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There was a time that the government played a negligible role in land management and conservation. Back in 1867, a United States Calvary colonel exclaimed, “Kill every buffalo you can! Every buffalo is an Indian gone.”

Fast forward: can we trust the philosophical descendents of said Colonel (developers, ranchers, oil men, etc.) to honor the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt? See the story of the buffalo. No, we can’t. The real estate mogul thinks a high rise hotel and casino is more sacred than the land itself. Viewing buffalo and land as simply a means to an end? We’ve seen it before. It’s tragic.
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There was a time that the government played a negligible role in land management and conservation. Back in 1867, a United States Calvary colonel exclaimed, “Kill every buffalo you can! Every buffalo is an Indian gone.”

Fast forward: can we trust the philosophical descendents of said Colonel (developers, ranchers, oil men, etc.) to honor the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt? See the story of the buffalo. No, we can’t. The real estate mogul thinks a high rise hotel and casino is more sacred than the land itself. Viewing buffalo and land as simply a means to an end? We’ve seen it before. It’s tragic.
So you're saying that we should go back to the time when government played a negligible role in land management?

Certainly appears that way from your first sentence. I must admit, however, that I've read the vast majority of your threads/posts... and I never walk away from it knowing what you actually said or meant. Maybe you're just smarter than I am, or simply -- I just read slow because I talk slow.

I'm going to assume you're for government land management, just because you come across as a communist in many of your posts. Tell me, if the land you lived on for 50 years were discovered to be an sacred burial ground of Indians.. would you turn it over to the government immediately and lose your family's home? Or wait for the government to take it through eminent domain?

The federal government's role in land management shouldn't be 'negligible'. Negligible is infinitely too much. Any land the government doesn't use on a regular basis, or isn't essential to national security (such as a military base) -- should be owned by a)homeowners, b)business owners, or c)the local government.

It is of no benefit to turn a pile of rocks in Utah into a national monument, which restricts GDP contributions. You being a liberal psychonaut, should probably crave GDP growth to help fund your welfare check, earned income tax credit, and socialized medicine.



The federal government owns 20% or more of 13 states in the nation. And over 27% of the entire country is deeded to Uncle Sam. Private citizens, corporations, and local governments account for only 15.1% of Nevada's land ownership. California, one of the largest states in the Union, AND the most populous... is almost 50% federal land.
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So you're saying that we should go back to the time when government played a negligible role in land management?

Certainly appears that way from your first sentence. I must admit, however, that I've read the vast majority of your threads/posts... and I never walk away from it knowing what you actually said or meant. Maybe you're just smarter than I am, or simply -- I just read slow because I talk slow.

I'm going to assume you're for government land management, just because you come across as a communist in many of your posts. Tell me, if the land you lived on for 50 years were discovered to be an sacred burial ground of Indians.. would you turn it over to the government immediately and lose your family's home? Or wait for the government to take it through eminent domain?

The federal government's role in land management shouldn't be 'negligible'. Negligible is infinitely too much. Any land the government doesn't use on a regular basis, or isn't essential to national security (such as a military base) -- should be owned by a)homeowners, b)business owners, or c)the local government.

It is of no benefit to turn a pile of rocks in Utah into a national monument, which restricts GDP contributions. You being a liberal psychonaut, should probably crave GDP growth to help fund your welfare check, earned income tax credit, and socialized medicine.



The federal government owns 20% or more of 13 states in the nation. And over 27% of the entire country is deeded to Uncle Sam. Private citizens, corporations, and local governments account for only 15.1% of Nevada's land ownership. California, one of the largest states in the Union, AND the most populous... is almost 50% federal land.


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The buffalo was hunted to nigh extinction. The buffalo now roam again. It is interesting how much you ol’ Christian boys trust human nature.

Theodore Roosevelt understood something about our relationship to the land that seems absent, Uncle Ronald, in your viewpoint.

In Putin’s Russia, homosexuals are discriminated against. In China’s cities air quality is poor. Uncle Ron? Dragging “communism” into the public lands issue? Balancing unregulated greed and self-interest as over and against the malignancy of a bloated Big Brother? That’s the American political experience and history. To suggest that government has no role in land management is as dense as it is ridiculous.
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The buffalo was hunted to nigh extinction. The buffalo now roam again. It is interesting how much you ol’ Christian boys trust human nature.

Theodore Roosevelt understood something about our relationship to the land that seems absent, Uncle Ronald, in your viewpoint.

In Putin’s Russia, homosexuals are discriminated against. In China’s cities air quality is poor. Uncle Ron? Dragging “communism” into the public lands issue? Balancing unregulated greed and self-interest as over and against the malignancy of a bloated Big Brother? That’s the American political experience and history. To suggest that government has no role in land management is as dense as it is ridiculous.


Yeah and those buffalo drop a lot of the same stuff that ol Sombrero does.
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Yeah and those buffalo drop a lot of the same stuff that ol Sombrero does.
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Yeah and those buffalo drop a lot of the same stuff that ol Sombrero does.
“Oh give me a home
where the buffalo roam”

Not possible if individual human greed, short sightedness, and self-interest run unchecked.
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