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Judge Roy Moore
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:I am not the one who misused the word and refused to admit my mistake. Any adult male who maintains a sexual relationship with a 14 year old or attempts to enter into such a relationship is guilty of disgusting behavior, and depending on state law, perhaps statutory rape, but those actions do not constitute pedophelia. Look it up, genius.

And, again, Parser Thin, your hair splitting might carry weight in your world, but do the experiment. Land on the yard. Find out reality.
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TheRealThing Wrote:Getting girls to bring charges of sexual misconduct against any man that walks, including a sitting President, has been shown within the last year's time to be anything but hard to do.

When it was pointed out that you don't know a single thing past that which any of us on here knows about Judge Moore, you retreated back into familiar territory to say that everybody in government is supposedly equally beset of perversion and a bent to lie. Which of course is baloney and inconsistent at best, as you're nonetheless calling for Moore to step aside based on little more than a rumor of same. Using your rationale they'd all need to step down. But if candidates and politicians do not hold their accusers to a legal standard, those accusers could reasonably say anything and where would one draw the line if not the courtroom?

It's incredible that such a self-styled genius would repeatedly have to have this stuff explained. Or perhaps you'd prefer to hold the entire elective process hostage to such ignorance?
Do you remember Geraldo getting this all bent out of shape when Anthony Weiner was doing his little dirty deeds like he is about Moore....Not a peep...Wanna know why?...It's because he don't give a tiddly toot about underaged girls to begin with....This is all about being a party hack...nothing more, nothing less.


And also we can ask the same statement concerning The Motley Fool...Not one single word back then...Not one.


Just goes to show ya. Huh?
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Bob Seger Wrote:Do you remember Geraldo getting this all bent out of shape when Anthony Weiner was doing his little dirty deeds like he is about Moore....Not a peep...Wanna know why?...It's because he don't give a tiddly toot about underaged girls to begin with....This is all about being a party hack...nothing more, nothing less.


And also we can ask the same statement concerning The Motley Fool...Not one single word back then...Not one.


Just goes to show ya. Huh?


I don't recall a single occasion that he'd any sort of complaint against Dems before or after his retread.
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This is laughable, of course, because the Sombrero wasn’t here then, but 2nd, in this very thread, Weiner is addressed. Now, the circumstances in the Weiner v. Moore scenario are different, but neither belong in Congress. Both Dems and Pubs want that seat. Neither are above shenanigans to get it. I still would bet on whatever ‘Pub ends up high ticket. The “IF” that opened this thread proves the point of tribalism or zealotry or Patti Partisanship. Yep, sure does.
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The Urban Sombrero Wrote:⬆️
This is laughable, of course, because the Sombrero wasn’t here then, but 2nd, in this very thread, Weiner is addressed. Now, the circumstances in the Weiner v. Moore scenario are different, but neither belong in Congress. Both Dems and Pubs want that seat. Neither are above shenanigans to get it. I still would bet on whatever ‘Pub ends up high ticket. The “IF” that opened this thread proves the point of tribalism or zealotry or Patti Partisanship. Yep, sure does.

You LIE!!
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Bob Seger Wrote:You LIE!!

Boommerrang.

A sixth woman? Let’s see: now why would a woman not report a man given power by the state, or network, or corporation enabling him to have a measure of control over positive or negative outcomes in her life? You ol’ boys showed your backsides this time. For sure.
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Bob Seger Wrote:You LIE!!

Eh, you know.

However, six women? Now, who is lying? Tribalists.
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The Urban Sombrero Wrote:⬆️
This is laughable, of course, because the Sombrero wasn’t here then, but 2nd, in this very thread, Weiner is addressed. Now, the circumstances in the Weiner v. Moore scenario are different, but neither belong in Congress. Both Dems and Pubs want that seat. Neither are above shenanigans to get it. I still would bet on whatever ‘Pub ends up high ticket. The “IF” that opened this thread proves the point of tribalism or zealotry or Patti Partisanship. Yep, sure does.


Bob Seger Wrote:You LIE!!



Ever heard what a little kid says when playing alone with his toys Bob? You get a sort of color commentary, complete with monologue and sound effects. In his little world that tot is king, he determines the beginning and the end. That's the hit I get reading that stuff.

