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Cancel their history
Cancel their heritage
Cancel their institutions
Cancel their statues
Cancel their religious freedoms
Cancel their gun rights
Cancel their freedom of speech
Cancel their opinions
Cancel their money

Wait, check that last one, we need them to be taxed to death and need them to continue to buy insanely overpriced college tuition, sports tickets, cable, movie tickets, concerts, and a zillion other things liberals have hijacked...

But cancel all the rest and tell them to shut up...
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^^ Each of the categories on your list deserves a dedicated post, but take the cancel money item.

This idea of getting free money is a mutually exclusive myth. Money loses it's worth if one can get it for nothing.

According to history, men first began to barter things they had for other things or services, such as they were at the time. Then came along King Nebuchadnezzar as I have mentioned, and he instituted what I would call the world system. Organized medical care, education, law and law enforcement, governance, finance (and money), a professional military. And consequently the industrial complex/complexes which have followed down through the ages. But with the particular issue of law enforcement-- if and when we ever truly give up on law enforcement, we can certainly kiss any expectation of coming home at night to an un-violated or un-looted or otherwise un-upended house and family goodbye. "You take the cops out of some of these neighborhoods, and it would be like the wild, wild west."--- Charles Barkley

But what is money... really? The US went off the gold standard back in 1971 so what makes money have value? Money is an idea, the original idea of King Nebuchadnezzar. Men work, and through that work they gain abilities which makes themselves of value to their peers. And so with those abilities they are able to provide goods or services for which they get paid and thusly establish the financial foundation for their households. When you take away the above mentioned value, not only does one remove the secular basis of a sense of self worth, you remove the foundation on which the idea of money is based.

And we've been passing milestones on our way to total devaluation of our currency since we enacted the Great Society Initiative. We 'bought' for lack of a better way to describe it, the woes and slings of those who will not work. So what kind of people will not work? It's hard to say exactly, but I pass them on street corners every time I go out. I see people with signs, in some cases veterans of the US Military supposedly, who claim to choose to stand on a street corner rather than go to one of the many agencies who're open at least 5 days a week in every city. Agencies which stand at the ready to give these folks a roof over their head, clothing, phones, utilities, food, and medical care and you name it. Are we supposed to help people like this? Yes. But are these people victims of any particular disservice or lapse of kindness by their countrymen? Not in the least.

It's not for lack of education or anything else one could name to include the guarantees of equal opportunity under the provisions of the US Constitution. The Lord said "You will always have the poor." But this idea that the poor are made so by a society that passed them by is ludicrous. Looking for somebody else to blame for that which some folks are not willing to do is the misbegotten notion of the left. Well, one of them at least.

From 'Occupy Main Street,' to the establishment of sanctuary cites, to the seizure of public property to set up autonomous 'zones.' The things which give life meaning are under attack in this nation. And as we have recently seen, it only takes a few nights for legions of non-working looters (who BTW are orchestrated and directed by virtue of instructions they receive on their tax payer donated cell phones), to wipe out normalcy.

So again I would ask the broad audience intended question, how's that 'fundamental transformation' working for ya? And as a follow up, after such a brief 4 year respite are we really poised to vote in the madness again this fall?
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Money loses it's worth if one can get it for nothing.

One of the most impactful statements I've ever read.
And I read A LOT!!!
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Originally Posted by jetpilot View Post
Cancel their history
Cancel their heritage
Cancel their institutions
Cancel their statues
Cancel their religious freedoms
Cancel their gun rights
Cancel their freedom of speech
Cancel their opinions
Cancel their money

Wait, check that last one, we need them to be taxed to death and need them to continue to buy insanely overpriced college tuition, sports tickets, cable, movie tickets, concerts, and a zillion other things liberals have hijacked...

But cancel all the rest and tell them to shut up...


I'm just picking one topic out of this snowflake post.

Statues?

Honestly, how torn up should we be that monuments honoring traitors to the United States of America are being torn down? (That's ignoring they fought for slavery and the bevy of other problems surrounding their existence)
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I'm just picking one topic out of this snowflake post.

Statues?

Honestly, how torn up should we be that monuments honoring traitors to the United States of America are being torn down? (That's ignoring they fought for slavery and the bevy of other problems surrounding their existence)
Tell me how Lincoln and Grant were traitors. Confederate soldiers were not traitors. The overwhelming majority of people fighting for the South were not slave owners and fought because their families and neighbors were under attack.

