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05-21-2021, 12:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2021, 01:00 PM by Old School Hound.)
It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
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05-21-2021, 01:12 PM
(05-21-2021, 12:59 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:I have said it on here numerous times it's no longer party of Lincoln it's the party of George Wallace 2.0
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
05-21-2021, 03:00 PM
(05-20-2021, 11:47 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.I've read lots and lots of stuff about Trump's life prior to becoming a player on the political stage. Most of what I've learned are assessments from people who have known him most of his life. It seems his guy has always been a lowlife and a failed businessman, kept afloat by his family's bailouts. Just a bad, bad man and a really sick man. I never found a whole lot I agreed with when it came to Reagan, the Bush's, , Romney, etc... but I never view them as bad humans. In fact, there are things I liked about them personally, if not politically. There is not a single thing to like about this Trump fella. Nothing. He suffers from EDD ---Empathy Deficit Disorder . As Outsider correctly pointed out, Trump is just a terrible human being and has been so for decades. The monster we saw ,as a nation , for four years is the same monster those around him witnessed for the last four plus decades.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.Outsider, there is hardly a day goes by that I don't think about some of these same things. And it's even worst than that. Many of these Trump loyalists are evangelicals...In my area, I know many Southern Baptist evangelicals who think this man's orange sh!t doesn't stink. If nothing else, Trump did one thing that may serve humanity in a positive way down the road--- He helped expose many on the religious right for the hypocrites they are and have always been. Lots of new, young anti-theists now because of this Trump chump and the evangelicals odd affection for him.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
I recall telling friends and family members some of the crazy statements that Trump has made and them responding by saying, oh, he didn't really say that. I would then tell them that I heard the statement come out of his mouth and they still didn't believe that he would say such things. A lot of people only hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe.
05-21-2021, 03:51 PM
(05-21-2021, 03:00 PM)The Outsider Wrote:It blows my mind that Americans can treat this guy like a king. The most religious excuse his behavior. The most conservative brush away his subversion of democracy. We now live in a bizarro world.(05-20-2021, 11:47 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.I've read lots and lots of stuff about Trump's life prior to becoming a player on the political stage. Most of what I've learned are assessments from people who have known him most of his life. It seems his guy has always been a lowlife and a failed businessman, kept afloat by his family's bailouts. Just a bad, bad man and a really sick man. I never found a whole lot I agreed with when it came to Reagan, the Bush's, , Romney, etc... but I never view them as bad humans. In fact, there are things I liked about them personally, if not politically. There is not a single thing to like about this Trump fella. Nothing. He suffers from EDD ---Empathy Deficit Disorder . As Outsider correctly pointed out, Trump is just a terrible human being and has been so for decades. The monster we saw ,as a nation , for four years is the same monster those around him witnessed for the last four plus decades.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.Outsider, there is hardly a day goes by that I don't think about some of these same things. And it's even worst than that. Many of these Trump loyalists are evangelicals...In my area, I know many Southern Baptist evangelicals who think this man's orange sh!t doesn't stink. If nothing else, Trump did one thing that may serve humanity in a positive way down the road--- He helped expose many on the religious right for the hypocrites they are and have always been. Lots of new, young anti-theists now because of this Trump chump and the evangelicals odd affection for him.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
I recall telling friends and family members some of the crazy statements that Trump has made and them responding by saying, oh, he didn't really say that. I would then tell them that I heard the statement come out of his mouth and they still didn't believe that he would say such things. A lot of people only hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe.
05-21-2021, 04:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2021, 04:29 PM by TheRealThing.)
(05-21-2021, 12:59 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
First off can we at least agree that this was the very best that you could have done? At least you did manage to put something up, so you get an A for effort. Not a lot for establishing fact though. Thousands of examples you say? I see only two which are neither off base or otherwise non applicable. The rest are easily and arguably a stretch.
