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First RPI is out.
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(09-23-2021, 09:18 AM)HSFOOTBALL Wrote:
(09-22-2021, 04:48 PM)Hound05 Wrote:
(09-22-2021, 11:35 AM)HSFOOTBALL Wrote:
(09-21-2021, 03:20 PM)Hound05 Wrote:
(09-21-2021, 11:53 AM)HSFOOTBALL Wrote: RPI is broken.  Frankfort beat Paris by like 50 and Paris is rated higher in the RPI lmao.
No not really. Like everyone says, RPI isn’t meant for the beginning or even 2/3’s of a the season. The more you play, the more it accurate. But even a majority of systems or metrics wouldn’t be right after 4-5 games. I do believe it does need some tweaking. But it’s so much better than cross dristric’ing. Now you have title games that are awesome for the most part.

At no point in a season should a team who lost to another team by 50 be ranked above that team.  If the rest of their games were cancelled for Covid, Paris would have a better rating than Frankfort, and that is as broken of a system as you can have. 

On top of that RPI only effects 2 rounds of playoffs, Regardless of RPI a good team in a good district has less chance of making it to RPI based games than a bad team in a bad district.  If you want to fix the system then you need to do away with inner district playoffs and seed the entire playoffs based off RPI.  In order to make that work you have to fix the RPI to begin with.
Respectfully I’m just gonna have to disagree with your first paragraph. That’s like saying in a basketball game, a horrible team makes the first couple of shots and goes up 6 to 0 in the first few minutes of the game, against the best team out there. The rest of the first qtr, and the other 3 qtrs will come into effect, and the truth will emerge. Imagine doing an NCAA basketball tournament with 64 teams 8 games in the season, and all the teams that would make it and the ones who should being left out. The more data you put in, the more accurate. 

i don’t understand your last statement. How is it easier for a bad team to make it?

Huh?

How is losing a football game by 50 pts equivalent to going down 6 pts in the 1st quarter of a basketball game?

It's obvious the more data points the better, but I can tell you your system is broke if 2 weeks ago we lined up and played head to head and I beat you by 50 and today you are ranked ahead of me. Any way you want to slice it.

As for the last statement, let me give you an example Marion County, Spencer County, Louisville Moore and Valley are in District 3.  None of those teams would likely win a game in district 7 or District 5.  So those are all bad teams in a bad district.  However, 1 of those teams will make it to RPI play because the first 2 rounds of playoffs are inner district.  Now, in adverse either Boyle County or Catholic, both of which would run through district 3 many times over, one of those team will not make it to RPI play because they have to play each other in inner district playoffs.  Which means that one of their RPI's that they worked for all season matters nothing.

Hence a Bad team in a Bad district is rewarded and a good team in a good district is punished.
As for the statements about the 50 point win, the next 5 weeks the amount of opponents winning percentage and opponents opponents winning percentage will award the high rpi for all classes. For example, if everyone had a ten win season, at the end of the year the opponents win column would have 100 games to go off of, and the OOWP would have 1000 games to go off of. So there’s a lot more to factor in. As of now we are 5 weeks in and both paris and frankfort, to use in your example, have 5 games, EXCEPT paris had a covid loss. That means that frankfort has theoretically 25 games in the OWP and 125 in the OOWP while paris has less substantially. Time will turn that number around. 

By the way, it was a 27 point game in the first game of the season. There’s been many cases of a team getting better as the year goes on and a team getting worse. Frankfort has lost 2 games to other opponents, Paris has one real loss to frankfort and won against better opponents. Take is as you be.
Messages In This Thread
First RPI is out. - by T-CATS - 09-20-2021, 04:25 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-20-2021, 06:35 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by T-CATS - 09-20-2021, 06:54 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-20-2021, 06:55 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Jack Lambert - 09-20-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by TD Hounds - 09-20-2021, 08:32 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Jack Lambert - 09-20-2021, 08:39 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by bucslover68 - 09-20-2021, 08:47 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by zaga_fan - 09-20-2021, 10:24 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Gridiron_Raid - 09-21-2021, 12:47 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Patriot1 - 09-21-2021, 08:50 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Gridiron_Raid - 09-21-2021, 10:38 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by 2000PHS - 09-21-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Scotty_Bronson - 09-21-2021, 06:18 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Patriot1 - 09-21-2021, 07:50 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Scotty_Bronson - 09-21-2021, 08:43 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-21-2021, 08:47 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-21-2021, 08:44 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by HSFOOTBALL - 09-21-2021, 11:53 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-21-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by jetpilot - 09-22-2021, 12:28 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-22-2021, 01:35 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by HSFOOTBALL - 09-22-2021, 11:35 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-22-2021, 04:48 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by HSFOOTBALL - 09-23-2021, 09:18 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Gridiron_Raid - 09-23-2021, 03:41 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hambley - 09-22-2021, 07:05 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Red and Black Attack - 09-21-2021, 12:09 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by TD Hounds - 09-21-2021, 02:36 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by wolfcat - 09-22-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by MayfieldCardinal - 09-23-2021, 03:23 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by wolfcat - 09-24-2021, 07:55 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by MayfieldCardinal - 09-24-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by KentuckyHillBilly5321 - 09-21-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Gridiron_Raid - 09-21-2021, 04:08 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Old School Hound - 09-21-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Gridiron_Raid - 09-21-2021, 04:25 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Old School Hound - 09-21-2021, 06:18 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-21-2021, 06:35 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by FootballFan1999 - 09-21-2021, 08:39 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by FootballFan1999 - 09-21-2021, 09:08 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-21-2021, 09:09 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Old School Hound - 09-22-2021, 01:16 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-22-2021, 06:28 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by 64SUR - 09-21-2021, 07:27 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by mysonis55 - 09-21-2021, 07:47 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by TD Hounds - 09-21-2021, 10:32 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bossdaddy 4115 - 09-21-2021, 11:58 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-22-2021, 08:33 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by BEChargers - 09-22-2021, 08:53 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Hound05 - 09-22-2021, 09:29 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Jack Lambert - 09-22-2021, 06:55 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Red and Black Attack - 09-22-2021, 07:08 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-22-2021, 07:17 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Iggyfan - 09-22-2021, 09:06 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bull got out! - 09-22-2021, 09:18 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Iggyfan - 09-22-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: First RPI is out. - by BEChargers - 09-23-2021, 08:33 AM
RE: First RPI is out. - by Bossdaddy 4115 - 09-23-2021, 07:50 PM

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