These people who are making cowardly attacks on statues are no better than the Taliban and show the same historical illiteracy. Their real enemy is a dysfunctional public school system that has produced an unprecedented level of ignorance in this country. Diplomas for dullards.

Do you favor the destruction of Mount Rushmore? Do you support the cause of those who want to destroy statues of Jesus that in their opinion, make him look like a European white man?

Where do you think the line should be drawn against BLM violence?
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Money loses it's worth if one can get it for nothing.

One of the most impactful statements I've ever read.
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Tell me how Lincoln and Grant were traitors. Confederate soldiers were not traitors. The overwhelming majority of people fighting for the South were not slave owners and fought because their families and neighbors were under attack.

These people who are making cowardly attacks on statues are no better than the Taliban and show the same historical illiteracy. Their real enemy is a dysfunctional public school system that has produced an unprecedented level of ignorance in this country. Diplomas for dullards.

Do you favor the destruction of Mount Rushmore? Do you support the cause of those who want to destroy statues of Jesus that in their opinion, make him look like a European white man?

Where do you think the line should be drawn against BLM violence?


Oh I guarantee ol Cardfan's true liberal horns will be out for the foreseeable future. All pretense of the milk of human kindness oozing from every pore and affability will take a recess. That is until 'the resistance' is put down.
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Black men were afforded the right to vote years before women were; black or white.
That offends me.

I think I'll burn down TRT's house. THAT should help!!!
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Tell me how Lincoln and Grant were traitors. Confederate soldiers were not traitors. The overwhelming majority of people fighting for the South were not slave owners and fought because their families and neighbors were under attack.

These people who are making cowardly attacks on statues are no better than the Taliban and show the same historical illiteracy. Their real enemy is a dysfunctional public school system that has produced an unprecedented level of ignorance in this country. Diplomas for dullards.

Do you favor the destruction of Mount Rushmore? Do you support the cause of those who want to destroy statues of Jesus that in their opinion, make him look like a European white man?

Where do you think the line should be drawn against BLM violence?
Confederate soldiers were traitors to the United States of the America. They seceded from the Union and drew arms. You're delusional to even suggest they weren't.
****, you are implying these BLM protesters are traitors, and they are exercising a Constitutional right at worst a destruction of public property who knew outright war would is more acceptable!!

There are statues that have some from problems. One with Lincoln and a slave at his feet...needs to go. The one with Teddy Roosevelt on horse with a slave and a Native American where it appears he has dominion over those two...needs to go. Those statues do not represent the legacy of those men, but they do represent a racist undertone in this nation.

I'm glad you brought up the education system and the whitewashing of American history. We celebrate and/or ignore a lot of bad people in this nation. Judging by your opinions on here, I'm pretty certain you missed some important facts. Not your fault, we all did, but it is up to us to advance our knowledge instead of wallow in ignorance.

No, I don't favor the destruction of Mt. Rushmore although it has problems, and I could see why some Americans feel that way.

Anybody who tries to destroy a church's property is wrong. But you did provide a great example of the implicit racism in this country (the greatest man who ever lived couldn't be anything but a white man).
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Black men were afforded the right to vote years before women were; black or white.
That offends me.

I think I'll burn down TRT's house. THAT should help!!!


LOL, and that's the whole point. People know absolutely nada about the history of this world or our American Heritage. AFTR, America did not come into being, nor has she existed in any kind of vacuum since her inception. We resisted those things that we disagreed with, but only in the face of fierce opposition by those within our society who despised the idea of the American experiment. They thought it was heresy not to bow to a king, and insisted we should conform to the world order which at the time featured a line of royal monarchies. England, France, Spain, the Netherlands, all of Europe was ruled by Kings and the notion of a people ruling themselves was unacceptable to them.

In a twist of sick irony, it is largely today's completely ignorant university students who out of ignorance and indoctrination, are out committing anarchy. The educated among us have become the 'useful idiots' of our day. To wit, 500 buildings were burned in the Minneapolis/St Paul metro area alone. And their city leaders have voted to disband the police department. The short of it is this, only a precious few know their history. The rest, from the minorities up to and including sitting US Congressmen and women, operate largely in a literacy vacuum. Instead of espousing our noble heritage these folks instead, have adopted or have otherwise been co-opted into the liberal fold. Which of course is a return to very same philosophical aberration the founders sacrificed so much in order to lift the inhabitants of this blessed land out of.