1991 - John O'Donnell's book. First point, I haven't read the book but I did not find where O'Donnell ever actually named any source claiming to be the person to whom Trump made those remarks. Secondly, I cannot find the Playboy interview in question to see what "stuff O'Donnell wrote" that Trump was saying was probably true. Third, O'Donnell is, wait for it... a flamming lib who's written and interviewed on liberal media in the negative vein against Trump for decades. Doesn't mean that in or of themselves, those facts constitute an ironclad defense for Trump. But let's face it. Liberal media especially CNN, & MSDNC, have been merciless in their pursuit of DJT's downfall. I would rather see the offended person/entity come forward, than to take the word of media with a dollar to make and an ax to grind. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
1992 - May well have happened. As owner Trump would have been liable, but liability and culpability can be miles apart and I don't see where anyone established that Trump was there at the time and very likely was not. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
Now do we want to start dissecting William Jefferson Clinton's racial remarks? How about starting with the one about Obama? The New York Post-- "Only days before he will nominate Barack Obama for re-election, a new report claims that in 2008, former President Bill Clinton said of him: “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” https://nypost.com/2012/09/03/bill-clint...a-in-2008/
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(05-21-2021, 04:26 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(05-21-2021, 12:59 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
First off can we at least agree that this was the very best that you could have done? At least you did manage to put something up, so you get an A for effort. Not a lot for establishing fact though. Thousands of examples you say? I see only two which are neither off base or otherwise non applicable. The rest are easily and arguably a stretch.
1991 - John O'Donnell's book. First point, I haven't read the book but I did not find where O'Donnell ever actually named any source claiming to be the person to whom Trump made those remarks. Secondly, I cannot find the Playboy interview in question to see what "stuff O'Donnell wrote" that Trump was saying was probably true. Third, O'Donnell is, wait for it... a flamming lib who's written and interviewed on liberal media in the negative vein against Trump for decades. Doesn't mean that in or of themselves, those facts constitute an ironclad defense for Trump. But let's face it. Liberal media especially CNN, & MSDNC, have been merciless in their pursuit of DJT's downfall. I would rather see the offended person/entity come forward, than to take the word of media with a dollar to make and an ax to grind. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
1992 - May well have happened. As owner Trump would have been liable, but liability and culpability can be miles apart and I don't see where anyone established that Trump was there at the time and very likely was not. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
Now do we want to start dissecting William Jefferson Clinton's racial remarks? How about starting with the one about Obama? The New York Post-- "Only days before he will nominate Barack Obama for re-election, a new report claims that in 2008, former President Bill Clinton said of him: “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” https://nypost.com/2012/09/03/bill-clint...a-in-2008/
Comparing him to the Clintons is not a very high bar, but he doesn't come close to measuring up even to that standard...
(05-21-2021, 03:00 PM)The Outsider Wrote:It's because they are getting THEIR info from places like Catturd(05-20-2021, 11:47 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.I've read lots and lots of stuff about Trump's life prior to becoming a player on the political stage. Most of what I've learned are assessments from people who have known him most of his life. It seems his guy has always been a lowlife and a failed businessman, kept afloat by his family's bailouts. Just a bad, bad man and a really sick man. I never found a whole lot I agreed with when it came to Reagan, the Bush's, , Romney, etc... but I never view them as bad humans. In fact, there are things I liked about them personally, if not politically. There is not a single thing to like about this Trump fella. Nothing. He suffers from EDD ---Empathy Deficit Disorder . As Outsider correctly pointed out, Trump is just a terrible human being and has been so for decades. The monster we saw ,as a nation , for four years is the same monster those around him witnessed for the last four plus decades.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
(05-20-2021, 02:58 PM)The Outsider Wrote: Can someone who is a Trump supporter reasonably explain to me how they can overlook all of his underhanded business dealings, his horrific mistreatment of women and his habitual lying? I'm not even talking about politics or even talking about the time since he became President, but he has been a bad human being for the last 40 years or so.Outsider, there is hardly a day goes by that I don't think about some of these same things. And it's even worst than that. Many of these Trump loyalists are evangelicals...In my area, I know many Southern Baptist evangelicals who think this man's orange sh!t doesn't stink. If nothing else, Trump did one thing that may serve humanity in a positive way down the road--- He helped expose many on the religious right for the hypocrites they are and have always been. Lots of new, young anti-theists now because of this Trump chump and the evangelicals odd affection for him.
I have a hard time understanding how they believe what he claims to be instead of actually looking at the man and seeing what he obviously is. There are others from history that have been able to pull off the same charade, which makes it scary going forward that so many seem to have learned nothing from it. He has come very close to tearing the country so far apart that we may never recover. People need to open their eyes and see the real Donald Trump!
