obtain warrants against the evaders and gather evidence against them in a constitutional manner.

Your last statement is not true but even if it were true, then it would not be grounds to support the proposed law. The law would be the digital equivalent to searching door to door for a murder weapon, centered on the location of the corpse, with no warrants. I do not believe that such a law would be found constitutional and cannot understand how any American could support such a proposal.
I’ll have to see more. The US is at red alert level as far as tax evasion is concerned.

Who knows if this proposal  will get anywhere…probably just red meat for progressives.
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RE: Biden/Harris administration wants access to your bank account - by Cardfan1 - 09-11-2021, 11:18 AM

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