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I can't see that happening. I think that Estill and Powell will be in Fleming's district.
I can see this actually because if Bath County and West Carter are for sure not in then Mason County and East Cater will for sure be. Thatís geographically as solid as any on here. Nearly all border the other. The AA Highway district.
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Harlan County isn’t moving according to the article
Thing is we don't know who is going to move because schools have not been asked to submit anything yet about playing up. The article was "potentially" I would be shocked if they stayed in 5A though no good reason for them not to drop. JMO I don't know or would not even pretend to know what they will do.
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Originally Posted by AnswertheBell View Post
When was the last State Champion in Lexington? I would think FD would stay this round. Several reason to stay. Some pressure to stay.
No thereís some sort of rule that prevents them from being 4A. Donít know the exact rule.
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Originally Posted by Strikeout King View Post
I can't see that happening. I think that Estill and Powell will be in Fleming's district.
I was just giving my opinion based on travel situations and what made sense. Very possible that situation would never happen. Where to put Estill and Powell wasnít the hardest decision, because they can actually go several different places and be ok with distance. Hard part is finding where to put people that are so far away from everyone. I thought i did a decent job at that. In the end People getting paid will make the final decisions that make more sense...
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Originally Posted by 33 power View Post
Thing is we don't know who is going to move because schools have not been asked to submit anything yet about playing up. The article was "potentially" I would be shocked if they stayed in 5A though no good reason for them not to drop. JMO I don't know or would not even pretend to know what they will do.
Harlan County has 5A numbers, that is the good reason they stay. The are not on the list as to move down. According to that they will have to stay 5A.
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No thereís some sort of rule that prevents them from being 4A. Donít know the exact rule.
Really? I hadnít heard of it. Didnít Jefferson County have some sort of a rule like that at one time?
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Originally Posted by 33 power View Post
Thing is we don't know who is going to move because schools have not been asked to submit anything yet about playing up. The article was "potentially" I would be shocked if they stayed in 5A though no good reason for them not to drop. JMO I don't know or would not even pretend to know what they will do.
Depending on their numbers but it’s looking like they are staying.
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I think every school should play where they are placed. Travel is what it is. Football plays on Friday night and unlike other sports, kids do not go to school the next day. Playing up and thus having teams volunteer to move down would be eliminated. Only talking about 4-5 games a season travel wise.
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Originally Posted by goBIGblue82 View Post
Potential 3A Districts. District numbering may be different, I just went with pairings.

1- Webster Co, fort Campbell, Union Co, Paducah, Trigg Co

2- CAL, Desales, Central, Henry Co

3- Bardstown, Thomas Nelson, Nelson Co, Etown, Larue Co

4- Adair, Taylor, Casey, Glasgow, Hart Co

5- Boyle, Garrard, Mercer, Western Hills, Estill, Powell

6- Bell Co, Jackson Co, McCreary, Wayne Co

7- Mason Co, Fleming Co, Lewis co, Pendleton Co, Russell, East Carter

8- Belfry, Pike Central, Floyd Central, Lawrence Co, Magoffin Co, Morgan Co
Since Henry and Franklin border and to balance the sides move Western Hills to D2. Geographically solid. Other than that looks good as it can.
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Originally Posted by AnswertheBell View Post
Harlan County has 5A numbers, that is the good reason they stay. The are not on the list as to move down. According to that they will have to stay 5A.
Harlan County would be the 8th largest 4A school according to the list of schools ranked by 4 year male enrollment numbers.
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Class 2A
District 1 – Ballard Memorial, Mayfield, Murray, Caldwell County
District 2 – Butler County, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Todd County Central
District 3 – Clinton County, Green County, Metcalfe County, Monroe County, Edmonson County
District 4 – Danville, LCA, Somerset, Washington County
District 5 – Carroll County, Gallatin County, Owen County, Walton-Verona, Shawnee
District 6 –Holy Cross (Covington), Lloyd Memorial, Beechwood, Bracken County,
District 7 – Prestonsburg, Betsy Layne, Sheldon Clark, Bath County, West Carter
District 8 – Middlesboro, East Ridge, Leslie County, Shelby Valley, Knott Central, Breathitt County
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Originally Posted by WILDCAT NATION View Post
Since Henry and Franklin border and to balance the sides move Western Hills to D2. Geographically solid. Other than that looks good as it can.
Good call, that was an oversight on my part. I had looked at scenarios at pulling someone else in that district and couldnít find one that made a lot of sense to me. But, thatís the right fit.
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With all due respect to NCC. I am a little saddened by Beechwood leaving 1A. It closes a chapter on Pikeville vs Beechwood...Hopefully we can meet in Lexington one last time...
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Potential 4A, I understand some of these teams may request to play up and some 3A teams may request to play up in 4A. Just going off of possible new additions based on what was released. District 3 5th place would play as 4th place in district 1.