I recall telling friends and family members some of the crazy statements that Trump has made and them responding by saying, oh, he didn't really say that. I would then tell them that I heard the statement come out of his mouth and they still didn't believe that he would say such things. A lot of people only hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe.
(05-21-2021, 04:26 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:Well TRT Clinton is from Arkansas could be his upbringing but he did change after he got older unlike the Dear Leader or should I say Wallace 2.0(05-21-2021, 12:59 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
First off can we at least agree that this was the very best that you could have done? At least you did manage to put something up, so you get an A for effort. Not a lot for establishing fact though. Thousands of examples you say? I see only two which are neither off base or otherwise non applicable. The rest are easily and arguably a stretch.
1991 - John O'Donnell's book. First point, I haven't read the book but I did not find where O'Donnell ever actually named any source claiming to be the person to whom Trump made those remarks. Secondly, I cannot find the Playboy interview in question to see what "stuff O'Donnell wrote" that Trump was saying was probably true. Third, O'Donnell is, wait for it... a flamming lib who's written and interviewed on liberal media in the negative vein against Trump for decades. Doesn't mean that in or of themselves, those facts constitute an ironclad defense for Trump. But let's face it. Liberal media especially CNN, & MSDNC, have been merciless in their pursuit of DJT's downfall. I would rather see the offended person/entity come forward, than to take the word of media with a dollar to make and an ax to grind. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
1992 - May well have happened. As owner Trump would have been liable, but liability and culpability can be miles apart and I don't see where anyone established that Trump was there at the time and very likely was not. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
Now do we want to start dissecting William Jefferson Clinton's racial remarks? How about starting with the one about Obama? The New York Post-- "Only days before he will nominate Barack Obama for re-election, a new report claims that in 2008, former President Bill Clinton said of him: “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” https://nypost.com/2012/09/03/bill-clint...a-in-2008/
05-21-2021, 05:52 PM
(05-21-2021, 05:25 PM)The Outsider Wrote:(05-21-2021, 04:26 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(05-21-2021, 12:59 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: It wouldn't matter if I , Outsider, CF, or vector listed a thousands transgressions. Indoctrination, whether political or religious , necessitates the setting aside of rational thought in favor of what one wishes would be or what gives one personal comfort. I'll take a shot at it anyway:
[b]1973: [/b]The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
[b]The 1980s: [/b]Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the Black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
[b]1989:[/b] In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
[b]1991: [/b]A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money is short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 [i]Playboy[/i] interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
[b]1992:[/b] The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
[b]1993:[/b] In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
[b]2000:[/b] In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
[b]2004: [/b]In season two of “The Apprentice,” Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
[b]2005:[/b] Trump publicly pitched what was essentially “The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People.” He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
[b]2010:[/b] In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On “The Late Show With David Letterman,” Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
[b]2011: [/b]Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
[b]2011:[/b] While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
2016-present: On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, VA, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “Kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “Kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
In summary, this man's history of racist talk and behavior goes back to the 70's when he was first sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for racial discrimination . Even friends and associates that have known him for decades admit that everyone knew Donald was this way. Like I said, none of this will matter followers of his cult.
First off can we at least agree that this was the very best that you could have done? At least you did manage to put something up, so you get an A for effort. Not a lot for establishing fact though. Thousands of examples you say? I see only two which are neither off base or otherwise non applicable. The rest are easily and arguably a stretch.
1991 - John O'Donnell's book. First point, I haven't read the book but I did not find where O'Donnell ever actually named any source claiming to be the person to whom Trump made those remarks. Secondly, I cannot find the Playboy interview in question to see what "stuff O'Donnell wrote" that Trump was saying was probably true. Third, O'Donnell is, wait for it... a flamming lib who's written and interviewed on liberal media in the negative vein against Trump for decades. Doesn't mean that in or of themselves, those facts constitute an ironclad defense for Trump. But let's face it. Liberal media especially CNN, & MSDNC, have been merciless in their pursuit of DJT's downfall. I would rather see the offended person/entity come forward, than to take the word of media with a dollar to make and an ax to grind. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
1992 - May well have happened. As owner Trump would have been liable, but liability and culpability can be miles apart and I don't see where anyone established that Trump was there at the time and very likely was not. Court cases are a dime a dozen where one runs over 500 businesses.