Nobody knows how many if any of the charges against Judge Moore are true or not true. One of the oldest political tricks in the book is to make a charge close to election day when it is too late for the one charged to properly respond. What made this one so bad was Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan's statements, which had the effect of being the last straw for wavering Moore supporters. They went on the offensive which of course benefited only one guy, Democrat and rabid liberal Doug Jones. So based on glorified rumor they've likely managed to change the balance of power in the Senate to the Democrats for the remainder of the Trump era. McCain, Corker and Flake are out, and with Strange/Moore out and Doug Jones in, Majority Leader Schumer anybody?

I'm telling you, I think McConnell may be in the early stages of dementia or something, and I don't know what to think about Paul Ryan. But Newt Gingrich said the matter, devoid of proof (which is exactly where we're at) should have been left up to the people of Alabama. If it were to prove that Roy Moore was guilty at some future date, given the people of Alabama in that case had elected him anyway, repercussions under Senate rules could have at that point been lawfully imposed. In the meantime, McCain, Corker, Flake (and possibly Ron Johnson and Susan Collins) should come out of the closet and switch party affiliation.
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Note the first post, speaking of dredging up fantasy.
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Boommerrang.

A sixth woman? Let’s see: now why would a woman not report a man given power by the state, or network, or corporation enabling him to have a measure of control over positive or negative outcomes in her life? You ol’ boys showed your backsides this time. For sure.

This ole boy aint got nothing for Moore to begin with, to you can throw that theory right over the cliff..My statement have anything to do with Moore...Zero!! Zilch!! Nada!!
Bob Seger Wrote:This ole boy aint got nothing for Moore to begin with, to you can throw that theory right over the cliff..My statement have anything to do with Moore...Zero!! Zilch!! Nada!!

Ah, personal rancor, then. Well, I won’t speak to that, but would like to address your hopeless negativity... (Props to O Brother Where Art Thou?)
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Eh, you know.

However, six women? Now, who is lying? Tribalists.

Who is lying
6 women
Paid by Dems to lie
diceman Wrote:Who is lying
6 women
Paid by Dems to lie



Consider this; If the yearbook in question with Roy Moore's sig, and as held in supposed evidence by Atty Gloria Allred is in fact real, why not let that fact be confirmed by independent examination? She is holding the yearbook until after the election.

As things stand Moore may yet come out on top in the Alabama Senatorial race. So why take that kind of a chance unless... all they're actually trying to do is steal the election based on suggestion of sexual misconduct? Of course such examination could prove the allegation past doubt to many voters, that is unless it's just an indefensible allegation. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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diceman Wrote:Who is lying
6 women
Paid by Dems to lie

Six?
TheRealThing Wrote:Consider this; If the yearbook in question with Roy Moore's sig, and as held in supposed evidence by Atty Gloria Allred is in fact real, why not let that fact be confirmed by independent examination? She is holding the yearbook until after the election.

As things stand Moore may yet come out on top in the Alabama Senatorial race. So why take that kind of a chance unless... all they're actually trying to do is steal the election based on suggestion of sexual misconduct? Of course such examination could prove the allegation past doubt to many voters, that is unless it's just an indefensible allegation. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Consider this: Moore may yet win yet be a man with a history of stalking teenage girls. In culture warland, the positions one takes on, oh, about five or six issues color everything, and I mean everything. Just read through these threads. Tribalism.
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Consider this: Moore may yet win yet be a man with a history of stalking teenage girls. In culture warland, the positions one takes on, oh, about five or six issues color everything, and I mean everything. Just read through these threads. Tribalism.



"and I mean everything" another example of phraseology uniquely applicable to my writing style, but let's face it. There is no phrase you will not steal for your own.

But maybe squeezing the entirety of God's Creation through that liberal lens is an example of enlightened thought, more probably however it is not.
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TheRealThing Wrote:"and I mean everything" another example of phraseology uniquely applicable to my writing style, but let's face it. There is no phrase you will not steal for your own.

But maybe squeezing the entirety of God's Creation through that liberal lens is an example of enlightened thought, more probably however it is not.

Common phrases are not owned.
Perhaps you know that. Perhaps not.
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Common phrases are not owned.
Perhaps you know that. Perhaps not.




Right, I don't own it and you copy it. :Thumbs:
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Hear ye, hear ye, today marks quite the auspicious occasion!