1- Calloway co, Hopkins co, Madisonville-North Hopkins

2- Allen Co, Franklin Simpson, Warren Central, Warren East

3-Breckinridge, John Hardin, Valley, Western, Waggener

4- Franklin Co, Shelby Co, Spencer Co, North Oldham

5- East Jessamine, Marion Co, Russell Co, Rockcastle, Lex Cath, Frederick Douglass (don’t think they will Be 4A)

6-Clay Co, Corbin, Knox Central, Perry Central, Letcher Central

7-Bourbon Co, Harrison Co, Holmes, Scott

8-Ashland, Boyd Co, Greenup, Rowan

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Really? I hadnít heard of it. Didnít Jefferson County have some sort of a rule like that at one time?
I think it has to do with some all boys academy inside of the school? Iíll try to find more details
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Originally Posted by WILDCAT NATION View Post
Since Henry and Franklin border and to balance the sides move Western Hills to D2. Geographically solid. Other than that looks good as it can.
And I think you'd see Glasgow, Adair, Hart, Taylor be district 2.

Making the E-town, LaRue, Bardstown, Nelson and Thomas Nelson in a region with the Murderer's row district of Central, DeSales, Cal along with Henry and an added Western Hills.

If I'm Paducah Tilghman; I'm petitioning to move to 4A.

4A D1 with Logan and Hoptown both moving up is just a 3 team district with Calloway, Madisonville & Hopkins Central. Tilghman geographically and to make a 4 team district would make sense. Their route to a state final would also be more viable.

If I'm PT; I'm writing in to go 4A right now if they haven't already submitted it.

3A West is a gauntlet as is & it just became even more of one with CAL & DeSales coming to the park to play.
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Potential 4A, I understand some of these teams may request to play up and some 3A teams may request to play up in 4A. Just going off of possible new additions based on what was released. District 3 5th place would play as 4th place in district 1.

1- Calloway co, Hopkins co, Madisonville-North Hopkins

2- Allen Co, Franklin Simpson, Warren Central, Warren East

3-Breckinridge, John Hardin, Valley, Western, Waggener

4- Franklin Co, Shelby Co, Spencer Co, North Oldham

5- East Jessamine, Marion Co, Russell Co, Rockcastle, Lex Cath, Frederick Douglass (don’t think they will Be 4A)

6-Clay Co, Corbin, Knox Central, Perry Central, Letcher Central

7-Bourbon Co, Harrison Co, Holmes, Scott

8-Ashland, Boyd Co, Greenup, Rowan
I don't think anybody in 4A is going to request to play up. Highlands isn't going to want to battle CovCath if they don't have to. I didn't see them in your alignment, probably just oversight, but go ahead and obviously thrown them into D7.

As I said in the other post; PT needs to petition to go 4A right now
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Originally Posted by WILDCAT NATION View Post
Class 2A
District 1 Ė Ballard Memorial, Mayfield, Murray, Caldwell County
District 2 Ė Butler County, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Todd County Central
District 3 Ė Clinton County, Green County, Metcalfe County, Monroe County, Edmonson County
District 4 Ė Danville, LCA, Somerset, Washington County
District 5 Ė Carroll County, Gallatin County, Owen County, Walton-Verona, Shawnee
District 6 ĖHoly Cross (Covington), Lloyd Memorial, Beechwood, Bracken County,
District 7 Ė Prestonsburg, Betsy Layne, Sheldon Clark, Bath County, West Carter
District 8 Ė Middlesboro, East Ridge, Leslie County, Shelby Valley, Knott Central, Breathitt County
Anybody want to pick 5 teams to represent the new 2A in the finals and/or the state champs in that class for the 19-22 years and give everybody else the field?

I will:

Mayfield
O'Cath
Danville
LCA
Beechwood
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Originally Posted by Fly Like a Duck View Post
I don't think anybody in 4A is going to request to play up. Highlands isn't going to want to battle CovCath if they don't have to. I didn't see them in your alignment, probably just oversight, but go ahead and obviously thrown them into D7.

As I said in the other post; PT needs to petition to go 4A right now
Oversight on my part. My 4A was half effort compared to 3A. Iíve already noticed a couple changes I would make.
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Originally Posted by goBIGblue82 View Post
Potential 3A Districts. District numbering may be different, I just went with pairings.

