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I support Senator Warner in his decision to vote for confirmation. Ms. Haspel’s thirty-three year career of devotion and accomplishment merit her being confirmed. The aftermath of 9/11 (in my opinion) led our intelligence-gathering agencies to some dark places ill-befitting a “city on a hill” republic, but Ms. Haspel is not responsible for that.
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^^ Dark places huh? Not that I agree with you at all about that, but if the places were dark, Democrats were among those leading us.

"With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan)."

Hypocrites and liars in 'high places.'
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^^ Dark places huh? Not that I agree with you at all about that, but if the places were dark, Democrats were among those leading us.

"With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan)."

Hypocrites and liars in 'high places.'
In the aftermath of 9/11, what you say above? 100% correct. Except not sure “hypocrites” and “liars” are as descriptively valid as “politicians” (who have to get more votes than an opponent every two to four to six years).
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In the aftermath of 9/11, what you say above? 100% correct. Except not sure “hypocrites” and “liars” are as descriptively valid as “politicians” (who have to get more votes than an opponent every two to four to six years).
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To tell a lie to avoid trouble is common lying. To “do a little sidestep and lead the people on”? That’s politics.
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It's still lying, no matter what term you use to describe it.

A rose is still a rose..........
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It's still lying, no matter what term you use to describe it.

A rose is still a rose..........
Pears belong to the rose family, but they “ain’t” the same.
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I've already laid out my case about Democrats flip-flopping and then having the nerve to blame Republicans. Democrats were so all-in on slavery that we had to fight a civil war to get black folks free. But thanks to a very effective revisionist propaganda campaign being waged by Dems since the days of Abraham Lincoln, people looking for racist validation/justification and those who're just plain willfully superficial among us, believe the Republicans are the guilty ones. EG, Maxine Waters and the rest of the CBC.

Democrats campaigned for, voted for, and later when it became politically expedient and in the sincerest of absurdities, denied their very active endorsement of the Iraq Resolution and then blamed Republicans for tricking them. Not that they don't act as if they're all dumb enough to be tricked.

In the Gina Haspel confirmation, we saw Dems acting like they didn't have one thing to do with waterboarding. That... is a bald faced lie as I just proved. But if politics were as you say, legalized deception or otherwise just a matter of acceptable lying, the US would not have such a glorious record to look back on. (That does however, explain the entirety of the Obama administration.) It takes honorable people of fiber to win 2 world wars and all kinds of lesser wars. But I digress. The whole deal of fierce resistance of the Gina Haspel nomination is part of the organized and traitorous resistance against this duly elected President. When Republicans win again this November, Democrats will stage mass suicides up and down Pennsylvania Avenue.
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⬆️ When did US enter WWII? NOT on reports of possible atrocities against Jews (and others), but only after Pearl Harbor. The “higher virtue” in days gone by does not apply to politicians, who have always needed more votes than an opponent.
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Ridiculous!!!
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Ridiculous!!!
Ah, but true.
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Ah, but true.


So you’re admitting to being ridiculous?
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⬆️ When did US enter WWII? NOT on reports of possible atrocities against Jews (and others), but only after Pearl Harbor. The “higher virtue” in days gone by does not apply to politicians, who have always needed more votes than an opponent.


The US did not enter WW2 as early as we should because weasels, bozos and other liberals in government, were all similarly afflicted with fear and terminal simple-itis. FDR wanted us in but liberal pacifists would not allow it. They cow towed to the Axis powers exactly like Obama did with Iran. Doesn’t change the sacrifice of countless soldiers or the incredible brilliance of the commanders who led them. And certainly that doesn’t change the fact that the countries of the world owe America a great debt.

Too bad you missed those prewar days when the cowards enjoyed their short reign. But not to despair, Hitler was nothing compared to the coming ultimate globalist in the person of Antichrist.
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To tell a lie to avoid trouble is common lying. To “do a little sidestep and lead the people on”? That’s politics.
What a stupid statement.
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To tell a lie to avoid trouble is common lying. To “do a little sidestep and lead the people on”? That’s politics.
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What a stupid statement.


Stupid, but explains a lot. Like actively rooting for Trump's demise for example. Or rooting for the Kim summit to collapse. Think of it. These bozos would rather have a maniac with hydrogen bombs pointed at their heads, if disarmament meant Trump would have a major foreign policy success.

I wish I could go ahead and register my 2020 vote for Trump right now, I mean, what could it hurt? Obviously these guys couldn't care less about laws or honesty. In my view the Lord has given us the government of late that we have asked for. Incredibly while screaming about fictional racial bias, minorities demand rights, gifts, and privilege based on what singular qualifier? Race. No taxation without representation, 2018 is the time for the voter to finally make a statement that the left cannot deny.
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Pears belong to the rose family, but they “ain’t” the same.
This is hysterical. Let's all discuss the "***" family, shall we?

There is the donkey
There is the dairy-aire
There is TUS


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