Some months ago Gitback Coach evidently found his purpose in life. Since that time he has 'liked' all by his lonesome now mind you, over 1,000 posts by The Urban Sombrero. Confusedinglepar :Clap: Confusedinglepar :1:

You see, over time and through circumstance I've been obliged with the task of asking for some measure of justification for Sombrero's many charges of laxity and impropriety on the part of the GOP. I had occasion therefore in reading his posts to make notice those several months ago, that Sombrero hadn't received much by way of positive reinforcement via agreeable posts or 'likes.'

Enter Gitback Coach, the exclusive member of the one thousand likes club. Confusednicker:
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Pedophilia has a very specific defintion, and doesn't align with Roy Moore's actions:

Pedo:
Sexxual attraction to childern under the age of 12 (pre-pubescent).

Hebo:
Attraction to early pubescent childern between 11-14.

Ephebo:
Attraction to post-pubescen children/adolescents between 15-19.


Not meaning to sound like a creep, but its my experience that almost every guy on earth seeks out a 'teen' to -- umm... date (18-19 year olds). I'd say that 'date' is a very loose translation. However, the correct word has 4 letters as well.

Elvis was hooking up with Priscilla when she was in her early/mid teens. The mother of Jesus was likely 12-15 years old. And hollywood makes sex symbols out of teens on a daily basis -- britney, xtina, disney girls, hayden paneteirre, chloe grace-moretz, etc.

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He isn't exactly abnormal in his attraction to girls in their late teens. That doesn't make it cool, ethical, or even legal (if they were under the age of consent, or they were girls he was prosecuting or otherwise involved with in his capacity as D.A.)... what it does make it is: hypocritical based upon his christian beliefs. And if they happened (and i have no reason to doubt the claims based upon his own admission, those of his colleagues, and the girls themselves)... then he is lying through his teeth, further damaging his 'christianity'.

Supposedly, Moore starting dating his wife when she was still married to her first husband.

This guy is a joke, and possibly the antichrist.
According to Senator Luther Strange---

The campaign to reelect Luther Strange spent millions of dollars in opposition research. Nothing of Roy Moore's supposed checkered past came to light as the result of that research. In fact, nothing exists by way of confirmation for the recent rash of accusations. Accusations BTW which remained suspiciously silent during the other campaigns of which Roy Moore has been the candidate.

As to the record of fidelity applicable to most people in this day in time. It is in one word, messy. Our culture encourages a sort of 'season of sowing wild oats.' As anybody who's gone to college knows, wild sexualism is there a thing to celebrate. And as I experienced first hand when my son was being recruited as an athlete, 'the Greek Life' is a major recruitment inducement. But sexual wildness is not relegated to college kids. Even junior high kids are these days involved in sexting, sending pictures of themselves out into the cyber hall of fame. Wrongful sex is celebrated in our movies and on television, and the romance novel industry is incredibly seductive to whet the imaginations of their female targets. Popular music too, is rife with inference of promiscuity and tryst. Not even the Church House pew is sanctuary enough to prevent actions of fornication, as has been charged in the case of Rep John Conyers. But marriage is no haven of faithfulness either. Rather the case then is to be very cautious in keeping extramarital affairs a secret.

Further I believe women routinely use their wiles to advance themselves, particularly in Hollywood. But as any CEO can verify, such behavior is hardly limited to the entertainment industry. Our nation is awash in such shameful pursuit. Even something which would be seemingly innocuous as the advertisement industry, has long used their ads as a medium for sexuality, as today's TV commercials routinely feature biracial entanglements to sell everything from Bahamian vacations to pizza. None of which of course, would apply to Roy Moore preying on young girls, but the legions of those judging and making pronouncements of self righteous indignation devoid of validation, do so hypocritically. Pastors say things like America is morally bankrupt, and I agree.

Having said that, there is a lightyear of space between accusation and fact. To date we've seen absolutely nothing but the yearbook, which if authenticity were verified, could for the sake of the coming election end all the speculation. But incredibly, Gloria Allred has chosen to keep said yearbook under lock and key, until after the election. In view of the great gulf which separates the charges against Roy Moore and any proof at all, I believe it is entirely possible the stories could be made up. In any case, and you can call me hopelessly pragmatic, I prefer something on which to base my judgments in such matters other than thin air and soap operatic dirge.
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He was in his 30’s. They were teens in a mall. “Who do, who do, who do you think you’re fooling?” Are you suggesting teens in a mall were using “women’s wiles” to lure poor ol’ Roy in? Grab a club, caveman, and rub sticks together. If successful, warm yourself by the fires of your own vain musings here. And you thought it clever to suggest the Sombrero’s posts were buffalo droppings? What rot.
ronald reagan Wrote:Pedophilia has a very specific defintion, and doesn't align with Roy Moore's actions:

Pedo:
Sexxual attraction to childern under the age of 12 (pre-pubescent).