They know not what they do. But then when back at mid 20th Century America turned her back on God, we were doomed to this day of confusion as surely as we're sitting here talking about this. There is only one true way to wake up for the 'woke' crowd. And that is to bow before the living God. Anything short of that will see this great ship of state and her people, down history's drain.


This text follows the quote I put up above; on the value of a thing---

“Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated… lay your shoulders to the wheel…Let it be told to the future world, that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive, that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet and repel it.” ---Thomas Paine

Well, we didn't tell the "future world." In fact we went to sleep as the interlopers were invading our universities and stealing the hearts of our youth. Those youth who now do their destructive bidding. The Church failed, and our culture has failed. Everything has a price they say. This is the ultimate realization of the cost of our foolish proclamation of the Separation of Church and State. If the founders could have been surprised they'd be turning in their graves. But the warnings issued by Benjamin Franklin and others reveal that even as they set this land in motion, they feared this very outcome.
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Confederate soldiers were traitors to the United States of the America. They seceded from the Union and drew arms. You're delusional to even suggest they weren't.
****, you are implying these BLM protesters are traitors, and they are exercising a Constitutional right at worst a destruction of public property who knew outright war would is more acceptable!!

There are statues that have some from problems. One with Lincoln and a slave at his feet...needs to go. The one with Teddy Roosevelt on horse with a slave and a Native American where it appears he has dominion over those two...needs to go. Those statues do not represent the legacy of those men, but they do represent a racist undertone in this nation.

I'm glad you brought up the education system and the whitewashing of American history. We celebrate and/or ignore a lot of bad people in this nation. Judging by your opinions on here, I'm pretty certain you missed some important facts. Not your fault, we all did, but it is up to us to advance our knowledge instead of wallow in ignorance.

No, I don't favor the destruction of Mt. Rushmore although it has problems, and I could see why some Americans feel that way.

Anybody who tries to destroy a church's property is wrong. But you did provide a great example of the implicit racism in this country (the greatest man who ever lived couldn't be anything but a white man).
When you start down the road of allowing roving mobs to begin destroying the history of a nation by toppling statues, things do not generally end well for any of the nation's citizens.

The southern states seceded from a country that they voluntarily joined. Nothing in the U.S. Constitution barred states from seceding, just as nothing compelled them to take up arms against the Soldiers from their own states. Civil wars are fought between citizens of the same nation, not between citizens and traitors. There are heroes and villains in every war and generally neither side has a monopoly on either.

I think that you have confused me with someone else. I have never called the rioters, looters, and arsonists who march with or in the vicinity of BLM traitors. They are nothing more than common thugs who have no respect for the law. They deserve jail time, but treason charges are not warranted.

Lincoln and the Republicans waged war against the southern states to preserve the union, not to end slavery. Lincoln was open to compromise on the issue of slavery until the southern states seceded. Few of the people who joined the Confederate Army when the Civil War broke out did so to save the institution of slavery because Lincoln had never stated that to be among his objectives until late 1863.

Try reading some history, before your comrades start burning down our libraries.
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Confederate soldiers were traitors to the United States of the America. They seceded from the Union and drew arms. You're delusional to even suggest they weren't.
****, you are implying these BLM protesters are traitors, and they are exercising a Constitutional right at worst a destruction of public property who knew outright war would is more acceptable!!

There are statues that have some from problems. One with Lincoln and a slave at his feet...needs to go. The one with Teddy Roosevelt on horse with a slave and a Native American where it appears he has dominion over those two...needs to go. Those statues do not represent the legacy of those men, but they do represent a racist undertone in this nation.

I'm glad you brought up the education system and the whitewashing of American history. We celebrate and/or ignore a lot of bad people in this nation. Judging by your opinions on here, I'm pretty certain you missed some important facts. Not your fault, we all did, but it is up to us to advance our knowledge instead of wallow in ignorance.


No, I don't favor the destruction of Mt. Rushmore although it has problems, and I could see why some Americans feel that way.

Anybody who tries to destroy a church's property is wrong. But you did provide a great example of the implicit racism in this country (the greatest man who ever lived couldn't be anything but a white man).


Whew. So let me understand this. You're saying that it is up to us to advance our knowledge huh?