Now do we want to start dissecting William Jefferson Clinton's racial remarks? How about starting with the one about Obama? The New York Post-- "Only days before he will nominate Barack Obama for re-election, a new report claims that in 2008, former President Bill Clinton said of him: “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” https://nypost.com/2012/09/03/bill-clint...a-in-2008/
Comparing him to the Clintons is not a very high bar, but he doesn't come close to measuring up even to that standard...
So when it comes down to it you like the rest of Liberaldom, are more than willing to ignore the mountain of verified evidence in existence about Dem icons, while conversely you will accept any gossip about your political foes and DJT in particular as worthy of being etched in granite. I didn't put a question mark after because my statement was rhetorical.
Define Irony: Cardfan just stole another line from me in saying that we now live in bizarro world. It was all good as long as only Dems did it I guess.
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05-22-2021, 08:22 AM
^^^
@TheRealThing
I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
The fact you think you did is hilarious.
I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
@TheRealThing
I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
The fact you think you did is hilarious. I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
05-22-2021, 11:31 PM
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(05-22-2021, 08:22 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: ^^^
@TheRealThing
I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
Even with the advancements you may have made on Bill, you are still light years away from objectivity. My post had less than nothing to do with whataboutism. I said Bill and Hill were the premiere leading Dem icons up until 2016 and I stand by that. You were all about electing Hill and I'd bet the ranch you'd have voted to reelect her. You were on here defending the both of them
Thread: "He Gave Us a Phone-Romney Sucks"
The Real Thing Post #5 09-27-2012, 09:29 PM
"This is the final destination of your tax dollar. Obama says we must all give our fair share and rich folks must give much more than their fair share. Doesn't this just make you want to pony-up more of your money while your own family does without? Democrats insist patriotic Americans should be honored to pay more. It's Bizarro World."
I didn't invent the term, but I know for a fact I've been using it on here for a decade. Safe bet that's how you picked it up back before you were posting on your other account.
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05-23-2021, 10:57 AM
(05-22-2021, 11:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:Your whole argument is “Democrats you had Bill who are you to be talk about morals.” So it is whataboutism and it fails miserably because these are your standards. Like everything else DJT wrecked, he has imploded the Republican’s high ground like a failed casino.(05-22-2021, 08:22 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: ^^^
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I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
Even with the advancements you may have made on Bill, you are still light years away from objectivity. My post had less than nothing to do with whataboutism. I said Bill and Hill were the premiere leading Dem icons up until 2016 and I stand by that. You were all about electing Hill and I'd bet the ranch you'd have voted to reelect her. You were on here defending the both of them
Thread: "He Gave Us a Phone-Romney Sucks"
The Real Thing Post #5 09-27-2012, 09:29 PM
"This is the final destination of your tax dollar. Obama says we must all give our fair share and rich folks must give much more than their fair share. Doesn't this just make you want to pony-up more of your money while your own family does without? Democrats insist patriotic Americans should be honored to pay more. It's Bizarro World."
I didn't invent the term, but I know for a fact I've been using it on here for a decade. Safe bet that's how you picked it up back before you were posting on your other account.
I’d vote for anyone besides Donald Trump. This nation barely survived one term.
you are way too high on yourself. This is my one and only account. One of a kind.
05-24-2021, 09:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2021, 10:01 PM by TheRealThing.)
(05-23-2021, 10:57 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:(05-22-2021, 11:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:Your whole argument is “Democrats you had Bill who are you to be talk about morals.” So it is whataboutism and it fails miserably because these are your standards. Like everything else DJT wrecked, he has imploded the Republican’s high ground like a failed casino.(05-22-2021, 08:22 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: ^^^
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I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
Even with the advancements you may have made on Bill, you are still light years away from objectivity. My post had less than nothing to do with whataboutism. I said Bill and Hill were the premiere leading Dem icons up until 2016 and I stand by that. You were all about electing Hill and I'd bet the ranch you'd have voted to reelect her. You were on here defending the both of them
Thread: "He Gave Us a Phone-Romney Sucks"
The Real Thing Post #5 09-27-2012, 09:29 PM
"This is the final destination of your tax dollar. Obama says we must all give our fair share and rich folks must give much more than their fair share. Doesn't this just make you want to pony-up more of your money while your own family does without? Democrats insist patriotic Americans should be honored to pay more. It's Bizarro World."
I didn't invent the term, but I know for a fact I've been using it on here for a decade. Safe bet that's how you picked it up back before you were posting on your other account.