Hebo:
Attraction to early pubescent childern between 11-14.

Ephebo:
Attraction to post-pubescen children/adolescents between 15-19.


Not meaning to sound like a creep, but its my experience that almost every guy on earth seeks out a 'teen' to -- umm... date (18-19 year olds). I'd say that 'date' is a very loose translation. However, the correct word has 4 letters as well.

Elvis was hooking up with Priscilla when she was in her early/mid teens. The mother of Jesus was likely 12-15 years old. And hollywood makes sex symbols out of teens on a daily basis -- britney, xtina, disney girls, hayden paneteirre, chloe grace-moretz, etc.

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He isn't exactly abnormal in his attraction to girls in their late teens. That doesn't make it cool, ethical, or even legal (if they were under the age of consent, or they were girls he was prosecuting or otherwise involved with in his capacity as D.A.)... what it does make it is: hypocritical based upon his christian beliefs. And if they happened (and i have no reason to doubt the claims based upon his own admission, those of his colleagues, and the girls themselves)... then he is lying through his teeth, further damaging his 'christianity'.

Supposedly, Moore starting dating his wife when she was still married to her first husband.

This guy is a joke, and possibly the antichrist.

“Late teens”? Been to a mall much? You ol’ boys seem eager to parse definition with a pairing knife. Maybe look up “equivocation.”
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He was in his 30’s. They were teens in a mall. “Who do, who do, who do you think you’re fooling?” Are you suggesting teens in a mall were using “women’s wiles” to lure poor ol’ Roy in? Grab a club, caveman, and rub sticks together. If successful, warm yourself by the fires of your own vain musings here. And you thought it clever to suggest the Sombrero’s posts were buffalo droppings? What rot.



What a liar. Are you suggesting I didn't say "None of which of course, would apply to Roy Moore preying on young girls", in the very post you reference?

And need I remind you yet again there is no confirmation that Moore being banned from a mall ever really happened? If I'm wrong about that post the evidence, but I already know you can't. I will take your idea of what constitutes vain musings anytime over libel. In any case the facts it would seem, continue to elude as the confusion over what thread is being addressed would indicate.
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Dems hit hard again.
Sexual predator Franken now gone.

I'm beginning to wonder if they are any liberals who aren't pedos or molesters
Note, “Are you suggesting...?”
Lighten up, Francis. Roy Moore prosecutor was in the mall, was in the hunt for teen gals. But, for left and right, politics, policy, power...it is what it is.
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Dems hit hard again.
Sexual predator Franken now gone.

I'm beginning to wonder if they are any liberals who aren't pedos or molesters


Were this not pathetically short- sighted and sans historical perspective, ah, well, it’d still be pathetic.
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He was in his 30’s. They were teens in a mall. “Who do, who do, who do you think you’re fooling?” Are you suggesting teens in a mall were using “women’s wiles” to lure poor ol’ Roy in? Grab a club, caveman, and rub sticks together. If successful, warm yourself by the fires of your own vain musings here. And you thought it clever to suggest the Sombrero’s posts were buffalo droppings? What rot.

The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Note, “Are you suggesting...?”
Lighten up, Francis. Roy Moore prosecutor was in the mall, was in the hunt for teen gals. But, for left and right, politics, policy, power...it is what it is.


Lighten up yourself. I made certain you couldn't twist my words in that particular direction and you did it anyway. My post was abundantly clear, not misworded, exactly the opposite in fact of your petty and entirely predictable charge.

Of course I knew any form of proof would not be forthcoming.
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The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Were this not pathetically short- sighted and sans historical perspective, ah, well, it’d still be pathetic.

It really makes sense now as to why women like Ashley Judd have become such crazy feminist and like to proclaim themselves "nasty women."
Their entire life they've been around these liberal men who it seems 90% of are sexual predators.
In retaliation for their injustices, they In Turn take it out on conservatives who wish to help them.
It's the same as when a victim blames themselves. You can credit their shortcomings to the women of the 60s who begged for jobs and independence instead of the traditional family life. Its a shame really thay they were taken advantage of by liberal men.
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It makes perfect sense in the imperfect world of a biased perception. Unfortunately, that explains your explainings.

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