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Which political MISTAKE was the worst

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OR FIRING JAMES COMEY ?


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Neither was a mistake. President Trump's mistake was in not firing Comey on his first day in office. Comey is a criminal who should be the target of a special investigator, not a good friend of one.
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Hoot Gibson you're such a hack. where did that picture go you had, something about you not supporting trump or Hillary? Worse than a Bengals fan.
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I support politicians when they take actions with which I agree and oppose then when I disagree with their actions. Trump is a bit of a carnival barker, but I agree with the actions he has taken with foreign policy and his actions that have improved the economic climate in this country. I consider Obama and Hillary to be criminal traitors whose actions I fundamentally opposed.

I will leave the partisan cheerleading to guys like you need and TheRealThing. I will continue to give my honest opinions about the actions and accomplishments of elected office holders and their appointees.
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Hoot Gibson you're such a hack. where did that picture go you had, something about you not supporting trump or Hillary? Worse than a Bengals fan.
And you actually have the nerve to call someone else a "hack"?


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I support politicians when they take actions with which I agree and oppose then when I disagree with their actions. Trump is a bit of a carnival barker, but I agree with the actions he has taken with foreign policy and his actions that have improved the economic climate in this country. I consider Obama and Hillary to be criminal traitors whose actions I fundamentally opposed.

I will leave the partisan cheerleading to guys like you need and TheRealThing. I will continue to give my honest opinions about the actions and accomplishments of elected office holders and their appointees.


What a load. 4real's in grafted politics left aside, his memory seems just fine. You did have a sig blasting Trump, and you started a number of threads blasting him for all manner of uncommitted sins. My favs are "The case against Trump" and "The election-my final decision" threads. I warned you back when you engaged in all that #NeverTrump stuff that it would be hard to live down. Instead of being at all gracious though, as is your penchant, you made it personal.

So, rather than admit that you were wrong about Trump and I was right. It has now come down to my being a supposed partisan cheerleader. Anybody is welcomed to take a little stroll through those old threads to verify the truth, and whether you've got the lock on it that you claim to.
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What a load. 4real's in grafted politics left aside, his memory seems just fine. You did have a sig blasting Trump, and you started a number of threads blasting him for all manner of uncommitted sins. My favs are "The case against Trump" and "The election-my final decision" threads. I warned you back when you engaged in all that #NeverTrump stuff that it would be hard to live down. Instead of being at all gracious though, as is your penchant, you made it personal.

So, rather than admit that you were wrong about Trump and I was right. It has now come down to my being a supposed partisan cheerleader. Anybody is welcomed to take a little stroll through those old threads to verify the truth, and whether you've got the lock on it that you claim to.
Likewise, I would encourage anybody who is interested in ferreting out the truth to examine your recent posts and comparing them with the posts in which I corrected your wildly misleading assertions. When I make factual mistakes, I correct them.

My opinion of Trump has not changed but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. No more, no less.

I agree with most of Trump's actions but his tweets and unfortunate habit of publicly attacking his own appointees is doing some heavy political damage to him, as well as the GOP. Otherwise, I strongly approve of his job performance so far. But I will never lie to support a politician, no matter how strongly I support them.
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Likewise, I would encourage anybody who is interested in ferreting out the truth to examine your recent posts and comparing them with the posts in which I corrected your wildly misleading assertions. When I make factual mistakes, I correct them.

My opinion of Trump has not changed but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. No more, no less.

I agree with most of Trump's actions but his tweets and unfortunate habit of publicly attacking his own appointees is doing some heavy political damage to him, as well as the GOP. Otherwise, I strongly approve of his job performance so far. But I will never lie to support a politician, no matter how strongly I support them.

Right. You’re incapable of uttering any sort of untruth. And and given that, you are then worthy to call other people liars (including the President) in the absence of any proof in substantiation whatever should any point of contention arise. Forget those pesky archives.
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^^ And you have corrected exactly nothing. On September the 7th, a Friday, David Asman and his cohost were discussing statements which DJT made in his West Virginia rally. Asman quoted the 104 thousand number from The Hill article I cited and you went off about, in favor of your own interpretation which you have labored to establish so desperately. The date of The Hill article in question BTW was also September 7. Further, I cited SourceWatch which you also shot down because that one did not help your cause either.

Like I said, you got vector as your back up and believe me, I’m fine with it. But you’re not about to push your delusions onto me.
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Right. You’re incapable of uttering any sort of untruth. And and given that, you are then worthy to call other people liars (including the President) in the absence of any proof in substantiation whatever should any point of contention arise. Forget those pesky archives.
Those pesky archives include my warnings that Trump's sleazy friends such as Paul Manafort and Roger Stone were political liabilities.

Nobody bats 100 percent when they predict the future, but missing a few predictions is not quite the same as making up statistics and then refusing to own up to your actions when confronted with the truth now, is it? Character counts.
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^^ And you have corrected exactly nothing. On September the 7th, a Friday, David Asman and his cohost were discussing statements which DJT made in his West Virginia rally. Asman quoted the 104 thousand number from The Hill article I cited and you went off about, in favor of your own interpretation which you have labored to establish so desperately. The date of The Hill article in question BTW was also September 7. Further, I cited SourceWatch which you also shot down because that one did not help your cause either.

Like I said, you got vector as your back up and believe me, I’m fine with it. But you’re not about to push your delusions onto me.
Repeating a lie ad nauseum will not transform it into the truth. Absolutely nobody claimed that 104,000 coal mining jobs have been created since Oct. 2016. Nobody that is, except for you. The Hill clearly and correctly reported that 104,000 mining jobs have been created during that period. Coal mining jobs are but a fraction of all mining jobs in this country.

My backup is The Hill article and the source from which their article reported, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, and truth.

All vector did was to point out your "mistake."
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Repeating a lie ad nauseum will not transform it into the truth. Absolutely nobody claimed that 104,000 coal mining jobs have been created since Oct. 2016. Nobody that is, except for you. The Hill clearly and correctly reported that 104,000 mining jobs have been created during that period. Coal mining jobs are but a fraction of all mining jobs in this country.

My backup is The Hill article and the source from which their article reported, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, and truth.

All vector did was to point out your "mistake."


Donald J Trump spoke only of coal jobs as he addressed the good folks of West Virginia. Asman was speaking of coal mining jobs when he cited The Hill article, which also spoke of coal jobs. The subsequent article cited by SourceWatch defined all of the 174 thousand listed as being coal jobs. Transportation jobs, some jobs associated with coal fired electricity generating stations AND the actual mining jobs came to a total of 174 thousand. I pointed that out for two reasons. First was your ridiculous claim of 50 thousand total jobs, plus your intentional deception in which you insist on limiting coal mining jobs to the miners only. Then Gut came on and further clarified other jobs, but not all, which are also associated with coal mining.

Don't try to hide behind vector, all he did was post a link. The ensuing narrowing and redefinitions on your part, were meant to slake your own long standing obsessions. As I said your distortions notwithstanding, might cut some ice with the likes of Motley and vector, not me. At any rate your initial effort was to attack valid sourcing. As you then proceeded to suggest The Hill didn't know what they were talking about and further, SourceWatch didn't understand what coal mining jobs were either. I will stick with Asman and The Hill. You go ahead and change reality to your liking.

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