I’d vote for anyone besides Donald Trump. This nation barely survived one term.
This is my one and only account. One of a kind.
As I said when you type, you lie. My whole argument is a matter of record on here. But the POINT I made was as follows yet again. Supposedly your delicate sensitivities were just so offended because of Trump's unproven moral lapses that you just could not abide the man, which in your case is past laughable. Nonetheless when your Dem icon Billy boy was going down in the annals of historical infamy for his forays, some in the Oval Office no less, you continued on as a staunch defender until very recently.
You can't answer back on it because it's a bear trap of truth, so you do what you do. Lie, twist, sidestep, and hit the laugh icon
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05-24-2021, 10:40 PM
(05-24-2021, 09:59 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(05-23-2021, 10:57 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:(05-22-2021, 11:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:Your whole argument is “Democrats you had Bill who are you to be talk about morals.” So it is whataboutism and it fails miserably because these are your standards. Like everything else DJT wrecked, he has imploded the Republican’s high ground like a failed casino.(05-22-2021, 08:22 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: ^^^
@TheRealThing
I can’t speak for anybody else, but I’ve been done with Bill since 2008. Admitted not for the reasons I should have been and far later than I should have been. The more I’ve learned as a person I equate him with DJT; just a despicable person.
Whataboutism does not work. These are the right’s moral standards that are being applied. If you’re saying DJT is like Bill, the right should hate DJT.
You didn’t invent bizarro world.
I only copy two phrases: “wailing in the streets” from you and “LIAR” from Hooter. I snicker everyone I type them both.
Even with the advancements you may have made on Bill, you are still light years away from objectivity. My post had less than nothing to do with whataboutism. I said Bill and Hill were the premiere leading Dem icons up until 2016 and I stand by that. You were all about electing Hill and I'd bet the ranch you'd have voted to reelect her. You were on here defending the both of them
Thread: "He Gave Us a Phone-Romney Sucks"
The Real Thing Post #5 09-27-2012, 09:29 PM
"This is the final destination of your tax dollar. Obama says we must all give our fair share and rich folks must give much more than their fair share. Doesn't this just make you want to pony-up more of your money while your own family does without? Democrats insist patriotic Americans should be honored to pay more. It's Bizarro World."
I didn't invent the term, but I know for a fact I've been using it on here for a decade. Safe bet that's how you picked it up back before you were posting on your other account.
I’d vote for anyone besides Donald Trump. This nation barely survived one term.
This is my one and only account. One of a kind.
As I said when you type, you lie. My whole argument is a matter of record on here. But the POINT I made was as follows yet again. Supposedly your delicate sensitivities were just so offended because of Trump's unproven moral lapses that you just could not abide the man, which in your case is past laughable. Nonetheless when your Dem icon Billy boy was going down in the annals of historical infamy for his forays, some in the Oval Office no less, you continued on as a staunch defender until very recently.
You can't answer back on it because it's a bear trap of truth, so you do what you do. Lie, twist, sidestep, and hit the laugh icon
Can’t help it that you’ve lost your morality, TRT.
05-25-2021, 08:39 AM
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05-25-2021, 09:33 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/tr...cna1268429
"A criminal case generally falls into one of four categories. There are small cases brought against small targets (most of the thousands of criminal cases filed every day), big cases brought against small targets (think the Oklahoma City bombing), small cases brought against big targets (Martha Stewart's prosecution for lying about an insider trade that saved her about $50,000) and big cases brought against big targets (such as Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who was convicted of bribery in 2009 and sentenced to 13 years).
A former president of the United States is unquestionably a big target and therefore falls into either category three or four. But there are risks to both approaches."
I thought this article fit here, but even criminal charges won't break this cult. They will just believe it is the deep state, George Soros, illegal aliens, space aliens, or just anything that would explain that there is a conspiracy instead of the failed former president is actually a criminal.
"A criminal case generally falls into one of four categories. There are small cases brought against small targets (most of the thousands of criminal cases filed every day), big cases brought against small targets (think the Oklahoma City bombing), small cases brought against big targets (Martha Stewart's prosecution for lying about an insider trade that saved her about $50,000) and big cases brought against big targets (such as Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who was convicted of bribery in 2009 and sentenced to 13 years).