1- Webster Co, fort Campbell, Union Co, Paducah, Trigg Co

2- CAL, Desales, Central, Henry Co

3- Bardstown, Thomas Nelson, Nelson Co, Etown, Larue Co

4- Adair, Taylor, Casey, Glasgow, Hart Co

5- Boyle, Garrard, Mercer, Western Hills, Estill, Powell

6- Bell Co, Jackson Co, McCreary, Wayne Co

7- Mason Co, Fleming Co, Lewis co, Pendleton Co, Russell, East Carter

8- Belfry, Pike Central, Floyd Central, Lawrence Co, Magoffin Co, Morgan Co
Meant to say that I have it on pretty good authority that there has been some oversight in 3A on the KHSAA part:

1) Fort Campbell is in 2A ( I think they noted that, but a typo here).

2) Wayne County to stay 4A

3) Greenup to 3A


The 101st being 2A doesn't effect 3A-D1; still 4 teams. Now if PT petitions to go 4 & they get it; then that clouds things potentially.

Wayne County going 4A could and would probably take Casey from D4 and move them back to the company they are with right now as is in D6. That would still make D4 and D6 four team districts.

Greenup going 3A would make things interesting. Where do you put somebody from D7 and D8 unless one of them offered to move up to 4A; which could be a possibility.
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Oversight on my part. My 4A was half effort compared to 3A. Iíve already noticed a couple changes I would make.
No worries! You've done more than I have. Eyes get blurry looking at this stuff after a while. haha
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Originally Posted by Fly Like a Duck View Post
Meant to say that I have it on pretty good authority that there has been some oversight in 3A on the KHSAA part:

1) Fort Campbell is in 2A ( I think they noted that, but a typo here).

2) Wayne County to stay 4A

3) Greenup to 3A


The 101st being 2A doesn't effect 3A-D1; still 4 teams. Now if PT petitions to go 4 & they get it; then that clouds things potentially.

Wayne County going 4A could and would probably take Casey from D4 and move them back to the company they are with right now as is in D6. That would still make D4 and D6 four team districts.

Greenup going 3A would make things interesting. Where do you put somebody from D7 and D8 unless one of them offered to move up to 4A; which could be a possibility.
If Greenup goes to 3A Pendleton will have to move from D7.
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Depending on their numbers but itís looking like they are staying.
It amazes me that people will not actually look at the numbers just posted and just take headlines. There numbers are 4A.

https://portal.ksba.org/public/Meeting/Attachments/DisplayAttachment.aspx?AttachmentID=401193
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Anybody want to pick 5 teams to represent the new 2A in the finals and/or the state champs in that class for the 19-22 years and give everybody else the field?

I will:

Mayfield
O'Cath
Danville
LCA
Beechwood
Mighty shaky limb your out on there......pretty much a safe bet to go with anyone of these in several classes to win a title.
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Mighty shaky limb your out on there......pretty much a safe bet to go with anyone of these in several classes to win a title.
1-4 I agree.

That wasn't meant for being out on a shaky limb.....dang right all 5 of those would be a safe bet to compete for/win titles in other classes.
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Great insight, thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts. Confusing to say the least.
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Class 2A
District 1 – Ballard Memorial, Mayfield, Murray, Caldwell County
District 2 – Butler County, Hancock County, McLean County, Owensboro Catholic, Todd County Central, Edmonson Co.
District 3 – Clinton County, Green County, Metcalfe County, Monroe County, Somerset
District 4 – Danville, LCA, Bath Co., Washington County
District 5 – Carroll County, Gallatin County, Owen County, Walton-Verona, Shawnee
District 6 –Holy Cross (Covington), Lloyd Memorial, Beechwood, Bracken County,
District 7 – Middlesboro, Breathitt, Leslie, Knott
District 8 – West Carter, Sheldon Clark, Prestonsburg, Betsy Lane, Shelby Valley, East Ridge

This is My 2A for now, but I fully expect West Carter and Bath to play up again like last time, and Morgan and Magoffin move down to 2A..
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Am I missing something with Harlan County? I read the article released and it did not mention them moving. I assume the KHSAA has the numbers? I would think they would know a little something? Maybe, LOL. Maybe it has something to do with projections of new schools that keep them in 5A instead of just looking at this years numbers? Please explain why they would not be listed in article as to be potentially moving down if they had 4A numbers?
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Originally Posted by 33 power View Post
It amazes me that people will not actually look at the numbers just posted and just take headlines. There numbers are 4A.

https://portal.ksba.org/public/Meeti...hmentID=401193
Seeing as how we are actually talking about the article posted with this thread i did read the article. I’m not the one throwing speculation of a school not even mentioned. I agree you should read the article at hand.
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