We did that with the historical statues those of this nation erected but that anarchists have now torn down, that and what remains at least, of the historical record that is as yet un-revised. Again, I'm talking about the actual historical record, not the revised one on which you guys like to hang your hat and treat as a living document, open to constant change like it was a Wikipedia page. You have an affinity for the laugh icon, as if you've always got the high ground. You just don't seem to be able to recognize when you contradict yourself, many times in the same paragraph but sometimes in the same sentence.

If you'd care to learn from history, England was the main progenitor of slavery on the planet in Colonial days, and a great many loyal Englishmen lived and worked and owned slaves in the New World. It was America led the way to world enlightenment as to the brutality and immorality of slavery. And we led in making things right. After the American Revolution MANY of those Englishmen stayed on in the United States with their highly prized slaves. While William Wilberforce led the fight in the English Parliament, Abraham Lincoln and other Republicans led the cause for the emancipation in America and paid a tremendous price for having done so. Nonetheless over time the immorality of race judging became commonly accepted and resulted in the American people rejecting the practice.

But your side has somehow successfully resuscitated the once rotting corpse of racism after it had been long dead; (and after Congressional Dems made a historical spectacle of themselves resisting the emancipation of the slaves in the first place). I believe there will be a high cost to pay for that as well.

History has been whitewashed by your ilk and frankly, at least I can say my major was history. You'll find it a hard chore to expect all that smoke your blowing would indoctrinate those of us who know better. Suffice it to say you are completely clueless to think the US Constitution had the first thing to do with the liberalism and social handouts you preach about on here. And now you want to wipe away any and all remaining evidence of the truth (it's so inconvenient to the liberal palate) so you can just make up stuff as you go from here on out. Shocker.
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Confederate soldiers were traitors to the United States of the America. They seceded from the Union and drew arms. You're delusional to even suggest they weren't.
****, you are implying these BLM protesters are traitors, and they are exercising a Constitutional right at worst a destruction of public property who knew outright war would is more acceptable!!

There are statues that have some from problems. One with Lincoln and a slave at his feet...needs to go. The one with Teddy Roosevelt on horse with a slave and a Native American where it appears he has dominion over those two...needs to go. Those statues do not represent the legacy of those men, but they do represent a racist undertone in this nation.

I'm glad you brought up the education system and the whitewashing of American history. We celebrate and/or ignore a lot of bad people in this nation. Judging by your opinions on here, I'm pretty certain you missed some important facts. Not your fault, we all did, but it is up to us to advance our knowledge instead of wallow in ignorance.

No, I don't favor the destruction of Mt. Rushmore although it has problems, and I could see why some Americans feel that way.

Anybody who tries to destroy a church's property is wrong. But you did provide a great example of the implicit racism in this country (the greatest man who ever lived couldn't be anything but a white man).
I'm pretty sure than nobody on this board provided an example of Jesus being white.
His mother was Jewish and who knows God's race? I like to think he is either NO race or ALL races.
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I'm pretty sure than nobody on this board provided an example of Jesus being white.
His mother was Jewish and who knows God's race? I like to think he is either NO race or ALL races.


You are sooo right. And in the spirit of 'advancing knowledge' lol, to that end I would offer this--- As you say, racially, man was made in God's own image, one race. I believe when the Lord originally separated the 'one race' of people by confounding their language at the tower of Babel, that led to their taking on the physical characteristics we now associate with the racial groups. Asian, Hispanic, Arabic, Black, White, etc.. Those physical characteristics such as skin/hair color and eye color, happened as the result of being separated from the one race gene pool.

Isn't it interesting that while the left is intent on destroying the fabric of this land. Endlessly revising history and real-time events to suit their agenda driven manias, and spewing divisive and caustic racial rhetoric, and burning down towns, and destroying commerce and the lives of their decent law abiding neighbors; That it has been ONLY Donald J Trump who has consistently delivered the message that we Americans are one people. United in spirit and our own national heritage to form a more perfect union consisting of people who appreciate and respect each other as equals? Further, only a mental midget would deny the President's record of even handedness of governance across the board minority-wise, gender-wise and even gender-blender-wise. His only qualifier has been to limit his efforts to legal citizens of this land. And for that he has been mercilessly attacked by the globalist left.

May God help us. It is my prayer that the majority of folks here in this nation will overcome the tsunami of lies being spread by the media and the political left about our country, and the people will rise up and re-elect President Trump.
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