A former president of the United States is unquestionably a big target and therefore falls into either category three or four. But there are risks to both approaches."
I thought this article fit here, but even criminal charges won't break this cult. They will just believe it is the deep state, George Soros, illegal aliens, space aliens, or just anything that would explain that there is a conspiracy instead of the failed former president is actually a criminal.
05-25-2021, 09:34 AM
This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
05-25-2021, 09:42 AM
(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
Amen. apocalyptic visions. opponents as devils and traitors.
05-25-2021, 10:19 AM
(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
05-25-2021, 10:21 AM
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05-25-2021, 11:45 AM
(05-25-2021, 10:19 AM)jetpilot Wrote:Jet yes THEIR was a attempted coup(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
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05-25-2021, 11:47 AM
(05-25-2021, 10:19 AM)jetpilot Wrote:(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
Whether he is what you say he is or not does not change the fact that he is correct. You may need to open your eyes and expand your horizons a little.
05-25-2021, 12:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2021, 12:07 PM by TheRealThing.)
(05-25-2021, 10:19 AM)jetpilot Wrote:(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
He's worse than a far left wingnut Jet. IMO he's a certifiable America hater. "Fareed Rafiq Zakaria is an Indian-American journalist, political commentator, and author. He is the host of CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS and writes a weekly paid column for The Wa-shington Po-st."
In brief, Fareed like Cardfan, are willing to suffer whatever is deemed necessary in order to reinvent America in the Liberal/progressive pipe dream. Theirs is the stuff of despair and ruin and according to God's Word all the things they wish for will come to pass, climaxing in blaze of hate during the soon coming Tribulation. Hence the axiom, 'be careful what you wish for.'
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05-25-2021, 12:05 PM
(05-25-2021, 12:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:The people who still support Dear Leader are the most Anti American People since the civil war(05-25-2021, 10:19 AM)jetpilot Wrote:(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
He's worse than a far left wingnut Jet. IMO he's a certifiable America hater. "Fareed Rafiq Zakaria is an Indian-American journalist, political commentator, and author. He is the host of CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS and writes a weekly paid column for The Wa-shington Po-st."
In brief, Fareed like Cardfan, are willing to suffer whatever is deemed necessary in order to reinvent America in the Liberal/progressive pipe dream. Theirs is the stuff of despair and ruin and according to God's Word all the things they wish for will come to pass, climaxing in blase of hate during the soon coming Tribulation. Hence the axiom, 'be careful what you wish for.'
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05-25-2021, 12:51 PM
(05-25-2021, 10:19 AM)jetpilot Wrote:Fareed Zakaria is even more fake than most. He shares a habit with China Joe...he is a serial plagiarizer. That is a bad character flaw for a politician but it used to be a career killer for a journalist. When left wing purveyors of propaganda like Politico, Huffington Post, and Vanity Fair call out a liberal journalist for plagiarism on multiple occasions, it is a safe bet to look elsewhere for the truth.(05-25-2021, 09:34 AM)The Outsider Wrote: This is my biggest fear of the Trump Effect.No coup, Fareed Zakaria is a political hack who works for fake news company. Outsider just another brainwashed far-left wingnut.
"The continuing effort to throw sand in the eyes of history -- to gaslight the American people about what happened that day -- is a thundering alarm about the future of America's democracy," wrote Frida Ghitis. "When a country has just lived through a coup attempt, it should urgently, honestly, examine what occurred ... Trump and many of his backers maliciously insist the election was stolen. If they have their way, the next coup attempt may not fail."
This statement rings true of the Trump Zealots on here.
Fareed Zakaria observed that "the modern Republican Party has its roots in rebellion -- rebellion against the main currents of change in modern American society: the growth of the welfare state, the secularization of life and the increasing diversity of American society." Most Americans "don't agree with that protest," but GOP leaders are left "riding the back of a tiger and they can't get off" since leaders like Trump "whip up their followers into a froth of hysteria." The result, in Zakaria's view: the party becomes "a band of ideological warriors with apocalyptic vision that fears the ends of days, sees opponents as devils and traitors and believes that all methods are sanctioned in its battle to save civilization and itself."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/opinions/...index.html
Fareed Zakaria Accused Of Plagiarism... Again (UPDATE)
The wrongs of Fareed Zakaria
PARSING THE PLAGARISM OF FAREED ZAKARIA
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